Time |
Nick |
Message |
15:46 |
dogi |
#topic agenda |
15:48 |
silbe |
shouldn't the topic channel be the name of the (group running the) meeting? |
15:48 |
dogi |
* Previous meeting round-up |
15:48 |
silbe |
"topic channel".reverse() |
15:49 |
dogi |
2 Reports from running VMs, improvments and fixes onto them |
15:49 |
|
* create meeting2 VM for upgrade to new meetbot release |
15:49 |
|
* vig/wiki-devel turn on VM again |
15:49 |
|
* pootle-devel statusupgrade sayamindu |
15:49 |
|
* ehterpad-devel statusupgrade cjb |
15:49 |
|
* aslo statusupgrade dfarning |
15:49 |
|
* maps/mapspress statusupgrade jasonwoof/dogi |
15:49 |
|
* create muninVM henry |
15:49 |
|
* turn on wwwsj2 sj? |
15:49 |
|
* one upgrade dogi |
15:50 |
|
* turn on ideatorrent dogi |
15:50 |
|
3. Open discussion - <your topic here> |
15:51 |
|
please add if you want :) |
15:52 |
|
meeting will officially start in 9min |
15:54 |
|
#link http://etherpad.com/SOeopvCZRu |
15:55 |
|
<- list of machines managed by #treehouse |
15:55 |
silbe |
what's that link? i only see a bunch of different error messages (that shouldn't occur all at once) |
15:56 |
dogi |
javascript? |
15:57 |
silbe |
oh, javascript only? is there anything on that page that wasn't in the mail? in that case i'd fire up conkeror inside rainbow... |
15:58 |
dogi |
lol |
15:59 |
|
no silbe this is only the first version of a list of machine managed by #treehouse |
16:00 |
|
tihnk bernie will add more there |
16:01 |
silbe |
ok, saved the startup time :) |
16:01 |
dogi |
ping _bernie djbclark JasonWoof treehouse |
16:02 |
treehouse |
mom |
16:02 |
|
* new hardware mail |
16:02 |
|
** lfarone |
16:03 |
|
** berine |
16:03 |
silbe |
i'm getting confused, who is treehouse (thought it's a bot)? |
16:03 |
JasonWoof |
pong |
16:03 |
dogi |
hi JasonWoof |
16:03 |
JasonWoof |
hi |
16:04 |
dogi |
#topic meeting round-up |
16:04 |
|
silbe yes treehouse is a bot |
16:05 |
silbe |
what does it do? |
16:05 |
dogi |
using mibbit |
16:05 |
_bernie |
dogi: oops |
16:05 |
|
dogi: here I am |
16:05 |
dogi |
automated search an d invite |
16:05 |
|
and remember |
16:06 |
|
i hope he will do the agenda too |
16:06 |
|
hi _bernie |
16:06 |
|
First question |
16:06 |
|
what is #treehouse |
16:07 |
_bernie |
you're asking me? |
16:07 |
dogi |
right now treehouse is a group of VM which are running on some server and theren maintainer |
16:08 |
|
ups |
16:08 |
|
and the maintainer of this servers |
16:08 |
|
_bernie, u can say this better |
16:09 |
JasonWoof |
there's one server? |
16:09 |
dogi |
that #treehouse is a revial of me.etin.gs/olpc-admin/ |
16:09 |
|
no 3 |
16:09 |
JasonWoof |
who owns them? |
16:10 |
dogi |
treehouse and housetree and dextra |
16:10 |
|
nobody (or treehouse) |
16:10 |
silbe |
what about sunjammer and bender? |
16:10 |
JasonWoof |
where are they / who hosts them? |
16:10 |
dogi |
maybe sugar will join us |
16:11 |
|
but thats up to bernie |
16:11 |
|
some is hosted by FSF and the other by MIT |
16:12 |
|
next to sunjammer and solarsail |
16:12 |
|
half of them is designated to be space for sugar |
16:13 |
|
_bernie, will u say some words |
16:15 |
_bernie |
awakens |
16:15 |
dogi |
the main purpose is that they are services for children |
16:15 |
_bernie |
yeah, treehouse is hosted by the fsf in the quincy collocation facility |
16:16 |
|
it's stitting just above sunjammer |
16:16 |
dogi |
and in MIT left of solarsail |
16:16 |
_bernie |
treehouse is a 2U box built with commodity hardware, but it has plenty of RAM (64GB) and bandwidth |
16:17 |
|
the OS is ubuntu karmic |
16:17 |
dogi |
what i personally want to do is restart the weekly meeting of VIG here in #treehouse |
16:19 |
_bernie |
dogi: I would prefer to keep using #sugar-meeting rather than creating a new channel on oftc, but if you think it's too sugar-specific, I'll understand. |
16:19 |
dogi |
for improving services used by sugarlabs.org and/or laptop.org |
16:20 |
_bernie |
dogi: as long as you run regular meetings, that's also very useful for the sugar labs infrateam |
16:20 |
dogi |
i understand u that u like to use the main channel bernie |
16:20 |
|
jupp |
16:21 |
|
so can we add solarsail and sunjammer to the list of maintained machines? |
16:21 |
_bernie |
dogi: sure, but where is this list being kept? |
16:22 |
dogi |
good question |
16:22 |
_bernie |
dogi: while I have no preference for where we do meetings, I feel strongly that we should keep all server information in the main wiki |
16:22 |
dogi |
ok |
16:23 |
|
but if some overview list points to this like a sidemap ur are fine with that |
16:25 |
|
silbe, JasonWoof djbclark questions |
16:25 |
|
??? |
16:25 |
|
#topic meeting-devel for new meetbot |
16:26 |
|
thats something i will start |
16:26 |
|
meeting.sugarlabs.org is using the old eggdrop version |
16:27 |
|
which is to migrate to the new version of supybot |
16:27 |
|
_bernie, will setup a VM on treehouse for that |
16:28 |
|
the question is which ip |
16:28 |
|
http://meeting.olpcorps.net/ |
16:29 |
|
http://meeting.olpcorps.net/ |
16:31 |
|
http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot |
16:31 |
|
how is next |
16:31 |
|
#topic also |
16:32 |
|
since dfarning is not here |
16:32 |
|
i will speak again |
16:33 |
|
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/ |
16:33 |
|
are hosted by sunjammer |
16:34 |
|
dfarnings plan was to split this service into VMs |
16:34 |
JasonWoof |
is that running the mozilla plugins website software? |
16:34 |
djbclark |
dogi: not for now; probably next time. |
16:34 |
dogi |
djbclark, thx |
16:35 |
|
JasonWoof, ye |
16:35 |
|
s |
16:35 |
|
this service was there for some days but then cause of some now solved problems |
16:36 |
|
sunjammer was turned on again |
16:36 |
|
and in the migration from treehouse to housetree we doubled them |
16:37 |
|
but there is missing a person to push/supervise to turn them on again |
16:38 |
|
#action send mail dfarning |
16:38 |
|
who wants to do this? |
16:39 |
|
#topic oneVM |
16:40 |
|
#link http://olpcorps.org |
16:41 |
|
needs to be turned on again |
16:41 |
|
#action dogi: fix oneVM |
16:41 |
|
#topic ideaVM |
16:42 |
|
walter asked to turn idea on again |
16:42 |
|
#action dogi turn IdeaVM on |
16:42 |
|
#topic etherpad |
16:43 |
|
hope cjb will join next meeting |
16:43 |
|
#link etherpad.com |
16:44 |
|
#topic maps/mapspressVM |
16:44 |
|
mapspress is an Wordpress with Googlemaps features |
16:44 |
|
mapspress.olpcorps.net |
16:45 |
|
#topic pootle-devel |
16:46 |
|
was created last week by bernie |
16:46 |
|
to setup the next generation of pootle |
16:46 |
|
hope to have more next week |
16:47 |
|
#topic lightwaveVM |
16:47 |
|
ping _bernie |
16:49 |
silbe |
re. pootle, it would be nice if the "next gen" server could build the .pot's itself so they don't need to be in the repository |
16:49 |
|
the current situation is causing quite some trouble |
16:50 |
dogi |
silbe, thats why dfarnings plan ... not bad |
16:51 |
silbe |
sorry, come again? |
16:51 |
dogi |
and pootle the same |
16:51 |
|
both service sometime cause trouble |
16:52 |
_bernie |
is back |
16:52 |
silbe |
dogi: it's not the service itself that causes trouble, just the (apparent) requirement to keep the .pot in the git repository, even though it's a build product |
16:52 |
dogi |
ahh |
16:52 |
_bernie |
sayamindu thinks that the new pootle will be more reliable |
16:52 |
dogi |
and this is the goal |
16:52 |
_bernie |
and the old one has been working fine for a while now |
16:53 |
dogi |
+1 |
16:53 |
_bernie |
I agree that we need someone to champion aslo's clustering |
16:53 |
|
unfortunately, dfarning and I had a big disagreement on it |
16:53 |
dogi |
maybe |
16:54 |
|
we solve this now ... |
16:54 |
_bernie |
due to this, dfarning does not seem interested in helping with aslo any more |
16:54 |
dogi |
dfarning we miss u ... :P |
16:54 |
|
but back to lightwave |
16:54 |
_bernie |
I do miss him enormously even though I was uneasy regarding his approach for scaling aslo |
16:55 |
silbe |
_bernie: +1 |
16:55 |
dogi |
:) |
16:55 |
|
bernie what is lightwave? |
16:55 |
_bernie |
I'll talk with alsroot and ask him if he'd like to take that job. I also asked a few more people, but it's not an easy task that anyone can do |
16:56 |
|
aslo is by itself a complex service, let alone clustered on 3 or 4 different machines |
16:56 |
dogi |
ohh my error should have invited alsroot |
16:56 |
_bernie |
dogi: for now, it's just our master dns server |
16:56 |
silbe |
if alsroot volunteers he should get some help from someone experienced with large-scale setups (i.e. not me either) |
16:56 |
dogi |
:) |
16:56 |
_bernie |
dogi: as we grow confidence, we may move our ldap server there |
16:56 |
dogi |
+1 |
16:56 |
_bernie |
silbe: come on, I could trust you blindly on this |
16:57 |
|
silbe: you juggle VMs and networking with one hand tied behind the back |
16:57 |
silbe |
_bernie: thanks for the flattering :) |
16:57 |
_bernie |
well deserved |
16:59 |
dogi |
last topic |
16:59 |
|
#topic create muninVM hhardy |
17:00 |
|
hope to have hhardy next time here |
17:00 |
_bernie |
dogi: I'm sure more people will join in as they get accustomed to the routine |
17:00 |
dogi |
#topic new hardware |
17:01 |
|
hopes the same |
17:01 |
_bernie |
dogi: and, if we were using an existing channel (hint, hint), it would be even easier :-) |
17:01 |
dogi |
lol |
17:01 |
|
i m so shy |
17:01 |
|
sorry |
17:02 |
|
Would SL want these? They're pretty snazzy. |
17:02 |
|
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/[…]ation-time-again/ |
17:02 |
|
Dual CPU 2.5 GHz AMD |
17:02 |
|
3-4GB RAM Each |
17:02 |
|
Most have 80 GB or larger HDD |
17:02 |
|
sure we want them |
17:03 |
|
fromLuke Faraone <luke faraone.cc> |
17:03 |
|
toSugar Labs Systems <systems lists.sugarlabs.org> |
17:03 |
|
dateTue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:27 PM |
17:03 |
|
subject[Systems] Fwd: Wikimedia Server donation to Sugar Labs |
17:04 |
|
i think 12 of them for RIT? would be fine? |
17:04 |
silbe |
sounds like they'll need some (mains) power, but recent enough to be useful to us |
17:05 |
dogi |
bernie? |
17:06 |
silbe |
i guess the main question is: who would host them (physically)? |
17:06 |
dogi |
yupp |
17:06 |
silbe |
a set of them would be much better suited for aslo scaling tests than VMs |
17:09 |
dogi |
RIT? bernie? |
17:10 |
silbe |
how soon do we have to say yay or nay? |
17:10 |
dogi |
+1 |
17:10 |
_bernie |
dogi: back |
17:11 |
|
ok, we should get hold of luke and talk about this |
17:11 |
|
also, the rit people said it was ok to install 1 machine |
17:11 |
|
not a dozen :-) |
17:11 |
|
we'd have to check with them |
17:12 |
|
silbe: do you have a copy of luke's email? |
17:12 |
silbe |
_bernie: do you think they'd be ok to hold onto them until we've decided on where to put the remainder? |
17:13 |
|
or would they feel like a recycling center? |
17:13 |
dogi |
hosting is the problem |
17:13 |
silbe |
_bernie: right in front of me |
17:13 |
dogi |
so what do we tell lfaraone |
17:14 |
_bernie |
silbe: besides rit, there's transworldix |
17:14 |
silbe |
_bernie: -v? |
17:14 |
dogi |
in my opinion we should send some to the DC colo we asked some time ago |
17:14 |
|
bingo |
17:14 |
silbe |
DC colo? |
17:15 |
dogi |
jupp |
17:15 |
_bernie |
I can't remember the specs, but they seemed... unimpressive to me |
17:15 |
|
checks |
17:15 |
dogi |
the other half i would like to have in boston |
17:15 |
silbe |
_bernie: they're not great (esp. w.r.t. HD), but OK |
17:15 |
dogi |
lol bernie |
17:16 |
|
they are amds |
17:17 |
|
+1 |
17:17 |
silbe |
64bit? SVM? free DIMM slots? |
17:17 |
dogi |
jupp this are the open questions |
17:17 |
_bernie |
silbe: amd are almost certainly 64bit |
17:18 |
|
silbe: at 2.5ghz, I'd also expect them to have virtualization stuff |
17:18 |
silbe |
ok, that's a start |
17:18 |
_bernie |
silbe: but if they don't we won't die: these are small machines, it makes no sense to virtualize them |
17:18 |
dogi |
lol |
17:19 |
silbe |
hey, my fastest machine is slower than that! :-P |
17:20 |
dogi |
so send half to boston half to DC |
17:20 |
silbe |
what's in DC? |
17:21 |
dogi |
lfaraone and transworldix |
17:21 |
silbe |
this one? http://www.transworldix.net/ |
17:21 |
dogi |
and in boston there is bernie and dogi and next to bos the RIT |
17:24 |
|
#action bernie think about this 12 server from |
17:24 |
|
wm |
17:24 |
|
#topic open dicussion |
17:25 |
|
#topic open discussion |
17:25 |
|
ping _bernie djbclark JasonWoof silbe |
17:25 |
silbe |
someone want to set up bcfg2 for our buildslaves? :) |
17:26 |
dogi |
what is bcfg2? |
17:26 |
silbe |
do you know cfengine or puppet? some kind of tool. |
17:27 |
_bernie |
pong |
17:27 |
dogi |
puppet |
17:27 |
|
yes some friend of me use that a lot |
17:27 |
_bernie |
silbe: I have no time, but I'd appreciate if someone (you you!) did it |
17:28 |
|
silbe: the fsf also is using puppet |
17:28 |
|
they're starting to |
17:28 |
silbe |
_bernie: the problem is that i don't have time either. i shouldn't even be at this meeting as i'm far behind on my thesis... |
17:29 |
dogi |
hui |
17:29 |
|
#endmeeting |