Time |
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16:01 |
dogi |
#info Weekly Infrastructure meeting: |
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#info Volunteer Infrastructure Gang (http://olpcorps.org/ ), |
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#info Sugarlabs Infrastructure Team (http://sugarlabs.org/ ), |
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#info and TreeHousers (http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ ) |
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#startmeeting |
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#info Weekly Infrastructure meeting: |
16:02 |
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#info Volunteer Infrastructure Gang (http://olpcorps.org/ ), |
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#info Sugarlabs Infrastructure Team (http://sugarlabs.org/ ), |
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#info and TreeHousers (http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ ) |
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#info Date: 2010-04-20 |
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#info Time: 20:00 UTC (16:00 EST, 21:00 CET) |
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#info Agenda: |
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#info Location: #treehouse on irc.oftc.net |
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#link http://embed.mibbit.com/?serve[…]nnel=%23treehouse |
16:02 |
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#topic last meeting |
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#info Usefull Links: |
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#info LastAgenda: |
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#link http://openetherpad.org/tCl6T4lXnR |
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#info LastLog: |
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#link http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/tr[…]0100413_1607.html |
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#info LastMinutes: |
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#link http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/tr[…]0100413_1607.html |
16:02 |
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ups |
16:02 |
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copy paste error |
16:02 |
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thx meeting |
16:02 |
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#topic agenda |
16:03 |
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#info openetherpad - cjb |
16:04 |
silbe |
#info DNS - silbe |
16:04 |
dogi |
that means today i have to write everything |
16:04 |
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thx silbe |
16:05 |
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#info main discussion today is how to enhance aslo |
16:05 |
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#info aslo @ RIT update |
16:05 |
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ping _bernie |
16:05 |
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#info move jabber to sunjammer - bernie |
16:06 |
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#info treehouse stability improvments |
16:06 |
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ping hhardy |
16:07 |
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ping cjb |
16:07 |
cjb |
hi |
16:07 |
dogi |
somebody something to add? |
16:08 |
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mischoe, ? |
16:08 |
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cjb, you first? |
16:09 |
cjb |
dunno what you're asking about, sorry |
16:09 |
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I think treehouse has bad RAM. |
16:09 |
dogi |
thx cjb that too |
16:10 |
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#topic openehterpadVM on treehouse |
16:10 |
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#topic openehterpadVM on housetree |
16:10 |
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sorry wrong place |
16:11 |
cjb |
dogi expressed interest in running an etherpad instance |
16:11 |
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I'm currently running openetherpad.{com,net,org} on my OLPC workstation |
16:11 |
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but it uses too much RAM -- around 4GB |
16:11 |
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so if you want to run it on housetree instead, that's fine with me, I can migrate it over. |
16:12 |
dogi |
#link http://sunjammer.sugarlabs.org[…].org.html#Virtual machine |
16:12 |
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since we already decided this in one the first meetings |
16:13 |
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approved |
16:13 |
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objections ? |
16:14 |
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#topic DNS - silbe |
16:14 |
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hi jelkner |
16:15 |
silbe |
some days ago I finished the BIND format -> tinydns-data format conversion |
16:15 |
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it's checked in, but inactive |
16:16 |
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so everybody can take a look at it easily |
16:16 |
jelkner |
hi dogi! |
16:16 |
silbe |
I'd like to get some feedback on it. Is this how we want to maintain our DNS data in the future? |
16:17 |
cjb |
probably need _bernie for that |
16:17 |
dogi |
+1 |
16:18 |
silbe |
bernie is opposed to me changing the CNAMEs to automatically resolved A records. I still think the latter are a much better idea, but could be coerced to use CNAMEs instead. |
16:18 |
dogi |
is totally fine that |
16:18 |
silbe |
dogi: with what, exactly? |
16:18 |
dogi |
aslong _bernie agrees |
16:19 |
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silbe, i understand _bernie there too |
16:20 |
silbe |
dogi: so you basically leave the decision up to bernie and me? :) |
16:20 |
dogi |
can we agree you show us how to maintain this over screen? |
16:20 |
silbe |
dogi: sure |
16:20 |
dogi |
#action dogi silbe _bernie screen session ... dns |
16:21 |
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ping _bernie |
16:22 |
silbe |
just to make it clear: the CNAME change is mostly unrelated to the format change - it's just that before the format change it would have been to hard to implement the automatic resolving of aliases, so I did the CNAME change after the conversion. |
16:23 |
dogi |
i know but i would like to know how to maintain this and think bernie has similar concern |
16:24 |
silbe |
dogi: you mean tinydns-data format or aliases instead of CNAMEs? |
16:24 |
dogi |
yeah |
16:24 |
silbe |
lol |
16:24 |
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I like it when either-or questions are answered with yes ;) |
16:24 |
dogi |
#topic aslocamp @ rit |
16:25 |
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I need to get more information on these pieces of equipment and what they |
16:25 |
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support. Can you answer the questions below for me please. |
16:25 |
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1) Is this research project a Golisano College research project? |
16:25 |
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2) Who is in charge of this project? |
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3) Where is the equipment stored right now? |
16:25 |
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4) Who will need access to this equipment? |
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5) How long do you expect project to last? |
16:25 |
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6) What services are offered off from this server? |
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7) Who will administer this server? |
16:26 |
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8) Do they meet all of the Security office standards? |
16:26 |
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9) Are these 1U server blades? |
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10) Besides space, what other requirements do you have? Network connections? |
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Number of power outlets? Etc... |
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silbe can u help me there |
16:26 |
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cdeslandes, |
16:27 |
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this was in my mail today |
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6) also - http://activities.sugarlabs.org |
16:28 |
silbe |
dogi: probably not - most of these are administrative questions I have no idea about; dfarning might know. I know next to nothing about the physical part of the servers as well while you have seen and played with them. |
16:28 |
dogi |
#action dogi answer this form |
16:28 |
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Here are the standards they want you to meet... |
16:28 |
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The security standards are here: |
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http://security.rit.edu/standards/index.html |
16:28 |
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Please read: password standard, server security standard, web standard |
16:29 |
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#link http://security.rit.edu/standards/index.html |
16:29 |
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#info security request of RIT for aslo |
16:30 |
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#action treehousers read this for next week dicussion |
16:31 |
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other news for the moving to RIT plan in 10 days |
16:32 |
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adam for olpc/sugar would like to join as there with walter and stephen jacobs ... |
16:32 |
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Subject: Those 3 blades Im looking to rack somewhere |
16:32 |
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500 Watt power supply per machine, which |
16:32 |
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means they require 1,500 Watts of power total, which is about 12.5 |
16:32 |
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Amps |
16:32 |
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of power and about 5,250 BTUs of Thermal energy. |
16:33 |
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was smile - ing a lot here |
16:34 |
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#link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_thermal_unit |
16:34 |
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that was all for here |
16:35 |
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#action dogi djbclark hhardy unracking aslo at pika in 7-8 days? |
16:36 |
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#topic treehouse stability improvments |
16:37 |
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http://sunjammer.sugarlabs.org[…].org.html#Virtual |
16:37 |
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#link http://sunjammer.sugarlabs.org[…]irtual%20machines |
16:38 |
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as you see there had an other ping :) this time from aslo |
16:38 |
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Confirm the memory in there is correct and all the same. |
16:38 |
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Physically check what is in there versus what is required as far as ECC/non ECC particularly. |
16:38 |
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Make sure ECC memory is enabled in BIOS if that is what is required and physically in the box. |
16:38 |
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Check that BIOS version is current and correct |
16:38 |
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http://techreport.com/forums/v[…]c.php?f=7&t=69030 |
16:38 |
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http://www.x86-64.org/pipermai[…]thread.html#10584 |
16:39 |
silbe |
dogi: I hope the average power consumption is way below that - we'd need to sum up the data sheet values for all components to figure it out, though :-/ |
16:39 |
dogi |
this was hhardy s anwser |
16:39 |
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there is a 2 mounth old bios there |
16:40 |
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but his concerns but ECC |
16:40 |
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ups about |
16:40 |
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Looks like bad RAM; the cryptic messages are background checks of ECC |
16:40 |
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checksums (scrubbing) failing. I'd suggest running memtest86. |
16:41 |
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<- cjb s answer |
16:41 |
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+1 |
16:41 |
cjb |
yeah, hopefully memtest will tell you which stick is bad |
16:41 |
dogi |
the problem is more how to get to gnaps |
16:43 |
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silbe can you post a link with the picture i sended over mail? |
16:43 |
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djbclark, hhardy cjb _bernie which is the best way to get there ... |
16:44 |
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#link http://www.gnaps.com/ |
16:45 |
silbe |
dogi: you mean this one? http://sascha.silbe.org/tmp/tr[…]slo-web-crash.png |
16:45 |
dogi |
hopes djbclark tells him that I need only to go there and don t have to ask permission |
16:46 |
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thx silbe |
16:46 |
silbe |
that link isn't going to last long, though :) |
16:46 |
dogi |
then hope in the internet archives :) |
16:47 |
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silbe, 2 months? |
16:47 |
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more next week hopefully |
16:48 |
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#topic brainstorm how to enhance aslo |
16:48 |
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since also |
16:48 |
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#link http://activities.sugarlabs.org |
16:49 |
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for sugar-laptops (XO, soas) is like itunes for ipads ... |
16:50 |
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ups ipods |
16:51 |
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we should think about how to improve first service for end users |
16:51 |
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alsroot, ping |
16:52 |
alsroot |
dogi: yup |
16:52 |
dogi |
how can we connect something like ideatorrent to every activity page |
16:52 |
alsroot |
dogi: but should we? |
16:53 |
dogi |
think so ... |
16:53 |
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feedback is imporant |
16:53 |
alsroot |
dogi: the major issue is that ASLO is just downstream for AMO, so more ASLO hacking is going further from AMO |
16:53 |
dogi |
+t |
16:55 |
alsroot |
dogi: in fact I'm planing to make something like pure sugar interface to ASLO's db, it will be python activity so I can effectively hack it |
16:55 |
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thinks that deep AMO hacking is overkill for him |
16:56 |
dogi |
right now we get in the medium 6 clicks per user |
16:57 |
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... 8 from the meduim uruguar child per session |
16:58 |
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#link https://www.google.com/analyti[…]lts=1271797015668 |
16:58 |
alsroot |
dogi: I mean if we start integration process like ideatorrent integration, it will require deep AMO hacks |
16:58 |
dogi |
and yesterday we got 3 goal click in aslo |
16:59 |
alsroot |
or /me misunderstood dogi |
16:59 |
dogi |
alsroot, you should have access there |
16:59 |
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no i think it is only a little patch in a template somewhere ... |
17:00 |
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to add a link on the activit pages ... |
17:01 |
alsroot |
dogi: you mean just ideatorrent link on main page? |
17:02 |
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..in addition to " * Home |
17:02 |
dogi |
we should add there link to our specific wikipedia activity pages ... |
17:02 |
alsroot |
* Wiki |
17:02 |
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* Download |
17:02 |
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dogi: I've created aslo-design component on bugs.sl.o ans Josh is owner, he is the man who work on ASLO design |
17:04 |
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dogi: you can file a ticket, anyway I'm not the right person to change css/design stuff |
17:05 |
dogi |
likes the other improvement |
17:05 |
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#link http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers |
17:06 |
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alsroot, do you think we can get josh here sync in this meeting |
17:07 |
alsroot |
dogi: he is yoshu on #sugar but offline for now |
17:10 |
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dogi: btw we already have "Home page" link per activity, so activity uploaders can use it |
17:10 |
dogi |
and his email is? |
17:11 |
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you but sometimes homepage and wiki is not the same |
17:11 |
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chat for aslo? |
17:12 |
alsroot |
dogi: but having bunch of home page link also doesn't make sense |
17:12 |
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s/home page/ala home page/ |
17:12 |
dogi |
:) |
17:13 |
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+1 alsroot |
17:14 |
alsroot |
dogi: anyway all these pages should be maintained by someone.. |
17:15 |
dogi |
maintaining and enhancing are sometimes 2 things |
17:18 |
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the only other big enhancement for aslo would be sharing content |
17:19 |
alsroot |
dogi: well, my plan if doing it in pure sugar way.. |
17:19 |
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s/if/is/ |
17:19 |
dogi |
tell us more ... |
17:19 |
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is curious |
17:20 |
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is there already something to download ... |
17:20 |
alsroot |
dogi: it will be server/daemon who will look like regular sugar user for others, this bot will share Library activity instance, every sugar user can join it to see/share any objects |
17:21 |
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..and every sugar user can share Library instance for per-to-perr sharing as well |
17:21 |
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dogi: I'm working on it, it is not yet ready to test |
17:23 |
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dogi: the main reason for such scheme (for me) is that it is pure python activity, thus I can improve it more effectively then hacking AMO |
17:24 |
dogi |
shacks this non existing hut ... |
17:25 |
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do i understand you right in your system the content is peer to peer |
17:26 |
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and the server/daemon/ in sugar friend is doing it like a bitorrent system |
17:27 |
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sugar friends view |
17:29 |
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he has only the information where the content is ... |
17:29 |
alsroot |
dogi: not bitorrent, it will be regular server-client model (more over, such bot can provide access to ASLO's db) |
17:29 |
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..in case of bot |
17:30 |
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in case of regular users, it will be pure peer-to-peer |
17:31 |
dogi |
more cases hmm ok |
17:32 |
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thinks it is possible to create an http output there too |
17:33 |
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:P for streaming into the non sugar world ... |
17:33 |
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back to also |
17:33 |
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aslo ... |
17:36 |
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aslo streaming software news to identica/twitter ? |
17:36 |
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think that this is stupied |
17:36 |
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unfortunatly i m not sure |
17:36 |
alsroot |
thinks we just need someone who will implement this |
17:38 |
dogi |
hi lfaraone |
17:38 |
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alsroot, +1 |
17:39 |
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hi icarito |
17:39 |
lfaraone |
hey dogi |
17:40 |
dogi |
lfaraone, something new from rt? |
17:41 |
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ohter news? |
17:41 |
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ht = th |
17:42 |
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5min and the meeting is done ... |
17:43 |
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has to open the house door |
17:43 |
lfaraone |
dogi: ticket creation works, but not *public* ticket creation. |
17:48 |
dogi |
cause instead of idea we could attach rt to aslo |
17:49 |
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http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]/Getting_Involved |
17:49 |
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on this page there are to many private emails ... |
17:49 |
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they all should be in rt |
17:50 |
icarito |
hi im sorry |
17:50 |
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i could not make it |
17:50 |
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we are running here, few hands |
17:50 |
dogi |
icarito, no problem ... next week? |
17:50 |
icarito |
about somosazucar.org i can say I'm still working on it |
17:50 |
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ok i still promised to report to systems@ |
17:50 |
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i have good things to share about our indentica integration / strategy |
17:50 |
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will share on the list |
17:51 |
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next week then |
17:51 |
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thanks |
17:52 |
dogi |
would like you to share it here in the meeting too, ... but list already is fine ... |
17:53 |
icarito |
maybe next week i invite you to try and tour the site |
17:53 |
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:-) |
17:53 |
dogi |
silbe, lfaraone, do we have the mx entry rt.sl.o |
17:54 |
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icarito, :) bingo this is what i wanna have ... |
17:54 |
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#endmeeting |