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| 08:43 | meeting <meeting!~sugaroid jita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-newbies |
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| 17:50 | inkyfingers <inkyfingers!~webchatjita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-newbies |
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| 17:55 | inkyfingers | alsroot: Now I am running trisquel-5 ! :) Hoping to get sweets. I have only been trying for one hour, I have seen some clues on Google, but what does this error message say to you? Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" ? |
| 17:56 | alsroot | inkyfingers: where you got this error? |
| 17:57 | inkyfingers | Having tried sweets -S dextrose/sugar:emulator and what I call the six variants, sdk, -R, and vanilla |
| 17:58 | same error message for each command. | |
| 17:59 | alsroot | inkyfingers: thats the only error? could you pastebin the full output? |
| 18:01 | inkyfingers | It is the only thing I see that looks like an error. Sure - just a mo |
| 18:04 | This is a lot more than you want! - it includes everything since I started today! http://www.fpaste.org/X6e4/ | |
| 18:12 | alsroot | inkyfingers: what `apt-file update && apt-file search pk-gtk-module` command output? |
| 18:17 | inkyfingers | alsroot: at first attempt, sudo: apt-file: command not found |
| 18:18 | sudo: apt-file: command not found - and again! | |
| 18:18 | alsroot | inkyfingers: you need to install apt-file package |
| 18:19 | inkyfingers | alsroot: Mrs inkyfingers has been cooking - got it - thanks very much. Will return with results. Thank you :) |
| 20:09 | alsroot: I did not get the result I expected, sorry, http://www.fpaste.org/xMMw/ | |
| 20:12 | alsroot | it sounds like a mess in your system (one system package requires another one that doesn't exist at all). |
| 20:13 | inkyfingers: whats your /etc/apt/sources.list content? | |
| 20:18 | inkyfingers | rather long! - http://www.fpaste.org/MaRL/ |
| 20:19 | alsroot | hmm |
| 20:19 | inkyfingers: it seems to be an ubuntu 11.04 error then.. | |
| 20:20 | inkyfingers | I wish I could see through it all like you can !! |
| 20:20 | alsroot | will try to reproduce it in hos 11.04 env |
| 20:28 | in old 11.04 (not exactly trisquel-5), it works fine. will try to update the system | |
| 20:34 | on fresh 11.04, it is also ok. will try to upgrade 11.04 to trisquel-5 | |
| 20:54 | inkyfingers: oops, sorry. that error message is not critical (I'm getting it as well, but sugar start for me) | |
| 20:54 | inkyfingers: does Xephyr window blinks before aborting? | |
| 20:57 | inkyfingers | yes, well it almost tries to open for <0.2 seconds |
| 20:58 | alsroot | inkyfingers: that Xephyr issue. do you run trisquel in VM? |
| 20:58 | inkyfingers | no, I have not learned VM yet |
| 21:01 | alsroot: I downloaded trisquel-5, tested it, then decided to try to apt-get gnome-packagekit, and see what happens !! | |
| 21:02 | alsroot | inkyfingers: I got this problem in VM and it disappeared after switching to vesa video driver. but if your run trisquel in native working system, vesa vide driver is not so useful (I run it in VM). |
| 21:02 | you might google for Xephyr+Sugar.. | |
| 21:10 | inkyfingers | alsroot: seen - google for Xephyr+Sugar, maybe it will make sense in the morning ! :) |
| 21:12 | alsroot: I used to have to look out for video drivers, on this m/c - I have not checked them on this distro. I will try that tomorrow. | |
| 21:13 | alsroot | ok. just rechecked, xephyr start well in trisquel-5 env w/ vesa video drivers |
| 21:21 | inkyfingers | alsroot: from start button => Education => Sugar - same flashing attempt to open Xyphyr, but start button => Education => TurtleArt - opens TurtleArt !! |
| 21:22 | alsroot | it might work w/o sugar at all |
| 21:22 | inkyfingers | I cannot remember how to install vesa drivers only. ? |
| 21:23 | alsroot | inkyfingers: do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? |
| 21:25 | inkyfingers | it may be a keyring issue - stalling - can't get terminal for a mo |
| 21:26 | alsroot | in any case, for recent distro you shouldn't have it. you can place content of http://fpaste.org/iusS/ to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X |
| 21:27 | inkyfingers | I just entered the command sugar - and got a window !! - looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:28 | alsroot | running "sugar", your run pure sugar w/o Xephyr |
| 21:28 | inkyfingers | it is running, but I am a bit lost - have only one desktop !! |
| 21:29 | I have a frame running over this desktop. | |
| 21:30 | alsroot | inkyfingers: as I said, you run pure sugar in current desktop |
| 21:30 | it is useless anyway | |
| 21:32 | inkyfingers | not exist: /etc/X11/xorg.conf treying to kill sugar |
| 21:33 | alsroot | inkyfingers: place http://fpaste.org/iusS/ to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X |
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| 21:35 | inkyfingers_ | alsroot: I zapped myself ! |
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| 21:37 | inkyfingers_ | iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ ls app-defaults rgb.txt xorg.conf.vesa Xsession cursors X Xreset Xsession.d default-display-manager xinit Xreset.d Xsession.options fonts xkb Xresources Xwrapper.config iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ |
| 21:41 | xorg.conf.vesa looks properly configured | |
| 21:41 | I think I am lost, | |
| 21:42 | alsroot | inkyfingers_: `ln -s /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf` and restart X |
| 21:43 | inkyfingers_ | ln -s /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf - done |
| 21:44 | XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 7 requests (7 known processed) with 0 events remaining. iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ |
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| 21:44 | restart the box? | |
| 21:45 | alsroot | inkyfingers_: `rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf` and place content I posted before |
| 21:47 | inkyfingers_ | iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf - done |
| 21:50 | iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf - done - now to restart x, what? - last time I just did startx, and posted the output |
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| 21:51 | alsroot | inkyfingers_: if last didn't work, not sure if it will start this time. `rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf` and place http://fpaste.org/iusS/ content there |
| 21:52 | *if last time it | |
| 21:54 | "startx" should work | |
| 22:00 | inkyfingers_ | iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ ln -s /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': Permission denied iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf iainKM266-vi-trisquel:/etc/X11$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" |
| 22:01 | alsroot | inkyfingers_: you do not need to `ln` since /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa doesn't work. |
| 22:01 | inkyfingers_ | iainKM266-vi-trisquel:~$ sudo startx [sudo] password for iain: Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. |
| 22:01 | alsroot | just `sudo rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf` |
| 22:02 | and restart machine, then from X session, create new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and place there http://fpaste.org/iusS/ | |
| 22:03 | inkyfingers_ | That is what I have done - so will restart the box |
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| 22:11 | inkyfingers | so - I have 800x600 throughout, and sweets -R dextrose/sugar:emulator - produced a window ! |
| 22:11 | alsroot | inkyfingers: you might google for X/Xephyr bug.. in ubuntu 11.04 |
| 22:14 | inkyfingers | alsroot: will do - thanks for all your help :) |
| 22:14 | alsroot | np |
| 22:40 | IainBrownDo-3aa4 <IainBrownDo-3aa4!~urk87.114.153.172> has joined #sugar-newbies |
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| 22:40 | IainBrownDo-3aa4 | just testing ! |
| 22:44 | Now trisquel's "native" Sugar has started to work, now that I am running on vesa | |
| 22:50 | inkyfingers | bye Iain |
| 22:51 | IainBrownDo-3aa4 | bye inky |
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