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14:56 | tony37 <tony37!~tony![]() |
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14:56 | tony37 | Hi, |
14:58 | Anybody home? | |
15:01 | Hello | |
15:03 | hello | |
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15:04 | iamutkarshtiwari | hi |
15:07 | hello | |
15:08 | #startmeeting | |
15:08 | meeting | Meeting started Sat May 28 15:08:30 2016 UTC. The chair is iamutkarshtiwari. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
15:08 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
15:11 | tony37 <tony37!~tony![]() |
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15:11 | tony37 | Hello |
15:12 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am sorry Mr. Anderson. I keep working while my browser is open in background. |
15:12 | tony37 | OK |
15:12 | iamutkarshtiwari | My freenode also doesn't make any notification sound on a ping. |
15:12 | tony37 | No problem. How are you coming with fiddler? |
15:13 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am sure that I can fix all the bugs you mentioned. |
15:13 | 2 are already fixed. 2 still left. | |
15:13 | Beautiful soup does prettyfy css I guess.. | |
15:13 | tony37 | We are certainly getting close. |
15:14 | iamutkarshtiwari | doesn't* |
15:14 | tony37 | It should - worth a try |
15:14 | iamutkarshtiwari | I had already tweaked fiddler to prettyfy the code (html + css + js). |
15:15 | But it seem that it doesn't work with css. | |
15:15 | Could you please suggest an alternative for that? | |
15:15 | tony37 | There is a newer version bs4 which is not installed on 0.106 but could be installed in parallel with BeautifulSoup. |
15:16 | iamutkarshtiwari | Does it support prettyfying css? |
15:16 | tony37 | I don't know - it has updated the feature adding a formatter option. |
15:17 | This could also be a good Google question | |
15:17 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll give it a try then. So we need to install bs4 manually in Sugar ? |
15:17 | As you said that it's not currently installed. | |
15:17 | tony37 | It generally goes in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages |
15:18 | iamutkarshtiwari | What about XO1? The one which you are using? |
15:19 | tony37 | Actually, right now I am using an XO-1.75. Normally my preferred version is XO-1.5 but the only one I have needs to be unlocked. |
15:19 | This works with all XOs - it is pure Python. | |
15:20 | iamutkarshtiwari | Mr. Anderson, we also need to talk about #nepal in detail. |
15:20 | tony37 | OK, but by email. You may want to send an email to Rabi directly on any questions about the arrangements there. |
15:21 | iamutkarshtiwari | I have already sent him one. |
15:21 | tony37 | Great! He usually responds from the office and often not immediately - be patient. |
15:21 | iamutkarshtiwari | I would be in constant need of internet there(for Gsoc work), will they be able to provide me for that? |
15:22 | tony37 | OLE Nepal has a team of 20+ in a big three story house with lots of internet. No problem |
15:23 | iamutkarshtiwari | haha :D oh..fine then.. All what's needed to be decided are the dates (9th june - 18th june) which is my only option. |
15:24 | tony37 | Work that out with Rabi. You aren´t leaving much time between the end of exams and getting on an airplane. |
15:24 | iamutkarshtiwari | If they comfortable with the above mentioned duration, I shall go ahead with booking flight tickets, else the tickets get costlier everyday at the time nears. :D |
15:24 | tony37 | Did you mention this to Rabi in your email? |
15:24 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes. |
15:25 | tony37 | OK - he should respond probably on Monday - in my experience |
15:25 | iamutkarshtiwari | Apologies for that. I don't want to delay my work on gsoc, so I am not even going back my hometown (directly to nepal and then back to college). |
15:26 | That's why I decided to leave as soon as the exams end. | |
15:26 | :) | |
15:26 | tony37 | I appreciate that but I think the trip to Nepal will advance your work and is a good investment of time |
15:26 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yes! |
15:26 | tony37 | Have you been able to sort out the ´zip' issue? |
15:26 | iamutkarshtiwari | I will learn a lot there from such experienced people. I was hoping to see you there. |
15:27 | Yes...was currently working on it when you missed me on irc. | |
15:27 | tony37 | Sadly, I am unlikely to get to Nepal until this Fall or in Spring of next year. |
15:27 | iamutkarshtiwari | I think I have figured out a solution. |
15:27 | ;) | |
15:27 | tony37 | I always have trouble with zip getting it to execute in the right directory |
15:27 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll let you know , how shutil works. to get the things in the right place. |
15:28 | tony37 | You really should give subprocess a try (as an alternative test). It is an invaluable tool for me. |
15:29 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll surely give it a try but I saw Ms. Sehgal make great use of shutil that's why I resorted to it. |
15:30 | tony37 | It is a tool internal to Python whereas subprocess launches a command as a separate process. Some people are uncomfortable with that. |
15:30 | However, to be able to execute any bash script or shell command from within Python is immensely powerful. | |
15:31 | iamutkarshtiwari | I agree. |
15:31 | That's the beauty of Python. | |
15:31 | tony37 | You have an alert for the save operation. Is that the same as you are using in screenshot? |
15:32 | iamutkarshtiwari | Nopes. For screenshot I have created a separate modal dialog popup. |
15:33 | tony37 | I really like the one in 'save', could it be used for screenshot? |
15:33 | iamutkarshtiwari | https://cloud.githubuserconten[…]-8991a8ea215a.gif |
15:33 | It looks like this ^ | |
15:34 | It's difficult to show such alerts throughout the Sugar, since user might want to take a screenshot in anyplace throughout sugar. | |
15:34 | and such alerts are only avaibale within activities. | |
15:35 | tony37 | OK. Still even for a screenshot, the prompt could appear at the top of the screen and be horizontal as it is in open. |
15:36 | I guess my concern is that Walter introduced an alert on quit which required the user to provide a description of the file which was | |
15:36 | generally considered overkill and was later removed | |
15:37 | iamutkarshtiwari | How would you like the 'save as' alert to look like? Like 'screenshot' modal dialog or like "save as' in fidder on close? |
15:37 | tony37 | I think the 'save' in fiddle alert would be super in 'save as'. Essentially the user is doing the same thing, giving a project a name |
15:38 | iamutkarshtiwari | Same choice! |
15:38 | tony37 | Exactly and the 'save' alert is not too wide (top to bottom) and so seems efficient |
15:38 | iamutkarshtiwari | But I personally feel that 'screenshot' should be a modal dialog as the community also supported it. |
15:39 | It's the same as what happens on Ubuntu when you capture a screenshot. | |
15:39 | tony37 | Remember that 'screenshot' was a case I mentioned in connection with the 'save as' where the user needs to be able to give a title directly and simply |
15:40 | iamutkarshtiwari | But it is not possible to show |
15:40 | tony37 | I think Ubuntu is a different case because there the screenshot is not a simple keyboard shortcut and allows for including the whole screen or a part |
15:40 | iamutkarshtiwari | screenshot as an alert since 'alert()' is only available in acitivity.py for activities. not thoughout sugar. |
15:41 | tony37 | By alert I only mean popping up the panel for the user to enter a name and answer yes or no |
15:41 | iamutkarshtiwari | In current Ubuntu, we can capture screenshot by pressing 'PrntSrc' key on keyboard. |
15:41 | Oh..I get it. | |
15:42 | tony37 | One screenshot enhancement which you should note and ignore - it would be nice to have an ability to crop and resize a screenshot probably |
15:42 | in Python using Imagemagick | |
15:43 | In many screenshots you are only interested in the toolbar or want to omit the toolbar | |
15:43 | iamutkarshtiwari | Is it possible to implement this in Sugar? |
15:44 | tony37 | Sure - it's Python |
15:44 | Actually, imagemagick is already installed | |
15:44 | iamutkarshtiwari | What user can do is, take the screenshot of the whole screen and then crop it via imageeditor. |
15:44 | tony37 | Right now I use gimp |
15:45 | But I see this as having a rectangular selection and a crop button. Another option would be set width or height (keeping aspect ratio) | |
15:45 | iamutkarshtiwari | So do you want me to modify my current code for 'screenshot' to allow user to crop the screenshot realtime? |
15:46 | tony37 | No - I want you to note and ignore. We need to get the features on the plate finished. Then we can consider new features or enhancements. |
15:47 | iamutkarshtiwari | Then I'll first get down to finishing 'screenshot' soon after my exam ends and after that get started with 'Save As' |
15:48 | tony37 | Right. |
15:48 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll update you with the newer version of fiddler with 3-4hrs. Please test it |
15:48 | tony37 | Meanwhile, I have gotten no one to respond to my question about download - the current existence of a download alert in Browse which is attempting to do the same thing |
15:48 | iamutkarshtiwari | and let me know. |
15:49 | tony37 | Will do |
15:49 | Do you know what I am talking about | |
15:49 | iamutkarshtiwari | The download Icon in Browse will let user view the download progress without needing to switch to journal. |
15:50 | community liked that feature a lot! | |
15:50 | I think you should also give it a try. | |
15:50 | tony37 | No, when Browse downloads there is an alert which appears and counts down the download and then shows 'OK' when it is completed |
15:51 | I have the sense that this is not working in the 'development environment'. | |
15:51 | iamutkarshtiwari | Are you talking about when we do download inside Browse activity (for eg...download activities from Sugar store using Browse) ? |
15:51 | tony37 | yes |
15:51 | iamutkarshtiwari | It works.. AFAIK |
15:51 | tony37 | I don't know what a Sugar store is but yes for ASLO |
15:52 | Ok, then why does your download not replace it? | |
15:52 | iamutkarshtiwari | Sorry I call ASLO - Sugar store :P |
15:52 | tony37 | I'm sensitive - I don't like to pay for software |
15:52 | iamutkarshtiwari | Could you please send me a screenshot of the download progress in browse you are talking about? |
15:53 | tony37 | Yes, it will be tomorrow |
15:53 | Incidentally, there is a parallel download progress shown in the Journal view | |
15:53 | iamutkarshtiwari | I am not able to figure.. I didn't see any such download progress alert in Sugar. there is just that when download terminated an alert popups up. |
15:54 | tony37 | The one in the Journal seems a better implementation. The one in Browse sometimes appears and sometimes doesn't. Sometimes it shows the download progress, At other times only the OK message |
15:55 | The progress does not seem to be based on real monitoring but a estimate which is often wrong | |
15:56 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll first have to see the ambiguities as you describe which can be only understood by the screenshots at your end. |
15:56 | tony37 | OK. |
15:56 | iamutkarshtiwari | Then only we can figure out a solution. |
15:56 | #Exam | |
15:56 | My exams are starting from Monday. I'll be a lot busier with studies. I would be difficult for me to be available on irc everyday but I'll keep pinging you regularly on email. | |
15:57 | tony37 | Agreed |
15:57 | Let me know as you did today when you have time for a meeting. Otherwise, we can skip it. | |
15:57 | Except Friday! | |
15:57 | iamutkarshtiwari | I'll try to work on screenshot during my exams. but progress might be little slow. |
15:58 | Sure thing! | |
15:58 | tony37 | Don't jeopardize your exams. There is a summer ahead. |
15:58 | iamutkarshtiwari | One more doubt. |
15:58 | tony37 | Go |
15:58 | iamutkarshtiwari | Have I made enough progress to be able to please Mr. Bender ? :( |
15:58 | tony37 | Yes |
15:58 | iamutkarshtiwari | As compared to other GSocers. |
15:59 | oh... :) | |
15:59 | tony37 | Yes - keep in mind he is directly mentoring some of the participants and so has much more detailed knowledge of what they are doing |
16:00 | iamutkarshtiwari | Is the fiddler nearing an end? |
16:00 | tony37 | I hope so - it is looking very useful as it is now. I tried most of the scenarios and they work fine. The show source page is very helpful. |
16:01 | Keep in mind that there will be a task to integrate it with the new Browse with WebKit2. That may not be trivial. | |
16:01 | iamutkarshtiwari | I feel that you can test it with kids in your location. |
16:02 | When will we be doing that integration part? | |
16:02 | tony37 | Not easily. Essentially I work on an annual cycle. My goal is to have a 'distribution' ready for the start of the next school year in the Fall. |
16:02 | Wait 'til the dust settles on the new version - probably late in the GSOC cycle if at all | |
16:03 | iamutkarshtiwari | Yeah..the webkit2 version seems a little buggy. |
16:03 | tony37 | It is very important but our current version of WebKit does not support many critical layout features of CSS3 |
16:04 | meant as not but | |
16:05 | iamutkarshtiwari | Will finish the bug fix today and will update you in 4 hrs. |
16:05 | tony37 | I need to go - will test your new browse tomorrow and try to get relevant screenshots |
16:05 | Bye | |
16:05 | iamutkarshtiwari | Sure. |
16:05 | Bye | |
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16:06 | iamutkarshtiwari | #endmeeting |
16:06 | meeting | Meeting ended Sat May 28 16:06:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
16:06 | Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-28T15:08:30.html | |
16:06 | Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]16-05-28T15:08:30 | |
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