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#sugar-newbies, 2016-06-02

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14:37 qwebirc939588 Hi
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14:42 qwebirc646115 Hi
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15:05 icarito hi iamutkarshtiwari
15:14 iamutkarshtiwari hi
15:15 #startmeeting
15:15 meeting Meeting started Thu Jun  2 15:15:13 2016 UTC. The chair is iamutkarshtiwari. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
15:15 iamutkarshtiwari Hi icarito
15:15 icarito how are you doing?
15:15 iamutkarshtiwari I am good. Exams are going on.
15:16 How are you?
15:17 icarito fine thanks
15:17 iamutkarshtiwari Mr. Anderson couldn't make it today
15:18 icarito are you leading a blog or some progress record? it would be good to follow up
15:19 iamutkarshtiwari I keep posting my progress on #GSoC thread, will make sure to forward you the progress as well.
15:20 Have you had any chance with looking at my screenshot patch?
15:21 icarito I saw an animated screenshot from a meeting log a few days ago
15:21 iamutkarshtiwari I had already generated a PR for the same. Will improve it as my exam ends.
15:21 icarito really I don't think email is enough, it would be much better to have a blog
15:21 the font activity team is making a post each day
15:21 iamutkarshtiwari Coudl you please suggest any improvements ?
15:22 icarito that might be overkill but I want to help you avoid being stuck
15:22 iamutkarshtiwari I'll also make a blog then..
15:23 I created athread on mailing list regarding "Save as' patch code designed by Mr. Bender.
15:23 icarito it doesn't have to be very custom
15:23 yes I replied
15:24 iamutkarshtiwari I am not exactly able to figure out how to get about it.
15:25 icarito well try an older sugar release it used to be included
15:25 it's even quite interesting to see a VERY old sugar release (< 0.82)
15:25 those were maybe closer to the original design
15:26 iamutkarshtiwari You mean I should clone it's sugar-build from github?
15:27 icarito the very oldest you will find as qemu images
15:27 I don't think sugar-build will take you so far back
15:28 iamutkarshtiwari I am on Ubuntu 14.04. How would you suggest me to get that old sugar without Sugar-build?
15:32 icarito i'm looking for the qemu images http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emul[…]_XO/Help_and_tips
15:33 https://www6.software.ibm.com/[…]l-sugarpy-pdf.pdf
15:33 iamutkarshtiwari I'll give it a try
15:34 What are your thoughts on "sugar offline"?
15:36 icarito another option is to look for the commit when the removal happened
15:37 my thoughts are you need to have a firm set of requirements otherwise these little projects grow as tony thinks of new stuff for them
15:37 :-)
15:37 it is a good idea to have activities not depend on internet
15:37 but to depend on a specific server is about the same imho
15:37 specific server implementations are even less common than internet
15:40 iamutkarshtiwari Mr. Anderson invited my to Nepal to get an understanding of how school servers work. I guess it is to help me with "Sugar offfline" feature
15:41 icarito great it will give you a perspective on the challenges faced
15:42 just keep in mind the nepali deployment is about the one with the better technical teams
15:42 many times XOs are abandoned in schools
15:42 sometimes without use
15:43 iamutkarshtiwari Oh.
15:43 I'll also get my hand on an XO1 so that I can test the patch at my end.
15:44 patches*
15:46 icarito yes it will give you an idea of the resource limitations
15:46 for instance, using `subprocess` is a big no no
15:46 because each process is expensive in RAM
15:46 and XO1 only has 256mb
15:47 it used to be they locked up when RAM was exhausted
15:47 they still do actually as most of the users haven't updated
15:49 iamutkarshtiwari How would you prefer "Save As" as to look like? A modal dialog popup or like an alert popup inside activities?
15:50 icarito it looked pretty much like the journal object chooser
15:51 look lets look for it so you can see it
15:54 iamutkarshtiwari Mr. Anderson expects a design where user should be given an option to save or not save. If save is chosen, the object should be backed up by the user on the online server.
15:56 icarito you should really start from the old save dialog
15:56 add a 'don't save' option
15:56 the server backup should be independent of it
15:56 because servers are optional and unusual
15:57 and also becasue it is bad design to have that happen at save time imho
15:58 i.e. your UI should not block it should be a background process
15:58 iamutkarshtiwari https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]veOption_UtkarshT
15:59 Please have a look at the mockups I designed for Save As. ^
16:01 icarito here's some relevant discussion that should give us some timeframes
16:01 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ember/026459.html
16:02 iamutkarshtiwari thanks :)
16:07 We'll try to get in touch with Mr. Anderson tomorrow?
16:09 I think we are an hour past the meeting.
16:10 I need to leave now. Bye :)
16:10 #endmeeting
16:10 meeting Meeting ended Thu Jun  2 16:10:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4)
16:10 Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-02T15:15:13.html
16:10 Log:     http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-06-02T15:15:13
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