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| 17:24 | tony37 | heloo |
| 17:24 | Hello | |
| 17:25 | iamutkarshtiwari | Hello |
| 17:26 | tony37: I thought you wouldn't come :P | |
| 17:26 | tony37 | hello |
| 17:26 | Had some problems but sseems to be working | |
| 17:26 | iamutkarshtiwari | Cool. |
| 17:26 | Before sending you that mail, I had already tried everything you mentioned in the reply. | |
| 17:27 | tony37 | understand |
| 17:27 | iamutkarshtiwari | The 'First collection' is in the form of html files. |
| 17:28 | tony37 | Yes |
| 17:28 | iamutkarshtiwari | So if we try to access the index.html file, We get a list of all the books. |
| 17:28 | I am not able to figure how to display that list in GetBooks. | |
| 17:28 | tony37 | This is CK-12? |
| 17:28 | iamutkarshtiwari | Wait a min. let me check. |
| 17:29 | It's 'en-ebooks' | |
| 17:29 | tony37 | from gutenberg? |
| 17:29 | iamutkarshtiwari | #startmeeting |
| 17:30 | meeting | Meeting started Tue Jul 19 17:29:59 2016 UTC. The chair is iamutkarshtiwari. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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| 17:31 | iamutkarshtiwari | It's from 'Rachels' |
| 17:31 | Both the collections I have is from 'Rachels' | |
| 17:32 | One has books in 'pdf' form | |
| 17:32 | and other has books in 'html' form | |
| 17:32 | tony37 | Right. The CK-121 collection is pdf, the gutenberg based collection is html (or plain text). |
| 17:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | Do I need to add different codes for different collections? |
| 17:34 | tony37 | It looks like it!? |
| 17:34 | iamutkarshtiwari | I mean, for parsing 'pdf' I need to add code which can fetch books from pdf. |
| 17:34 | for parsing 'html' I need to add which can fetch books from html. ? | |
| 17:35 | tony37 | Let's keep it simple. The goal is to download the selected book to the Journal. The user can read it with the Read activity. |
| 17:36 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am thinking of adding a common parser for both 'pdf' and 'html' type collections. |
| 17:36 | tony37 | You only need to worry about html |
| 17:36 | iamutkarshtiwari | What about 'pdf' based collection? |
| 17:37 | tony37 | All you need to do is download it to the Journal |
| 17:37 | iamutkarshtiwari | But for that, I need to first be able to display the list in the GetBooks' list view. |
| 17:37 | tony37 | Agreed. My suggestion is use BeautifulSoup |
| 17:38 | iamutkarshtiwari | BeautifulSoup :/ |
| 17:38 | ? | |
| 17:38 | tony37 | Wonderful tool for doing what you need to do |
| 17:39 | iamutkarshtiwari | It's used to beautify html code. Whereas I need to parse the 'index.html' file to fetch the book list. |
| 17:40 | tony37 | Essentially, use urllib2 to get the html file. Then use BeautifulSoup to find the links for display. |
| 17:40 | iamutkarshtiwari | oh.. |
| 17:40 | tony37 | Both packages are well documented online |
| 17:40 | iamutkarshtiwari | Could you please specify all type of collections which need to be added for schoolserver support. |
| 17:41 | tony37 | No, this is open-ended. |
| 17:41 | iamutkarshtiwari | Because each collection will have it's indivisual parsing technique and specific code. |
| 17:41 | tony37 | Probably you will find most are html based and result in download of an ebook to the Journal. |
| 17:43 | iamutkarshtiwari | I have been using grep since my first contribution :P Without it, nothing would be possible. |
| 17:44 | I try to make best use of all the available resource. | |
| 17:44 | #SaveAs | |
| 17:44 | tony37 | grep is marvelous (I especially like grep -r) |
| 17:44 | iamutkarshtiwari | Today I generated a new PR for 'sugar-toolkit' (sugar2) |
| 17:44 | tony37 | #GetBooks - I think you have an opportunity to make a major enhancement to handle online collections with html as well as schoolserver collections |
| 17:44 | iamutkarshtiwari | Did you try it on your XO? I had also sent you the .xo for Browse-16 and the files (activity.py and alerts.py) for 'sugar2' |
| 17:45 | tony37 | #save as - great! I haven't had a chance to install it yet -but will tomorrow |
| 17:45 | iamutkarshtiwari | #GetBooks- Yes I will try my best. ;) |
| 17:45 | tony37 | Meanwhile, some more work. You shouldn't give me time to think |
| 17:46 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Try it on turtleArt or TurtleBlocks (both are based on sugar2 ) |
| 17:46 | tony37: ? | |
| 17:46 | tony37 | Try what on TurtleBlocks |
| 17:47 | iamutkarshtiwari | The latest 'activity.py' and 'alerts.py' I had sent you today. |
| 17:47 | tony37 | What has that to do with TurtleBlocks? |
| 17:47 | iamutkarshtiwari | I mean try closing 'TurtleBlocks' to test whether the 'saveAs' alert appear. |
| 17:47 | tony37 | I see, you mean as a document handler for testing |
| 17:47 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. |
| 17:48 | tony37: 'Meanwhile, some more work. You shouldn't give me time to think" | |
| 17:48 | tony37 | On the other point. One complaint about the Journal is the 'clutter' of activities which only have a metadata file. |
| 17:48 | iamutkarshtiwari | I didn't get you ? ^ |
| 17:49 | tony37 | Perhaps we could come up with a new filter on the Journal to exclude those objects from the display. |
| 17:49 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Do you want me to remove the 'joject' from Journal on 'quit' ? |
| 17:49 | jobject* | |
| 17:49 | tony37 | I am thinking of adding a 'log' filter which exposes those items but the default is not to show them. |
| 17:49 | No, the object is there but not visible. | |
| 17:49 | iamutkarshtiwari | Like a new 'Gsetting boolean' ? |
| 17:50 | tony37 | There is already a mechanism in the Journal to show only audio objects or html objects. I think we add a filter 'log' which does show all objects and let anything only show the objects with a title supplied by user, |
| 17:51 | The filters are selected by a combobox in the toolbar. | |
| 17:51 | iamutkarshtiwari | You mean show only those objects with some 'activity data' ? |
| 17:51 | tony37 | With a title supplied by user in the metadata. |
| 17:52 | So, yes | |
| 17:52 | iamutkarshtiwari | Those with no 'activity data' should remain hidden. |
| 17:52 | tony37 | Yes, unless the user selects 'log'. Then show all of them as at present. |
| 17:53 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Got it. |
| 17:54 | tony37 | This way users who don't have access to a school server can still see the benefits of save as. |
| 17:54 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: First let's focus on finish #GetBooks |
| 17:54 | "Meanwhile, some more work. You shouldn't give me time to think" ~ I didn't get you? | |
| 17:55 | tony37 | Go - you should have time to do many more things :) |
| 17:55 | Meaning when you give me time, I think of more things to do. | |
| 17:55 | iamutkarshtiwari | oh.. |
| 17:56 | tony37 | #GetBooks You probably will have to modify the config to show whether the repository is rss or atom or html. |
| 18:00 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll have to research more on how rss or atom or html are differentiated by 'GetBooks' |
| 18:01 | tony37 | You will probably need a different interface that uses urllib2 and BeautifulSoup instead of opds.py and feedparser |
| 18:01 | iamutkarshtiwari | One more doubt. |
| 18:02 | tony37 | You will also have to learn listview so that you can populate it from the html text. |
| 18:02 | iamutkarshtiwari | How do we provide the 'deployers' with an option to add book collection support to 'getbooks' ? |
| 18:02 | Besides adding links to 'get-books.cfg' ? | |
| 18:03 | tony37 | We probably need to document the process. |
| 18:03 | iamutkarshtiwari | Do they need to modify the code themselves ? |
| 18:03 | Oh. | |
| 18:03 | tony37 | I hope not, but the documentation could be added to the code. |
| 18:04 | iamutkarshtiwari | Ok. |
| 18:04 | tony37 | They should only have to edit get-books.cfg |
| 18:04 | So you could provide a README to explain it. | |
| 18:05 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll try to display the list of books from .index.html into Getbooks. |
| 18:06 | But those books collection doesn't have info about the books. How do we display the books summary and author name? | |
| 18:06 | tony37 | Great! Now doing it with an online collection such as Rachel is also a contribution not just a test strategy. The collections you downloaded are accessible online - only a little bit tricky to find. |
| 18:06 | Good question. Generally, those collections don't need a search since they are giving a list of links to ebooks. | |
| 18:07 | iamutkarshtiwari | So we would simply display the book names and their respective links? No book summary and author names if not available? |
| 18:08 | tony37 | Yes |
| 18:08 | iamutkarshtiwari | Ok |
| 18:09 | tony37 | I've got to sign off. We can do this again tomorrow, if you wish. |
| 18:09 | iamutkarshtiwari | Please note: The code which I would be adding will be |
| 18:09 | specific to the books collections ('Rachel') | |
| 18:10 | which might not work in case of other collection structure. So the deployers need to make sure | |
| 18:10 | tony37 | Good start, Later we can look at other collections to see if they fit the pattern or if new code is needed. |
| 18:10 | iamutkarshtiwari | that the books collections are exaactly in the same format. |
| 18:11 | tony37 | Actually, the book format is not the problem, after the book is downloaded, the Read.activity can handle it (or not). GetBooks does that, it gets the book. |
| 18:11 | iamutkarshtiwari | But in the other collection |
| 18:11 | where the books are in 'html' format | |
| 18:11 | Will the 'Read' activity be able to open those books in 'html' format? | |
| 18:12 | tony37 | Fiddler time - open in Browse |
| 18:12 | iamutkarshtiwari | Oh.. Nice idea! |
| 18:13 | Ok..Let's discuss it again someday. | |
| 18:13 | Will try to update you with some progress. | |
| 18:13 | tony37 | Meantime, bye |
| 18:13 | iamutkarshtiwari | Bye |
| 18:13 | #endmeeting | |
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