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meeting |
Meeting started Fri Aug 5 12:01:17 2016 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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| 12:01 |
samtoday |
that's ok. There is some information in the ZeroMQ faq about how to deal with event loops |
| 12:01 |
walterbender |
AbrahmAB, do you want to continue with your update? |
| 12:01 |
AbrahmAB |
sure! |
| 12:01 |
hemant_kasat |
hi everyone ! |
| 12:02 |
AbrahmAB |
this week I tested standalone broadcasing feature of zeromq alongwith avahi |
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| 12:02 |
AbrahmAB |
Now I will implement a new module for activity collab in the toolkit |
| 12:03 |
walterbender |
AbrahmAB, nice |
| 12:03 |
AbrahmAB |
this module will be the base module that can be implemented in activity's collabwrapper |
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looking forward to refactor physics activity collab at first |
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| 12:04 |
walterbender |
+1 |
| 12:04 |
AbrahmAB |
:) |
| 12:06 |
walterbender |
AbrahmAB, please report on the devel list the progress of your tests this week |
| 12:06 |
AbrahmAB |
ok! |
| 12:06 |
walterbender |
lp1, do you have an update? |
| 12:06 |
lp1 |
Sure ! :) |
| 12:06 |
samtoday |
AbrahmAB: you talked about not needing a port... does that mean that it runs on a default port every time? |
| 12:07 |
AbrahmAB |
it will need ports |
| 12:07 |
lp1 |
Last week I started to merge my changes on Lionel's sugarizer repository with the one I've made during the last months |
| 12:07 |
AbrahmAB |
we can assign different ports for different activities |
| 12:07 |
lp1 |
I made some improvements on the UI for the network panel, and added a new feature to ask the user if he want to set SugariserOS as default launcher during the first boot. But we've had a meeting this morning with my two mentors and decided to move this to the second boot ! |
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So next week I'm going to keep on merging my changes with Lionel's sugarizer sources and finish the UI fixes and improvements according to their reviews :) |
| 12:08 |
walterbender |
lp1, makes sense so as to let people experience it first |
| 12:08 |
lp1 |
Yes exactly |
| 12:09 |
samtoday |
AbrahmAB: Good! |
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AbrahmAB: hopefully, we can avoid some of the mistakes that were made in the original design - like asuming that only 1 of each activity type would be active at one time |
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I'm sure that you will! |
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Btw, did the bug that I sent make sense AbrahmAB? |
| 12:11 |
AbrahmAB |
samtoday: re- design are you suggesting that invite_menu can have more "Invite to.." |
| 12:12 |
samtoday |
AbrahmAB: hum, I think that we are talking about different bugs. What are you replying to? |
| 12:12 |
AbrahmAB |
samtoday: bug that u pointed out in mail? |
| 12:12 |
walterbender |
lp1, what is the plan for this week? |
| 12:13 |
AbrahmAB |
we could just first chk if buddy is list before removing |
| 12:13 |
samtoday |
yes and no |
| 12:13 |
AbrahmAB |
*buddy is in the list |
| 12:13 |
samtoday |
the issue is that the code asume that avahi already de-duplicates the buddies |
| 12:13 |
AbrahmAB |
samtoday: hmm |
| 12:14 |
samtoday |
so Alice is using Sugar |
| 12:14 |
lp1 |
This week I'm going to finish to merge the SugarizerOS wireless scan in the neighbourhood feature on Lionel's repository and we're going to work on the UI to make some of the features easier to use. We're going to work on the deployment and the build of the projet with Michael too |
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samtoday |
she broadcasts over Avahi, which then broadcasts over all network interfaces. Alice is now broadcast over the WiFi and Ethernet and VirtualBox connection |
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| 12:14 |
walterbender |
mohayon, where is the deployment going to be? |
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lp1, ^^ |
| 12:15 |
samtoday |
Ahmed is in the neighbourhood view. He is connected to the same WiFi and Ethernet network as Alice. Therefore, avahi recieves Alice's broadcast twice |
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AbrahmAB |
samtoday: okay! |
| 12:15 |
samtoday |
Avahi procedes to tell the Sugar code about 2 Ahmeds - a Ahmed (via WiFi) and Ahmed (via Ethernet). |
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They have the same id and metadata |
| 12:16 |
lp1 |
The goal is to make an automatic and lighter (because so far the repository is very heavy) build for the whole projet. Michael uses a tool for that that he wants to try with me, it's working as a hook on a git repository |
| 12:16 |
samtoday |
but we need to merge the 2 Ahmeds |
| 12:16 |
AbrahmAB |
we could simply check is the buddy in the list or not before adding them |
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samtoday: can u xplain on merging two ahemds? |
| 12:17 |
samtoday |
so on a basic level (I don't know what the code looks like now) |
| 12:17 |
mohayon |
walterbender: Saint-Ouen, near Paris |
| 12:18 |
walterbender |
mohayon, nice. A school? |
| 12:18 |
AbrahmAB |
samtoday: needs to be investigated |
| 12:18 |
samtoday |
keep a data dict that is id->dict(interface->metadata) |
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maybe? That feels like a naive implimentation |
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mohayon |
Walterbender : Yes, I think that they were using XO |
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Walterbender : they will have have some old samsung 10 inches tabs |
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AbrahmAB |
samtoday: y do we need to merge both Ahmeds? |
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walterbender |
really? please keep the community in the loop regarding your observations. |
| 12:20 |
samtoday |
AbrahmAB: I suppose we don't |
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but we need to keep both in case we loose 1 copy and not the other |
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eg. Alice now unplugs the Ethernet cable. Ahmed should still be visible - he is avaliable via WiFi |
| 12:21 |
AbrahmAB |
samtoday: yes! |
| 12:22 |
walterbender |
hemant_kasat, want to give us an update? |
| 12:22 |
AbrahmAB |
samtoday: I will try to look into it |
| 12:22 |
hemant_kasat |
yes !! , I wrote a blog post which was due since long time, here is the link https://docs.google.com/docume[…]/edit?usp=sharing |
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for now it is draft only, I will publish it soon |
| 12:23 |
samtoday |
AbrahmAB: thanks! |
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| 12:24 |
AbrahmAB |
samtoday: so should I first work on the new collab module or fix the bug |
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pikurasa |
hemant_kasat: Checking it out now. |
| 12:24 |
hemant_kasat |
pikurasa : let me know what changes needs to be done |
| 12:24 |
walterbender |
hemant_kasat, you merged my PR? |
| 12:25 |
samtoday |
AbrahmAB: Why don't you fix the bug first. It should be quick. |
| 12:25 |
hemant_kasat |
walterbender yes i merged it |
| 12:26 |
walterbender |
hemant_kasat, there is some more cleaning up to be done but then I think it is ready for merging to master |
| 12:26 |
hemant_kasat |
walterbender, like ?? |
| 12:26 |
walterbender |
hemant_kasat, you can use addbutton for all the buttons |
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AbrahmAB_ |
samtoday: +1 |
| 12:27 |
walterbender |
and you can use _ for the internal instance variables |
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and get rid of unused code/variables |
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and we need to come up with a new icon for play |
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I have some ideas |
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hemant_kasat |
walterbender, yes I will do that |
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yeah we need a new icon |
| 12:28 |
walterbender |
hemant_kasat, would be good to wrap this one up and then focus on finishing the tempo widget |
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pikurasa |
walterbender: What are your ideas for the new icon? |
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hemant_kasat |
walterbender , yeah let me know which icon can be used, i will clean the code and will make a PR |
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AbrahmAB_ |
samtoday: I will fix the bug by this weekend and then we are good to go with activity collab. |
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samtoday |
Great! |
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AbrahmAB_ |
samtoday: anything else that I am missing?? |
| 12:30 |
samtoday |
no, it is all good! |
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talk to you later I suppose! |
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AbrahmAB_ |
samtoday: bbye |
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walterbender |
pikurasa, I was thinking of embedding the > in a mountain or valley shape depending on bottom to top to bottom or top to bottom to top |
| 12:31 |
pikurasa |
hemant_kasat: In your blog, "The proportion is represented by the two input boxes as shown in the above figure." you should be more specific what kind of "proportion" |
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davelab6 |
hey |
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sorry im late |
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elih |
hey dave |
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pikurasa |
walterbender: Yes, that makes sense. |
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hemant_kasat |
pikurasa : thanks for noticing it out, I will update that |
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walterbender |
hemant_kasat, in general, the pitch staircase is looking good. |
| 12:33 |
hemant_kasat |
walterbender , for the tempo what other things needs to be done ? |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: Hi |
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pikurasa |
Yes, the pitch staircase is pretty close so far. |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
Sorry for being late. |
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pikurasa |
hemant_kasat: Has the timing been corrected on Tempo widget? |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari hi |
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walterbender |
hemant_kasat, I see you go rid of the check button on the pitch starcase. you are checking for change in the input now? |
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pikurasa |
Last I checked it was not accurate... |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: Did you test the .xo bundle? |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari not had the chance yet |
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iamutkarshtiwari I was able to set up a school server for the test |
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hemant_kasat |
pikurasa , I changed some of the things, please let me know if it is still not correct |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: Did you go through my 'index.html' for 'en-ck12' and 'get-books.cfg' files? |
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hemant_kasat |
walterbender , yes now the BPM is initialized with the master beats per minute value |
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walterbender |
hemant_kasat, +1 |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari no chance yet |
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walterbender |
hemant_kasat, does it update the value in that block when you hit save? |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: I have downloaded the 'wikipedia' files for the schools. It's 2.5Gb in size. |
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hemant_kasat |
yes thats needs to be done, i was trying that but then i switched to pitchstair case, will do it soon |
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pikurasa |
hemant_kasat: The timing is off. |
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60 BPM should be one second to go from left side to right side or visa versa. |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari seems about right - it was limited to fit a dvd |
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pikurasa |
Also, what is this value attached to the tempo block? (a default of "2") |
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What is it for? |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: I am on Mac OSX so I downloaded the .dmg version of kiwix server. |
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hemant_kasat |
when i started Tempo I attached this argument, not sure why ? , i think there is no need for that |
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i will remove it |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari fine - when ready we can test against the school server |
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pikurasa |
hemant_kasat: Yes, please remove! |
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pikurasa |
hemant_kasat: When you work, do you make a "TO DO" list? |
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I think it would be helpful. |
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pikurasa |
Some of my best work is when I have a list in front of me. |
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hemant_kasat |
pikurasa: according to the implementation 60 BPM should correspond to 1 second but it is not the case , i will figure it out |
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pikurasa , most of the time a make a "TO DO" list |
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walterbender |
yagarwal, any update for this week? |
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pikurasa |
hemant_kasat: Yes, please check fix this. |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: Sorry I got disconnected. Did I miss anything ? |
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hemant_kasat |
pikurasa , sure !! |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari no |
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yagarwal |
Yeah, here is the latest pr I've been working on https://github.com/sugarlabs/e[…]-activity/pull/88 |
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the welcome screen is done and now I'll be finishing up the functionality issues we have reported on the repo |
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davelab6 |
walterbender: i think yash has made great progress lately :) |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: What would you suggest? I am thinking on adding that option('SchoolServer Wikipedia') in the dropdown box which contains other options like 'English wikipedia, German wikipedia, ' etc. |
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davelab6 |
walterbender: last weekend eli and i met up here in nyc and tested the .xo file he built |
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walterbender |
yagarwal, you sorted out the issue with pango? |
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davelab6 |
https://ci6.googleusercontent.[…]e1-ft#https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/gh-pages/files/img/welcome-page.png |
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yagarwal |
not exactly, I have replaced it with the new way to import it, but in doing so I can not use the ellisize command |
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davelab6 |
elih made a mock - https://sugarlabs.github.io/ed[…]e-ux-concept.html - and yash implemented it :) |
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yagarwal |
I can't figure out how to ellipsize a label using the modern Pango lib |
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yagarwal |
waltebender: but the xo works |
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so you can test it out |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari we will need a config option to list the avialable wikipeidias on the school server |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: Similar to what happens in 'GetBooks' ? |
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via 'get-books.cfg' |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari yes |
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walterbender |
yagarwal, I'll download your latest bits and take a look |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: I havent' tried serving zim files to 'InfoSlicer' yet. Do the content look exactly the same as when fetched online? |
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yagarwal |
here is the link to the xo bundle https://github.com/sugarlabs/e[…]st/EditFonts-1.xo |
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tony37 |
iamutkarshtiwari - don't know |
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iamutkarshtiwari if you use the kiwix server, you should get the html page for the article |
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walterbender Perhaps iamutkarshtiwari should give a report |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: Infoslicer helps user view 'textual'(text) and 'visual'(images) content separately from an article for a searched topic. We can drag and drop images and text separately in to our own content. |
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walterbender |
iamutkarshtiwari, please tell us about your week |
| 12:54 |
iamutkarshtiwari |
I have tried adding offline support to the 'GetBooks' activity. |
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For the test purpose, I used localhost to serve the book collections and |
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for the book collection I downloaded the 'Rachel' and 'Gutenberg' offline sources. |
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Here is what it looks like - |
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http://imgur.com/a/833K9 |
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http://imgur.com/a/b7vtc |
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walterbender |
iamutkarshtiwari, looks like it is working |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
Yes. |
| 12:57 |
walterbender |
iamutkarshtiwari, any issues? |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
No issues as of now. I haven't used OPDS to get books from school servers. |
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Instead I used another technique to parse the index.html files of the books collections and display them in GetBooks activity. |
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Since the content is offline, I didn't find any need for OPDS |
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walterbender |
iamutkarshtiwari, so you have a parallel system? or one system using a local port when available? |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
The only work left is to create a script to automate the configuration of 'get-books.cfg' depending on the book collection. |
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tony37 |
walterbender localhost is used because iamutkarshtiwari does not have a school server. The intent is to access the school server to get the books |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
I have a parallel system. |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
walterbender: The access urls look like https://localhost:8000/schools[…]rachel/index.html |
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and http://localhost:8000/schoolse[…]enberg/index.html |
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html* |
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sorry http* |
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But this can be test with another system over wifi and an XO. |
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walterbender |
tony37, I guess I am confused. It would seem that we want to use the same protocol whether accessing from a remote server, a school server, or local |
| 13:05 |
tony37 |
One benefit is that GetBooks may gain the capability to access additional collections on the internet such as pustakalaya by adapting to the source's methods |
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walterbender |
tony37, but I don't see how that impacts where the data is coming from |
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maybe I am missing something |
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tony37 |
walterbender The data could come from http://www.rachel.org/al;sdkjfl;as or http://schoolserver/rachel/;aldkjfl |
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walterbender |
or localhost |
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tony37 |
yes, but we would need a different port. The schoolserver already has khan academy and kiwix using localhosts |
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walterbender |
tony37, I follow, but what does that have to do with the protocol for the data retrieved? |
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tony37 |
Rachel, gutenberg, and pustakalaya do not use opds protocol |
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walterbender |
tony37, OK. |
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tony37, I was confused |
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I thought iamutkarshtiwari was using a different protocol for his own convenience |
| 13:10 |
tony37 |
It is tricky. I think InfoSlicer will pose similar problems since the schoolserver delivers this content with kiwix from zim files |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
tony37: Yes. At OLE Nepal, They used simple urls like http://localhost/schoolserver/pustakalay.. |
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tony37 |
and server side php code |
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walterbender the goal is to have both activities bring content to the Journal in similar ways and with the same results from the user's perspective |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
walterbender: The technique involved here is collection specific that is for 'Rachel' and |
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'Gutenberg' |
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tony37 |
Yes |
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walterbender |
tony37, iamutkarshtiwari got it. thanks fo rexplaining |
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anything else to report? iamutkarshtiwari what are your plans for this coming week? |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
I am working on adding similar support to 'InfoSlicer' to download wiki content from school servers |
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For that I would be using kiwix server and wikipedia offline zim files for schools. |
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The tricky part would be testing whether |
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the activity is able to display the textual and visual content from the zim files onto the display area. |
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If not, we need to find a way to do it exactly with the offline content same to what happens when fetching content from online sources for eg. en.wikipedia.org |
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My overall progress can be tracked on my blog - http://iamutkarshtiwari.wordpress.com |
| 13:23 |
walterbender |
looks |
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iamutkarshtiwari, did you generate the graphic on the homepage of your blog? |
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what tool did you use? |
| 13:24 |
iamutkarshtiwari |
Those images were already available on wordpress. |
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walterbender |
Oh :P |
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anything else for today? |
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iamutkarshtiwari |
That's all. |
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walterbender |
thanks everyone for your updates |
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