Time |
Nick |
Message |
16:01 |
dogi |
#info Weekly Infrastructure meeting: |
16:01 |
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#info Volunteer Infrastructure Gang (http://olpcorps.org/ ), |
16:01 |
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#info Sugarlabs Infrastructure Team (http://sugarlabs.org/ ), |
16:01 |
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#info and TreeHousers (http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ ) |
16:01 |
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#info Date: 2010-04-27 |
16:01 |
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#info Time: 20:00 UTC (16:00 EST, 21:00 CET) |
16:01 |
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#info Location: #treehouse on irc.oftc.net |
16:02 |
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#link http://embed.mibbit.com/?serve[…]nnel=%23treehouse |
16:02 |
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#topic agenda |
16:02 |
|
#info * move alsocluster to RIT |
16:03 |
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#info * update about somoszucar.org |
16:03 |
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#info * update about rt.sugarlabs.org |
16:04 |
|
silbe, hhardy _bernie other topics |
16:04 |
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we should speak about? |
16:04 |
hhardy |
monitoring |
16:05 |
dogi |
#info * update about monitoring.sugarlabs.org |
16:06 |
silbe |
half-there (other half in #olpc-devel) |
16:06 |
dogi |
hi silbe |
16:07 |
|
#topic move of aslocluster to RIT |
16:08 |
|
the servers which are right now hosted by pika.mit.edu |
16:08 |
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will be unracked tomorrow ... |
16:08 |
|
hhardy, can you help me there? |
16:08 |
hhardy |
do you want a hand with that |
16:08 |
|
yes |
16:08 |
dogi |
thx :) |
16:08 |
hhardy |
what time? |
16:09 |
dogi |
14:00? later? earlier? |
16:10 |
|
hhardy, tell me ... |
16:11 |
hhardy |
15:00 at pika? |
16:11 |
dogi |
ok |
16:11 |
|
the further plan is to go by car with CanoeBerry |
16:12 |
|
to Rochester |
16:12 |
|
right now the schedule is to start at 6pm |
16:13 |
silbe |
IIRC the cluster isn't in use yet; everything running from sunjammer / housetree? |
16:13 |
dogi |
but I hope we can start earlier so that we can be there at the user group meeting in RIT with walter |
16:13 |
hhardy |
tomorrow? |
16:14 |
dogi |
silbe, yes good point right now treehouse and sunjammer are taking the aslo load |
16:14 |
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hhardy, ups yes forgot this thursday ... |
16:14 |
|
thursday 6pm |
16:15 |
hhardy |
is that an overnight type thing? |
16:15 |
dogi |
silbe, so there will be no downtime with http://activities.sugarlabs.org |
16:16 |
silbe |
dogi: good, that's what I was worried about :) |
16:16 |
dogi |
:P |
16:16 |
CanoeBerry |
Thurs Noon Sharp we're leaving pika to Rochester. See you there! |
16:16 |
icarito |
hello all |
16:17 |
dogi |
thank you adam for offering your time and your car for this |
16:17 |
silbe |
yay to CanoeBerry! :) |
16:17 |
dogi |
hi icarito |
16:17 |
hhardy |
Rochester trip is returning when? |
16:18 |
CanoeBerry |
Not returning. |
16:18 |
dogi |
:) |
16:18 |
hhardy |
? |
16:18 |
CanoeBerry |
Onto Canada etc. |
16:18 |
hhardy |
dogi is not returning? |
16:19 |
CanoeBerry |
Dogi will live the rest of his life on the Canadian-US boundary. |
16:19 |
dogi |
hhardy, will figure that out on the fly ... since I have no server to carry I will be much more mobile :P |
16:19 |
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CanoeBerry, +1 |
16:20 |
CanoeBerry |
Greyhound&Amtrak cheaper if you plan of course. |
16:20 |
dogi |
60-90$ |
16:20 |
CanoeBerry |
But Chinatown/Megabus/etc bus to NYC is another option possibly, etc -- your business :) |
16:21 |
dogi |
bingo ... |
16:21 |
|
icarito, are you willing to be next? update of somoszucar.org |
16:21 |
icarito |
sure dogi |
16:22 |
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now? |
16:22 |
dogi |
#topic update about somoszucar.org |
16:22 |
icarito |
i guess yes |
16:23 |
|
:-) |
16:23 |
dogi |
hmm think I have written the domain wrong |
16:23 |
icarito |
well we had an event last saturday - we recorded 4 presentations |
16:23 |
dogi |
yes icarito |
16:23 |
icarito |
yes the correct domain is "somosazucar.org" |
16:23 |
hhardy |
amtrak departures thursday from rochester to boston the last one is 15:30 |
16:23 |
icarito |
http://somosazucar.org/ |
16:23 |
dogi |
#topic update about somosazucar.org |
16:24 |
icarito |
ok so previously we only had pe.sugarlabs.org |
16:24 |
dogi |
#link http://somosazucar.org/ |
16:24 |
icarito |
i need to put a logo on that |
16:24 |
|
basically i've returned from colombia where i stayed 3 months and started moving things here and we have some visitor volunteers |
16:25 |
|
so first thing was to improve communications |
16:25 |
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so now our website is functional |
16:25 |
|
and we want to use microbloging |
16:25 |
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to connect schools |
16:25 |
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so thats where http://somosazucar.status.net/ comes int |
16:26 |
dogi |
icarito, this page looks very nice ... not only functional |
16:26 |
icarito |
its a status.net instance |
16:26 |
|
dogi, thank you |
16:26 |
dogi |
#link http://somosazucar.status.net |
16:26 |
icarito |
there is the !somosazucar identi.ca group too |
16:27 |
|
if you join the group tagging with !somosazucar will put the notice on the website |
16:27 |
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so we have tuukka and kaisa in the field |
16:27 |
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and antje, a german thesis writer |
16:27 |
|
we want to visit schools |
16:27 |
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i wrote Intel and we have a meeting tomorrow |
16:27 |
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maybe they will give us some classmates, |
16:28 |
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if we get the funding, we want to visit schools across the amazon |
16:28 |
|
:-) |
16:28 |
|
also pending is formalizing our status as local lab with sugar labs |
16:28 |
CanoeBerry |
hhardy: thurs+fri nights in Rochester are the smart plan |
16:28 |
icarito |
thats my update |
16:28 |
|
will write after tomorrow to IAEP |
16:29 |
hhardy |
I can't make it I have a job interview Fri morning |
16:29 |
icarito |
maybe i'd like to share this infrastructure with other local labs |
16:29 |
|
i mean I would absolutely |
16:29 |
dogi |
that sounds great ... can you tell us something about the technical setup of this page |
16:29 |
CanoeBerry |
hhardy: best o' luck!! |
16:29 |
hhardy |
thanks! |
16:29 |
dogi |
+1 |
16:30 |
silbe |
hhardy: good luck! |
16:30 |
icarito |
its basically wordpress with a blog.txt theme and a couple of plugins for feed integratino |
16:30 |
|
wordpress-mu |
16:30 |
|
i wanted to use social networking but using free software |
16:30 |
|
and not building an island like our own social network (which buddypress and mumble could do) |
16:30 |
dogi |
#link http://mu.wordpress.org/ |
16:31 |
icarito |
so ident.ca integration plus externally hosted by status.net was the winner |
16:31 |
|
plus it worked great and quick |
16:31 |
|
pending for them is to update translations and hopefully remove the aweful google ad |
16:31 |
dogi |
and did you connect identica with wordpress |
16:31 |
|
ahh now I get it |
16:32 |
icarito |
dogi, both ways, you get the stream on the side of the blog, and also new posts get 'dented to identi.ca |
16:32 |
dogi |
status.net is something like a blog for this wordpress-mu |
16:32 |
icarito |
status.net is to microbloging what wordpress is to blogging |
16:33 |
dogi |
thats very cool :) good job icarito |
16:33 |
icarito |
thanks dogi :-) we plan to connect schools to this so i hope to see much more activity from users soon |
16:33 |
|
thank you for your time and feedback |
16:33 |
|
any suggestions are welcome! |
16:35 |
dogi |
is happy |
16:35 |
|
has somebody else questions? |
16:36 |
|
hhardy, next would be you ... ok? |
16:36 |
hhardy |
hi |
16:36 |
|
http://monitoring.sugarlabs.org/munin/index.html |
16:36 |
dogi |
#topic update monitoringVM |
16:36 |
hhardy |
monitoring is working for housetree and treehouse |
16:37 |
dogi |
#link http://monitoring.sugarlabs.org/munin/index.html |
16:37 |
hhardy |
I think the next logical step is to set up nagios and integrate it onto munin |
16:37 |
dogi |
oh yes |
16:38 |
hhardy |
it is very easy to set up munin so I can easily add any more hosts to which I have root access |
16:38 |
|
the only peculiar thing is that host addresses have to be written as regular expressions |
16:38 |
|
in the config file |
16:39 |
dogi |
hhardy, jupp i remember |
16:39 |
|
#action hhardy nagios on monitoring |
16:39 |
hhardy |
thats about all for now I will start nagios next |
16:40 |
dogi |
#action dogi give hhardy access to all treehouseVMs |
16:41 |
|
ping lfaraone? |
16:41 |
|
#topic problems moving VM from treehouse to housetree |
16:42 |
jelkner |
lfaraone appears greyed out on my list of people present |
16:42 |
dogi |
thx jelkner |
16:42 |
lfaraone |
dogi: hello world. |
16:43 |
dogi |
I was solving my last meeting action by moving sharing for openetherpad |
16:43 |
|
from treehouse to housetree |
16:43 |
|
hi lfaraone |
16:44 |
jelkner |
dogi, is this a good time to discuss that server? |
16:44 |
dogi |
by that I found out that the new VM templates are not able to move so easily |
16:44 |
|
silbe, do you have time to help me there |
16:45 |
|
jelkner, yes next topic ... ok? |
16:45 |
|
hi replaceafill |
16:45 |
silbe |
dogi: help with what exactly? |
16:45 |
replaceafill |
hello dogi |
16:45 |
jelkner |
so there are two unrelated topics i have for today |
16:45 |
dogi |
silbe, will show you the exact problem in a screen ... |
16:46 |
lfaraone |
jelkner: are they on the agenda? |
16:46 |
silbe |
dogi: ok, I'll try to find time tomorrow. |
16:46 |
dogi |
silbe, thx |
16:46 |
jelkner |
lfaraone, probably not |
16:46 |
|
i don't know how to get things on the agenda |
16:46 |
lfaraone |
jelkner: you go to the link and type it in. |
16:46 |
dogi |
lfaraone, there was not link today |
16:46 |
jelkner |
lfaraone, can you be more specific, what link? |
16:47 |
dogi |
openetherpad is always on ... |
16:47 |
jelkner |
dogi, i'm not real bright, you have to make this easy or i can't do it! |
16:47 |
dogi |
#topic wikipediaserver @ ACC |
16:48 |
jelkner |
#topic Sugarized SchoolTool instance |
16:49 |
dogi |
ahh ok |
16:49 |
jelkner |
well both |
16:49 |
_bernie |
dogi: ugh |
16:49 |
|
dogi: sorry for being late... again |
16:49 |
dogi |
jelkner, which topic first? |
16:49 |
|
hi _bernie |
16:49 |
jelkner |
ok, wikipediaserver |
16:49 |
|
i'll start |
16:49 |
dogi |
yes go |
16:49 |
jelkner |
we have a server at ACC |
16:49 |
|
i guess you set it up |
16:50 |
dogi |
jupp |
16:50 |
jelkner |
APS will impose the following requirements: |
16:50 |
lfaraone |
has a few more, but they're not currently installed anywhere pending Ivan's server installation and confirmation from sponsors |
16:50 |
jelkner |
1. it be admined by our sys admin |
16:50 |
|
hgrover, is here now |
16:50 |
|
he and mattva01 are in charge of the machines in that closet |
16:50 |
|
and 2. |
16:50 |
|
that it be used by APS students |
16:50 |
|
so.. |
16:51 |
dogi |
#info kuckuck has ip 158.59.200.140 |
16:51 |
jelkner |
i have a proposal |
16:51 |
lfaraone |
jelkner: can we (SL) have root access to the macine? |
16:51 |
jelkner |
we let lfaraone use it for USR work |
16:51 |
|
lfaraone, yes |
16:51 |
dogi |
hi hgrover |
16:51 |
hgrover |
hi dogi =) |
16:51 |
jelkner |
since you are an APS student |
16:51 |
|
but mattva01 or hgrover will need root also |
16:51 |
lfaraone |
jelkner: can non-APS projects be run on it? |
16:52 |
jelkner |
what is a non-aps project |
16:52 |
dogi |
jelkner, this is all fine with me ... |
16:52 |
|
lfaraone, +1 |
16:52 |
jelkner |
since sugar labs dc is here |
16:52 |
CanoeBerry |
jelkner aside: are you coming to the deployment summit may 28-31? |
16:52 |
jelkner |
CanoeBerry, where? |
16:52 |
lfaraone |
hgrover: did you GPG-sign the SAGE code of ethics? we usually have SL sysadmins do so. http://www.sage.org/ethics/ |
16:52 |
CanoeBerry |
US Virgin Islands, will almost all continents represented -- Waveplace.org is hosting |
16:52 |
hgrover |
Will do, remind me later lfaraone? |
16:53 |
jelkner |
ok, that sounds like we have agreement |
16:53 |
CanoeBerry |
*with almost all continents represented |
16:53 |
jelkner |
i like easy solutions |
16:53 |
lfaraone |
hgrover: yessir. |
16:53 |
jelkner |
so, next item? |
16:54 |
dogi |
#topic Sugarized SchoolTool instance |
16:54 |
jelkner |
ok, replaceafill has been busy |
16:54 |
|
http://schooltool.sugarlabs.org:9999/calendar |
16:54 |
|
he did this on dogi's request |
16:54 |
|
at this point, we need more customer user stories |
16:55 |
|
how will the instance be used? |
16:55 |
|
what do you need it to do? |
16:55 |
replaceafill |
it still needs css work though |
16:55 |
jelkner |
and how do you want it to look? ;-) |
16:55 |
lfaraone |
replaceafill: idle curiosity, can SchoolTool use openID for authentication? |
16:55 |
|
(we have it on (almost) all our other sites) |
16:56 |
jelkner |
lfaraone, cool idea |
16:56 |
replaceafill |
lfaraone, no that i know |
16:56 |
jelkner |
replaceafill, what would it take? |
16:56 |
replaceafill |
lfaraone, i've only seen cas |
16:56 |
dogi |
would like to use this schooltool instance for all our sugarlabs/treehouse meeting and teachings |
16:56 |
replaceafill |
jelkner, finding out how to do it :P |
16:57 |
|
dogi, can you give an example of that? |
16:57 |
jelkner |
replaceafill, it may be a good thing to look into |
16:57 |
replaceafill |
i mean, for meetings? |
16:58 |
dogi |
right now we are using google calender to post this stuff |
16:58 |
|
http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ |
16:58 |
replaceafill |
dogi, ah, you're interested in schooltool calendar |
16:58 |
jelkner |
so using ST would be a move to free software, nice. |
16:58 |
dogi |
if you look at the bottom |
16:58 |
jelkner |
that's great |
16:59 |
|
we don't have any real calendar users |
16:59 |
dogi |
replaceafill, that would be only the first step |
16:59 |
jelkner |
that would be helpful for the project as well |
16:59 |
replaceafill |
ah |
16:59 |
CanoeBerry |
jelkner: any interest in meeting OLPC/Sugar/Waveplace deployment folk from around the world for a couple days?! |
17:00 |
jelkner |
CanoeBerry, of course |
17:00 |
|
but my time and resources are limited |
17:00 |
|
anything on a weekend not to far from DC i could do |
17:00 |
|
boston is possible |
17:00 |
replaceafill |
dogi, interesting, it could be done :) |
17:00 |
lfaraone |
will be back in 5. |
17:01 |
CanoeBerry |
jelkner: May 28-31 if you want to be part of history |
17:01 |
jelkner |
where? |
17:01 |
CanoeBerry |
jump on a flight to STT |
17:01 |
dogi |
hopes that in the near futur sugar will hold irc teachings and other events which involves more scholars and not only events |
17:01 |
CanoeBerry |
Non-stop flights from NYC are awesome. |
17:01 |
|
Or Atlanta. DC might require a stop. |
17:02 |
jelkner |
CanoeBerry, where is STT? |
17:02 |
dogi |
replaceafill, question is this schooltool instance working fine for the 3 other schools? |
17:03 |
|
CanoeBerry, please ... :) |
17:03 |
CanoeBerry |
US Virgin Islands. Very quick 2hr flight from Miami. 3hr flight from Atlanta. 4hr flight from NYC. |
17:03 |
replaceafill |
dogi, you mean if we're using the same instance for all the schools? |
17:03 |
|
we have three ST instances running |
17:03 |
hgrover |
I've got to go now, bye everybody! |
17:04 |
dogi |
no not only if more if the resources are enough ... |
17:04 |
CanoeBerry |
STT is a major airport there, quick ferry to the maho.org site, right on the edge of the National Park there, and very cheap. |
17:04 |
replaceafill |
dogi, so far it's been good, although we haven't had concurrent users yet for instance |
17:05 |
dogi |
hgrover, can you send me your your loginname and a sshkey? |
17:05 |
hgrover |
left |
17:05 |
|
jelkner is on his computer typing |
17:05 |
dogi |
:) |
17:07 |
|
replaceafill, ok ... |
17:09 |
|
jelkner, was my answer enough? |
17:09 |
lfaraone |
dogi: I'll get his keys sneaker-net-like and gpgsign them to you. |
17:10 |
dogi |
replaceafill, is there something I should know ... which schooltool is able to do and would be nice to have? |
17:11 |
|
lfaraone, thx ... wait first for my new key :) |
17:12 |
|
hmmm |
17:13 |
|
lfaraone, then lets move to the last but very important topic of RT |
17:13 |
replaceafill |
dogi, sorry, i dont understand, you want to know what features SchoolTool has? |
17:13 |
|
is sorry he's confused |
17:13 |
hhardy |
http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/features.html |
17:14 |
|
#link http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/features.html |
17:14 |
dogi |
replaceafill, if you see sugarlabs.org environment as a school which works over irc ... which now has some gsoc scholars ... |
17:14 |
|
hhardy, thx |
17:15 |
hhardy |
yw |
17:15 |
lfaraone |
dogi: #topic it, and I'll give an update. |
17:16 |
dogi |
#action dogi thinks about further integration of schooltool |
17:16 |
|
#topic update rtVM |
17:16 |
replaceafill |
dogi, i could gladly answer more questions after the meeting if you want :) |
17:17 |
|
sorry i got confused |
17:18 |
lfaraone |
RT is now functional and unknown users are able to send emails and get a ticket back. |
17:18 |
dogi |
replaceafill, np we will speak more after the meeting as you suggested |
17:18 |
|
lfaraone, congrats |
17:18 |
replaceafill |
dogi, ok |
17:19 |
lfaraone |
Some people have accounts. Those who do have recieved an email with credentials. If you didn't get one, but want an account,let me know. |
17:19 |
|
Soon we'll have a better procedure for requesting RT accounts. |
17:20 |
dogi |
lfaraone, which is the actual test rt mail ??? |
17:20 |
lfaraone |
Basic documentation is at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Request_Tracker |
17:20 |
dogi |
#link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Request_Tracker |
17:20 |
lfaraone |
dogi: by the way, did you up the ram on RT? |
17:21 |
silbe |
lfaraone: is there some quick intro to using RT? |
17:21 |
dogi |
ups forgot ... |
17:21 |
|
silbe, can you do this ... |
17:21 |
lfaraone |
dogi: tickets 1 - 5 |
17:21 |
|
dogi: we also need a SSL cert for rt. |
17:21 |
silbe |
dogi: do what? |
17:21 |
dogi |
2GB of ram for RT |
17:22 |
silbe |
dogi: if you remind me tomorrow, I'll have a try. |
17:23 |
dogi |
lfaraone, self signature cert or ca cert? |
17:23 |
lfaraone |
dogi: ca preferred. |
17:23 |
dogi |
_bernie, do you have access to this |
17:24 |
lfaraone |
dogi: do you need a CSR, or should I generate that? |
17:24 |
dogi |
lfaraone, we can replace this later anyway ... would start with what you can ... |
17:25 |
|
CSR? |
17:25 |
lfaraone |
dogi: certificate signing request |
17:25 |
dogi |
lfaraone, go for it :) |
17:26 |
|
#link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C[…]e_signing_request |
17:27 |
|
as-long silbe and hhardy our two security specialist agree ... |
17:27 |
lfaraone |
dogi: sure. add it as an action item and it'll get done. |
17:28 |
dogi |
#action lfaraone set up ssl cert for https on rtVM |
17:30 |
|
lfaraone, when do you think we can add there http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]/Getting_Involved rt email instead of private email |
17:30 |
silbe |
dogi: I asked him to ;) |
17:31 |
|
bernie and I need to work on getting Sugarlabs organisation-assured at CAcert |
17:31 |
|
so far bernie has a regular user account and is the only one who can create certificates => bottleneck |
17:32 |
lfaraone |
dogi: if RT is backed up, now. |
17:32 |
dogi |
silbe, _bernie and hhardy hope you are seeing this the same way as me, no private addresses in important recruiting places |
17:32 |
lfaraone |
dogi: but publicize @sl.o addresses, not rt.sl.o addresses. We'll have the former redir to the latter. |
17:33 |
|
dogi: ssl task added, RT#7 :P |
17:33 |
silbe |
dogi: what do you mean? |
17:34 |
dogi |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]/Getting_Involved |
17:35 |
|
on this page there are at least 3 private emails ... |
17:35 |
lfaraone |
is out. |
17:35 |
dogi |
wants there public RT emails |
17:35 |
hhardy |
dogi: yes we don't need more spam |
17:36 |
dogi |
hhardy, good point but contact should be transparent in a opensource project |
17:37 |
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at least so that every sl user is able to look into them' |
17:37 |
hhardy |
it can go to an alias thus people can drop off the alias and their personal account no longer gets the spam |
17:37 |
dogi |
+1 hhardy |
17:39 |
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the question is more when should we add rt to this getting involved page |
17:39 |
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this week? |
17:40 |
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_bernie, silbe hhardy lfaraone please vote ... don t want to decide this alone ... |
17:41 |
hhardy |
do we know what it is being used for and who is answering the tickets? |
17:41 |
dogi |
hmm |
17:42 |
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dfarning is already warned |
17:42 |
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tomeu and caroline should be noticed ... |
17:43 |
hhardy |
as soon as we have people committed to answering the tickets |
17:44 |
dogi |
hhardy, I would forward the tickets to the actual email addresses there |
17:44 |
silbe |
dogi: what do you want to vote on? |
17:44 |
dogi |
like in rt.laptop.org |
17:45 |
hhardy |
do we know who those people will be and have they agreed to this? |
17:46 |
dogi |
silbe, if we all agree to put an rt email instance in between private mails and the getting involved page ... |
17:46 |
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hhardy, <dogi> dfarning is already warned |
17:46 |
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<dogi> tomeu and caroline should be noticed .. |
17:47 |
hhardy |
yes good idea |
17:47 |
_bernie |
dogi: sorry I was offline |
17:47 |
dogi |
basically we could start with People Person |
17:47 |
_bernie |
reads backlog |
17:54 |
dogi |
ups |
17:54 |
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back |
17:57 |
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let s move this to the next meeting |
17:57 |
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has to leave |
17:57 |
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