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#sugar-newbies, 2010-09-18

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13:14 shan alsroot: i am currently working on bug 1442, could u please provide pointers on how to compare a version no. of an activity and sugar?
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13:19 shan the version no. of an activity is a single number. while sugar version no. is in form x.y.z
13:24 manusheel alsroot: Hi Aleksey.
13:24 Around?
13:29 dfarning shan,  can you try logging into http://www.activitycentral.com/ with the user name shan
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13:33 shan dfarning : i have logged in.
13:34 dfarning shan can you update your personal information and reset your password..... to make sure everything works.
13:39 shan, I guess your can oly reset your password. not modify your user infomarion
13:43 shan dfarning, i will reset the password and go thru the site.
13:44 dfarning shan, and then verify that you can register time by just addin and hour of time worked to the USR project with the bug number as the comment.
13:44 shan, I will then verify that the reports are working.
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13:50 shan logging onto my laptop
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13:56 shan_ dfarning: there seems to some problem with time registration
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13:58 ishan dfarning, hi
13:58 dfarning shan_, ok I am looking
13:58 ishan, hellp
13:58 ishan dfarning, sure
13:58 dfarning ishan, oops hello:)
13:59 ishan dfarning, hi
13:59 no problem
13:59 dfarning, check http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1742
14:00 dfarning ishan, looking
14:01 shan_ dfarning, some problem in the phase and activity fields.
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14:02 dfarning ishan, this issue here has to do with signals and callbacks with are part of gtk
14:03 ishan, take a look at http://library.gnome.org/devel[…]-tutorial/stable/
14:04 ishan, particularly paying attention to the stuff on signals, callbacks, and events.
14:04 ishan dfarning, the problem i am facing is that i am not able to identify the file responsible for F1 and F2 view
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14:06 dfarning ishan, look in jarabe/desktop
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14:07 ishan dfarning, looking in the same folder
14:07 i have figured out it to be favouriteview.py and groupbox.py
14:07 could you recheck it?
14:09 dfarning shan can you try again?
14:09 ishan, what about networkview and friendview.
14:10 ishan, but yes you are on the right track.
14:11 ishan dfarning, i dont think so since they dont import buddymenu.py file which is responsible for displaying the buddy menu when you right click
14:11 mukul hi alsroot
14:14 hi dfarning
14:14 dfarning mukul, hello
14:14 mukul I wanted to know the hard disk size of a default XO
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14:15 shan_ dfarning: for a meeting cum development would two entries be made??
14:16 dfarning shan_, it is either meeting or hacking:)
14:17 ishan is away
14:18 mukul dfarning, I was working on sl#630. When I see the code, I found that if less than 50 mb is left free then the "Journal Full" Modal Dialog appears. I want to give a %memory available feature.
14:18 shan_ okay
14:18 dipankar dfarning, hello
14:19 dfarning mukul, see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware and look around for SSD strorage I think that it is about 4G.
14:19 shan_ dfarning: is there a documentation available for activity and sugar version compatibility??
14:20 dfarning dipankar, hello
14:20 dipankar dfarning, how are you doing?
14:20 shan_ dfarning: as in which activity works with which minimum sugar version.
14:21 dfarning shan_, I don't think there is any documentation.
14:22 shan_, I would try asking alsroot, simon, or bernie on #sugar
14:22 shan_ dfarning: okay
14:22 dipankar dfarning, I was trying to make a proper patch for the gsm fix
14:23 dfarning, I tried looking up for network.py in source/jarabe/model/
14:24 dfarning, I found it not updated, although I downloaded it using "apt-get source sugar-0.88"
14:26 dfarning dipankar, was the patch commited in LP?
14:27 dipankar dfarning, just a sec, checking
14:28 ishan is back
14:29 dipankar dfarning, no. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu[…]-0.88/+bug/614394
14:29 it was not committed
14:29 ishan dfarning, have i identified the right files?
14:29 dipankar dfarning, I think I was not clear.
14:30 dfarning, What I meant was the gsm functions are not there in the source code that I downloaded.
14:30 *which I need to modify
14:32 dfarning ishan, The best way to figure out is to try to trace the code and figure out the various files do.
14:32 ishan dfarning, okay
14:33 dfarning dipankar, I am confused what are you asking?
14:33 ishan is away
14:33 dipankar dfarning, let me paste the files
14:35 dfarning, this is on my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495920/
14:36 dfarning, this is what is there in the source: http://paste.ubuntu.com/495922/
14:38 dfarning dipankar, ok, so the problem is that you are looking at two different versions of the file?
14:38 dipankar dfarning, yes :)
14:38 dfarning dipankar, and you are trying to figure out where they are coming from.
14:39 dipankar dfarning, sort of
14:39 dfarning dipankar, this is on of the most confusing things for a developer to keep straight when working on multiple systems/version.
14:40 dipankar dfarning, ohk
14:41 dfarning dipankar, where are the files on your system.
14:41 dipankar dfarning, /usr/share/pyshared/jarabe/model/network.py
14:42 shan_ brb
14:42 dfarning dipankar, which os and version are you using?
14:43 dipankar dfarning, Ubuntu 10.04
14:43 dfarning, all packaging config are on this system
14:44 dfarning, I tried moving on to 10.10, but net was not working on it
14:44 *net-> internet
14:44 dfarning dipankar, ok all of our recent packaging work has been on ubuntu 10.10 so the new packages will only show up there.
14:45 dipankar dfarning, ok
14:45 dfarning dipankar, in 10.04 you are seeing a rather old versions.
14:46 dipankar, so you will have to work in 10.10 to work with recent versions of sugar.
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14:46 dipankar dfarning, the only problem is internet is not working on it
14:48 dfarning dipankar, What is the exact problem on 10.10?
14:49 dipankar dfarning, last time I tried working on the systems (both laptop and desktop), internet was not working properly
14:49 the speed was extremely low even if it connected
14:49 I also tried changing server to india
14:49 dfarning dipankar, what type of network connector do you use?
14:50 dipankar, inferface device?
14:50 dipankar dfarning, I used VMware for Ubuntu 10.10 on Windows 7 pro
14:50 I have both a 3G datacard and home ADSL
14:50 *currently Home ADSL is down
14:50 :(
14:52 dfarning dipankar,  I don't know anything about running linux in a VM on widows.
14:53 dipankar, I suggest running linux as dual boot.
14:54 dipankar dfarning, sure. Its just that it takes time to take data back up and again 10.10 in testing :P
14:54 dfarning, but for the time being, can I download the maverick source and modify it?
14:56 dfarning dipankar, I would not suggest it.... it is just going to get more confusing.
14:58 dipankar, how does it take time? just log into ubuntu 10.10 when you get to work and stay in it.  Better yet log into ubuntu 10.10 in the morning and never log out.
14:59 dipankar dfarning, No not that, I meant in taking back-up of all data :)
15:00 its all scattered here and there
15:02 dfarning dipankar, ahh yes.... that is just going to take some time to establish habits that work for you.
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15:04 dfarning dipankar, do you have access to sunjammer?  It is very handy to use filezilla from various OS's and machines for storing stuff in a common locatation.
15:06 dipankar, can you send me your pubkey? I'll create and account on sunjammer for you.
15:10 dipankar dfarning, just a sec
15:10 ishan dfarning, http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2195
15:11 dfarning ishan, yes
15:12 ishan dfarning, i am able to reproduce the bug
15:12 can you provide me any pointers?
15:12 dipankar dfarning, I have sent it to you through mail
15:14 dfarning ishan, was someone else working on this earlier?
15:14 ishan dfarning, kandarp sir was working on it earlier
15:15 dfarning ishan, ok then lets leave it for him.  he has already figure most of it out.
15:15 ishan dfarning, okay
15:17 dfarning dipankar, what is your prefered email?
15:17 dipankar dfarning, dipankar@seeta.in
15:20 dfarning dipankar, can you check your email for a wecome message and try to ssh into sunjammer.sugarlabs.org ?
15:20 dipankar dfarning, sure
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15:27 dipankar dfarning, can you provide me the address where I should ssh into?
15:27 dfarning dipankar, sunjammer.sugarlabs.org
15:28 dipankar, or i think shell.sugarlabs.org also works.
15:28 dipankar dfarning, ok, now I am into sunjammer: dipankar@sunjammer
15:29 dfarning dipankar, ok so this is now you own shell account on sunjammer.  Anything you put there will always be available.
15:30 dipankar dfarning, ohk, a type of online file-upload section?
15:30 dfarning dipankar, it is the exact same thing as a terminal on linux.
15:31 dipankar, anything you can do on a ternimal you can do on sunjammer.
15:31 dipankar ohk.
15:32 dfarning dipankar, it is really handy to use sftp to storestuff on sunjammer that you might waht to access for more than one machine.
15:33 dipankar, filezilla is a handy tool for transfering files to sunjamer for anywhere.
15:33 dipankar, can you install filezilla and make sure you can uploadsomething?
15:35 dipankar dfarning, I use filezilla often
15:35 :)
15:35 For some or other work
15:37 dfarning, I will be right back, Going for dinner
15:37 dfarning dipankar, ok then just set it up as normal but make sure the server type is SFTP and the login type is normal.  this will allow you to log in
15:37 dipankar, see you.
15:38 dipankar dfarning, ok, will keep that in mind
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15:41 dfarning manusheel, do you have an account on sunjammer?
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15:42 manusheel dfarning: No. Let me send you mine ssh key.
15:42 dfarning manusheel, thanks and what is you prefered username and email address?
15:43 manusheel dfarning: username : manusheel   e-mail address - manu@seeta.in
15:43 neeraj dfarning: hi :)..
15:43 dfarning neeraj, hello
15:44 neeraj I was working on control panel issue. After seeing the reply on sugar-devel, i read about gtk iconview and also studied the gui.py closely.
15:44 here is anish reply http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ember/026558.html
15:44 dfarning neeraj, cool that will be an important fix.
15:45 neeraj dfarning: now the bug which anish is talking about here looks like this
15:46 dfarning neeraj, I don't think the iconview had been created when sugar was first written.  so the orginal sugar developers tried to create a iconview from scratch
15:46 neeraj http://people.sugarlabs.org/an[…]eenshot-Table.png and the code for this is here
15:46 http://people.sugarlabs.org/~a[…]el-center-test.py
15:48 dfarning: yes. When I looked at the gui.py file then http://paste.ubuntu.com/495948/
15:49 In the line 236, there is a function get option. In this we store the detail of each icon in cpsection in the options variable
15:51 dfarning: now if you see the _setup_options , particularly line 144 in the pastebin link
15:52 we are passing the each option from the options in sectionicon(gtk eventbox)
15:53 dfarning neeraj, yes
15:53 neeraj and then accordingly we are passing things(section icon) in the table below
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15:54 neeraj Now I even treid to rename the items in the cpsection, and tried the reprodule the bug.
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15:55 dfarning neeraj, http://faq.pygtk.org/index.py?[…]ile=faq19.020.htp has a good example of using iconview.
15:56 neeraj,  i have to run to an appointment for ~2 hours.
15:56 neeraj http://imgur.com/W4eXa.png
15:57 dfarning neeraj, the fix you are working on might require a prettry significant rewite of the control panel.
15:57 neeraj dfarning: ok. np I will discuss it later with you. I have read about gtk icon view but I am not sure how to reprobule the bug in control panel
15:57 dfarning: yes. That I understand. :)
15:58 dfarning neeraj, no need to try to reprodue the bug.
15:58 neeraj, just rewrite the control panel using iconveiw instead of the custom layout:)
16:00 neeraj dfarning: hmm.. ok.. Will come back after dinner..
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16:18 anurag alsroot: From where can I download older versions of activities for working on the patch #2164..?
16:28 manusheel anurag: Hi Anurag
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17:18 manusheel ishan: http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.or[…]view.home.MeshBox
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17:18 ishan manusheel, it shows no page present
17:21 manusheel ishan: Let me check the file. This is the package name.
17:22 ishan manusheel, sir okay
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17:49 shan manusheel, sir i stil could get any info on the activity version/ sugar version compatibiltiy thing..
17:50 manusheel shan: Can you come at #sugar?
17:50 shan manusheel, i am already there
17:52 manusheel shan: Can you google this up a bit.
17:52 ?
17:52 shan yes...
17:52 manusheel shan: Let us share notes in 20 mins. Searching a file.
17:53 shan ok
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17:55 neeraj shan: can u tell me the bug number on which you are working ?
17:57 shan 1442
17:58 dfarning manusheel, can you try sshing into sunjammer.sugarlabs.org ?
17:58 manusheel dfarning: Sure.
18:01 dfarning: Is the password a blank space?
18:02 dfarning manusheel@sunjammer.sugarlabs.org
18:02 manusheel dfarning: An application wants access to my private key on sshing.
18:02 dfarning: Yes. I did that.
18:02 ssh manusheel@sunjammer....
18:02 neeraj shan: couldn't find any link related to it. Please ask on #sugar
18:03 dfarning manusheel, what application whats access to your private key?
18:04 manusheel dfarning: The application is not specified. The purpose seems to be to unlock the private key.
18:04 shan neeraj, okay thanks anyway....:)
18:04 dfarning manusheel, what os are you using?
18:05 manusheel dfarning: Fedora
18:05 13
18:06 dfarning manusheel, ok then you might get a notice about a keyring wanting access to your private key.
18:06 manusheel dfarning: I said yes too. Now, it wants a password.
18:07 dfarning manusheel, try your log on password.
18:07 to unlock the keyring.
18:08 manusheel dfarning: Did try that too earlier.
18:08 dfarning: Didn't work.
18:08 dfarning manusheel, ok did you use a password to sigh your private key when you created it?
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18:08 dfarning sign
18:08 manusheel dfarning: No, absolutely not.
18:09 dfarning manusheel, anybody else using fedora 13 there fight now?
18:09 right.
18:10 manusheel dfarning: Yes. Shan and Anurag are using Fedora 13.
18:11 dfarning manusheel, ok I'll work with them to set up their accounts on sunnjammer and that way you can make sure everything looks the same ofr all of you.
18:12 shan, can you ssend me your private key so I can create an account fo you on sunjammer?
18:12 anurag, ^^ can you also send me your private key?
18:13 anurag dfarning: sure
18:18 manusheel dfarning: Sure. That would be great.
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18:28 dfarning anurag, how are you coming on the private key?
18:28 anurag dfarning: I am working through it presently
18:29 dfarning shan, ping ^^
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18:30 shan dfar
18:31 dfarning: sorry abt tht, i am too working on ti
18:31 it*
18:31 dfarning shan, thanks
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18:35 dfarning ayush__, can you send me a copy of you private key?
18:36 ayush__, what is your last name and preferred email address?
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18:37 anurag dfarning: His internet connectivity is very unstable today , so may be he's not getting your messags
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18:38 dfarning anurag, yes one of the reasons for setting up accounts at sunjammer is to set up an irc proxy for everyone.
18:39 anurag dfarning: ok thats great
18:47 dfarning: Manusheel would be sending you my private key soon
18:47 dfarning anurag, can you send it?
18:48 silbe anurag: I hope you mean public key, not private key? Nobody else should have your private key.
18:49 anurag Yes i mean the "rsa id.pub "   public key
18:49 silbe ok, good :)
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18:51 silbe BTW, do you all have PGP keys? If not, it's a good time to create them and do keysigning with anyone you meet (physically, so you can verify their identity).
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18:53 dfarning anurag, can you try sshing into sunjammer.sugarlabs.org
18:53 manusheel, i think we lost ^^
18:54 manusheel dfarning: Yes, some network issue at Anurag and Ayush's place.
18:55 dfarning silbe, I was going to set up a gpg key signing for later this week.
18:58 shan manusheel, i sent u the key
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19:07 dfarning shan, will you send me your public key?
19:08 shan yes, gimme a min, sending it to manusheel sir..
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19:28 silbe dfarning: nice!
19:30 dfarning: FWIW, we run our own keyserver on keyserver.sugarlabs.org (part of the keyserver network, so if you upload your key on our server it can be downloaded from all others and vice versa)
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19:33 shan sorry abt the gap, net got disconnected
19:36 dfarning shan, no problme I was out side with my dog:)
19:37 shan dfarning, okay:) you got the key?
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19:39 dfarning shan, yes and what is your last name
19:40 shan Jajmann
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19:43 dfarning shan, got it one minute.
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19:55 dfarning shan, can you try looking into sunjammer.sugarlabs.org with the username shanjit ?
19:55 shan dfarning, sure
19:57 there is one picture on the main screen thats it...
19:58 dfarning shan,  please try to ssh into sunjammer.
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20:00 shan dfarning, ok got in
20:00 dfarning shan, cool can you verify the you can setup up filezilla to upload something to sunjammer
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20:16 shan dfarning, i get following error http://pastebin.com/ei65z0zZ
20:17 dfarning neeraj can you try to ssh in
20:18 shan,  are you testing filezilla?
20:18 shan yes
20:18 i get http://pastebin.com/ei65z0zZ as error when connecting..
20:21 dfarning shan all connection to sunjammer are encrypted.  so you will have to set the ServerType to SFTP instead of FTP and set the LoginType to normal.
20:22 shan dfarning, okay
20:24 dfarning ayush, can you send my your public ssh key so I can set up an account on sunjammer for you?
20:25 shan dfarning, got it
20:26 dfarning shan, nice. should I change your username on achievo to shanjit so everything is consistant?
20:26 shan dfarning, yes that would be fine. thanks
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20:28 dfarning shan, ok can you log into www.activitycentral.com and change your password?
20:28 shan sure.
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