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| 08:18 | satellit_ | alsroot: did you fix the jabber? I do not see any xxxxxxjabber... names anymore on F1 neighborhood : ) |
| 08:19 | alsroot | satellit_: I've updated ejabberd version |
| 08:20 | satellit_ | neat thank you : ) |
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| 19:33 | revive | Hi, can anybody help with getting Tam Tam to work on Ubuntu-sugar-remix? |
| 19:34 | alsroot | revive: could you pastebin tamtam log |
| 19:34 | revive | I am very new to sugar |
| 19:35 | It si just saying "failed to start" | |
| 19:35 | alsroot | revive: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/B[…]gar_debug_logging |
| 19:35 | revive: you can find logs in ~/.sugar/default/logs/ directory | |
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| 19:37 | revive | Ok, will figure that out and come back. |
| 19:37 | There is a open bug in launchpad regardin this if you search for Tam Tam. Was hoping this has a known work-around | |
| 19:40 | alsroot | revive: do you mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu[…]-0.88/+bug/661855 |
| 19:40 | revive | Will tell you in a bit. I am in irc in Sugar (no multi-tabs) so am typing on second laptop |
| 19:42 | No, bug No. 502991 | |
| 19:43 | alsroot | revive: what is your arch? |
| 19:44 | revive | Linux mint 10 32, also tested on Ubuntu 10.10 64 with same results, Works fine on Fedora 14 Linux on stick (all on same Acer Aspire Laptop) |
| 19:45 | satellit_ | revive try trisquel-4.1-sugar it works in Virtualbox 4.0.4 Ubuntu 10.04LTS |
| 19:45 | revive | I am trying to get a robust USB stick for a community project on diverse hardware - so Mint is really what I want to get working |
| 19:46 | It is working well at the moment, except for Tam TAm | |
| 19:46 | satellit_ | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/C[…]ibutions/Trisquel |
| 19:47 | alsroot | revive: it might be lack of dependencies at the end, could you pastebin output of `ldd ~/Activities/TamTam*/common/Util/Clooper/*/aclient.so` command |
| 19:47 | satellit_ | are you using a live USB or install to USB |
| 19:47 | revive | Live USB with persistence |
| 19:47 | satellit_ | mu experience is that "live" USB are not robust |
| 19:48 | revive | Give me a sec - will get output of the command |
| 19:48 | satellit_ | overlay (persistence) fills up and it fails |
| 19:50 | revive | Here comes the long output: |
| 19:50 | mintmint ~ $ ldd ~/Activities/TamTam*/common/Util/Clooper/*/aclient.so /home/mint/Activities/TamTamJam.activity/common/Util/Clooper/linux32_508/aclient.so: linux-gate.so.1 => (0x003a1000) libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0x0095a000) libcsound.so.5.1 => not found libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x0056c000) libm.so.6 |
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| 19:51 | oops - it is chopping it to one line | |
| 19:51 | alsroot | revive: do you have only one "linux32_508" directory in /home/mint/Activities/TamTamJam.activity/common/Util/Clooper ? |
| 19:54 | revive | Yes, just the one, but also Linux32_510, Linux64_510, Linux64_508 |
| 19:55 | alsroot | revive: what csound version installed in your system? |
| 19:55 | revive | Cant paste the whole output of terminal - it chops off in the browser |
| 19:56 | Ooh - how do I check that from the terminal? | |
| 19:56 | alsroot | revive: `dpkg-query -l | grep -i csound` |
| 19:57 | revive | 1:5.12.1~dfsg-5rebuild1 |
| 19:58 | That is the lastest Ubuntu Repo version | |
| 19:59 | alsroot | revive: hmm, it should work. whats the output of `ldd /home/mint/Activities/TamTamJam.activity/common/Util/Clooper/Linux32_510/aclient.so` |
| 20:00 | revive | ldd: /home/mint/Activities/TamTamJam.activity/common/Util/Clooper/Linux32_510/aclient.so: No such file or directory |
| 20:02 | alsroot | revive: oops, `ldd /home/mint/Activities/TamTamJam.activity/common/Util/Clooper/linux32_510/aclient.so` |
| 20:03 | revive | A few lines to follow: |
| 20:03 | linux-gate.so.1 => (0x00df4000) | |
| 20:03 | libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0x005fa000) | |
| 20:04 | libcsound.so.5.2 => not found | |
| 20:04 | libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00110000) | |
| 20:04 | libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00820000) | |
| 20:04 | libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x002ac000) | |
| 20:04 | libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x002c8000) | |
| 20:05 | libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00527000) | |
| 20:05 | libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x001fb000) | |
| 20:05 | librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x007e6000) | |
| 20:05 | /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00d55000) | |
| 20:05 | That is all | |
| 20:06 | alsroot | revive: whats the output of "dpkg-query -L `dpkg-query -l | grep libcsound | awk '{print $2}'` | grep libcsound" |
| 20:08 | revive | A few line to follow: |
| 20:08 | IRC | |
| 20:09 | usr/share/doc/libcsound64-5.2 | |
| 20:09 | *wont post to irc with leading / so this is removed | |
| 20:09 | usr/share/doc/libcsound64-5.2/buildinfo.gz | |
| 20:10 | usr/share/doc/libcsound64-5.2/readme-csound5.txt | |
| 20:10 | usr/share/doc/libcsound64-5.2/AUTHORS | |
| 20:10 | usr/share/doc/libcsound64-5.2/copyright | |
| 20:10 | usr/share/doc/libcsound64-5.2/changelog.Debian.gz | |
| 20:11 | usr/lib/libcsound64.so.5.2 | |
| 20:11 | Thats it | |
| 20:11 | alsroot | revive: and you are not on x86_64? |
| 20:12 | revive | My PC is x86_64 but I have Mint 10 32bit installed |
| 20:14 | alsroot | revive: it seems to be the problem w/ lack of x86 blobs in tamtam .xo.. |
| 20:15 | revive | Ok. I am not highly technical - so wouldn't know how to file a bug approriately...... |
| 20:16 | This seems to affect all Ubuntu-sugar-remix installs | |
| 20:17 | satellit_ | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/C[…]tributions/Ubuntu how to install sweets |
| 20:18 | alsroot | revive: for now, you can copy http://people.sugarlabs.org/~a[…]p/linux32_511_deb files to ~/Activities/<TamTam-activity>/common/Util/Clooper/linux32_511_deb/ |
| 20:18 | revive | Will give that a go again - got a bit bamboozed by sweets the first time. |
| 20:19 | Will also try your second suggest - thanks a million. | |
| 20:20 | satellit_ | use 64 bit Ubuntu http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/C[…]ebian#Add_Sugar_0.88.1 |
| 20:21 | 32 bit does not work with sugar missing libraries I think | |
| 20:21 | revive | Have tested 64bit Ubuntu 10.10 with Ubuntu-sugar-remix. Same problem with Tam TAm |
| 20:22 | satellit_ | sorry I do not know then...have not tested it. dfarning left remix 1/2 finished and is on other projects now |
| 20:23 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar | |
| 20:23 | alsroot | revive: actually, for binary based activities (like tamtam is partially), the sutuation is really unsustainable in sugar |
| 20:24 | revive | Ok - Tam Tam is a killer app though, real interest for kids |
| 20:25 | alsroot | revive: the only way to be sure is using native packages from your distro or QAed activities from your sugar distributor (like OLPC) but it is only for stuff like XO deployments |
| 20:25 | revive: anyway, it needs to be improved in the future | |
| 20:26 | revive | Yeah - I am still feeling my way around. We have loads of computers and are trying to get off Windows |
| 20:26 | satellit_ | virtualbox works here: in ubuntu http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]on_Kit/VirtualBox#.3D.3D.3E_Trisquel-4.1-sugar_click_link_to_see_details |
| 20:26 | revive | That is where Ubuntu and mint is good |
| 20:26 | Hardware is easier to get working | |
| 20:27 | Orginisation is about digital inclusion - so really need something portable. Will have to do without Tam TAm for now | |
| 20:28 | satellit_ | http://www.oracle.com/technetw[…]nloads/index.html |
| 20:29 | revive | Have used virtualbox for other purposes before. May try that with Fedora install for static stations |
| 20:29 | satellit_ | works |
| 20:29 | alsroot | revive: the real problem is that most of sustainable things happen on sugar deployment side (like OLPC), ie, w/ shipping sugar on XO laptops. There is a lack of support for GNU/Linux distro |
| 20:29 | satellit_ | it is OS and hardware agnostic |
| 20:30 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]_on_all_platforms main link | |
| 20:31 | revive | Great, will have a look - thanks |
| 20:31 | satellit_ | i am on MacBook PRO i7 also works on netbooks running Ubuntu/Debian/ Windows XP etc |
| 20:32 | alsroot | revive: if you like ubuntu derivates and whant sugar in native env (ie not in VB) you can try Trisquel-4 LTS (based on ubuntu-10.04) |
| 20:33 | there is sugar up-to-date to the recent stable version and it works fine | |
| 20:33 | revive | Yeah will try Trisquel - just concerned with hardware support (they have stripped out all proprietary code) |
| 20:33 | Mint is working well - just the Tam TAm issue | |
| 20:33 | satellit_ | http://trisquel.info/en/download main link |
| 20:34 | live usb is made with ubuntu USB Startup Disk Creator and .iso | |
| 20:35 | has persistence works | |
| 20:35 | revive | Do you know if TAm TAm will work on this? |
| 20:36 | satellit_ | have not installed it to USB lately to test sorry |
| 20:37 | revive | OK - you can get me at info at reviveyourpc.ie if you want feedback on how I get on. |
| 20:37 | satellit_ | http://trisquel.info/ |
| 20:37 | revive | Thanks for the help |
| 20:38 | satellit_ | http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-create-liveusb |
| 20:38 | yw | |
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