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| 14:31 | tony_ | hello |
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| 14:31 | iamutkarshtiwari | #startmeeting |
| 14:31 | meeting | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 14:31:46 2016 UTC. The chair is iamutkarshtiwari. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:31 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 14:31 | iamutkarshtiwari | Hi |
| 14:32 | tony_: Hello | |
| 14:32 | tony_ | So pretty print of js is a problem |
| 14:32 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes |
| 14:33 | I looked for online libraries , but there are only 2 | |
| 14:33 | one is jsbeautifier | |
| 14:33 | tony_ | Did you succeed with the pythong routine for css? |
| 14:33 | python* | |
| 14:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | and the other is 'html5print' jsprint |
| 14:33 | Yes. I was able to pretty print css. | |
| 14:33 | and HTML. | |
| 14:34 | tony_ | HTML with BeautifulSoup and CSS with your own code? |
| 14:34 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. |
| 14:34 | CSS(not with my own) but I figured out a way ;) | |
| 14:34 | tony_ | Good - so let's table js for the moment |
| 14:34 | iamutkarshtiwari | It took a long time :( |
| 14:34 | for me to figure that out. Almost my day. | |
| 14:34 | tony_ | Does it require html5print in the bundle? |
| 14:35 | iamutkarshtiwari | CSS? |
| 14:35 | tony_ | for css |
| 14:36 | iamutkarshtiwari | nopes. There another library I found out. |
| 14:36 | is* | |
| 14:37 | tony_ | Sometimes modern programmers go through amazing hoops to avoid programming. I used to do the same. |
| 14:37 | iamutkarshtiwari | :D |
| 14:38 | tony_ | So you have succeeded in installing html5print in the bundle so that it can be zipped as an xo and installed on your xo-1.75 for example |
| 14:38 | iamutkarshtiwari | I wish, html5print could work, it made work a lot easier and the |
| 14:38 | code looked much prettier. | |
| 14:38 | No | |
| 14:39 | html5print requires around 20 imports, which are not already available in the bundle | |
| 14:39 | (it installs it online) | |
| 14:39 | tony_ | So the current plan is to use BeautifulSoup for html, this new package for css and forget about prettifying js for the moment. |
| 14:39 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am not using 'html5print' . |
| 14:40 | Not forget. But we can look into it later. | |
| 14:40 | We have other features to look after as well. | |
| 14:40 | tony_ | Maybe defer is a better word |
| 14:40 | Did you succeed in toggling? | |
| 14:40 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. |
| 14:40 | tony_ | Great! |
| 14:41 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am still working on it. |
| 14:41 | 'pretty' printing took a lot of time. | |
| 14:41 | tony_ | What is the status? |
| 14:42 | iamutkarshtiwari | I need to reformat Ms. Sehgal's code to insert the code you shared. |
| 14:42 | tony_ | How do you mean reformat? |
| 14:42 | iamutkarshtiwari | She designed the webconsole.html |
| 14:43 | tony_ | Yes |
| 14:43 | iamutkarshtiwari | to generate the webpage |
| 14:43 | dynamically using javascript and jquery | |
| 14:43 | Means- It creates the view in the iframe - after pressing 'run' | |
| 14:43 | tony_ | You are not familiar with jquery |
| 14:44 | iamutkarshtiwari | So a new html file is created with the integrated 'boiler plate' |
| 14:44 | Not much. | |
| 14:44 | tony_ | It is a great tool |
| 14:45 | iamutkarshtiwari | I couldn't share with you my previous technique of toggling the console |
| 14:45 | because the version 14 didn't run succesffuly on your end. | |
| 14:45 | tony_ | html5print problem |
| 14:45 | iamutkarshtiwari | It wasn't bad either. |
| 14:45 | I will share with you the gif of that technique. | |
| 14:46 | tony_ | Can't you send a version 15 |
| 14:46 | iamutkarshtiwari | Coudl you give my 3 mins, to make that dif? |
| 14:46 | tony_ | Ok |
| 14:46 | iamutkarshtiwari | version 15 - with pretty html, css and console toggle (MY previous technique) |
| 14:46 | ? | |
| 14:48 | tony_ | Whatever is your high water mark to date. |
| 14:49 | iamutkarshtiwari | http://i.imgur.com/FEzJlEs.png |
| 14:50 | This is my previous technique of console toggling ^ | |
| 14:51 | How is it? | |
| 14:53 | tony_ | It looks ok, I don't understand from the gif what you are doing with the toggle. |
| 14:53 | Is there a reason the toggle is inside the output: panel? | |
| 14:54 | Is this your problem with iframe | |
| 14:56 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. Because the toggle button is incluce inside the code generated (which is displayed in the #iframe after browser.execute_query() in python) |
| 14:56 | So it's easy(possible) to control the divs from within | |
| 14:56 | the iframe. | |
| 14:56 | included* | |
| 14:56 | tony_ | But not outside? |
| 14:57 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. That's the problem. It seems easy but it's way more complex. |
| 14:57 | I tried taking help | |
| 14:57 | from some of my MWOS friends. | |
| 14:57 | Even they found a hard time with it :( | |
| 14:58 | tony_ | Actually, I have a version 15 so the next one should be 16 |
| 14:58 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll update you with the 'pretty css, html and console toggle-with my techinque). |
| 14:58 | Please note one thing- | |
| 14:58 | tony_ | She is generating html on the fly, a difficult technique because of the need to nest parentheseses |
| 14:59 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. |
| 14:59 | As we knwo that BS is incapable | |
| 14:59 | of prettifying a html with integrated JS and CSS scripts. | |
| 15:00 | so we will be having the user's output .html file with prettified 'html'(with BS) and 'css'(with Css module I found on internet) scripts | |
| 15:00 | but not prettified JS script. | |
| 15:00 | tony_ | Agreed |
| 15:01 | iamutkarshtiwari | So shall I forward you the new version with all the ^ above mentioned features after the meeting? |
| 15:01 | tony_ | Please, I am anxious to see where we are |
| 15:02 | iamutkarshtiwari | Mr. Anderson.. please I am very eager on moving to our next features :( |
| 15:02 | tony_ | Let's do it |
| 15:02 | iamutkarshtiwari | Let's halt the #Fiddler progress till here. |
| 15:02 | We can polish it more later. | |
| 15:02 | tony_ | Ok until I have a chance to test to see where we are |
| 15:03 | OK - send me version 16 and let's move on to 'save as' | |
| 15:03 | iamutkarshtiwari | No, I mean that would like to finish the work with other features (We have devoted too much time to JSFiddler and I find it hard working on more than one projects simutaneously) |
| 15:03 | I would like* | |
| 15:04 | I didn't make any progress with 'Save As' today. :( | |
| 15:05 | Was involved with 'pretty' printing modules. | |
| 15:05 | tony_ | That is a skill you will need to develop. |
| 15:05 | iamutkarshtiwari | I agree. |
| 15:06 | tony_ | For example, there is no need for you to work on the fiddler feature until after I have tested it. So in the meantime you need to work on something else. |
| 15:06 | iamutkarshtiwari | 'Save as' |
| 15:07 | After the meeting I will start with 'save as' and will update you with a working version of 'discard' feature | |
| 15:07 | as we discussed. | |
| 15:07 | tony_ | OK. You told me you understand where you need to intervene in the sugar activity.py (and have not yet compared this with the sugar3 activity.py |
| 15:07 | what is the discard feature | |
| 15:08 | iamutkarshtiwari | sorry. the 'discard' option* |
| 15:09 | where the users saves the metadata but now the 'files' | |
| 15:09 | not* | |
| 15:09 | tony_ | Do you have a test plan for 'save as'? |
| 15:09 | iamutkarshtiwari | test plan? |
| 15:10 | oh.. I'll test it with all | |
| 15:10 | the activities which use the activity.py in | |
| 15:10 | 'sugar-toolkit' (the deprecated one) | |
| 15:12 | tony_ | Which is 'no' on the alert? |
| 15:12 | hello | |
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| 15:12 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. |
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| 15:15 | tony37 | hello |
| 15:15 | iamutkarshtiwari | tony37: Hello |
| 15:15 | Your internet went down? | |
| 15:15 | tony37 | I lost connection and had to restart -sorry |
| 15:16 | iamutkarshtiwari | :) |
| 15:16 | Yes it's 'no' on the alert' | |
| 15:16 | tony37 | The response time in many cases is measured in seconds and I think the ubuntu network manager gets confused. So I reboot. |
| 15:16 | Have you considered a test plan for this? | |
| 15:17 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. I'll test this with all the activities |
| 15:17 | which use activity.py in | |
| 15:17 | 'sugar-toolkit' (the deprecated one) | |
| 15:18 | tony37 | I don't think that is needed. You are changing activity.py which is used by all of the activities. So it should work the same for each. |
| 15:18 | iamutkarshtiwari | No. |
| 15:18 | There are activities which use activity.py from | |
| 15:18 | 'sugar-toolkit-gtk3' | |
| 15:18 | So I need to take care | |
| 15:19 | tony37 | Of course, but you were talking about sugar |
| 15:19 | iamutkarshtiwari | which activity to test for which 'acitivity.py' |
| 15:19 | I am talking about the 'discard' option in the 'save as' alert. | |
| 15:19 | tony37 | Agreed - but I don't think you need a range of activities. You need to cover the cases |
| 15:19 | iamutkarshtiwari | Cases like? |
| 15:20 | tony37 | First you need an activity that saves a document in the Journal. Write or Paint are examples but both may have been moved to sugar3. |
| 15:21 | Cases are (1) open new (2) quit (3) show alert (4) get a new title or get a no | |
| 15:22 | iamutkarshtiwari | and other is - (1) open new |
| 15:22 | (2) specify name | |
| 15:22 | (3) quit | |
| 15:22 | (4) no alert | |
| 15:22 | tony37 | Further cases are (1) resume (2) quit (3) show alert (4) receive new title (5) receive no change but a request to save |
| 15:22 | iamutkarshtiwari | But what if the user wants to 'discard' even after providing a name in the 'name entry' ? |
| 15:23 | tony37 | If you accept an enter as a 'save' response; how is that possible? |
| 15:24 | Naturally, the user could type an entry without a return and move the cursor to click 'no'. | |
| 15:24 | iamutkarshtiwari | I meant specifying the name for that instance in the top left activity options available. |
| 15:24 | Not in the alert. | |
| 15:24 | tony37 | Ah. I think that case needs to be tested. I would set this case to save with no alert |
| 15:25 | iamutkarshtiwari | Ok. |
| 15:25 | tony37 | Remember the goal is to have the user supply a meaningful name. Now we always save so automatically saving after a name is supplied is fine. If the user is concerned - he/she can always go to the Journal and erase. |
| 15:26 | iamutkarshtiwari | I agree. |
| 15:26 | Let's focus now on finishing 'save as' ASAP. | |
| 15:26 | So that | |
| 15:27 | we can move futher to 'Activity resume' feature. | |
| 15:28 | tony37 | By activity resume - you mean changing the home view so that we can configure whether the default is to resume or to star new |
| 15:28 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes :) |
| 15:28 | tony37 | I'm for that too |
| 15:28 | iamutkarshtiwari | I think I confuse you everytime . sorry |
| 15:28 | tony37 | No - I just want to confirm that we are on the same page |
| 15:29 | iamutkarshtiwari | How was the yesterday's match? |
| 15:29 | tony37 | Very interesting. Portugal, a strong team, had done nothing in the first two matches. In the third they scored three goals in less than 10 minutes. |
| 15:29 | iamutkarshtiwari | Wow :O |
| 15:30 | tony37 | Now Croatia has drawn Portugal. Croatia won and would normally be matched with a weak team. But that is how Portugal showed in the statistics. So now that they have found their pace - poor Croatia must deal with it. |
| 15:31 | iamutkarshtiwari | Let's hope for the best. |
| 15:31 | Both teams are quite strong. | |
| 15:31 | tony37 | It is very important here since I am in Croatia |
| 15:32 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. You told me. ;) |
| 15:32 | Croatia will win. I have lot fo supporters for Croatia here | |
| 15:32 | :D | |
| 15:32 | tony37 | Portugal has Christian Rodinho considered possibly the best player in the world after Lionel Messi. He scored two goals in five minutes after not coming close in the earlier games. |
| 15:33 | We need all the help we can get. | |
| 15:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. He is a world class player. |
| 15:33 | tony37 | But no games until Saturday so we can focus on your features |
| 15:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | May the force be with Croatia |
| 15:33 | Yes. | |
| 15:34 | GSoC meeting tomoroww | |
| 15:34 | at 12:00UTC | |
| 15:34 | Would you be there? | |
| 15:34 | tony37 | Please send me version 16 (and probably you should send it to Sebastian as well. I was pleased at our last meeting that he has been testing the fiddle feature |
| 15:35 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. He has been following up with our latest progress. |
| 15:35 | tony37 | Oh! It is Friday. I need to fill out my evaluation before Monday. |
| 15:35 | iamutkarshtiwari | Please.. :) |
| 15:35 | I'll remind you tommorow as well. :P | |
| 15:36 | tony37 | I will be reminded by the multitudes at the meeting! |
| 15:36 | iamutkarshtiwari | haha :D |
| 15:36 | I think I should go ahead with my work. | |
| 15:37 | tony37 | Remember in your report, an attempt to solve a problem (e.g. html5print) that is unsuccessful is progress. |
| 15:37 | iamutkarshtiwari | :( |
| 15:37 | tony37 | It sometimes seems like progress in the wrong direction (I think of it as one step forward and then two steps back). |
| 15:37 | iamutkarshtiwari | This is bad? |
| 15:37 | Is it* | |
| 15:38 | I did all I could to make it work | |
| 15:38 | (tried including all the dependencies manually and fixing their relative import paths as well) | |
| 15:38 | But it seems to be bugging on a loop. | |
| 15:39 | tony37 | No. I wish you had tried to do as I asked with the css but you learned a lot about the way activities are structured that will be valuable |
| 15:40 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll try to fix JS prettifying soon after we finish 'acivity resume' |
| 15:40 | tony37 | Last year, we had some participants who decided that mustache (js library) was really needed. After spending several days they realized that it was not compatible with the XO graphics |
| 15:41 | iamutkarshtiwari | oh! |
| 15:41 | https://gist.github.com/iamutk[…]d97309bcc629886f4 | |
| 15:41 | this is the code ^ for the CSS printing module | |
| 15:42 | tony37 | About 500 lines of Python (a bit more than 20) |
| 15:42 | iamutkarshtiwari | yes :D |
| 15:43 | That's what I thought when I found out. | |
| 15:43 | tony37 | It also turns on python 3 printing. Probably doesn't impact your other code. |
| 15:44 | Actually I think that only applies to the module where it appears | |
| 15:44 | Anyway - get on with it. We'll meet tomorrow at the Friday meeting. | |
| 15:44 | Bye | |
| 15:45 | iamutkarshtiwari | Bye |
| 15:45 | tony37 has quit IRC | |
| 15:45 | iamutkarshtiwari | #endmeeting |
| 15:45 | meeting | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 15:45:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:45 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-23T14:31:46.html | |
| 15:45 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-06-23T14:31:46 | |
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