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#sugar-newbies, 2010-09-11

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00:37 MephistoM <MephistoM!~mykmak@70.25.20.46> has joined #sugar-newbies
00:39 MephistoM does anyone know how to add more activities to the ISO miribelle for virtual box
00:58 alsroot MephistoM: install them from http://activities.sugarlabs.org/
01:15 MephistoM do you install them right from the emulator alsroot?
01:16 satellit_ MephistoM: browse application top right of start new screen: "activities" to download new activities
01:17 140+ available
01:17 here is list of tested http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]vity_Test_Results
01:20 Mephistom you can also install from running CD with http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ZyX-LiveInstaller to a 8Gb USB or USB HD
01:21 make your own stick...
01:21 need to boot from CD first for this
01:22 MephistoM we're using them strictly without the stick
01:22 satellit_ ok
01:23 MephistoM we want to run sugar on the laptop, not the XO
01:23 possibly netbooks
01:23 so that younger nad older kids can use them
01:24 I've been able to install sugar through the emulator already
01:24 but miribelle has very few activities
01:24 so I was interested in finding out how to install more activities on the emulated sugar
01:24 satellit_ I use EeePC1000HE EeePC900 and Acer Aspire One with external 250 GB USB drive I boot from. Great for sugar
01:31 MephistoM that's great - but we don't have the USB drive at all
01:32 all we have are the laptops
01:32 is there anyway to do this?
01:46 satellit_ liveusb-creator in win 7? need 2 GB min sticks or use dd= command to write .iso file to USB (dangerous)  you HAVE to Have an External USB DVD/CD drive or USB sticks to install. As fa as I know. External USB DVD/CD can be used on each machine thus only need one.
01:47 https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
01:48 Download it into virtual box and then DL ,iso in liveusb-creator and burn USB
01:48 or in WIN 7
01:48 MephistoM what's wrong with keeping the iso on the desktop
01:49 it seems to work ok, just very few activities
01:49 satellit_ If you use it without persistence or in virtualbox- nothing.
01:50 MephistoM ah sorry- but my question is how do I get more activities onto mirabelle
01:51 right now I have virtual box and an ISO file
01:51 and I want to upload more activities
01:51 satellit_ start browse in vb and go to activities on top right of start screen  then DL activities
01:53 use my prebuilt mirabelle (import it)http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]eREADME_FIRST.txt instructions  then it has HD and will retain downloaded activities/ .iso will not and will start each time without any saving
01:55 or http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]rd/ASLOxo-3ss.iso  burn to CD and use to load 140+ activity files by drag-drop to journal in sugar
01:56 MephistoM alright, I will try it out
01:57 thanks Satellit
01:57 satellit_ look at this http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar  complete set of info on sugar
01:57 MephistoM last question - does the ASLOXo-3ss.iso have sugar already on it? or does it just have activities
01:57 satellit_ just .xo activity files
01:58 MephistoM okay, and you said on emulation that you can't save the activities right
01:58 satellit_ http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]eationKit-123.iso  has everthing on DVD
01:58 MephistoM so everytime I restart the emulator I will have to reinstall the activities
01:58 ?
01:59 satellit_ on line at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit
02:00 you have to install to vb HD for permanence. or use my prebuilt mirabelle listed above (Import)
02:01 your .iso in VBjust plays the CD for you non-write
02:02 MephistoM sorry, which one is your prebuilt mirabelle?
02:04 satellit_ http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]v3-Mirabelle.vmdk  http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]-v3-Mirabelle.ovf http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]s-v3-Mirabelle.mf  3 files: read instructions: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tg[…]eREADME_FIRST.txt  first
02:04 import it into VB v easy
02:04 MephistoM VB?
02:05 satellit_ virtual box SUN/Oracle
02:05 not ose
02:05 Start  Sun Virtualbox ( I used: Version 3.1.5 r59339 for export)
02:05 Top Left Corner of window:<file><Import Appliance>
02:05 <Choose> (to find 3 downloaded files you just downloaded )
02:07 http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
02:13 have to go....nite : )
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14:11 sumit alsroot: Hi Aleksey.
14:14 manusheel sumit: Hi Sumit.
14:19 sumit manusheel: Hi Sir.
14:21 manusheel sumit: Let us discuss the revisions suggested by Bernie on the buzzy cursor issue with Anurag.
14:22 sumit manusheel: Sure.
14:30 manusheel is going to the temple. Will be back in an hour.
15:11 alsroot sumit: pong
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16:31 manusheel ishan: Can you try building read using sugar-jhbuild?
16:32 ishan manusheel sir: how do we do that?
16:32 manusheel ishan: We'll need to discuss this with alsroot.
16:33 alsroot: Hi Aleksey. Around?
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16:33 alsroot manusheel: yup
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16:33 alsroot ishan: there were problem w/ Read dunno if they were fixed
16:34 ..upstream code changed API alot
16:34 ishan alsroot, hi
16:34 okay
16:34 alsroot ishan: hi
16:34 manusheel alsroot: We are working on that issue - http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2170
16:36 alsroot manusheel: ishan: about current Read status better to ask unmad|away: on #sugar, he is Read maint
16:36 I mean myabe it doesn't work at all
16:36 manusheel alsroot: Sure.
16:37 ishan alsroot, ok
16:37 satellit_ http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1900 for read
16:37 alsroot manusheel: ishan: about #2170 in particular, looks like Read donesn't have bundle_id in activity.info
16:38 manusheel alsroot: Ok. Read does have a service id.
16:39 alsroot: You are right.
16:39 It does not have a bundle id
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17:32 silbe service_name is the old name for bundle_id. The value must not change (otherwise it will be recognised as a different activity). Setting service_name is activity.info is deprecated since at least 0.84.
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18:09 manusheel shan: Hi Shan.
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18:12 manusheel silbe: Thanks for the pointers.
18:12 silbe manusheel: which pointers?
18:16 manusheel silbe: We should get the service name removed from read activity. I think Ishan made a mistake there.
18:17 silbe manusheel: ah, ok. With pointers I thought you meant a URL or something like that.
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