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| 00:00 | alsroot | mulawa1: yup, and also activity.info content |
| 00:03 | mulawa1 | I've just posted the error log: pastebin.org/958501 |
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| 00:03 | mulawa1 | I've just posted the error log: http://pastebin.org/958501 |
| 00:03 | actvity.info next | |
| 00:06 | activity.info: http://pastebin.org/968561 | |
| 00:07 | sorry - got the log pastebin # wrong - brb | |
| 00:08 | error log: http://pastebin.org/968501 | |
| 00:09 | hard to copy&paste between machines :o) | |
| 00:09 | alsroot | mulawa1: you should have also activity.py file in your activity directory (according to exec from actiivty.info) |
| 00:10 | mulawa1 | coming up |
| 00:12 | activity.py: http://pastebin.org/968678 | |
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| 00:14 | mulawa1 | getting a coffee ... brb |
| 00:17 | b | |
| 00:19 | alsroot | mulawa1: well, not sure how code you posted should work but I just copypasted launch from maze activity http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/maze and it works, /me is pasterbining |
| 00:19 | mulawa1: activity.py http://pastebin.org/968827 | |
| 00:20 | mulawa1: after using activity.py I posted and having your code in test.py, it works in my case | |
| 00:21 | manusheel: and I also use olpcgames which is bundled to maze activity (don't have it installed in my system) | |
| 00:22 | mulawa1 | alsroot: trying your edit |
| 00:23 | may take a while - I'm not good with vi :o) | |
| 00:23 | I take it the only change is dropping the ":main" | |
| 00:25 | and when I check the 1st app it doesn't have the ":main" either !!!! | |
| 00:25 | thx a heap for yr patience and help ... | |
| 00:25 | is this the best way to get help as I stumble along my path to the perfect sugar app? | |
| 00:26 | alsroot | mulawa1: you can always ask wuestions here and on #sugar, also emaling to sugar-devel@ |
| 00:27 | mulawa1 | I started out at #sugar but kevix suggested here might be better |
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| 00:28 | mulawa1 | is that e-mail sugar-develsugarlabs.org ? |
| 00:31 | alsroot | mulawa1: nope, sugar-devellists.sugarlabs.org and you need to subscribe to it at first, http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel |
| 00:33 | mulawa1 | thx again - have made a copy of this extremely valuable interchange - off to do battle with vi |
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| 00:49 | mulawa1 | alsroot: hmm ... I spoke too soon |
| 00:49 | used your exact activity.py -> same error | |
| 00:50 | also I was confused between activity.info and activity.py ... | |
| 00:50 | I now see that my 1st app activity.py DOES HAVE the ":main" | |
| 00:51 | not sure where to go now ... | |
| 00:51 | alsroot | mulawa1: activity.info's exec passes activity.Activity class to sugar-activity, so you should have activity module(activity.py) and Activity class in it |
| 00:51 | mulawa1 | it seems to me that you did the test manually ... |
| 00:51 | is there instructions how to do that somewhere? | |
| 00:53 | and I'm afraid yr last post lost me ... remember I'm a n00b! | |
| 00:53 | alsroot | mulawa1: you can test my .xo, http://people.sugarlabs.org/~a[…]oot/tmp/Test-1.xo |
| 00:53 | mulawa1 | thx ... I'll give it a go |
| 00:53 | alsroot | mulawa1: what I changed is only new activity.py and bundling olpcgames (not sure is your versions the same) |
| 00:54 | mulawa1 | I just type that url into my sugar browser? |
| 00:54 | alsroot | mulawa1: yup |
| 00:54 | mulawa1 | here I go then |
| 00:58 | hmm ... installed ok but I still get the same error message! | |
| 00:58 | Let me try rebooting my SoaS box | |
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| 00:59 | alsroot | mulawa1: restart sugar will be enough |
| 01:00 | mulawa1 | I already tried that :o) |
| 01:00 | alsroot | mulawa1: could you pastebin test.foo-1.log, just in case |
| 01:01 | mulawa1 | sure |
| 01:02 | I'll just start up irc on my SoaS so I can copy & paste | |
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| 01:07 | mulawa1 | alsroot: requested error log: http://pastebin.org/969727 |
| 01:09 | alsroot | mulawa1: did you start my activity, looks like it starts system olpcgames, not bundled one |
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| 01:11 | mulawa1 | alsroot: I tried to but it said "failed to start" |
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| 01:11 | mulawa1 | alsroot: I just clicked on the new maze icon on my sugar desktop |
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| 01:12 | alsroot | mulawa1: hmm, afaik olpcgames was outdated and sugargames was created instead(though dunno about its status)... |
| 01:13 | mulawa1: all pygame activities I know are bundling olpcgames, you can do the same, uninstall it from yum and try Test once more | |
| 01:15 | mulawa1 | I'll need instructions how to do that ... sorry to be so useless but I've tried very hard to master all this stuff without help |
| 01:16 | alsroot | mulawa1: try to find out olpcgames package at first, in Terminal exec, `yum search olpcgame` |
| 01:16 | then just `sudo yum remove <package-name>` | |
| 01:22 | mulawa1 | all done except I had to use "become root" instead of sudo |
| 01:22 | now I try Test again? | |
| 01:22 | alsroot | mulawa1: yup, it should use bundled olpcgames |
| 01:22 | mulawa1 | restart 1st? |
| 01:22 | alsroot | mulawa1: no need |
| 01:23 | mulawa1 | ok brb |
| 01:24 | same error but many of the pathnames have changed | |
| 01:25 | alsroot | mulawa1: are these /home/../Activities/Test.activity/olpcgames? |
| 01:26 | mulawa1 | I'll post the log brb |
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| 01:28 | mulawa1 | http://pastebin.org/970085 |
| 01:29 | alsroot | mulawa1: hmm, try to rename activity.py to test_activity.py and Activity class to TestActivity (and so in acitivity.info) |
| 01:30 | mulawa1 | ok brb |
| 01:30 | alsroot | maybe "activity" interferes w/ olpcgames's names, though it works in my case |
| 01:31 | mulawa1 | hang on ... where will these files be since this was a normal sugar install? |
| 01:32 | alsroot | mulawa1: in ~/Activities/Test.activity |
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| 01:37 | mulawa1 | (blush) how do I get out of insert mode in vi? |
| 01:37 | alsroot | mulawa1: i |
| 01:38 | mulawa1 | that just adds "i" to my text |
| 01:39 | alsroot | mulawa1: so, you are already in insert mode |
| 01:40 | mulawa1: btw there could be other editors I guess :) | |
| 01:40 | mulawa1 | exactly - how do I get OUT of it - ie write my file and exit? |
| 01:40 | alsroot | mulawa1: <esc>:wq |
| 01:40 | mulawa1 | I used to use vi all the time but it's over 10 years ago! |
| 01:40 | ty | |
| 01:41 | ahh the magic Esc key | |
| 01:41 | all done time to try again | |
| 01:42 | same error ... trying a restart | |
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| 01:44 | mulawa1 | sorry ... no change |
| 01:45 | alsroot | mulawa1: btw, according to backtrace you launch Test w/ '-s' in activitiy.info's exec, though I didn't place it there, could you recheck |
| 01:46 | mulawa1 | ok |
| 01:47 | this is in your activity.info | |
| 01:47 | exec = sugar-activity activity.Activity | |
| 01:48 | I guess I need to change that? | |
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| 01:48 | alsroot | is confused totally, code shows that there is "-s" |
| 01:49 | mulawa1: could you pastebin recent log | |
| 01:49 | mulawa1 | ok |
| 01:50 | http://pastebin.org/970517 | |
| 01:51 | alsroot | mulawa1: ah sorry it seems that sugar sources are different, what is your sugar release |
| 01:51 | mulawa1 | brb |
| 01:52 | 0.88.0 | |
| 01:54 | alsroot | tries Test in his 0.88 |
| 01:58 | mulawa1 | ... |
| 01:59 | alsroot | mulawa1: heh, still works |
| 01:59 | mulawa1 | so what platform ru on? |
| 02:00 | alsroot | mulawa1: I'm running sugar in gentoo |
| 02:00 | mulawa1: I guess your probelm is soas local issue, I need to have soas to investigate this issue.. | |
| 02:01 | mulawa1 | forward them my e-mail - it states the problem very succinctly |
| 02:02 | it's still strange that my 1st app is still fine! | |
| 02:02 | alsroot | mulawa1: you mean fine right now? |
| 02:02 | mulawa1 | u bet - just checked! |
| 02:03 | alsroot | mulawa1: could you share .xo file |
| 02:03 | mulawa1 | there isn't one - I haven't got that far yet |
| 02:04 | alsroot | mulawa1: just run `./setup.py dist_xo` from activity root directory |
| 02:04 | mulawa1 | and how will that help - my 2nd app runs fine 4 u! |
| 02:04 | ok will try - not totally exhausted yet :o) | |
| 02:06 | alsroot | mulawa1: well, forget then :), anyway I need to have soas to check the whole picture |
| 02:08 | mulawa1 | no ... I'm learning lots! |
| 02:09 | but that should be python setup.py dist_xo | |
| 02:09 | alsroot | mulawa1: of course if you have setup.py in activity root directory |
| 02:10 | mulawa1 | so I've now "become root" - how do I back out of that? |
| 02:10 | alsroot | mulawa1: you don't need to be root, this command will just crate .xo file in dist/ sub directory |
| 02:11 | mulawa1: oops, just close Terminal | |
| 02:11 | mulawa1 | I realise that now BUT how do I back out of being root? |
| 02:11 | thx | |
| 02:12 | alsroot | ..and C-D also useful |
| 02:14 | mulawa1 | result of build http://pastebin.org/970517 |
| 02:14 | alsroot | mulawa1: you after you run `./setup.py dist_xo` you got this error? |
| 02:15 | *you mean | |
| 02:16 | ..or it just wrong pastebin | |
| 02:16 | mulawa1 | http://pastebin.org/970934 sorry still struggling in this environment |
| 02:17 | alsroot | mulawa1: that's fine output, you'll found .xo file in dist/ |
| 02:17 | mulawa1 | yes - upload it to my website 4u? |
| 02:17 | alsroot | mulawa1: yup, you can upload to wiki.sugarlabs.org for example |
| 02:17 | mulawa1: or just email | |
| 02:17 | mulawa1 | brb |
| 02:20 | http://mulawa.net/olpc/Spirolaterals-1.xo - understand this has a long way to go :o) | |
| 02:24 | and I also tried it on my other soas box and it worked fine! | |
| 02:25 | alsroot | mulawa1: runs fine, not sure what the problem difference w/ 2nd one |
| 02:26 | mulawa1 | exactly! |
| 02:28 | but u can see why the 2nd app is exploring screen sizes :o) | |
| 02:28 | or maybe its ok on yr setup? | |
| 02:28 | I'm using 1200x900 | |
| 02:29 | but my soas boxes are using 1024x768 - I think | |
| 02:30 | alsroot | mulawa1: well, both activities looks the same in my case |
| 02:31 | tries different screen sizes in sugar-emulatro | |
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| 02:32 | alsroot | mulawa1: btw I used custom code in story-builder activity to change scale, /me looks |
| 02:33 | mulawa1 | yes I plan to do that |
| 02:33 | ok ... what I need is someone who is familiar with the way I've worked (as per e-mail) to have a look | |
| 02:34 | and tell me if there's anything wrong with my steps | |
| 02:34 | and if there isn't ... to tell me why I get an error | |
| 02:35 | alsroot | mulawa1: btw whats the problem w/ continue coding 1st activity |
| 02:35 | :) | |
| 02:36 | mulawa1 | ru saying I'll be restricted to one activity for ever? :o) |
| 02:37 | alsroot | heh |
| 02:38 | mulawa1: btw pygame based activity w/ scaling I meant is http://git.sugarlabs.org/proje[…]y-builder-branch/ | |
| 02:38 | mulawa1 | ty |
| 02:39 | ty 4 all yr efforts - will u be able to put me in touch with someone who can help further? | |
| 02:39 | or should I float it on the mailing list? | |
| 02:42 | alsroot | mulawa1: dunno about who are pygames experienced people, I guess emailing to sugar-devel@ |
| 02:42 | mulawa1 | ok ... will do ... thx again ... bye 4 now |
| 02:42 | alsroot | np |
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| 15:13 | ishan | dfarning, ping |
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| 15:24 | dfarning | ishan, pong |
| 15:24 | ishan | dfarning, the bug almost solved |
| 15:24 | dfarning | ishan, nice |
| 15:24 | ishan | dfarning, i have done it presently for all the sections of the control pannel |
| 15:25 | do we need it for specific kanuguage section only? | |
| 15:25 | kanguage/language | |
| 15:25 | dfarning | ishan I think that it will be most correct if applyed to every section of the CP. |
| 15:25 | ishan | dfarning, +1 |
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| 15:28 | dfarning | ishan, one thing to consider is that bug reports generally only report a symptom. As a hacker it is you job to figure out the disease(cause of the symptom) and find a cure for the disease. |
| 15:28 | ishan | dfarning, okay |
| 15:34 | dfarning | ishan, In the open source development methodology there is no manager giving you a well defined problem with well defined constraints. Instead you are make an engineering decision based on trade offs. In this case the trade off is does the benifit of never have a user face a laptop that appears frozen out weigh the cost (in performance) of swithing a cursor every time you call a CP section.. |
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| 15:35 | ishan | dfarning, true |
| 15:35 | will keep that point in mind | |
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| 17:29 | ishan | alsroot, around? |
| 17:29 | alsroot | ishan: yup |
| 17:29 | ishan | alsroot, check http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2318 |
| 17:31 | alsroot | ishan: where are you stuck? |
| 17:31 | ishan | alsroot, i am not able to figure out the file |
| 17:31 | i think some code has to be added only by comparing it to frame file | |
| 17:33 | alsroot | ishan: what code you are looking for? |
| 17:35 | ishan | alsroot, i am looking for journal code which displays journal toolbar at the bottom of the window of journal so that i can compare it from journal code present in the homeview.py |
| 17:36 | alsroot | ishan: see frame.py file, it creates all frames |
| 17:36 | ishan | alsroot, okay |
| 17:39 | alsroot, isnt that file responsible for generating the frames on each side of window | |
| 17:39 | i am refering to journal toolbar at bottom which is always visible | |
| 17:39 | when we open journal | |
| 17:40 | alsroot | ishan: Frame class creates all frames including bottom |
| 17:40 | ishan | alsroot, okay |
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| 17:47 | ishan | alsroot, still cant find it. |
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| 17:48 | ishan | the bottom frame you are refering to is for the normal frame that appears in sugar window not for journal according to me |
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| 17:49 | alsroot | ishan: got it, then look to src/jarabe/journal all journal related code are there |
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| 17:51 | ishan | alsroot, okay |
| 17:53 | shan1 | alsroot, i am working on bug 1442..how does one check compatibilty of activities with sugar versions?...is there some documentation available on which activity version compatible with which sugar version?... |
| 17:55 | alsroot | shan1: the problem is that it doesn't impelmented in current sugar at all, afaik |
| 17:55 | *isn't | |
| 17:57 | shan1: the only source could be ASLO, each actiivty version on ASLO has compatibility range | |
| 17:57 | shan1: and satellit_'s list of actiivty | |
| 17:57 | .ies | |
| 17:58 | shan1 | what exactly id an |
| 17:58 | ASLO? | |
| 17:58 | is* | |
| 18:02 | okay got it | |
| 18:02 | dipankar | alsroot, hi, busy? |
| 18:03 | alsroot | dipankar: nope |
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| 18:04 | dipankar | alsroot, I am working on this bug : http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1742 |
| 18:06 | alsroot, I am having trouble with understanding the comment by timclicks | |
| 18:07 | alsroot | dipankar: well, not sure as well |
| 18:09 | dipankar | alsroot, As far as I could figure out, When I click on add as friend, it should send a message |
| 18:10 | that menu needs to be updated accordingly | |
| 18:11 | alsroot | dipankar: agree w/ last statement |
| 18:11 | dipankar | alsroot, how should I search for the menu? |
| 18:12 | alsroot | dipankar: but there is no need in search, just keep created menu item |
| 18:12 | dipankar: anyway self.menu is regular gtk.Menu | |
| 18:16 | dipankar | alsroot, oops, I meant how to search for the code for the menu in neighbourhood view? |
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| 18:18 | alsroot | dipankar: see src/jarabe/desktop dir |
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| 18:20 | dipankar | alsroot, thanks |
| 18:20 | alsroot | dipankar: homewindow.py in access point |
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| 18:21 | dipankar | ok |
| 18:24 | alsroot, :( I am not getting where the code for menu is.. | |
| 18:24 | the menu for adding friend in network view | |
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| 18:24 | alsroot | dipankar: but it is the same BudyMenu class |
| 18:27 | dipankar: BuddyMenu is a palette for BuddyIcon, BuddyIcon is being used as buddy representation | |
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| 18:28 | dipankar | ok.. |
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| 18:34 | dipankar | alsroot, from my investigation (preliminary) this function is not working: friends.get_model().has_buddy() |
| 18:34 | * from buddymenu.py | |
| 18:35 | alsroot | dipankar: dunno, in case it works fine, e.g. try to add new friend and restart sugar |
| 18:35 | *in my case | |
| 18:36 | ..has_buddy() will work fine in F1 view | |
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| 18:37 | dipankar | alsroot, ohk.. |
| 18:37 | alsroot, sorry about my last statement | |
| 18:38 | alsroot, it means that the func is working. | |
| 18:38 | but it needs restart | |
| 18:38 | alsroot | dipankar: yup, that was talking about recently :) |
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| 18:40 | dipankar | alsroot, then is there any way I can send the update of the friend added without restart? |
| 18:41 | alsroot | dipankar: but do you need to send any updates? why not just checking friend status on every popup and change menu item accordingly |
| 18:42 | dipankar: you can override Palette.popup in BuddyMenu to add this check | |
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| 18:46 | dipankar | alsroot, I am unable to find popup |
| 18:46 | at BuddyMenu.py | |
| 18:46 | alsroot | dipankar: it is in its parent class - Palette |
| 18:49 | dipankar | alsroot, do you mean props instead of pops? |
| 18:51 | alsroot | dipankar: it is Palette.popup() |
| 18:52 | dipankar | alsroot, I think I am not looking at correct place |
| 18:53 | alsroot, is it in jarabe/view/ | |
| 18:53 | alsroot | dipankar: nope, Palette class is in sugar-toolkit |
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| 18:55 | dipankar | alsroot, I think I will continue this tomorrow. :) Its getting late here. |
| 18:55 | alsroot, thanks for your pointers and support. | |
| 18:56 | is singing off | |
| 18:56 | alsroot | yw |
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| 19:02 | shan12 | walterbender, i m working on http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1858 |
| 19:03 | walterbender | shan12: are you the one who submitted a patch last week? did you see my comment? |
| 19:03 | is happy to have more people working on the TA codebase :) | |
| 19:06 | shan12 | walterbender, yes i did submit the patch, some changes are to be made for the UBUNTU platform, since ZOOM_FACTOR isn't defined there.right?.?...:-) |
| 19:06 | walterbender | shan12: yes. exactly. |
| 19:07 | shan12: you may want to look set a global based upon the result (or failure) of the import | |
| 19:09 | shan12 | so basically an exception hadler would solve it, where in if ZOOM_FACTOR could not be imported, then ZOOM_FACTOR should have the default value of 1.0 ... |
| 19:09 | walterbender | shan12: I think so |
| 19:12 | shan12 | okay, i did the same, and will be resubmiting the patch...:) |
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