| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 20:18 | meeting | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 20:18:04 2011 UTC. The chair is nemo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:18 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 20:18 | nemo | #topic agenda |
| 20:19 | * meeting bot lingvo plugin problems | |
| 20:20 | ClaudiaU_: which is your channel again | |
| 20:20 | ClaudiaU_ | #olpc-aprendizaje |
| 20:21 | nemo | * #olpc-aprendizaje #sugar #sugar-meeting and other important channels |
| 20:21 | ClaudiaU_ | not that I know of |
| 20:21 | dogi | * status of treehouse |
| 20:21 | * new servers? | |
| 20:22 | ping _bernie | |
| 20:23 | nemo | #topic meeting bot lingvo plugin problems |
| 20:24 | ClaudiaU_: did you notice that some times no translation happens | |
| 20:25 | ClaudiaU_ | I did after we installed last week.. I have come once in a while this week, and it does work |
| 20:25 | so I am not sure.. we have not test it extensively with many people | |
| 20:26 | nemo | ohhh |
| 20:26 | gonzalo_ has quit IRC | |
| 20:27 | nemo | #link http://meeting.treehouse.su/ol[…]aje-en/2011-10-26 |
| 20:28 | #info alsroot reported that sometimes we get 403 errors ... | |
| 20:28 | ClaudiaU_ | ok |
| 20:28 | nemo | #info we reached some limits of g+translate service |
| 20:29 | ClaudiaU_ | I just tested three lines and it works |
| 20:30 | nemo | #info one solution is to forward the users ip to our translation service |
| 20:30 | -> privacy proplems? | |
| 20:31 | dogi | problems |
| 20:31 | ClaudiaU_ | the users come at one moment and they chat. I want to have access to the log of those conversations... |
| 20:32 | it is not open to the public, but the content is not private.. I just can't handle more than a given number of guest | |
| 20:34 | dogi | alsroot, is the right person to ask ... ok good to know that we could forward the users ips |
| 20:34 | ClaudiaU_, do I get you there? | |
| 20:36 | ClaudiaU_, right now only meetings get published | |
| 20:37 | alsroot, do we log everything in the database? | |
| 20:38 | ClaudiaU_ | dogi: I am not understand whats is going to happen |
| 20:38 | dogi: where did you go? | |
| 20:40 | dogi | ClaudiaU_, I am in Central square ... |
| 20:40 | ClaudiaU_ | oh.. |
| 20:40 | when did you leave... | |
| 20:40 | :( | |
| 20:41 | dogi | but I send you my phonenumber ... |
| 20:41 | sry | |
| 20:41 | ClaudiaU_ | regarding the IP |
| 20:41 | and the translation.. | |
| 20:42 | frustrating... | |
| 20:42 | what is the proposal? | |
| 20:42 | dogi | +1 |
| 20:42 | frust... | |
| 20:42 | 1) sending IPs | |
| 20:43 | ClaudiaU_ | of the guest? |
| 20:43 | dogi | and making google happy |
| 20:43 | yes of the person asking for translation | |
| 20:44 | _bernie | dogi: pong |
| 20:44 | ClaudiaU_ | every time they are going to join the channel? |
| 20:44 | _bernie | ClaudiaU_: ciao claudia |
| 20:44 | dogi | which no only means privacy problems but also programming effort |
| 20:44 | ciao _bernie | |
| 20:44 | ClaudiaU_ | hola Bernie |
| 20:44 | _bernie | ClaudiaU_: i watched your interview, very interesting |
| 20:44 | ClaudiaU_ | thanks Bernie :) |
| 20:45 | I don't want/need any more work | |
| 20:45 | _bernie | haha |
| 20:45 | ClaudiaU_ | if having the smooth translation is not possible, we have to find other ways to collaborate |
| 20:45 | among different languages | |
| 20:46 | I just do too much tech support and thoubleshooting to get the chat going and any webinar | |
| 20:46 | :S | |
| 20:46 | _bernie | ClaudiaU_: i did not read the scrollback, but if it's about google translate shutting down the public API, there's already work undergoing to find a replacement |
| 20:46 | ClaudiaU_: alsroot is leading the effort | |
| 20:46 | dogi | _bernie, http://meeting.treehouse.su/treehouse/2011-11-01 |
| 20:47 | ClaudiaU_ | _bernie: I understand |
| 20:47 | _bernie | ClaudiaU_: at this time, the language pair we need the most is english <-> spanish. he has found an alternate service which odes it. |
| 20:47 | does | |
| 20:47 | ClaudiaU_ | ok |
| 20:47 | dogi | +1 |
| 20:47 | _bernie | dogi: thanks |
| 20:48 | dogi | and channels ... #sugar #sugar-meeting #olpc-apr... |
| 20:48 | ClaudiaU_, | |
| 20:48 | ClaudiaU_ | dogi |
| 20:48 | dogi | #olpc-aprendizaje |
| 20:49 | _bernie | dogi: unfortunately, sending the end-user ip to google is not sufficient. alsroot told me that the public api will be closed next month. |
| 20:49 | dogi: (i don't have any additional information) | |
| 20:49 | dogi | ok |
| 20:49 | ClaudiaU_ | should we wait? |
| 20:50 | _bernie | ClaudiaU_: alsroot knows all the details |
| 20:51 | dogi | ClaudiaU_, something else http://chat.treehouse.su/?chan[…]=olpc-aprendizaje |
| 20:52 | _bernie, should we speak about servers | |
| 20:53 | ClaudiaU_ | it doesn't translate |
| 20:54 | dogi | ClaudiaU_, ? |
| 20:54 | _bernie | dogi: can we talk in person tonight? i'm at work now |
| 20:55 | ClaudiaU_ | http://chat.treehouse.su/?chan[…]=olpc-aprendizaje |
| 20:57 | dogi: | |
| 20:57 | this thing drives me crazy | |
| 20:59 | dogi | _bernie, ok |
| 20:59 | ClaudiaU_, http://chat.treehouse.su/?chan[…]pc-aprendizaje-en | |
| 21:00 | ClaudiaU_ | ok |
| 21:00 | dogi | 2) solution 2 is to create an own translation bot for OLPC |
| 21:01 | ClaudiaU_ | I type in Spanish and the text comes in Spanish in the other -en room |
| 21:01 | and the translation we installed in the #olpc-aprendizaje is not working anymore | |
| 21:02 | dogi | :( I know |
| 21:02 | but the nearst solution is maybe to focus only to translate the important channels | |
| 21:04 | ClaudiaU_ | ok |
| 21:04 | I think this is an important channel... | |
| 21:06 | dogi | think #olpc-aprendizaje is more important then #treehouse ... |
| 21:06 | ClaudiaU_ | olpc-aprendizaje is a meeting with learning people from everywhere |
| 21:07 | dogi | #treehouse should have more a devel translation bot .... |
| 21:07 | ClaudiaU_ | I can't repeat the same meeting twice for different languages |
| 21:07 | dogi | ClaudiaU_, but you agree that #sugar and #sugar-meeting are more important |
| 21:08 | ClaudiaU_ | as important |
| 21:08 | dogi | lol |
| 21:08 | I see | |
| 21:08 | ClaudiaU_ | without learning people, sugar people develop for who? |
| 21:08 | nemo | dogi +1 |
| 21:09 | ClaudiaU_ | thanks for your work |
| 21:10 | I have to go | |
| 21:10 | dogi | we can at least reduce the number of languages and/or channels which we translate |
| 21:10 | #dextrose is being translated into pt, es | |
| 21:10 | #fedora-olpc is being translated into es | |
| 21:11 | #meeting-test is being translated into es, ru | |
| 21:11 | #olpc-aprendizaje is being translated into en | |
| 21:11 | #olpc-help is being translated into es | |
| 21:11 | #olpc-paraguay is being translated into en | |
| 21:12 | #sugar is being translated into ar, es, it, nl, fr, ru, ga, cs | |
| 21:12 | #sugar-meeting is being translated into de, es | |
| 21:12 | #sugar-newbies is being translated into ru, es | |
| 21:12 | #treehouse is being translated into it, de | |
| 21:12 | #ubuntu-sugarteam is being translated into de, es, id, ru | |
| 21:13 | .... too much? | |
| 21:13 | ClaudiaU_, ciao | |
| 21:14 | ClaudiaU_ | not my job to give the priority, but that is too much instances installed already |
| 21:16 | dogi | ClaudiaU_, ty |
| 21:18 | _bernie | dogi: wow, how many channels and languages |
| 21:19 | nemo | <meeting> Has left #treehouse-de channel(s) |
| 21:24 | #topic treehouse status | |
| 21:26 | dogi | http://munin.treehouse.su/gar/[…]irtual%20machines |
| 21:27 | specially on http://munin.treehouse.su/gar/[…]_epoch=1320182749 | |
| 21:27 | #info housetree | |
| 21:28 | #link http://munin.treehouse.su/gar/[…]_epoch=1320182749 | |
| 21:29 | #info muninVM | |
| 21:29 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/munin | |
| 21:29 | #info qwebircVM | |
| 21:30 | #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/qwebirc | |
| 21:30 | and not to forget ole2VM | |
| 21:33 | http://munin.treehouse.su/gar/[…]_epoch=1320183051 | |
| 21:33 | which has 4GB of ram | |
| 21:34 | ... and eats CPUtime as fast as jita ... | |
| 21:38 | and this brings me to the next point | |
| 21:38 | ... topic | |
| 21:39 | nemo | #topic new servers? |
| 21:39 | dogi | http://munin.treehouse.su/gar/[…]_x=800&size_y=400 |
| 21:41 | since by actual speed we will soon fill the space on housetree | |
| 21:43 | http://munin.treehouse.su/gar/[…]_x=800&size_y=400 | |
| 21:43 | the situation on treehouse looks similar ... | |
| 21:49 | now I miss my translation features | |
| 21:50 | "beengend" is the german word ... | |
| 21:51 | #endmeeting | |
| 21:51 | nemo | #endmeeting |
| 21:51 | meeting | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 21:51:32 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:51 | Minutes: http://meeting.treehouse.su/tr[…]-01T20:18:04.html | |
| 21:51 | Log: http://meeting.treehouse.su/tr[…]11-11-01T20:18:04 |