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#sugar-newbies, 2011-12-09

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00:05 inkyfingers Just to recap, today's request for help:
00:05 I have 23:02] <inkyfingers> Now working on Debian 6 - with added only - deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
00:06 command: sudo apt-get install gnome-packagekit
00:06 alsroot inkyfingers: hmm, you mean w/o non-free it is impossible to install gnome-packagekit?
00:06 inkyfingers [23:06] <inkyfingers> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: [23:07] <inkyfingers> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libc6-dev : Breaks: gcc-4.4 (< 4.4.6-4) but 4.4.5-8 is to be
00:07 Thanks for response, please ask the question in a different way
00:08 alsroot inkyfingers: you didn't manage to install gnome-packagekit without addin "http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy" repo?
00:08 inkyfingers correct
00:09 that's where I started from on Monday!
00:09 alsroot inkyfingers: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
00:10 inkyfingers ok - current system is 4 hour old Debian 6 with 1 only added line - coming up ...
00:12 sorry - I am on some web-chat, cannot see a paste-bin :) - I cannot use my regular distro for this job. It is for work and others depend on it.
00:14 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
00:14 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
00:15 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
00:15 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
00:15 alsroot inkyfingers: ok, I just found that gnome-packagekit exists only in debeian testing. what you did w/ installing 6.0 (stable) and adding repo from debian testing most likelly is incorect
00:16 inkyfingers fine I can believe that
00:16 alsroot inkyfingers: so, Sweets on Debian-6 is not so useful. You need to use Ubuntu (or Ubuntu derivates like Mint/Trisquel)
00:17 makes a note on wiki
00:18 inkyfingers ok - I went first to Mint 11 - {fail} - install Mint 12 - multiple repository issue, which I could not understand.
00:19 I can write up my notes - where?
00:19 alsroot inkyfingers: I'm adding debian notes to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/P[…]pported_platforms
00:20 inkyfingers: for Mint, do you mean Mint-12 issue was before trying Sweets?
00:21 inkyfingers I mean, I only installed Mint 12 in order to test Sweets.
00:21 Mint-12 appeared to apt-get update fine
00:22 I tried over two days to install Sweets as per instructions and failed :(
00:23 W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubu[…]ary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]  W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/[…]ary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found  W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/[…]ary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
00:24 alsroot inkyfingers: did you add repositories to mint-12?
00:24 inkyfingers I did the ..
00:25 as noted ... where? - lloks
00:27 sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-proposed main universe'
00:28 Meanwhile - later ..
00:28 Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubun[…]ary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
00:28 alsroot inkyfingers: I fixed the issue on Sugar sweets level, you can remove all lines w/ "natty" from your /etc/apt/sources.list on mint-12, call "apt-get update" and try to follow Sweets install instructions
00:28 ..all lines w/ "natty-proposed"
00:29 inkyfingers I'm not going to do this tonight, but ...
00:29 alsroot np
00:30 inkyfingers Go back to Mint-12 ...
00:30 In GUI there are too many repositories - in the end I guess I added them all.
00:31 Is there a command to clear them back to default?
00:31 alsroot inkyfingers: not sure, if you post them all. I'll try to figure out if they are needed
00:34 inkyfingers I cannot manage another reboot now. I will study them and report back. ... or reinstall - I guess that install is garbage now!
00:39 -> bed
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02:00 inkyfingers <inkyfingers!~webchat@jita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-newbies
02:00 inkyfingers Have found the problem with Mint-12
02:01 oonly just seen it and not confirmed ...
02:01 Mint does not seem to have created my own home folder ...
02:02 This error as  last time ...
02:02 -- Cannot solve /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/s​ha1new=3609c88732be7be0144e77220861a08733dfd1d3 for building: Cannot find requireed implementations for http://sweets.sugarlabs.org/base/x11-libs
02:02 is because /home/iain/
02:03 alsroot inkyfingers: did you install gnome-packagekit?
02:03 inkyfingers does not exist ...
02:03 Yes.
02:03 alsroot inkyfingers: whats you current home dir?
02:03 inkyfingers .cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1ne​w=3609c88732be7be0144e77220861a08733dfd1d3 for
02:03 exists in /home !!!!!
02:04 alsroot inkyfingers: whats the output of `echo $HOME` command?
02:05 inkyfingers iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ echo $HOME /home/iain
02:07 BUT in GUI ...
02:07 alsroot inkyfingers: what is the output of `ps aux | grep -i packagekit`
02:07 inkyfingers iain@iain-KM266 /home $ ps aux | grep -i packagekit iain      2142  0.0  0.1   4444   784 pts/0    S+   02:07   0:00 grep --colour=auto -i packagekit iain@iain-KM266 /home $
02:08 alsroot inkyfingers: did you relogin after installing gnome-packagekit?
02:08 ..reboot
02:08 inkyfingers Linux iain-KM266 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux iain@iain-KM266 /home $
02:09 but the machine is vi not iain ... rebooting.
02:09 inkyfingers has quit IRC
02:13 inkyfingers <inkyfingers!~webchat@jita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-newbies
02:14 inkyfingers I half see it don't understand it
02:14 The machine has been named iain - I doubt I made that mistake.
02:15 One only error message during install
02:15 "Replace config file /etc/gnome/defaults.list ...
02:16 was modified by you or a script ...
02:16 keep current or new - I selected NEW.
02:17 alsroot inkyfingers: ok, what `ps aux | grep -i packagekit` outputs for now?
02:18 inkyfingers In the GUI - there is no dir iain,
02:18 iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ ps aux | grep -i packagekit
02:18 iain      1717  0.0  0.1   4444   784 pts/0    S+   02:17   0:00 grep --colour=auto -i packagekit
02:18 alsroot inkyfingers: are you in gnome?
02:19 inkyfingers I guess yes not KDE
02:19 alsroot inkyfingers: what `dpkg-query -l | grep packagekit` outputs
02:20 inkyfingers iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ dpkg-query -l | grep packagekit ii  gnome-packagekit                       3.0.3-2                                 Graphical distribution neutral software management tools ii  gnome-packagekit-data                  3.0.3-2                                 Data files for graphical distribution neutral software management tools ii  libpackagekit-glib2-14                 0.6.18-1                                Library for acc
02:21 alsroot inkyfingers: nothing more?
02:22 inkyfingers Did not count the lines - will come back#
02:23 file:///home/iain/.cache/0install.n​et/implementations/sha1new=058d1fa9​d3bac42f6c1d3ec7e8578c1c60c4ff4d/
02:23 Meanwhile ^ exists when viewed in browser
02:24 Printing from bottom of previous grep
02:24 ii  python-packagekit                      0.6.18-1                                PackageKit Python bindings
02:24 ii  packagekit-backend-aptcc               0.6.18-1                                C++ APT backend for PackageKit
02:24 ii  packagekit                             0.6.18-1                                Provides a package management service
02:25 ii  libpackagekit-glib2-14                 0.6.18-1                                Library for accessing PackageKit using GLi
02:25 ii  gnome-packagekit-data                  3.0.3-2                                 Data files for graphical distribution neutral software management tools
02:25 iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ dpkg-query -l | grep packagekit ii  gnome-packagekit                       3.0.3-2                                 Graphical distribution neutral software management tools
02:26 alsroot inkyfingers: what `ps axu | grep polkit` putputs?
02:27 inkyfingers iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ ps axu | grep polkit root       495  0.0  0.5  23580  3868 ?        Sl   02:10   0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd
02:27 iain      1420  0.0  0.8  28712  6472 ?        Sl   02:11   0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polk​it-gnome-authentication-agent-1
02:27 iain      1744  0.0  0.1   4448   776 pts/0    S+   02:26   0:00 grep --colour=auto polkit
02:27 end
02:28 alsroot inkyfingers: does `sweets -R sdk/sugar:emulator` starts sugar right now?
02:28 inkyfingers Its downloading
02:29 -- Cannot solve /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/s​ha1new=ef0016b7ac6ca69b1a19688e2534990479413d6a for building: Cannot find requireed implementations for http://sweets.sugarlabs.org/base/x11-libs
02:29 same error
02:29 It must be an install problem.
02:30 I can't see how /home/iain can exist ...
02:31 and not show in Nautilus
02:31 alsroot inkyfingers: what `ls /home` output?
02:31 inkyfingers iain
02:32 !!
02:32 alsroot so, thats good
02:32 inkyfingers: what `sweets -D sdk/sugar:emulator 2>&1 | grep -i package` outputs?
02:33 inkyfingers I asked the drive to be formatted - I did not zero it out.
02:33 I would have done that if I had known this existed last time, which I think it must have.
02:35 I will see tomorrow if these errors are *exact* match with previous install - looks like it.
02:35 sorry not looking ... coming
02:36 -- INFO (root) Scheduling new task: quitter -- INFO (root) Task 'quitter' stopping and waiting for '(<Blocker:Resolve PackageKit names>,)' -- INFO (root) Running set([Task(quitter)]) due to triggering of 'Resolve PackageKit names'
02:36 repeated 5x
02:37 alsroot inkyfingers: and nothing more?
02:37 inkyfingers iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ sweets -D sdk/sugar:emulator 2>&1 | grep -i package -- INFO (PackageKit) PackageKit dbus service found
02:38 then the repeating x5
02:40 iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ cd /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/s​ha1new=058d1fa9d3bac42f6c1d3ec7e8578c1c60c4ff4d iain@iain-KM266 ~/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1n​ew=058d1fa9d3bac42f6c1d3ec7e8578c1c60c4ff4d $ pwd /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/s​ha1new=058d1fa9d3bac42f6c1d3ec7e8578c1c60c4ff4d iain@iain-KM266 ~/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1n​ew=058d1fa9d3bac42f6c1d3ec7e8578c1c60c4ff4d $
02:41 alsroot inkyfingers: could you run `sweets -DD sdk/sugar:emulator >log 2>&1`, and upload "log" file content, eg, to using fpaste.org
02:41 inkyfingers It is not a Sweets problem - yes I will.
02:43 Tried that twice - the machine takes 12 seconds to give no response - starting system monitor to repeat
02:44 alsroot inkyfingers: it should create "log" file, you need to paste its content to fpaste.org
02:44 inkyfingers I know!
02:45 ran command again monitor shows CPU stable @ 14%
02:45 run command to 100% for 12 seconds
02:46 start monitor wait to stable shows 14%,
02:46 run command sweets -DD sdk/sugar:emulator >log 2>&1
02:46 monitor shows 100% for 12 seconds
02:48 It is not a Sweets problem
02:49 alsroot inkyfingers: Sweets/PK should find x11-libs packages or output error message
02:50 inkyfingers It is very odd for my name to get swapped for thw machine name
02:51 alsroot inkyfingers: machine name should not affect the fails w/ not founding x11-libs
02:51 inkyfingers: could you share "log" file content via fpaste.org
02:52 inkyfingers Sure - but I did not make that mistake during install - it has come from somewhere else before sweets.
02:52 Sure
02:54 can you give a command to get log
02:54 alsroot inkyfingers: use, eg, gedit: `gedit log`
02:55 inkyfingers coming ...
02:56 Paste #150561 by inkyfingers
02:57 alsroot inkyfingers: whats the url, I can't fine #150561
02:58 inkyfingers http://www.fpaste.org/qYiW/ - sorry!
03:03 alsroot inkyfingers: what `apt-cache show libx11-dev libfs-dev libice-dev libsm-dev libxss-dev libxau-dev libxcomposite-dev libxcursor-dev libxdamage-dev libxdmcp-dev libxext-dev libxfixes-dev libxfont-dev libxft-dev libxi-dev libxinerama-dev libxmu-dev libxp-dev libxpm-dev libxrandr-dev libxrender-dev libxres-dev libxt-dev libxtst-dev libxv-dev libxvmc-dev libxxf86dga-dev libxxf86vm-dev libdmx-dev
03:03 libdrm-dev libfontenc-dev libxkbfile-dev2 > /dev/null` outputs
03:09 inkyfingers Second one first: iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ libdrm-dev libfontenc-dev libxkbfile-dev2 > /dev/null libdrm-dev: command not found iain@iain-KM266 ~ $
03:09 Cannot lift output off terminal.
03:10 alsroot inkyfingers: sorry, thats one-line command, http://fpaste.org/YaKd/
03:11 inkyfingers please can you correct this for me: command | grep | gedit als
03:12 alsroot inkyfingers: just use the command from http://fpaste.org/YaKd/
03:15 inkyfingers machine works for 6 seconds to produce nothing! and repeated twice!
03:15 system monitor runs up to 100%
03:16 Its my dirty hard drive not sweets
03:16 I will dd the partion - in my sleep :)
03:17 alsroot inkyfingers: sorry, the wrong package seems to be libx11-dev, what `apt-cache show libx11-dev` says?
03:19 inkyfingers http://www.fpaste.org/gSkX/
03:21 alsroot hmm, what `pkcon resolve libx11-dev` says?
03:22 inkyfingers last line is : Available       libX11-dev-2:1.4.4-2ubuntu1.i386                X11 client-side library (development headers)
03:23 alsroot thats odd..
03:23 inkyfingers Four and only previous lines Resolving                     [=========================]          Starting                      [=========================]          Loading cache                 [=========================]          Querying
03:24 alsroot inkyfingers: could you run `sweets -DD sdk/sugar:emulator >log 2>&` once more and fpaste "log" file
03:24 inkyfingers The paths exist,  but do not exist . Yes will do.
03:25 iain@iain-KM266 ~ $ sweets -DD sdk/sugar:emulator >log 2>& bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'. will try again.
03:26 bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
03:26 alsroot sorry, the command is "sweets -DD sdk/sugar:emulator >log 2>&1"
03:27 inkyfingers Machine @100% for 10.5 seconds to produce nothing.
03:28 alsroot inkyfingers: you mean "log" file wasn't changed?
03:29 inkyfingers: it should be changed, could you fpaste it
03:29 inkyfingers There was no output on the terminal
03:30 http://www.fpaste.org/FJ2n/
03:32 alsroot inkyfingers: what is your arch
03:34 inkyfingers i686 - there is a smolt somewhere
03:35 Replace config file /etc/gnome/defaults.list ... was modified by you or a script ...will you keep current or new - I selected NEW.
03:35 alsroot inkyfingers: you just installed Mint-12 and didn't do some new installs?
03:35 inkyfingers Was the install error.
03:36 I fully upgraded.
03:36 The above was only error message.
03:37 alsroot inkyfingers: ok, I'll try to reproduce this error. though, never see this error before (and it works fine in my Mint-12 VM)
03:37 inkyfingers: thanks
03:39 inkyfingers alsroot: do you think the gnome message above is insignificant?
03:41 alsroot inkyfingers: it is not error, it just about installing new config or keeping the current one. installing new one is ok
03:45 inkyfingers alsroot: thanks good night
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11:13 inkyfingers <inkyfingers!~webchat@jita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-newbies
11:13 inkyfingers I see now that: Suggested packages:   packagekit-backend-apt packagekit-backend-smart
11:14 were not installed.
11:14 I have created: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/U[…]rs/Testing_Sweets
11:15 I will probably not return for 24 hours
11:41 inkyfingers has quit IRC

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