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| 06:56 | inkyfingers | Is sweets distribution a complete non-starter in Debian? |
| 06:56 | FYI - I tested sweets distribution in Debian 6 and Wheezy and got a nice terse response, with no time wasting. Good :) | |
| 06:57 | -- Not supported GNU/Linux distribution, Debian-testing | |
| 06:57 | alsroot | inkyfingers: SD is available/tested only on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/P[…]ted_platforms#Map |
| 06:58 | for new adding new distros, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/P[…]platforms#Summary | |
| 07:00 | inkyfingers | alsroot: I did read those, just checking it out to further the cause :) |
| 07:01 | I guess I am on the "contact you" phase | |
| 07:01 | Would it be likely too hard for me to make any further progress? | |
| 07:02 | alsroot | inkyfingers: in fact, you need test SD packages, ie, just attach SD repo (sing sweets-distribution command or manually) and install SD packages |
| 07:03 | inkyfingers: what debian version you have in mind? | |
| 07:05 | inkyfingers | wheezy |
| 07:08 | alsroot: thanks for that, will give it a go - not today - and let you know how it goes. | |
| 07:09 | alsroot | inkyfingers: I'm too familiar w/ debian releases model, is wheezy a name for next stable release? |
| 07:09 | *I'm not too | |
| 07:09 | inkyfingers | yes, stable is Debian6, wheezy will be 7 |
| 07:10 | alsroot | when it is being planed to be stable, just curious? |
| 07:10 | inkyfingers | I think Debian6 has been going 18 months so could be due ... |
| 07:11 | but last time they did not put squeeze (6) stable for a full year after many thought it ready | |
| 07:13 | alsroot | inkyfingers: the one thing w/ SD repos is that they are built against stable distro versions. the process of putting distro updates is not assumed (that is how open-build-service works, the system that builds SD) |
| 07:13 | inkyfingers | I get the feeling there is a mind set of keeping them semi-stable, so that stable is really stable. |
| 07:14 | and OBS does not support Debian6? | |
| 07:15 | alsroot | it supports, but the problem is that debian is not the same level predictable (as, eg, ubuntu) and has a long releasing cycle. maybe I will try to add debian-7 repo.. |
| 07:15 | ie, debian6 might be too old for users | |
| 07:15 | ..if I'm getting it right | |
| 07:16 | inkyfingers | you sound right from what I learned so far. |
| 07:16 | I will test it on Squeeze 6 and let you know. | |
| 07:18 | alsroot: reverting to Traditional Sweets on my raspberry pi, | |
| 07:18 | what are the dependencies liberated by the -S option, which I cannot get in Debian Wheezy, on Rpi? | |
| 07:19 | Is there some other way to get the dependencies? | |
| 07:22 | alsroot | -S brings fructose and additional deps, eg, pygame |
| 07:23 | inkyfingers | so I installed pygame from Debian repos ... |
| 07:23 | should The Debian pygame be 100% compatible? | |
| 07:23 | alsroot | inkyfingers: you can use "sweets" command w/o -S and try to install deps (that activities need) from debian packages |
| 07:23 | for pygame, I think it should | |
| 07:24 | inkyfingers | depscheck did not seem to give me useful clues |
| 07:25 | If that is the way forward I will try that. | |
| 07:25 | alsroot | pygame in debian is named "python-pygame" |
| 07:26 | inkyfingers | almost certain it was |
| 07:27 | I will double check | |
| 07:30 | Yes: sudo apt-get install python-vte python-gst0.10 python-pygame | |
| 07:31 | From: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]st_report_Sugar_0.94 | |
| 07:32 | Python manual also mentions issues with hard float | |
| 07:33 | But that is on page 300, and I am only good to about page 60! | |
| 07:41 | "so I installed pygame from Debian repos ..." What I mean of course is the Raspbian hard float repos! | |
| 07:43 | I digress. | |
| 07:43 | the -S option is a general known issue for Debian. | |
| 07:44 | alsroot: where could I look for a list of deps liberated by the -S option. | |
| 07:45 | Then I would test that on a pc before the Rpi | |
| 07:45 | alsroot | inkyfingers: try `sweets status -d -S sdk/sugar:emulator` |
| 07:48 | inkyfingers | sorry, I do not have the machine going. I have two cards bricked trying ... |
| 07:48 | I think that is the command that should produce "e" lines - there were none. | |
| 07:51 | confirmed and tried -vdd - nothing negative is mentioned. | |
| 07:51 | It is as if -S is actually doing nothing at my end, | |
| 07:51 | alsroot | not "e" but "d", ie, download |
| 07:56 | inkyfingers | "e" as in instructions, Sweets Usage, see the e lines in the output. (That was me gathering my thought in where to find the result of the command: sweets status sdk/sugar -vdd -> nothing negative is mentioned. |
| 07:59 | ok I see your command is saying something differest | |
| 08:00 | I will try that suggestion when I've made a new card, thanks | |
| 08:18 | alsroot: http://www.fpaste.org/EF8L/ just tried it on a rather overful card | |
| 08:20 | alsroot | inkyfingers: try to install all deps from debian packages whose 1st symbol is different to "-" |
| 08:25 | inkyfingers: in case of debian packages in SD, I'm super busy this week w/ SN/HD. will take a look next week | |
| 08:26 | inkyfingers | alsroot: thanks - that will move me forward. Will not work on this over full card, will try on a nice clean one. Many thanks. and thanks re SD :) |
| 08:27 | alsroot | np |
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