Time |
Nick |
Message |
16:07 |
dogi__ |
#info Weekly Infrastructure meeting: |
16:07 |
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#info Volunteer Infrastructure Gang (http://olpcorps.org/ ), |
16:07 |
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#info Sugarlabs Infrastructure Team (http://sugarlabs.org/ ), |
16:07 |
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#info and TreeHousers (http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/ ) |
16:07 |
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#info Date: 2010-04-13 |
16:07 |
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#info Time: 20:00 UTC (16:00 EST, 22:00 CET) |
16:08 |
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#info Agenda: http://openetherpad.org/ogycAYFJtg |
16:08 |
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#info Location: #treehouse on irc.oftc.net |
16:08 |
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#link http://embed.mibbit.com/?serve[…]nnel=%23treehouse |
16:08 |
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#topic last meeting |
16:08 |
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#info Usefull Links: |
16:08 |
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#info LastAgenda: |
16:08 |
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#link http://openetherpad.org/tCl6T4lXnR |
16:08 |
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#info LastLog: |
16:08 |
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#link http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/tr[…]0100406_1606.html |
16:08 |
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#info LastMinutes: |
16:08 |
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#link http://me.etin.gs/treehouse/tr[…]0100406_1606.html |
16:08 |
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#info NextAgenda: |
16:08 |
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#link http://openetherpad.org/VEBg0R9bXZ |
16:08 |
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#info actioncheck |
16:08 |
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please post your done actions |
16:09 |
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#done dogi published an idea |
16:09 |
hhardy |
#done apache2, nmap, munin installed on monitoring |
16:09 |
dogi__ |
:) |
16:09 |
hhardy |
still needs to be configured to do anything useful |
16:10 |
dogi__ |
#done jelkner has organized students to fix servers in DC |
16:10 |
hhardy |
also I restarted the pootle vm last night cause it said it was running but was unpingable |
16:11 |
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seems to be working now |
16:11 |
dogi__ |
#topic agenda |
16:11 |
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#info * aslocamp @ RIT update (http://www.rit.edu/academicaff[…]tudentinnovation/ ) - wwdillingham/dfarning |
16:11 |
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#info * remote power control for ASLO RIT - hhardy/dogi |
16:11 |
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#info * git.sl.o and/or monkeyserver update - silbe |
16:11 |
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#info * update actividadesVM (http://activities.olpcorps.net/ ) - dfarning |
16:11 |
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#info * update monitoringVM (http://monitoring.sugarlabs.org/ ) - hhardy |
16:11 |
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#info * update schooltoolVM (http://schooltool.sugarlabs.org/ ) - replaceafill |
16:11 |
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#info * update rtVM/launchpadVM/DC-ExWikipediaServers (http://rt.sugarlabs.org ) |
16:11 |
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#info * update somosazucar on sunjammer (http://somosazucar.org ) - bernie/icarito |
16:11 |
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#info * homework for all treehousers |
16:11 |
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#info * access fairy |
16:11 |
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are there topics to add there? |
16:12 |
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dfarning and silbe are not here ... |
16:13 |
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#topic aslocamp @ RIT update |
16:13 |
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#link http://www.rit.edu/academicaff[…]tudentinnovation/ |
16:13 |
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#info dfarning will talk to prof stevens upgrade |
16:13 |
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#info wwdillingham speaks about new students |
16:13 |
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cdeslandes: I spoke with walter about |
16:14 |
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how to bring the server to RIT today |
16:14 |
hhardy |
I spoke with Adam about 1.5's for servers for India and he seemed to think that sounded ridiculous and Ed would not approve it |
16:15 |
dogi__ |
on thursday we will know the exact schedule ... so for the next meeting I should have more information there |
16:15 |
cdeslandes |
dogi__: ok |
16:15 |
dogi__ |
it is look like we are going first to toronto and on the way back to rochester |
16:16 |
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hhardy: thx ... it was a try |
16:16 |
hhardy |
he said maybe we could get 1.0's if the request came from someone in India... not from me |
16:16 |
dogi__ |
:) |
16:16 |
hhardy |
employees don't even have 1.5's yet they are very tight atm |
16:17 |
dogi__ |
wwdillingham: cdeslandes are there any other news regarding aslo @ RIT? |
16:17 |
cdeslandes |
dogi__: Not to my knowledge, wwdillingham may have more because here is closer to Prof. Jacobs |
16:18 |
_bernie |
appears |
16:18 |
dogi__ |
hi _bernie |
16:19 |
hhardy |
hello _bernie did claudia tell you "be seeing you" from më when she was down there? |
16:19 |
dogi__ |
_bernie: are you ready to speak about somosazucar? |
16:19 |
_bernie |
hhardy: no, but if she did. I would have understood! :-) |
16:19 |
hhardy |
haha |
16:19 |
_bernie |
dogi__: what's the matter with it? |
16:19 |
dogi__ |
#topic update somosazucar on sunjammer |
16:20 |
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#link http://somosazucar.org |
16:20 |
_bernie |
dogi__: icarito is managing it. I think he used wordpress |
16:20 |
dogi__ |
what was the things icarito and you did on sunjammer |
16:21 |
_bernie |
dogi__: I just created a directory and a group for him. he did the rest |
16:21 |
dogi__ |
is the new special wordpress installation working already? |
16:21 |
_bernie |
looks like somosazucar is hosting a nice website now :-) |
16:22 |
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dogi__: I really don't know any details, I just delegated everything to icarito |
16:22 |
dogi__ |
ok ... somebody maybe should tell icarito that we would like to know about the upgrade there |
16:22 |
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next topic? |
16:23 |
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schooltool? |
16:24 |
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_bernie: by the way treehouse was taken over by pootleVM ... |
16:24 |
_bernie |
dogi__: yeah, what happened? |
16:24 |
dogi__ |
#topic pootle takes over treehouse |
16:25 |
_bernie |
dogi__: I was very busy yesterday and I did not get back to unmadindu's request to fix pootle |
16:25 |
dogi__ |
#link http://translate.sugarlabs.org |
16:25 |
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#info problem with VM |
16:25 |
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#link http://sunjammer.sugarlabs.org[…].org-libvirt.html |
16:25 |
_bernie |
hhardy: do you know what went wrong? how did you fix the issue? |
16:25 |
hhardy |
I do not know what went wrong |
16:26 |
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unmanindu said it was not pingable |
16:26 |
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*unmadindu |
16:26 |
dogi__ |
the VM was not reacting anymore |
16:26 |
hhardy |
So I looked via virsh and vish seemed to think it was running |
16:26 |
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so I tried reboot but that is not supported |
16:27 |
_bernie |
were the other VMs also affected by pootle going wild? |
16:27 |
hhardy |
then I thought I should make a backup image before I fooled with it any more so i did |
16:27 |
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then I did a shutdown and restart and it worked |
16:27 |
_bernie |
hhardy: yeah, I dunno why we can't reboot VMs from virsh. maybe acpi is missing |
16:27 |
dogi__ |
hmm a little bit ... the load .... |
16:27 |
hhardy |
that was at 03:41 am local US Eastern time |
16:28 |
_bernie |
hhardy: probably the pootle process leaked memory until it made the vm swap to death |
16:28 |
dogi__ |
#action unmadindu/dogi investigating on the pootleVM issue |
16:28 |
|
+1 _bernie |
16:28 |
_bernie |
hhardy: it used to do this in the past and we used pam limits to keep the process within 2GB or so |
16:28 |
hhardy |
well top says the vms are taking a total of 241% of CPU right now on treehouse |
16:29 |
dogi__ |
would like to jump to the next topic ... replaceafill ? |
16:29 |
replaceafill |
ok |
16:29 |
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i created a frontpage for the schooltool.sugarlabs.org vm |
16:29 |
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it's ugly |
16:30 |
dogi__ |
#topic update schooltoolVM |
16:30 |
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#info the new home of sugar schooltool intergration |
16:30 |
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#link http://schooltool.sugarlabs.org/ |
16:30 |
replaceafill |
my goal was that people involved in the project knew a little more details |
16:30 |
dogi__ |
replaceafill: the page looks nice ... |
16:30 |
_bernie |
likes it |
16:30 |
replaceafill |
also, tomorrow |
16:31 |
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i'm meeting with the first school |
16:31 |
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i've loaded their data already |
16:31 |
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and they're going to see schooltool for the first time |
16:31 |
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im going to show all the features |
16:31 |
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so they can select which one to use |
16:31 |
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they are going to access the VM from the school |
16:32 |
_bernie |
replaceafill: anything else we can do to help, just let us know |
16:32 |
replaceafill |
dogi__, so i should put the demo instance back as the frontpage, correct? |
16:32 |
dogi__ |
for me the only thing which I would like to see there is sugar colored demo/exploring site for schooltool ... |
16:32 |
replaceafill |
_bernie, thanks! |
16:32 |
_bernie |
replaceafill: eventually, you might want to start a Local Lab |
16:32 |
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#link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs |
16:33 |
dogi__ |
+1 _bernie |
16:33 |
replaceafill |
ah |
16:33 |
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yes, im taking sugar on a stick too :) |
16:33 |
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to demo it |
16:34 |
|
dogi__, we need a custom skin for schooltool then |
16:34 |
jelkner |
the IT guy at one of the schools is a free software activist |
16:34 |
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who is also interested in sugar |
16:34 |
replaceafill |
he's interested in any free software for children :D |
16:34 |
jelkner |
we will work that connection when it makes sense |
16:35 |
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but we can't promise that all of our pilot schools will be interested |
16:35 |
dogi__ |
jelkner: hi |
16:35 |
jelkner |
i was wondering |
16:36 |
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should we be trying to request another XO deployment at one of the schools? |
16:37 |
|
we wrote a successful XO deployment grant for a community in El Salvador already |
16:37 |
dogi__ |
jelkner: replaceafill is there already some sugar deployment there |
16:37 |
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ok |
16:37 |
replaceafill |
yes |
16:37 |
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a small one by us (30 XOs) |
16:37 |
dogi__ |
cool |
16:37 |
replaceafill |
and the goverment has started their own too |
16:37 |
jelkner |
in a community, not a school |
16:38 |
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the government deployments are in schools, i think... right, replaceafill? |
16:38 |
replaceafill |
news about the government's deployment: http://www.nombredejesus.gob.s[…]ticias.php?id=111 |
16:38 |
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yes |
16:38 |
dogi__ |
#link http://www.nombredejesus.gob.s[…]ticias.php?id=111 |
16:38 |
replaceafill |
it's through the ministry of education |
16:39 |
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jelkner usually writes news about our deployment in his blog |
16:39 |
lfaraone |
waves at the world. |
16:39 |
jelkner |
so we will definitely be looking for synergy between these projects |
16:39 |
dogi__ |
+1 jelkner |
16:39 |
jelkner |
but i wanted to be clear that getting the schooltool pilot going is priority #1 for us now |
16:40 |
dogi__ |
sure :) |
16:40 |
replaceafill |
dogi__ http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]2157622718757582/ |
16:41 |
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the kids from the community being trained by a local university |
16:41 |
jelkner |
i know you know, dogi_, but since you're all sugar folks, i thought i should say that ;-) |
16:42 |
hhardy |
q |
16:42 |
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oops |
16:42 |
dogi__ |
next topic? |
16:43 |
|
lfaraone: or hhardy who wants first? |
16:43 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: can go ahead. |
16:43 |
dogi__ |
hhardy: ok? |
16:43 |
hhardy |
ok |
16:43 |
|
monitoring |
16:43 |
dogi__ |
#topic update monitoringVM |
16:43 |
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#info the new home of munin |
16:43 |
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#link http://monitoring.sugarlabs.org/ |
16:44 |
hhardy |
I have installed apache2, munin, w3m, nmap |
16:44 |
|
munin is running but needs the configuration file written |
16:44 |
dogi__ |
#info munin |
16:44 |
hhardy |
also clients need to be installed |
16:44 |
dogi__ |
#link http://monitoring.sugarlabs.org/munin/ |
16:44 |
hhardy |
next I am installing nessus |
16:45 |
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so I can scan all the stuff we are to monitor and know what is there |
16:45 |
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from looking at virst I have a list of vms for housetree now |
16:45 |
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I will do the same on treehouse |
16:45 |
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then scan them all |
16:45 |
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from that I will construct the list of what needs to be monitored |
16:46 |
|
munin cacti nagios and big sister is what I propose to put there |
16:46 |
dogi__ |
hhardy: first please only treehouse and housetree |
16:46 |
hhardy |
possibly other things to experiment |
16:46 |
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not the vms? ok |
16:47 |
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we will eventually want to do them too so we know for instance when pootle dies horribly |
16:47 |
dogi__ |
no for the first step only the main machines |
16:47 |
hhardy |
I will do just the main machines 1st then the vms |
16:48 |
dogi__ |
bingo :) |
16:48 |
hhardy |
that is all I have to report for now |
16:48 |
dogi__ |
thx hhardy |
16:48 |
hhardy |
unless there is questions/suggestions/comments |
16:48 |
|
yw |
16:48 |
dogi__ |
#topic update rtVM |
16:49 |
lfaraone |
Basically, we got RT running, and I think email in works too. |
16:49 |
dogi__ |
#info request tracer of sugarlabs ... |
16:49 |
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#link http://rt.sugarlabs.org |
16:49 |
lfaraone |
Before we deploy it, I want to figure out what the current RAM issues are; whenever I access a dynamic page it starts swapping out. |
16:49 |
dogi__ |
hmm |
16:51 |
|
#link http://rt.sugarlabs.org/rt |
16:52 |
lfaraone |
seems to be working now, but it's running at 50mb free. |
16:53 |
dogi__ |
#action sysadmins +1GB ram for RT |
16:53 |
|
hope this is ok ... hhardy _bernie |
16:55 |
hhardy |
should be enough |
16:56 |
dogi__ |
how big is rt.laptop.org |
16:56 |
hhardy |
hmmmm what lfaraone said doesn't sound good tho |
16:56 |
|
try increasing the ram and see if it is happy then |
16:57 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: works now. no idea how it's using 1GB of ram right now, though. /me looks at the ps table. |
16:57 |
hhardy |
that seems like it needs some investigation before it is deplyed as you said |
16:57 |
dogi__ |
by the way lfaraone good job |
16:58 |
|
is there a way to register yourself there without asking somebody else |
16:59 |
|
lfaraone: ? |
17:00 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: no. |
17:00 |
|
dogi__: you however can interface by email without an account. |
17:00 |
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dogi__: but we could use something like http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/SelfService |
17:02 |
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hhardy: re memory usage, four idle apache apache processes are using 385m, 323m, 199m, and 177m. |
17:03 |
dogi__ |
selfservice ... |
17:03 |
hhardy |
on the rt? |
17:03 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: yes. |
17:04 |
hhardy |
argh plus put my pub key up there and give me root |
17:04 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: example of what it looks like on OLPC: rt.laptop.org/SelfService |
17:04 |
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hhardy: uh, where can I find that? |
17:04 |
hhardy |
I have a new pub key that isn't published |
17:04 |
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I will copy it for you |
17:05 |
dogi__ |
lfaraone: does laptop.org using selfservice ? |
17:05 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: it has it , they don't use it :) |
17:05 |
hhardy |
ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA3u63JXryvrAEgGtyFVKNW9si5yIW111KBc3/lmIxQUHh2PioQKpxciptPNQuOU52FesLKuUffWsZT4aykvQ1BUafNnezNGyUzXc0H+eaFgQz3rwt9dVuVusgqOvyp7Uwzqeuz8cHO11pElwh9kStyj0fjx/WpeDgi1CTULlcKtky2lot0jLMcqKkmGGSOvq6f/QeK/2DiZpwz3iDAQkc2+8BPC9So50mSIhfemIN0JKJ0EE8LlqvNacwyT8hQ/w5pncAtGCt+tWmY0jsCXY8fD4Jlm38Hf425ekwoejcsamJTbNBCXkh3xXC+ttA87gPpImHRLx0hm5WquPRv717BQ== hhardy thinker |
17:06 |
dogi__ |
hmm |
17:06 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: can you put that in your home directory on crank or sunjammer? |
17:06 |
hhardy |
no I don't have access to either of those machines at present |
17:06 |
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I will email it to you |
17:07 |
dogi__ |
hhardy: I will help you with the access problem on all the other VMs in the second step anyway ... |
17:08 |
hhardy |
ffm sugarlabs? |
17:08 |
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sent |
17:09 |
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ok |
17:09 |
|
dogi: ok |
17:09 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: luke sl.o :) |
17:09 |
hhardy |
ffm sugarlabs doesn't exist |
17:09 |
|
ok |
17:10 |
dogi__ |
lfaraone: can you setup an treehouse sugarlabs.org rt queue and give to hhardy silbe _bernie and me access to rt? |
17:11 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: sure, once I get email working. I'll gpgcrypt you all authentication. |
17:11 |
dogi__ |
ups forgot |
17:12 |
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lfaraone: are there other rt queue s we would like to set up |
17:13 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: done. |
17:13 |
hhardy |
lfaraone: thx |
17:14 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: right now we have accounts, gitmaster, hostmaster, emmbers, planetmaster, sysadmin, webmaster. |
17:14 |
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*members |
17:14 |
dogi__ |
hmmm |
17:15 |
hhardy |
there should be individual accounts not role accounts |
17:15 |
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or oh those are the queues? |
17:16 |
|
hmmmm |
17:16 |
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separating sysadmin and webmaster is kind of arbitrary |
17:16 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: queues. |
17:17 |
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hhardy: webmaster are things related to WWW, sysadmin is catchall for everything else. |
17:17 |
hhardy |
right but if apache2 is using too much memory, where does that go? |
17:17 |
dogi__ |
ok that are the accounts we could migrate ... but lets first set up treehouse sugarlabs.org and/or discuss the next time when RT is fully working the rest |
17:18 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: those queues have already been set up :) |
17:18 |
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dogi__: what's the difference between sysadmin and treehouse? |
17:18 |
dogi__ |
ahh now I get you |
17:19 |
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lfaraone: think we want first to test and modify rt |
17:20 |
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and treehouse would be exactly a testmailqueue for RT |
17:20 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: are the MX records for RT pointing to rt.sl.o? |
17:20 |
dogi__ |
good point |
17:21 |
hhardy |
;; ANSWER SECTION: |
17:21 |
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rt.sugarlabs.org. 17214 IN A 140.186.70.125 |
17:21 |
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just A |
17:21 |
dogi__ |
#action dogi set up MX for RT |
17:22 |
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so we could use sysadmin rt.sugarlabs.org for testing |
17:23 |
hhardy |
apparently openvas is now preferred to nessus for its GPL-ness so I will try that for scanner |
17:23 |
dogi__ |
+1 hhardy |
17:24 |
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lfaraone: is there something new about launchpad? |
17:27 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: no. I've lost motivation to continue to work on it, it's really really difficult to configure for our usage :) |
17:27 |
dogi__ |
hmm |
17:27 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: hm. I'm hassling with rt-mailgate right now, it's giving me 403 errors. " /usr/bin/rt-mailgate --queue 'sysadmin' --action correspond --url http://rt.sugarlabs.org/rt/". |
17:28 |
dogi__ |
lfaraone: ok |
17:28 |
|
:P |
17:28 |
hhardy |
yeah I remember mailgate as being a pain to set up but I don't remember specifics atm |
17:29 |
dogi__ |
lfaraone: by the way are there some news about the rack in your friends colo? |
17:30 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: no, he asked his boss, she said she'd have to ask somebody else. |
17:31 |
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dogi__: and neuralis said that new parts for his server (which he'd let us use) are coming in next week, but they did' |
17:31 |
hhardy |
lfaraone: the best place to get help with rt as I remember is #rt on irc.perl.org |
17:31 |
lfaraone |
*didn't arrive. |
17:31 |
hhardy |
also to ask adric |
17:32 |
dogi__ |
has one not working wikipedia server (for replacements parts) and a working 4gb dell server in jelkner place wating for you |
17:32 |
hhardy |
I apparently forgot my passphrase for my old key on olpc so I can't just go look at the rt config there |
17:33 |
lfaraone |
oh, aha! I should send to localhost rather than rt.sl.o, since by default we only accept RT mail from localhost. |
17:33 |
hhardy |
yes |
17:34 |
dogi__ |
lfaraone: is there something else we should think about ... |
17:36 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: spam? :) |
17:37 |
dogi__ |
#topic homework for every treehouser |
17:37 |
|
#info "Solve an action per week" |
17:37 |
|
#info is the main ritual in #treehouse channel |
17:37 |
|
#info by doing so you get the right to vote ... |
17:37 |
|
#action treehouser since an idea as action for getting vote right |
17:37 |
|
#link http://idea.sugarlabs.org |
17:37 |
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#info 3 new ideas since last week |
17:38 |
|
#topic discussion spam .... |
17:39 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: for RT, we can just do what Debian does and say "mention Sugar Labs RT" somewhere in your email body) |
17:39 |
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#link http://wiki.debian.org/rt.debian.org#MailAccess |
17:40 |
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hhardy: hm. I now have mailgate working but sending incoming email fails... |
17:41 |
hhardy |
sending incoming email? |
17:41 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: an email to sysadmin at rt sl o |
17:42 |
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hhardy: this is where my fu is weak, I don't understand postfix, but I get SMTP 550 when I attempt to send. |
17:42 |
dogi__ |
lfaraone: did you wanted to speak only about spam and rt? ... not spam in general ... sorry |
17:42 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: general spam we're not seing too much of afaict. |
17:43 |
dogi__ |
thinking right now: let s first get that RT thing running ... |
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+ is |
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has to go soon ... |
17:44 |
hhardy |
do you have the entry for /etc/aliases so that mail gets processed through rt-mailgate? |
17:44 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: yes. |
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hhardy: http://sprunge.us/dHWU |
17:45 |
hhardy |
you have |
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rt: "|/opt/rt3/bin/rt-mailgate --queue general --action correspond --url http://localhost/rt" |
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rt-comment: "|/opt/rt3/bin/rt-mailgate --queue general --action comment --url http://localhost/rt" |
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? |
17:46 |
lfaraone |
hhardy: see the URL, yes. |
17:46 |
hhardy |
and you did newaliases |
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? |
17:46 |
lfaraone |
oops. |
17:46 |
hhardy |
aha |
17:46 |
lfaraone |
there we go :) |
17:47 |
hhardy |
yay |
17:47 |
dogi__ |
lfaraone: for the debian style RT antispam solution think it is a good one for debian but in the moment not for sugarlabs |
17:47 |
hhardy |
spamassassin? |
17:47 |
lfaraone |
dogi__: alternatives are A) never speak the address aloud and hope nobody discovers it, B) steal OLPC's bermuda, C) what hhardy said. |
17:48 |
dogi__ |
+1 lfaraone |
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likes B) |
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hhardy |
ciao |
17:51 |
dogi__ |
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#endmeeting |
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dogi_ |
#endmeeting |