| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 16:01 | dogi | #info Weekly Infrastructure meeting: |
| 16:01 | #info Volunteer Infrastructure Gang (http://olpcorps.org/ ), | |
| 16:01 | #info Sugarlabs Infrastructure Team (http://sugarlabs.org/ ), | |
| 16:01 | #info and TreeHousers (http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ ) | |
| 16:01 | #info Date: 2010-04-27 | |
| 16:01 | #info Time: 20:00 UTC (16:00 EST, 21:00 CET) | |
| 16:01 | #info Location: #treehouse on irc.oftc.net | |
| 16:02 | #link http://embed.mibbit.com/?serve[…]nnel=%23treehouse | |
| 16:02 | #topic agenda | |
| 16:02 | #info * move alsocluster to RIT | |
| 16:03 | #info * update about somoszucar.org | |
| 16:03 | #info * update about rt.sugarlabs.org | |
| 16:04 | silbe, hhardy _bernie other topics | |
| 16:04 | we should speak about? | |
| 16:04 | hhardy | monitoring |
| 16:05 | dogi | #info * update about monitoring.sugarlabs.org |
| 16:06 | silbe | half-there (other half in #olpc-devel) |
| 16:06 | dogi | hi silbe |
| 16:07 | #topic move of aslocluster to RIT | |
| 16:08 | the servers which are right now hosted by pika.mit.edu | |
| 16:08 | will be unracked tomorrow ... | |
| 16:08 | hhardy, can you help me there? | |
| 16:08 | hhardy | do you want a hand with that |
| 16:08 | yes | |
| 16:08 | dogi | thx :) |
| 16:08 | hhardy | what time? |
| 16:09 | dogi | 14:00? later? earlier? |
| 16:10 | hhardy, tell me ... | |
| 16:11 | hhardy | 15:00 at pika? |
| 16:11 | dogi | ok |
| 16:11 | the further plan is to go by car with CanoeBerry | |
| 16:12 | to Rochester | |
| 16:12 | right now the schedule is to start at 6pm | |
| 16:13 | silbe | IIRC the cluster isn't in use yet; everything running from sunjammer / housetree? |
| 16:13 | dogi | but I hope we can start earlier so that we can be there at the user group meeting in RIT with walter |
| 16:13 | hhardy | tomorrow? |
| 16:14 | dogi | silbe, yes good point right now treehouse and sunjammer are taking the aslo load |
| 16:14 | hhardy, ups yes forgot this thursday ... | |
| 16:14 | thursday 6pm | |
| 16:15 | hhardy | is that an overnight type thing? |
| 16:15 | dogi | silbe, so there will be no downtime with http://activities.sugarlabs.org |
| 16:16 | silbe | dogi: good, that's what I was worried about :) |
| 16:16 | dogi | :P |
| 16:16 | CanoeBerry | Thurs Noon Sharp we're leaving pika to Rochester. See you there! |
| 16:16 | icarito | hello all |
| 16:17 | dogi | thank you adam for offering your time and your car for this |
| 16:17 | silbe | yay to CanoeBerry! :) |
| 16:17 | dogi | hi icarito |
| 16:17 | hhardy | Rochester trip is returning when? |
| 16:18 | CanoeBerry | Not returning. |
| 16:18 | dogi | :) |
| 16:18 | hhardy | ? |
| 16:18 | CanoeBerry | Onto Canada etc. |
| 16:18 | hhardy | dogi is not returning? |
| 16:19 | CanoeBerry | Dogi will live the rest of his life on the Canadian-US boundary. |
| 16:19 | dogi | hhardy, will figure that out on the fly ... since I have no server to carry I will be much more mobile :P |
| 16:19 | CanoeBerry, +1 | |
| 16:20 | CanoeBerry | Greyhound&Amtrak cheaper if you plan of course. |
| 16:20 | dogi | 60-90$ |
| 16:20 | CanoeBerry | But Chinatown/Megabus/etc bus to NYC is another option possibly, etc -- your business :) |
| 16:21 | dogi | bingo ... |
| 16:21 | icarito, are you willing to be next? update of somoszucar.org | |
| 16:21 | icarito | sure dogi |
| 16:22 | now? | |
| 16:22 | dogi | #topic update about somoszucar.org |
| 16:22 | icarito | i guess yes |
| 16:23 | :-) | |
| 16:23 | dogi | hmm think I have written the domain wrong |
| 16:23 | icarito | well we had an event last saturday - we recorded 4 presentations |
| 16:23 | dogi | yes icarito |
| 16:23 | icarito | yes the correct domain is "somosazucar.org" |
| 16:23 | hhardy | amtrak departures thursday from rochester to boston the last one is 15:30 |
| 16:23 | icarito | http://somosazucar.org/ |
| 16:23 | dogi | #topic update about somosazucar.org |
| 16:24 | icarito | ok so previously we only had pe.sugarlabs.org |
| 16:24 | dogi | #link http://somosazucar.org/ |
| 16:24 | icarito | i need to put a logo on that |
| 16:24 | basically i've returned from colombia where i stayed 3 months and started moving things here and we have some visitor volunteers | |
| 16:25 | so first thing was to improve communications | |
| 16:25 | so now our website is functional | |
| 16:25 | and we want to use microbloging | |
| 16:25 | to connect schools | |
| 16:25 | so thats where http://somosazucar.status.net/ comes int | |
| 16:26 | dogi | icarito, this page looks very nice ... not only functional |
| 16:26 | icarito | its a status.net instance |
| 16:26 | dogi, thank you | |
| 16:26 | dogi | #link http://somosazucar.status.net |
| 16:26 | icarito | there is the !somosazucar identi.ca group too |
| 16:27 | if you join the group tagging with !somosazucar will put the notice on the website | |
| 16:27 | so we have tuukka and kaisa in the field | |
| 16:27 | and antje, a german thesis writer | |
| 16:27 | we want to visit schools | |
| 16:27 | i wrote Intel and we have a meeting tomorrow | |
| 16:27 | maybe they will give us some classmates, | |
| 16:28 | if we get the funding, we want to visit schools across the amazon | |
| 16:28 | :-) | |
| 16:28 | also pending is formalizing our status as local lab with sugar labs | |
| 16:28 | CanoeBerry | hhardy: thurs+fri nights in Rochester are the smart plan |
| 16:28 | icarito | thats my update |
| 16:28 | will write after tomorrow to IAEP | |
| 16:29 | hhardy | I can't make it I have a job interview Fri morning |
| 16:29 | icarito | maybe i'd like to share this infrastructure with other local labs |
| 16:29 | i mean I would absolutely | |
| 16:29 | dogi | that sounds great ... can you tell us something about the technical setup of this page |
| 16:29 | CanoeBerry | hhardy: best o' luck!! |
| 16:29 | hhardy | thanks! |
| 16:29 | dogi | +1 |
| 16:30 | silbe | hhardy: good luck! |
| 16:30 | icarito | its basically wordpress with a blog.txt theme and a couple of plugins for feed integratino |
| 16:30 | wordpress-mu | |
| 16:30 | i wanted to use social networking but using free software | |
| 16:30 | and not building an island like our own social network (which buddypress and mumble could do) | |
| 16:30 | dogi | #link http://mu.wordpress.org/ |
| 16:31 | icarito | so ident.ca integration plus externally hosted by status.net was the winner |
| 16:31 | plus it worked great and quick | |
| 16:31 | pending for them is to update translations and hopefully remove the aweful google ad | |
| 16:31 | dogi | and did you connect identica with wordpress |
| 16:31 | ahh now I get it | |
| 16:32 | icarito | dogi, both ways, you get the stream on the side of the blog, and also new posts get 'dented to identi.ca |
| 16:32 | dogi | status.net is something like a blog for this wordpress-mu |
| 16:32 | icarito | status.net is to microbloging what wordpress is to blogging |
| 16:33 | dogi | thats very cool :) good job icarito |
| 16:33 | icarito | thanks dogi :-) we plan to connect schools to this so i hope to see much more activity from users soon |
| 16:33 | thank you for your time and feedback | |
| 16:33 | any suggestions are welcome! | |
| 16:35 | dogi | is happy |
| 16:35 | has somebody else questions? | |
| 16:36 | hhardy, next would be you ... ok? | |
| 16:36 | hhardy | hi |
| 16:36 | http://monitoring.sugarlabs.org/munin/index.html | |
| 16:36 | dogi | #topic update monitoringVM |
| 16:36 | hhardy | monitoring is working for housetree and treehouse |
| 16:37 | dogi | #link http://monitoring.sugarlabs.org/munin/index.html |
| 16:37 | hhardy | I think the next logical step is to set up nagios and integrate it onto munin |
| 16:37 | dogi | oh yes |
| 16:38 | hhardy | it is very easy to set up munin so I can easily add any more hosts to which I have root access |
| 16:38 | the only peculiar thing is that host addresses have to be written as regular expressions | |
| 16:38 | in the config file | |
| 16:39 | dogi | hhardy, jupp i remember |
| 16:39 | #action hhardy nagios on monitoring | |
| 16:39 | hhardy | thats about all for now I will start nagios next |
| 16:40 | dogi | #action dogi give hhardy access to all treehouseVMs |
| 16:41 | ping lfaraone? | |
| 16:41 | #topic problems moving VM from treehouse to housetree | |
| 16:42 | jelkner | lfaraone appears greyed out on my list of people present |
| 16:42 | dogi | thx jelkner |
| 16:42 | lfaraone | dogi: hello world. |
| 16:43 | dogi | I was solving my last meeting action by moving sharing for openetherpad |
| 16:43 | from treehouse to housetree | |
| 16:43 | hi lfaraone | |
| 16:44 | jelkner | dogi, is this a good time to discuss that server? |
| 16:44 | dogi | by that I found out that the new VM templates are not able to move so easily |
| 16:44 | silbe, do you have time to help me there | |
| 16:45 | jelkner, yes next topic ... ok? | |
| 16:45 | hi replaceafill | |
| 16:45 | silbe | dogi: help with what exactly? |
| 16:45 | replaceafill | hello dogi |
| 16:45 | jelkner | so there are two unrelated topics i have for today |
| 16:45 | dogi | silbe, will show you the exact problem in a screen ... |
| 16:46 | lfaraone | jelkner: are they on the agenda? |
| 16:46 | silbe | dogi: ok, I'll try to find time tomorrow. |
| 16:46 | dogi | silbe, thx |
| 16:46 | jelkner | lfaraone, probably not |
| 16:46 | i don't know how to get things on the agenda | |
| 16:46 | lfaraone | jelkner: you go to the link and type it in. |
| 16:46 | dogi | lfaraone, there was not link today |
| 16:46 | jelkner | lfaraone, can you be more specific, what link? |
| 16:47 | dogi | openetherpad is always on ... |
| 16:47 | jelkner | dogi, i'm not real bright, you have to make this easy or i can't do it! |
| 16:47 | dogi | #topic wikipediaserver @ ACC |
| 16:48 | jelkner | #topic Sugarized SchoolTool instance |
| 16:49 | dogi | ahh ok |
| 16:49 | jelkner | well both |
| 16:49 | _bernie | dogi: ugh |
| 16:49 | dogi: sorry for being late... again | |
| 16:49 | dogi | jelkner, which topic first? |
| 16:49 | hi _bernie | |
| 16:49 | jelkner | ok, wikipediaserver |
| 16:49 | i'll start | |
| 16:49 | dogi | yes go |
| 16:49 | jelkner | we have a server at ACC |
| 16:49 | i guess you set it up | |
| 16:50 | dogi | jupp |
| 16:50 | jelkner | APS will impose the following requirements: |
| 16:50 | lfaraone | has a few more, but they're not currently installed anywhere pending Ivan's server installation and confirmation from sponsors |
| 16:50 | jelkner | 1. it be admined by our sys admin |
| 16:50 | hgrover, is here now | |
| 16:50 | he and mattva01 are in charge of the machines in that closet | |
| 16:50 | and 2. | |
| 16:50 | that it be used by APS students | |
| 16:50 | so.. | |
| 16:51 | dogi | #info kuckuck has ip 158.59.200.140 |
| 16:51 | jelkner | i have a proposal |
| 16:51 | lfaraone | jelkner: can we (SL) have root access to the macine? |
| 16:51 | jelkner | we let lfaraone use it for USR work |
| 16:51 | lfaraone, yes | |
| 16:51 | dogi | hi hgrover |
| 16:51 | hgrover | hi dogi =) |
| 16:51 | jelkner | since you are an APS student |
| 16:51 | but mattva01 or hgrover will need root also | |
| 16:51 | lfaraone | jelkner: can non-APS projects be run on it? |
| 16:52 | jelkner | what is a non-aps project |
| 16:52 | dogi | jelkner, this is all fine with me ... |
| 16:52 | lfaraone, +1 | |
| 16:52 | jelkner | since sugar labs dc is here |
| 16:52 | CanoeBerry | jelkner aside: are you coming to the deployment summit may 28-31? |
| 16:52 | jelkner | CanoeBerry, where? |
| 16:52 | lfaraone | hgrover: did you GPG-sign the SAGE code of ethics? we usually have SL sysadmins do so. http://www.sage.org/ethics/ |
| 16:52 | CanoeBerry | US Virgin Islands, will almost all continents represented -- Waveplace.org is hosting |
| 16:52 | hgrover | Will do, remind me later lfaraone? |
| 16:53 | jelkner | ok, that sounds like we have agreement |
| 16:53 | CanoeBerry | *with almost all continents represented |
| 16:53 | jelkner | i like easy solutions |
| 16:53 | lfaraone | hgrover: yessir. |
| 16:53 | jelkner | so, next item? |
| 16:54 | dogi | #topic Sugarized SchoolTool instance |
| 16:54 | jelkner | ok, replaceafill has been busy |
| 16:54 | http://schooltool.sugarlabs.org:9999/calendar | |
| 16:54 | he did this on dogi's request | |
| 16:54 | at this point, we need more customer user stories | |
| 16:55 | how will the instance be used? | |
| 16:55 | what do you need it to do? | |
| 16:55 | replaceafill | it still needs css work though |
| 16:55 | jelkner | and how do you want it to look? ;-) |
| 16:55 | lfaraone | replaceafill: idle curiosity, can SchoolTool use openID for authentication? |
| 16:55 | (we have it on (almost) all our other sites) | |
| 16:56 | jelkner | lfaraone, cool idea |
| 16:56 | replaceafill | lfaraone, no that i know |
| 16:56 | jelkner | replaceafill, what would it take? |
| 16:56 | replaceafill | lfaraone, i've only seen cas |
| 16:56 | dogi | would like to use this schooltool instance for all our sugarlabs/treehouse meeting and teachings |
| 16:56 | replaceafill | jelkner, finding out how to do it :P |
| 16:57 | dogi, can you give an example of that? | |
| 16:57 | jelkner | replaceafill, it may be a good thing to look into |
| 16:57 | replaceafill | i mean, for meetings? |
| 16:58 | dogi | right now we are using google calender to post this stuff |
| 16:58 | http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ | |
| 16:58 | replaceafill | dogi, ah, you're interested in schooltool calendar |
| 16:58 | jelkner | so using ST would be a move to free software, nice. |
| 16:58 | dogi | if you look at the bottom |
| 16:58 | jelkner | that's great |
| 16:59 | we don't have any real calendar users | |
| 16:59 | dogi | replaceafill, that would be only the first step |
| 16:59 | jelkner | that would be helpful for the project as well |
| 16:59 | replaceafill | ah |
| 16:59 | CanoeBerry | jelkner: any interest in meeting OLPC/Sugar/Waveplace deployment folk from around the world for a couple days?! |
| 17:00 | jelkner | CanoeBerry, of course |
| 17:00 | but my time and resources are limited | |
| 17:00 | anything on a weekend not to far from DC i could do | |
| 17:00 | boston is possible | |
| 17:00 | replaceafill | dogi, interesting, it could be done :) |
| 17:00 | lfaraone | will be back in 5. |
| 17:01 | CanoeBerry | jelkner: May 28-31 if you want to be part of history |
| 17:01 | jelkner | where? |
| 17:01 | CanoeBerry | jump on a flight to STT |
| 17:01 | dogi | hopes that in the near futur sugar will hold irc teachings and other events which involves more scholars and not only events |
| 17:01 | CanoeBerry | Non-stop flights from NYC are awesome. |
| 17:01 | Or Atlanta. DC might require a stop. | |
| 17:02 | jelkner | CanoeBerry, where is STT? |
| 17:02 | dogi | replaceafill, question is this schooltool instance working fine for the 3 other schools? |
| 17:03 | CanoeBerry, please ... :) | |
| 17:03 | CanoeBerry | US Virgin Islands. Very quick 2hr flight from Miami. 3hr flight from Atlanta. 4hr flight from NYC. |
| 17:03 | replaceafill | dogi, you mean if we're using the same instance for all the schools? |
| 17:03 | we have three ST instances running | |
| 17:03 | hgrover | I've got to go now, bye everybody! |
| 17:04 | dogi | no not only if more if the resources are enough ... |
| 17:04 | CanoeBerry | STT is a major airport there, quick ferry to the maho.org site, right on the edge of the National Park there, and very cheap. |
| 17:04 | replaceafill | dogi, so far it's been good, although we haven't had concurrent users yet for instance |
| 17:05 | dogi | hgrover, can you send me your your loginname and a sshkey? |
| 17:05 | hgrover | left |
| 17:05 | jelkner is on his computer typing | |
| 17:05 | dogi | :) |
| 17:07 | replaceafill, ok ... | |
| 17:09 | jelkner, was my answer enough? | |
| 17:09 | lfaraone | dogi: I'll get his keys sneaker-net-like and gpgsign them to you. |
| 17:10 | dogi | replaceafill, is there something I should know ... which schooltool is able to do and would be nice to have? |
| 17:11 | lfaraone, thx ... wait first for my new key :) | |
| 17:12 | hmmm | |
| 17:13 | lfaraone, then lets move to the last but very important topic of RT | |
| 17:13 | replaceafill | dogi, sorry, i dont understand, you want to know what features SchoolTool has? |
| 17:13 | is sorry he's confused | |
| 17:13 | hhardy | http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/features.html |
| 17:14 | #link http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/features.html | |
| 17:14 | dogi | replaceafill, if you see sugarlabs.org environment as a school which works over irc ... which now has some gsoc scholars ... |
| 17:14 | hhardy, thx | |
| 17:15 | hhardy | yw |
| 17:15 | lfaraone | dogi: #topic it, and I'll give an update. |
| 17:16 | dogi | #action dogi thinks about further integration of schooltool |
| 17:16 | #topic update rtVM | |
| 17:16 | replaceafill | dogi, i could gladly answer more questions after the meeting if you want :) |
| 17:17 | sorry i got confused | |
| 17:18 | lfaraone | RT is now functional and unknown users are able to send emails and get a ticket back. |
| 17:18 | dogi | replaceafill, np we will speak more after the meeting as you suggested |
| 17:18 | lfaraone, congrats | |
| 17:18 | replaceafill | dogi, ok |
| 17:19 | lfaraone | Some people have accounts. Those who do have recieved an email with credentials. If you didn't get one, but want an account,let me know. |
| 17:19 | Soon we'll have a better procedure for requesting RT accounts. | |
| 17:20 | dogi | lfaraone, which is the actual test rt mail ??? |
| 17:20 | lfaraone | Basic documentation is at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Request_Tracker |
| 17:20 | dogi | #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Request_Tracker |
| 17:20 | lfaraone | dogi: by the way, did you up the ram on RT? |
| 17:21 | silbe | lfaraone: is there some quick intro to using RT? |
| 17:21 | dogi | ups forgot ... |
| 17:21 | silbe, can you do this ... | |
| 17:21 | lfaraone | dogi: tickets 1 - 5 |
| 17:21 | dogi: we also need a SSL cert for rt. | |
| 17:21 | silbe | dogi: do what? |
| 17:21 | dogi | 2GB of ram for RT |
| 17:22 | silbe | dogi: if you remind me tomorrow, I'll have a try. |
| 17:23 | dogi | lfaraone, self signature cert or ca cert? |
| 17:23 | lfaraone | dogi: ca preferred. |
| 17:23 | dogi | _bernie, do you have access to this |
| 17:24 | lfaraone | dogi: do you need a CSR, or should I generate that? |
| 17:24 | dogi | lfaraone, we can replace this later anyway ... would start with what you can ... |
| 17:25 | CSR? | |
| 17:25 | lfaraone | dogi: certificate signing request |
| 17:25 | dogi | lfaraone, go for it :) |
| 17:26 | #link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C[…]e_signing_request | |
| 17:27 | as-long silbe and hhardy our two security specialist agree ... | |
| 17:27 | lfaraone | dogi: sure. add it as an action item and it'll get done. |
| 17:28 | dogi | #action lfaraone set up ssl cert for https on rtVM |
| 17:30 | lfaraone, when do you think we can add there http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]/Getting_Involved rt email instead of private email | |
| 17:30 | silbe | dogi: I asked him to ;) |
| 17:31 | bernie and I need to work on getting Sugarlabs organisation-assured at CAcert | |
| 17:31 | so far bernie has a regular user account and is the only one who can create certificates => bottleneck | |
| 17:32 | lfaraone | dogi: if RT is backed up, now. |
| 17:32 | dogi | silbe, _bernie and hhardy hope you are seeing this the same way as me, no private addresses in important recruiting places |
| 17:32 | lfaraone | dogi: but publicize @sl.o addresses, not rt.sl.o addresses. We'll have the former redir to the latter. |
| 17:33 | dogi: ssl task added, RT#7 :P | |
| 17:33 | silbe | dogi: what do you mean? |
| 17:34 | dogi | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]/Getting_Involved |
| 17:35 | on this page there are at least 3 private emails ... | |
| 17:35 | lfaraone | is out. |
| 17:35 | dogi | wants there public RT emails |
| 17:35 | hhardy | dogi: yes we don't need more spam |
| 17:36 | dogi | hhardy, good point but contact should be transparent in a opensource project |
| 17:37 | at least so that every sl user is able to look into them' | |
| 17:37 | hhardy | it can go to an alias thus people can drop off the alias and their personal account no longer gets the spam |
| 17:37 | dogi | +1 hhardy |
| 17:39 | the question is more when should we add rt to this getting involved page | |
| 17:39 | this week? | |
| 17:40 | _bernie, silbe hhardy lfaraone please vote ... don t want to decide this alone ... | |
| 17:41 | hhardy | do we know what it is being used for and who is answering the tickets? |
| 17:41 | dogi | hmm |
| 17:42 | dfarning is already warned | |
| 17:42 | tomeu and caroline should be noticed ... | |
| 17:43 | hhardy | as soon as we have people committed to answering the tickets |
| 17:44 | dogi | hhardy, I would forward the tickets to the actual email addresses there |
| 17:44 | silbe | dogi: what do you want to vote on? |
| 17:44 | dogi | like in rt.laptop.org |
| 17:45 | hhardy | do we know who those people will be and have they agreed to this? |
| 17:46 | dogi | silbe, if we all agree to put an rt email instance in between private mails and the getting involved page ... |
| 17:46 | hhardy, <dogi> dfarning is already warned | |
| 17:46 | <dogi> tomeu and caroline should be noticed .. | |
| 17:47 | hhardy | yes good idea |
| 17:47 | _bernie | dogi: sorry I was offline |
| 17:47 | dogi | basically we could start with People Person |
| 17:47 | _bernie | reads backlog |
| 17:54 | dogi | ups |
| 17:54 | back | |
| 17:57 | let s move this to the next meeting | |
| 17:57 | has to leave | |
| 17:57 | #endmeeting |