| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 16:01 | dogi | #info Weekly Infrastructure meeting: |
| 16:01 | #info Volunteer Infrastructure Gang (http://olpcorps.org/ ), | |
| 16:01 | #info Sugarlabs Infrastructure Team (http://sugarlabs.org/ ), | |
| 16:01 | #info and TreeHousers (http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ ) | |
| 16:02 | #startmeeting | |
| 16:02 | #info Weekly Infrastructure meeting: | |
| 16:02 | #info Volunteer Infrastructure Gang (http://olpcorps.org/ ), | |
| 16:02 | #info Sugarlabs Infrastructure Team (http://sugarlabs.org/ ), | |
| 16:02 | #info and TreeHousers (http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ ) | |
| 16:02 | #info Date: 2010-04-20 | |
| 16:02 | #info Time: 20:00 UTC (16:00 EST, 21:00 CET) | |
| 16:02 | #info Agenda: | |
| 16:02 | #info Location: #treehouse on irc.oftc.net | |
| 16:02 | #link http://embed.mibbit.com/?serve[…]nnel=%23treehouse | |
| 16:02 | #topic last meeting | |
| 16:02 | #info Usefull Links: | |
| 16:02 | #info LastAgenda: | |
| 16:02 | #link http://openetherpad.org/tCl6T4lXnR | |
| 16:02 | #info LastLog: | |
| 16:02 | #link http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/tr[…]0100413_1607.html | |
| 16:02 | #info LastMinutes: | |
| 16:02 | #link http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/tr[…]0100413_1607.html | |
| 16:02 | ups | |
| 16:02 | copy paste error | |
| 16:02 | thx meeting | |
| 16:02 | #topic agenda | |
| 16:03 | #info openetherpad - cjb | |
| 16:04 | silbe | #info DNS - silbe |
| 16:04 | dogi | that means today i have to write everything |
| 16:04 | thx silbe | |
| 16:05 | #info main discussion today is how to enhance aslo | |
| 16:05 | #info aslo @ RIT update | |
| 16:05 | ping _bernie | |
| 16:05 | #info move jabber to sunjammer - bernie | |
| 16:06 | #info treehouse stability improvments | |
| 16:06 | ping hhardy | |
| 16:07 | ping cjb | |
| 16:07 | cjb | hi |
| 16:07 | dogi | somebody something to add? |
| 16:08 | mischoe, ? | |
| 16:08 | cjb, you first? | |
| 16:09 | cjb | dunno what you're asking about, sorry |
| 16:09 | I think treehouse has bad RAM. | |
| 16:09 | dogi | thx cjb that too |
| 16:10 | #topic openehterpadVM on treehouse | |
| 16:10 | #topic openehterpadVM on housetree | |
| 16:10 | sorry wrong place | |
| 16:11 | cjb | dogi expressed interest in running an etherpad instance |
| 16:11 | I'm currently running openetherpad.{com,net,org} on my OLPC workstation | |
| 16:11 | but it uses too much RAM -- around 4GB | |
| 16:11 | so if you want to run it on housetree instead, that's fine with me, I can migrate it over. | |
| 16:12 | dogi | #link http://sunjammer.sugarlabs.org[…].org.html#Virtual machine |
| 16:12 | since we already decided this in one the first meetings | |
| 16:13 | approved | |
| 16:13 | objections ? | |
| 16:14 | #topic DNS - silbe | |
| 16:14 | hi jelkner | |
| 16:15 | silbe | some days ago I finished the BIND format -> tinydns-data format conversion |
| 16:15 | it's checked in, but inactive | |
| 16:16 | so everybody can take a look at it easily | |
| 16:16 | jelkner | hi dogi! |
| 16:16 | silbe | I'd like to get some feedback on it. Is this how we want to maintain our DNS data in the future? |
| 16:17 | cjb | probably need _bernie for that |
| 16:17 | dogi | +1 |
| 16:18 | silbe | bernie is opposed to me changing the CNAMEs to automatically resolved A records. I still think the latter are a much better idea, but could be coerced to use CNAMEs instead. |
| 16:18 | dogi | is totally fine that |
| 16:18 | silbe | dogi: with what, exactly? |
| 16:18 | dogi | aslong _bernie agrees |
| 16:19 | silbe, i understand _bernie there too | |
| 16:20 | silbe | dogi: so you basically leave the decision up to bernie and me? :) |
| 16:20 | dogi | can we agree you show us how to maintain this over screen? |
| 16:20 | silbe | dogi: sure |
| 16:20 | dogi | #action dogi silbe _bernie screen session ... dns |
| 16:21 | ping _bernie | |
| 16:22 | silbe | just to make it clear: the CNAME change is mostly unrelated to the format change - it's just that before the format change it would have been to hard to implement the automatic resolving of aliases, so I did the CNAME change after the conversion. |
| 16:23 | dogi | i know but i would like to know how to maintain this and think bernie has similar concern |
| 16:24 | silbe | dogi: you mean tinydns-data format or aliases instead of CNAMEs? |
| 16:24 | dogi | yeah |
| 16:24 | silbe | lol |
| 16:24 | I like it when either-or questions are answered with yes ;) | |
| 16:24 | dogi | #topic aslocamp @ rit |
| 16:25 | I need to get more information on these pieces of equipment and what they | |
| 16:25 | support. Can you answer the questions below for me please. | |
| 16:25 | 1) Is this research project a Golisano College research project? | |
| 16:25 | 2) Who is in charge of this project? | |
| 16:25 | 3) Where is the equipment stored right now? | |
| 16:25 | 4) Who will need access to this equipment? | |
| 16:25 | 5) How long do you expect project to last? | |
| 16:25 | 6) What services are offered off from this server? | |
| 16:25 | 7) Who will administer this server? | |
| 16:26 | 8) Do they meet all of the Security office standards? | |
| 16:26 | 9) Are these 1U server blades? | |
| 16:26 | 10) Besides space, what other requirements do you have? Network connections? | |
| 16:26 | Number of power outlets? Etc... | |
| 16:26 | silbe can u help me there | |
| 16:26 | cdeslandes, | |
| 16:27 | this was in my mail today | |
| 16:27 | 6) also - http://activities.sugarlabs.org | |
| 16:28 | silbe | dogi: probably not - most of these are administrative questions I have no idea about; dfarning might know. I know next to nothing about the physical part of the servers as well while you have seen and played with them. |
| 16:28 | dogi | #action dogi answer this form |
| 16:28 | Here are the standards they want you to meet... | |
| 16:28 | The security standards are here: | |
| 16:28 | http://security.rit.edu/standards/index.html | |
| 16:28 | Please read: password standard, server security standard, web standard | |
| 16:29 | #link http://security.rit.edu/standards/index.html | |
| 16:29 | #info security request of RIT for aslo | |
| 16:30 | #action treehousers read this for next week dicussion | |
| 16:31 | other news for the moving to RIT plan in 10 days | |
| 16:32 | adam for olpc/sugar would like to join as there with walter and stephen jacobs ... | |
| 16:32 | Subject: Those 3 blades Im looking to rack somewhere | |
| 16:32 | 500 Watt power supply per machine, which | |
| 16:32 | means they require 1,500 Watts of power total, which is about 12.5 | |
| 16:32 | Amps | |
| 16:32 | of power and about 5,250 BTUs of Thermal energy. | |
| 16:33 | was smile - ing a lot here | |
| 16:34 | #link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_thermal_unit | |
| 16:34 | that was all for here | |
| 16:35 | #action dogi djbclark hhardy unracking aslo at pika in 7-8 days? | |
| 16:36 | #topic treehouse stability improvments | |
| 16:37 | http://sunjammer.sugarlabs.org[…].org.html#Virtual | |
| 16:37 | #link http://sunjammer.sugarlabs.org[…]irtual%20machines | |
| 16:38 | as you see there had an other ping :) this time from aslo | |
| 16:38 | Confirm the memory in there is correct and all the same. | |
| 16:38 | Physically check what is in there versus what is required as far as ECC/non ECC particularly. | |
| 16:38 | Make sure ECC memory is enabled in BIOS if that is what is required and physically in the box. | |
| 16:38 | Check that BIOS version is current and correct | |
| 16:38 | http://techreport.com/forums/v[…]c.php?f=7&t=69030 | |
| 16:38 | http://www.x86-64.org/pipermai[…]thread.html#10584 | |
| 16:39 | silbe | dogi: I hope the average power consumption is way below that - we'd need to sum up the data sheet values for all components to figure it out, though :-/ |
| 16:39 | dogi | this was hhardy s anwser |
| 16:39 | there is a 2 mounth old bios there | |
| 16:40 | but his concerns but ECC | |
| 16:40 | ups about | |
| 16:40 | Looks like bad RAM; the cryptic messages are background checks of ECC | |
| 16:40 | checksums (scrubbing) failing. I'd suggest running memtest86. | |
| 16:41 | <- cjb s answer | |
| 16:41 | +1 | |
| 16:41 | cjb | yeah, hopefully memtest will tell you which stick is bad |
| 16:41 | dogi | the problem is more how to get to gnaps |
| 16:43 | silbe can you post a link with the picture i sended over mail? | |
| 16:43 | djbclark, hhardy cjb _bernie which is the best way to get there ... | |
| 16:44 | #link http://www.gnaps.com/ | |
| 16:45 | silbe | dogi: you mean this one? http://sascha.silbe.org/tmp/tr[…]slo-web-crash.png |
| 16:45 | dogi | hopes djbclark tells him that I need only to go there and don t have to ask permission |
| 16:46 | thx silbe | |
| 16:46 | silbe | that link isn't going to last long, though :) |
| 16:46 | dogi | then hope in the internet archives :) |
| 16:47 | silbe, 2 months? | |
| 16:47 | more next week hopefully | |
| 16:48 | #topic brainstorm how to enhance aslo | |
| 16:48 | since also | |
| 16:48 | #link http://activities.sugarlabs.org | |
| 16:49 | for sugar-laptops (XO, soas) is like itunes for ipads ... | |
| 16:50 | ups ipods | |
| 16:51 | we should think about how to improve first service for end users | |
| 16:51 | alsroot, ping | |
| 16:52 | alsroot | dogi: yup |
| 16:52 | dogi | how can we connect something like ideatorrent to every activity page |
| 16:52 | alsroot | dogi: but should we? |
| 16:53 | dogi | think so ... |
| 16:53 | feedback is imporant | |
| 16:53 | alsroot | dogi: the major issue is that ASLO is just downstream for AMO, so more ASLO hacking is going further from AMO |
| 16:53 | dogi | +t |
| 16:55 | alsroot | dogi: in fact I'm planing to make something like pure sugar interface to ASLO's db, it will be python activity so I can effectively hack it |
| 16:55 | thinks that deep AMO hacking is overkill for him | |
| 16:56 | dogi | right now we get in the medium 6 clicks per user |
| 16:57 | ... 8 from the meduim uruguar child per session | |
| 16:58 | #link https://www.google.com/analyti[…]lts=1271797015668 | |
| 16:58 | alsroot | dogi: I mean if we start integration process like ideatorrent integration, it will require deep AMO hacks |
| 16:58 | dogi | and yesterday we got 3 goal click in aslo |
| 16:59 | alsroot | or /me misunderstood dogi |
| 16:59 | dogi | alsroot, you should have access there |
| 16:59 | no i think it is only a little patch in a template somewhere ... | |
| 17:00 | to add a link on the activit pages ... | |
| 17:01 | alsroot | dogi: you mean just ideatorrent link on main page? |
| 17:02 | ..in addition to " * Home | |
| 17:02 | dogi | we should add there link to our specific wikipedia activity pages ... |
| 17:02 | alsroot | * Wiki |
| 17:02 | * Download | |
| 17:02 | dogi: I've created aslo-design component on bugs.sl.o ans Josh is owner, he is the man who work on ASLO design | |
| 17:04 | dogi: you can file a ticket, anyway I'm not the right person to change css/design stuff | |
| 17:05 | dogi | likes the other improvement |
| 17:05 | #link http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers | |
| 17:06 | alsroot, do you think we can get josh here sync in this meeting | |
| 17:07 | alsroot | dogi: he is yoshu on #sugar but offline for now |
| 17:10 | dogi: btw we already have "Home page" link per activity, so activity uploaders can use it | |
| 17:10 | dogi | and his email is? |
| 17:11 | you but sometimes homepage and wiki is not the same | |
| 17:11 | chat for aslo? | |
| 17:12 | alsroot | dogi: but having bunch of home page link also doesn't make sense |
| 17:12 | s/home page/ala home page/ | |
| 17:12 | dogi | :) |
| 17:13 | +1 alsroot | |
| 17:14 | alsroot | dogi: anyway all these pages should be maintained by someone.. |
| 17:15 | dogi | maintaining and enhancing are sometimes 2 things |
| 17:18 | the only other big enhancement for aslo would be sharing content | |
| 17:19 | alsroot | dogi: well, my plan if doing it in pure sugar way.. |
| 17:19 | s/if/is/ | |
| 17:19 | dogi | tell us more ... |
| 17:19 | is curious | |
| 17:20 | is there already something to download ... | |
| 17:20 | alsroot | dogi: it will be server/daemon who will look like regular sugar user for others, this bot will share Library activity instance, every sugar user can join it to see/share any objects |
| 17:21 | ..and every sugar user can share Library instance for per-to-perr sharing as well | |
| 17:21 | dogi: I'm working on it, it is not yet ready to test | |
| 17:23 | dogi: the main reason for such scheme (for me) is that it is pure python activity, thus I can improve it more effectively then hacking AMO | |
| 17:24 | dogi | shacks this non existing hut ... |
| 17:25 | do i understand you right in your system the content is peer to peer | |
| 17:26 | and the server/daemon/ in sugar friend is doing it like a bitorrent system | |
| 17:27 | sugar friends view | |
| 17:29 | he has only the information where the content is ... | |
| 17:29 | alsroot | dogi: not bitorrent, it will be regular server-client model (more over, such bot can provide access to ASLO's db) |
| 17:29 | ..in case of bot | |
| 17:30 | in case of regular users, it will be pure peer-to-peer | |
| 17:31 | dogi | more cases hmm ok |
| 17:32 | thinks it is possible to create an http output there too | |
| 17:33 | :P for streaming into the non sugar world ... | |
| 17:33 | back to also | |
| 17:33 | aslo ... | |
| 17:36 | aslo streaming software news to identica/twitter ? | |
| 17:36 | think that this is stupied | |
| 17:36 | unfortunatly i m not sure | |
| 17:36 | alsroot | thinks we just need someone who will implement this |
| 17:38 | dogi | hi lfaraone |
| 17:38 | alsroot, +1 | |
| 17:39 | hi icarito | |
| 17:39 | lfaraone | hey dogi |
| 17:40 | dogi | lfaraone, something new from rt? |
| 17:41 | ohter news? | |
| 17:41 | ht = th | |
| 17:42 | 5min and the meeting is done ... | |
| 17:43 | has to open the house door | |
| 17:43 | lfaraone | dogi: ticket creation works, but not *public* ticket creation. |
| 17:48 | dogi | cause instead of idea we could attach rt to aslo |
| 17:49 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]/Getting_Involved | |
| 17:49 | on this page there are to many private emails ... | |
| 17:49 | they all should be in rt | |
| 17:50 | icarito | hi im sorry |
| 17:50 | i could not make it | |
| 17:50 | we are running here, few hands | |
| 17:50 | dogi | icarito, no problem ... next week? |
| 17:50 | icarito | about somosazucar.org i can say I'm still working on it |
| 17:50 | ok i still promised to report to systems@ | |
| 17:50 | i have good things to share about our indentica integration / strategy | |
| 17:50 | will share on the list | |
| 17:51 | next week then | |
| 17:51 | thanks | |
| 17:52 | dogi | would like you to share it here in the meeting too, ... but list already is fine ... |
| 17:53 | icarito | maybe next week i invite you to try and tour the site |
| 17:53 | :-) | |
| 17:53 | dogi | silbe, lfaraone, do we have the mx entry rt.sl.o |
| 17:54 | icarito, :) bingo this is what i wanna have ... | |
| 17:54 | #endmeeting |
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