| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 09:13 |
mchua |
pbrobinson, sdziallas: I got an email from a teacher who wants to try a SoaS pilot, will forward her to the SoaS list... any other way we want to handle folks who want to test? |
| 09:13 |
|
wants to make sure we set expectations early |
| 09:15 |
sdziallas |
mchua: I think handling them on a case by case basis on-list sounds sane, no? |
| 09:15 |
mchua |
sdziallas: Yeah, I want to make sure she either has local support or wants to wrangle Linux stuff |
| 09:16 |
sdziallas |
nods. yeah, right. |
| 09:16 |
|
or both. :) but yeah, you're right. |
| 09:20 |
mchua |
kis: so, we need to figure out how to resize sugar-emulator, or make it run smaller. |
| 09:20 |
|
Problem: netbook screens are not big enough :) |
| 09:21 |
kis |
that's right. |
| 09:21 |
mchua |
sdziallas: ^ do you know off the top of your head how that works? |
| 09:21 |
|
hits up teh googlez |
| 09:21 |
sdziallas |
mchua: hang on, I think I do. |
| 09:21 |
|
mchua, kis: yes. |
| 09:21 |
mchua |
http://www.google.com/search?q=sugar-emulator uses xephyr, so it's resizing xephyr... |
| 09:21 |
sdziallas |
type 'sugar-emulator --help' in a terminal. :) |
| 09:21 |
mchua |
continues to frantically google in an attempt to beat sdziallas to the an-DARN |
| 09:21 |
sdziallas |
(hint: you want -i) |
| 09:22 |
|
mchua: :) |
| 09:22 |
mchua |
darn you, command-line help options! |
| 09:22 |
|
kis: does it work? |
| 09:22 |
satellit__ |
* I have to make the panels properties show hide buttons and retract top and bottom panels to see most of it |
| 09:23 |
kis |
is trying it |
| 09:23 |
satellit__ |
on 10" ACER Aspire One |
| 09:25 |
kis |
mchua, sdziallas: yes, that worked. Thanks! |
| 09:25 |
sdziallas |
kis: awesome! :) |
| 09:26 |
satellit__ |
is that in wiki...easily found ? |
| 09:26 |
kwurst |
kis: What did you type to make it work? |
| 09:30 |
mchua |
satellit__: If not, it should be somewhere. |
| 09:31 |
satellit__ |
+1 |
| 09:31 |
|
*it is a common problem. |
| 09:31 |
mchua |
sdziallas, pbrobinson: teacher email reply sent to soas list. At some point I'll pile through the rest of my email and bring up other convo threads. |
| 09:32 |
|
satellit__: try and find the place you think it ought to be, then put it there :) |
| 09:32 |
sdziallas |
mchua: cool! |
| 09:32 |
|
satellit__: I might recommend The Undiscoverable, but that's just me. :) |
| 09:32 |
satellit__ |
mchua: what was the fix exactly? |
| 09:33 |
mchua |
kis: satellit__ and kwurst demand to know the command you typed to fix sugar-emulator being too big for a netbook screen :D |
| 09:33 |
satellit__ |
* yes the Undiscoverable (It should be more prominent on wiki somehow) |
| 09:33 |
mchua |
oh, satellit__ - did you introduce yourself to the class yet? |
| 09:33 |
|
I'm not sure if all the profs know who you ar eyet. |
| 09:33 |
|
er, who you are. |
| 09:33 |
satellit__ |
Tom Gilliard Bend Oregon,,,,volunteer retired |
| 09:35 |
|
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Satellit |
| 09:46 |
|
mchua: in terminal sugar-emulator -i 600x500 works fine |
| 10:01 |
mchua |
kwurst: ^^ satellit__ found it |
| 10:02 |
kwurst |
mchua: I got it to work. |
| 10:03 |
nhacbv |
mchua: is it possible for me to debug my code? I'm not sure how when using the sugar emulator |
| 10:03 |
satellit__ |
mchua: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]n_Size_Adjustment |
| 10:04 |
|
* nice trick thanks everone...has been a problem for me-helps a lot! |
| 10:05 |
mchua |
nhacbv: What are you trying to do? |
| 10:06 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I made some changes in the irc code to test the journal implementation, but it's not working as I planned. How would I check for errors or exceptions? |
| 10:08 |
mchua |
nhacbv: One place to look is the Log Activity - try that first, see if it gets you the data you need. If not, we'll find other ways to debug. |
| 10:10 |
nhacbv |
mchua: ok |
| 10:11 |
|
oh, and this is kinda off-topic (not really), but found out there will be a new OLPC laptop? XO-2? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-2 |
| 10:14 |
pbrobinson |
nhacbv: XO-2 is dead |
| 10:14 |
|
nhacbv: google for the XO-3 |
| 10:14 |
nhacbv |
pbrobinson: really? |
| 10:14 |
pbrobinson |
nhacbv: yep :-| |
| 10:14 |
|
nhacbv: http://blog.laptop.org/2010/05[…]marvell-and-olpc/ |
| 10:15 |
mchua |
and the XO-1.5 |
| 10:17 |
nhacbv |
ehh... I don't really like the XO-3. it's nice, but for kids? |
| 10:18 |
|
so what happened to the XO-2? |
| 10:20 |
sdziallas |
cjb: ping; do you probably have a couch to crash on in the second week of August or a rec whom to ping? (I'm doing http://teachingopensource.org/[…]php/LinuxCon_2010 and looking for a place to crash) |
| 10:26 |
mchua |
has been spending the morning spamming local Sugar hackers to come pitch in |
| 10:27 |
|
about to spam the whole list |
| 10:27 |
|
nhacbv: vaporware is the short answer. |
| 10:29 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I guess the design DOES look far-fetch'd |
| 10:34 |
mchua |
nhacbv: photoshop ;) |
| 10:34 |
nhacbv |
mchua: was gonna say .-. |
| 10:46 |
|
mchua: not exactly sure how to use the Log activity with the irc here. |
| 10:46 |
|
mchua: would I use print from python, or another command? |
| 10:46 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Did you open up the Log Activity? What do you see down the left sidebar? |
| 10:47 |
|
nhacbv: there should be one listing for Irc.Activity (or similar) |
| 10:47 |
|
that gives you a traceback. |
| 10:47 |
sdziallas |
I think we're getting some coverage: http://www.olpcnews.com/softwa[…]f_mirabelles.html |
| 10:47 |
dsd_ |
bernie_afk: i'm pretty religious about only working upstream, and i only dont upload to aslo when its broken :P |
| 10:48 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I don't see any log for irc |
| 10:48 |
|
no wait, nevermind, I see it |
| 10:48 |
m_anish |
dsd_, ping |
| 10:48 |
dsd_ |
hi m_anish |
| 10:48 |
m_anish |
dsd_, hi |
| 10:49 |
|
dsd_, I wanted to know whether the new patch is fine? |
| 10:49 |
dsd_ |
the 1x1 thing is nasty |
| 10:49 |
|
i think we can do better |
| 10:50 |
kwurst |
walterbender: I've lost it - which site has the tickets for measure? |
| 10:50 |
m_anish |
dsd_, ok |
| 10:50 |
nhacbv |
mchua: ok so the irc log is working, how would I use it in the irc program? |
| 10:51 |
|
mchua: as in put in some lines to catch errors from what I wrote |
| 10:51 |
m_anish |
dsd_, if I hide the widgets i'm currently resizing to 1x1, the ui doesn't behave as expected... |
| 10:51 |
mchua |
nhacbv: OH! You're talking about debugging inline. |
| 10:52 |
|
sorry, i thought the program had crashed and you were looking for tracebacks. |
| 10:52 |
nhacbv |
mchua: haha, yeah |
| 10:52 |
m_anish |
dsd_, maybe its the issue ericb2 explained on the list http://lists.laptop.org/piperm[…]ugust/003239.html |
| 10:52 |
dsd_ |
m_anish: and why is that? |
| 10:52 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I did a try and catch thing in the program |
| 10:52 |
|
mchua: so I hopefully won't get any crashing |
| 10:52 |
mchua |
nhacbv: You can try running it from the Terminal Activity - from the command line. cd over to Activities/Irc.activity and do python <whatever-the-name-of-the-file-is>.py. |
| 10:53 |
nhacbv |
mchua: from the emulator? |
| 10:54 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Yep. |
| 10:54 |
|
More experienced Activity devs here may know better ways... |
| 10:54 |
|
coughs * cjb walterbender * ^ |
| 10:54 |
m_anish |
dsd_, maybe if we can control the order in which the widgets are being drawn, it may work out |
| 10:55 |
kwurst |
mchua: I forgot - what site has the tickets for measure? |
| 10:56 |
mchua |
kwurst: bugs.sugarlabs.org. |
| 10:56 |
|
kwurst: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query will let you build a custom query for component: Measure. |
| 11:01 |
kwurst |
mchua: Thanks. |
| 11:01 |
m_anish |
dsd_, what do you suggest. I'm thinking of experimenting with gtk.gdk.Window.raise_ and gtk.gdk.Window.lower |
| 11:04 |
mchua |
nhacbv: how'd the testing go? |
| 11:04 |
nhacbv |
mchua: nothing runs when I do 'python ircactivity.py' |
| 11:05 |
|
mchua: there are not errors throwing back at me, but nothing running |
| 11:05 |
|
no* |
| 11:05 |
mchua |
Nothing runs at all? |
| 11:06 |
|
Huh. |
| 11:06 |
|
nhacbv: did you push your latest changes to git? I'll check them out |
| 11:06 |
nhacbv |
mchua: you're gonna have to teach me that hehe. |
| 11:07 |
|
mchua: never used git to do so before |
| 11:08 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Ah, right! Ok - did you use git checkout to get the code in the first place? |
| 11:08 |
|
nhacbv: (I'm trying to figure out where you started from) |
| 11:08 |
nhacbv |
oh, I used git clone |
| 11:08 |
mchua |
kwurst - your blog mentioned wanting to know git more, so nhacbv and I are walking through pushing right now if you feel like listening in |
| 11:09 |
|
nhacbv: ok, great - and did you do the change as a commit to your local repository? |
| 11:09 |
|
nhacbv: (git commit -a) |
| 11:09 |
|
(if you have no idea what I'm babbling about, holler and I'll back up) |
| 11:10 |
nhacbv |
I haven't done that. |
| 11:10 |
|
guess I'll do that now? |
| 11:10 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Yep - "git commit -a" and then tell me what your screen looks like. |
| 11:10 |
|
nhacbv: it should pop you up a dialog for adding a commit message, listing the files that you've modified down below (make sure they're the right ones) |
| 11:12 |
nhacbv |
mchua: and I do have that dialog. I put in "# added read_file() and write_file() to the Activity" sound good? |
| 11:13 |
mchua |
Yep. Actually, you don't even need the # at the beginning (it's all a text comment) but that works! |
| 11:13 |
nhacbv |
ah alright |
| 11:13 |
|
ok done |
| 11:14 |
|
saved the commit |
| 11:14 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Excellent. Now, do you have a git.sugarlabs.org account? |
| 11:14 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I don't, I'll get one now |
| 11:15 |
|
mchua: ok done |
| 11:16 |
mchua |
nhacbv: what is it? |
| 11:16 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I got the account. so what should I do now? |
| 11:16 |
|
bvuong |
| 11:16 |
mchua |
nhacbv: I'm going to add you to the list of mainline committers. |
| 11:16 |
nhacbv |
mchua: ok |
| 11:17 |
mchua |
nhacbv: when you go to http://git.sugarlabs.org/proje[…]rc/repos/mainline do you see a line at the top that says "Push URL"? |
| 11:17 |
|
(once you're logged in) |
| 11:18 |
nhacbv |
nhacbv: yep |
| 11:18 |
mchua |
nhacbv: if so, click the "more info" and follow those instructions |
| 11:18 |
nhacbv |
mchua: yep |
| 11:18 |
dsd_ |
m_anish: i dont really understand the problem. perhaps it is related to strange use of gtk.Window. the Record UI is not doing anything particularly striking/innovative, so i dont see why we would need such complexities/hacks |
| 11:18 |
mchua |
nhacbv: and if the push went through successfully, we should see your commit go through in a few minutes on http://git.sugarlabs.org/proje[…]rc/repos/mainline. |
| 11:19 |
walterbender |
kwurst: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/quer[…]ity&col=milestone |
| 11:22 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I get this error when pushing: |
| 11:22 |
|
Permission denied (publickey). |
| 11:22 |
|
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 11:22 |
m_anish |
dsd_, hmm |
| 11:23 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Try doing this: |
| 11:23 |
|
nhacbv: git remote rm origin |
| 11:23 |
|
nhacbv: git remote add origin gitorious git.sugarlabs.org:irc/mainline.git |
| 11:23 |
|
nhacbv: git push origin master |
| 11:23 |
|
nhacbv: ...and see what you get |
| 11:24 |
nhacbv |
mchua: still got "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" |
| 11:24 |
m_anish |
dsd_, I'm not so sure why trying to hide instead of resizing windows doesn't work |
| 11:25 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Hm. Let me try something real quick - I'll clone and push a simple commit myself, to make sure I'm giving you the right commands. |
| 11:25 |
dsd_ |
that would be a good stating point to investigate |
| 11:25 |
Mel-7d94 |
Excellent. Now to see if I can make and push a change... |
| 11:26 |
mchua |
nhacbv: How many files did you change? |
| 11:26 |
nhacbv |
mchua: just ircactivity.py |
| 11:28 |
mchua |
nhacbv: ...yep, that just worked for me - do you have the ssh key you uploaded to gitorious, on your machine right now? |
| 11:28 |
|
nhacbv: (did you upload an ssh key to gitorious?) |
| 11:28 |
|
may have neglected to mention that |
| 11:28 |
nhacbv |
mchua: I don't think I done that |
| 11:29 |
|
mchua: how would I do that? |
| 11:29 |
mchua |
nhacbv: That would probably be it, then. :) |
| 11:30 |
|
nhacbv: go to the "my account" thing at the top right; you'll see a place to upload it. |
| 11:32 |
nhacbv |
mchua: alright, so it says the key should be located at ~/.ssh/ and should be id_dsa.pub or id_rsa.pub, but I don't have any of those. |
| 11:32 |
mchua |
nhacbv: You'll need to make one, then. |
| 11:32 |
|
nhacbv: google for "creating an ssh key" and see what you get. |
| 11:32 |
|
trying to teach self-sufficiency ;) |
| 11:33 |
|
catching up on GIANT SL email backlog |
| 11:34 |
erikos |
is gonzalo, our new paint hero around? |
| 11:34 |
nhacbv |
mchua: ok, I created one with ssh-keygen, and uploading it right now |
| 11:35 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Excellent. Those commands I sent you should work after that. |
| 11:36 |
|
nhacbv: You found the right instructions, too. |
| 11:36 |
|
spewing tickets into her queue for things-to-do-later |
| 11:36 |
|
like http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2036 |
| 11:36 |
|
(these are all small things, I'm just going through emails and TODO.txt in IRC and making sure they're all in one place) |
| 11:36 |
nhacbv |
mchua: um, I still get errors: |
| 11:36 |
|
Access denied or bad repository path |
| 11:36 |
|
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 11:37 |
scyrma |
bernie_afk: I'll need a small config change on sunjammer for ole's aegir |
| 11:37 |
mchua |
nhacbv: after git remote rm origin? |
| 11:37 |
nhacbv |
mchua: yep |
| 11:37 |
mchua |
nhacbv: and git remote add origin <blah blah>? |
| 11:37 |
|
scratches head |
| 11:37 |
nhacbv |
mchua: all of that |
| 11:38 |
mchua |
nhacbv: but this is a different error message than you got last time. |
| 11:38 |
|
...so that's progress. |
| 11:40 |
|
hasn't seen that error message before. |
| 11:40 |
|
nhacbv: I'm googling it... suggest you do the same in parallel. |
| 11:41 |
nhacbv |
mchua: alright, but I'm going to get lunch first. |
| 11:41 |
|
mchua: that ok? |
| 11:41 |
mchua |
nhacbv: Yeah,I will be out for lunch in 30m myself |
| 11:41 |
|
nhacbv: I'll leave you messages here if you can catch backscroll. |
| 11:41 |
nhacbv |
ok |
| 11:42 |
mchua |
nhacbv_afk: When you get back, try one thing for me: do a fresh checkout of the code, so in any blank directory |
| 11:42 |
|
nhacbv_afk: git clone git://git.sugarlabs.org/irc/mainline.git |
| 11:42 |
|
nhacbv_afk: ...and then make some minor change to some file, like TODO.txt - just to test pushing a chnage |
| 11:42 |
|
nhacbv_afk: er, change |
| 11:43 |
|
nhacbv_afk: and then commit the change |
| 11:43 |
|
nhacbv_afk: git commit -a |
| 11:43 |
|
nhacbv_afk: then do the steps from before |
| 11:43 |
|
nhacbv_afk: git remote rm origin |
| 11:43 |
|
nhacbv_afk: git remote add origin gitoriousgit.sugarlabs.org:irc/mainline.git |
| 11:43 |
|
nhacbv_afk: git push |
| 11:44 |
|
nhacbv_afk: (if that last one doesnt work, try "git push origin master") |
| 11:44 |
|
nhacbv_afk: and tell me what you get. if that doesn't work, also doublecheck that the ssh key you uploaded to gitorious is the same one in your .ssh folder - tell me what file you uploaded (should be id_rsa.pub) |
| 11:58 |
lucian |
i don't get this. soas has virtualbox mouse integration on, but it can't mount shared folders |
| 12:00 |
cjb |
mchua: I think your pgf is going to need to get a new nickname :) |
| 12:00 |
|
(pgf in this channel is Paul Fox.) |
| 12:07 |
m_anish |
dsd_, so I've tried stripping the resize statements from the code ... and gotten to a point where just resizing the slowLiveVideoWindow to 1x1 makes the UI work in photo/video livemode. If I don't resize it, I get a concentric black rectangle overlaid on the live photo window. If i hide it, the recording progressbar and/or the shutter button get hidden. |
| 12:09 |
tomeu |
cjb: going to guadec? http://blogs.gnome.org/carlosg[…]uch-to-just-work/ |
| 12:10 |
cjb |
was just reading that :) |
| 12:11 |
|
I think it's like five years since I actually left the country to go to a conference, though |
| 12:11 |
|
I just don't like travel that much |
| 12:21 |
|
tomeu: any idea who Carlos works for, btw? |
| 12:21 |
tomeu |
hmm, some european company I think |
| 12:21 |
bemasc |
thought he was a freelance Flash developer |
| 12:21 |
cjb |
bemasc: not that one :) |
| 12:21 |
bemasc |
oh, carlosg |
| 12:22 |
cjb |
ah, Lanedo |
| 12:22 |
tomeu |
could be |
| 12:29 |
nhacbv |
mchua_afk: the steps worked, just so you know. |
| 12:43 |
lucian |
is starting to hate vbox guest additions |
| 12:45 |
|
for a wrapper module, what's the best way to determine a backend? |
| 12:48 |
m_anish |
dsd_, ping |
| 12:54 |
mtd |
m_anish: resizing to 1x1 is ugly and looks to be a bit of a hack by erikb to get things to sort of look right (I wouldn't say "work"). I hope you can find a better way, like dsd suggested. |
| 12:54 |
|
m_anish: I'd go back to try to understand precisely what you want to happen. |
| 12:56 |
m_anish |
mtd, agree |
| 12:58 |
|
mtd, part of the problem is that when I hide some widgets (instead of resizing them), the UI doen't seem to work ... Next, I can't find a way to keep the active widgets on top (till now) ... |
| 12:58 |
dsd_ |
dont feel restricted by the current crazy code |
| 12:58 |
|
its not nice to look at and hard to comprehend |
| 12:58 |
lucian |
is anyone else using soas inside virtualbox? |
| 12:59 |
dsd_ |
i would imagine it could be done in a simple manner |
| 12:59 |
|
the screen layout really does not change much in the different modes |
| 12:59 |
m_anish |
dsd_, agree, but it would have to be more of a rewrite than a patch |
| 13:00 |
dsd_ |
a rewrite is still a patch |
| 13:00 |
m_anish |
:) |
| 13:00 |
dsd_ |
and it wouldnt be a rewrite of the activity |
| 13:00 |
|
only of the UI part |
| 13:00 |
|
you wont need to touch any of the recording pipelines for example |
| 13:01 |
mchua |
nhacbv: good to hear! |
| 13:01 |
|
nhacbv: so now you can push your patch and we can go about debugging it :) |
| 13:02 |
nhacbv |
mchua: right |
| 13:02 |
godiard |
bernie_afk: Hi, are you here? |
| 13:04 |
mchua |
nhacbv: I'm going to be running around for the next ~1h but after that we can sit down and try to get you a traceback. In the meantime, walterbender had a suggestion for a second feature |
| 13:04 |
m_anish |
dsd_, ok |
| 13:04 |
mchua |
nhacbv: when you start up irc, have a splashscreen that can display an arbitrary message ("hi, welcome to IRC - this is a chatroom... may take people a while to respond to your messages") |
| 13:04 |
|
nhacbv: as an introduction to "you are talking to a room of people and it may be confusing" |
| 13:05 |
nhacbv |
mchua: alright |
| 13:05 |
m_anish |
dsd_, btw I've possibly found a way around resizing 1x1 but it would again be a hack (slightly less ugly) |
| 13:08 |
kwurst |
kis: here's the path: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/graphics |
| 13:08 |
m_anish |
dsd_, I'll look into rewriting the UI code. Need to talk with bernie_afk regarding this ... (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]Release_schedule_.28TBD.29) |
| 13:15 |
kis |
kwurst: thanks. I am looking at it. |
| 13:25 |
lucian |
roars in anger at virtualbox |
| 13:28 |
satellit__ |
lucian: if you have sun virtualbox look at http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]eREADME_FIRST.txt prebuilt vb appliance to import |
| 13:29 |
m_anish |
lucian, just saw your message ... i've tried using soas in a vitrualbox OSE ... it starts up and works fine, but the data gets lost upon restart |
| 13:29 |
lucian |
m_anish: i'm using it in oracle vbox |
| 13:30 |
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satellit__: i'll try that |
| 13:30 |
satellit__ |
m_anish: did you install it with liveinst or zyx-liveinstaller? if not it is running CD .iso (you need to set cd to empty in settings) |
| 13:31 |
m_anish |
satellit_, its just running cd .iso |
| 13:31 |
satellit__ |
=no persistence...: / |
| 13:31 |
lucian |
m_anish: then yeah, you need to install it |
| 13:32 |
m_anish |
satellit_, lucian, ah, ok |
| 13:32 |
satellit__ |
* standard 8GB HD is fine |
| 13:32 |
lucian |
m_anish: you're running it as a livecd right now |
| 13:32 |
m_anish |
lucian, yes |
| 13:32 |
nhacbv |
mchua: the update ircactivity.py file should be there now. possible you can inspect it? |
| 13:33 |
dsd_ |
m_anish: dont feel pressured by a schedule. you've already produced a hack version for someone with a deadline. open source achieves quality by being ready when its ready :) |
| 13:33 |
m_anish |
lucian, mirabelle and strawberry both seem to work fine, no audio, video though |
| 13:34 |
lucian |
m_anish: i don't really care, i just need a sugar with shared folder working |
| 13:34 |
satellit__ |
in ose: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]v3-Mirabelle.vmdk is a hard disk you should be able to use |
| 13:34 |
m_anish |
lucian, sorry I don't have any experience with that :/ |
| 13:35 |
satellit__ |
ask daveb something about permissions for user |
| 13:35 |
lucian |
m_anish: virtualbox's shared folder feature |
| 13:36 |
m_anish |
lucian, i haven't tried sharing folders/files ... btw what exacty do you want to accomplish by sharing |
| 13:36 |
lucian |
m_anish: i want to share a folder in the guest with a folder in the host |
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m_anish: so i can actually run code i write |
| 13:36 |
satellit__ |
if you use liveinst and are same user on PC it may help |
| 13:37 |
m_anish |
dsd_, i can tell from experience that in the proprietary world, quality _is_ sacrificed for money :) |
| 13:38 |
satellit__ |
* also in terminal setenforce 0 as root may help |
| 13:38 |
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in running sugar |
| 13:39 |
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* network as nat |