| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:15 | meeting | Meeting started Thu Jun 2 15:15:13 2016 UTC. The chair is iamutkarshtiwari. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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| 15:15 | iamutkarshtiwari | Hi icarito |
| 15:15 | icarito | how are you doing? |
| 15:15 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am good. Exams are going on. |
| 15:16 | How are you? | |
| 15:17 | icarito | fine thanks |
| 15:17 | iamutkarshtiwari | Mr. Anderson couldn't make it today |
| 15:18 | icarito | are you leading a blog or some progress record? it would be good to follow up |
| 15:19 | iamutkarshtiwari | I keep posting my progress on #GSoC thread, will make sure to forward you the progress as well. |
| 15:20 | Have you had any chance with looking at my screenshot patch? | |
| 15:21 | icarito | I saw an animated screenshot from a meeting log a few days ago |
| 15:21 | iamutkarshtiwari | I had already generated a PR for the same. Will improve it as my exam ends. |
| 15:21 | icarito | really I don't think email is enough, it would be much better to have a blog |
| 15:21 | the font activity team is making a post each day | |
| 15:21 | iamutkarshtiwari | Coudl you please suggest any improvements ? |
| 15:22 | icarito | that might be overkill but I want to help you avoid being stuck |
| 15:22 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll also make a blog then.. |
| 15:23 | I created athread on mailing list regarding "Save as' patch code designed by Mr. Bender. | |
| 15:23 | icarito | it doesn't have to be very custom |
| 15:23 | yes I replied | |
| 15:24 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am not exactly able to figure out how to get about it. |
| 15:25 | icarito | well try an older sugar release it used to be included |
| 15:25 | it's even quite interesting to see a VERY old sugar release (< 0.82) | |
| 15:25 | those were maybe closer to the original design | |
| 15:26 | iamutkarshtiwari | You mean I should clone it's sugar-build from github? |
| 15:27 | icarito | the very oldest you will find as qemu images |
| 15:27 | I don't think sugar-build will take you so far back | |
| 15:28 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am on Ubuntu 14.04. How would you suggest me to get that old sugar without Sugar-build? |
| 15:32 | icarito | i'm looking for the qemu images http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emul[…]_XO/Help_and_tips |
| 15:33 | https://www6.software.ibm.com/[…]l-sugarpy-pdf.pdf | |
| 15:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll give it a try |
| 15:34 | What are your thoughts on "sugar offline"? | |
| 15:36 | icarito | another option is to look for the commit when the removal happened |
| 15:37 | my thoughts are you need to have a firm set of requirements otherwise these little projects grow as tony thinks of new stuff for them | |
| 15:37 | :-) | |
| 15:37 | it is a good idea to have activities not depend on internet | |
| 15:37 | but to depend on a specific server is about the same imho | |
| 15:37 | specific server implementations are even less common than internet | |
| 15:40 | iamutkarshtiwari | Mr. Anderson invited my to Nepal to get an understanding of how school servers work. I guess it is to help me with "Sugar offfline" feature |
| 15:41 | icarito | great it will give you a perspective on the challenges faced |
| 15:42 | just keep in mind the nepali deployment is about the one with the better technical teams | |
| 15:42 | many times XOs are abandoned in schools | |
| 15:42 | sometimes without use | |
| 15:43 | iamutkarshtiwari | Oh. |
| 15:43 | I'll also get my hand on an XO1 so that I can test the patch at my end. | |
| 15:44 | patches* | |
| 15:46 | icarito | yes it will give you an idea of the resource limitations |
| 15:46 | for instance, using `subprocess` is a big no no | |
| 15:46 | because each process is expensive in RAM | |
| 15:46 | and XO1 only has 256mb | |
| 15:47 | it used to be they locked up when RAM was exhausted | |
| 15:47 | they still do actually as most of the users haven't updated | |
| 15:49 | iamutkarshtiwari | How would you prefer "Save As" as to look like? A modal dialog popup or like an alert popup inside activities? |
| 15:50 | icarito | it looked pretty much like the journal object chooser |
| 15:51 | look lets look for it so you can see it | |
| 15:54 | iamutkarshtiwari | Mr. Anderson expects a design where user should be given an option to save or not save. If save is chosen, the object should be backed up by the user on the online server. |
| 15:56 | icarito | you should really start from the old save dialog |
| 15:56 | add a 'don't save' option | |
| 15:56 | the server backup should be independent of it | |
| 15:56 | because servers are optional and unusual | |
| 15:57 | and also becasue it is bad design to have that happen at save time imho | |
| 15:58 | i.e. your UI should not block it should be a background process | |
| 15:58 | iamutkarshtiwari | https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]veOption_UtkarshT |
| 15:59 | Please have a look at the mockups I designed for Save As. ^ | |
| 16:01 | icarito | here's some relevant discussion that should give us some timeframes |
| 16:01 | http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ember/026459.html | |
| 16:02 | iamutkarshtiwari | thanks :) |
| 16:07 | We'll try to get in touch with Mr. Anderson tomorrow? | |
| 16:09 | I think we are an hour past the meeting. | |
| 16:10 | I need to leave now. Bye :) | |
| 16:10 | #endmeeting | |
| 16:10 | meeting | Meeting ended Thu Jun 2 16:10:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 16:10 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-02T15:15:13.html | |
| 16:10 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-06-02T15:15:13 |