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| 13:00 | dfarning | manusheel, alsroot what command are the seeta developers using to send patches? |
| 13:01 | manusheel, alsroot a couple of reviews have highlited the importantce of using 'git format-patch' | |
| 13:02 | silbe | dfarning: even better to use git send-email (which uses git format-patch internally) |
| 13:04 | dfarning | silbe, ok thanks. |
| 13:05 | manusheel, ^^ there is a good tutorial for setting up git send-mail + gmail at http://morefedora.blogspot.com[…]to-use-gmail.html | |
| 13:06 | silbe | if anyone can't get git send-email to work with their mail provider, please ping bernie and me (on #sugar or #treehouse). we'll set up something to accept SMTP AUTH for sugarlabs.org then. |
| 13:15 | manusheel | silbe, dfarning: Thank you. Will surely communicate this to the team. |
| 13:17 | silbe | thx! |
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| 14:44 | dipankar | silbe, ping |
| 14:44 | silbe | dipankar: pong |
| 14:44 | dipankar | silbe, hi |
| 14:45 | silbe, thanks for the pointers regarding the patch. | |
| 14:46 | silbe, Wish if you could help me understand the part, where you suggested a way to do away with the class "TimeoutServerProxy()" | |
| 14:47 | http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2289 | |
| 14:48 | silbe | dipankar: go on, I'll try to answer (have to prepare lunch soon) |
| 14:50 | dfarning | ishan, how are you? |
| 14:51 | dipankar | silbe, if I replace, server = TimeoutServerProxy(url) |
| 14:51 | with server = xmlrpclib.ServerProxy(url, transport=TimeoutTransport()) | |
| 14:51 | I am unable to trace out the function calls, leading to fault in code. | |
| 14:52 | silbe, The value for timeout needs to be set somewhere or it can be passed with argument to TimeoutTransport()? | |
| 14:53 | dfarning | ishan, can you finish up SL#2285 -- it looks like you are very close:) and ping me when you start SL#305 |
| 14:53 | ishan | dfarning, hi |
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| 14:53 | ishan | dfarning, hi |
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| 14:53 | dfarning | ishan_, hi. network troubles? |
| 14:54 | ishan_ | dfarning, i dont think so |
| 14:54 | alsroot, hi | |
| 14:54 | around? | |
| 14:55 | alsroot | ishan_: hi |
| 14:55 | ishan_ | alsroot, http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2285 |
| 14:55 | silbe | dipankar: all TimeoutServerProxy does is pass transport=TimeoutTransport() to xmlrpclib.ServerProxy |
| 14:55 | dfarning | ishan, can you finish up SL#2285 -- it looks like you are very close:) and ping me when you start SL#305 |
| 14:55 | ishan_ | alsroot, can you tell me where do i have to add the string? |
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| 14:56 | alsroot | ishan_: but there is already patch submitted by lfaraone |
| 14:56 | dipankar | silbe, ohk, so it means we need not have a class for sending timeout separately? |
| 14:56 | silbe | dipankar: it's using some magic stuff (**kwargs) to achieve that, but we don't need all this generality here |
| 14:56 | dipankar: exactly | |
| 14:56 | ishan_ | alsroot, alsroot yes but they want some modification |
| 14:57 | dipankar | silbe, then why send TimeoutTransport() as argument to ServerProxy()? |
| 14:57 | alsroot | ishan_: what modification you mean? |
| 14:57 | dipankar | silbe, let me guess, so that the timeout can be set at the time of ServerProxy call? |
| 14:57 | ishan_ | alsroot, see the last comment by tomeu |
| 14:59 | dipankar | silbe, otherwise the timeout will not work correctly right? |
| 14:59 | alsroot | ishan_: got it, if some strings should be translated via gettext, you need to use _() function, e.g. _("text") |
| 14:59 | silbe | dipankar: xmlrpclib.ServerProxy doesn't have a way for us to pass in our own HTTP class (TimeoutHTTP), so we need to override xmlrpclib.Transport.make_connection() to make it use our own HTTP class. |
| 15:00 | ishan_ | alsroot, okay |
| 15:00 | silbe | dipankar: thinking about it, we could even get rid of TimeoutTransport.__init__() and either use a global constant (preferred) or set the timeout directly in make_connection(). |
| 15:01 | alsroot | ishan_: btw, "_" is just a common practice, the function is named "gettext", use this "from gettext import gettext as _" |
| 15:02 | ishan_ | alsroot, okay |
| 15:03 | dipankar | silbe, thats what I was thinking |
| 15:09 | ishan_ | alsroot, http://pastebin.com/XfzrMdzD |
| 15:09 | check ^^ | |
| 15:10 | dipankar | silbe, btw how can we do away with TimeoutTransport.__init__() ?? |
| 15:11 | alsroot | ishan_: looks good, just a minor issue, code above uses append() not "+=" to add to cmd array |
| 15:12 | ishan_: never mind, at the end | |
| 15:12 | silbe | dipankar: simply set the timeout directly in make_connection() by either using a global constant or hardcoding the value. Once you don't need self.timeout anymore, there's no reason for to override xmlrpclib.Transport.__init__() |
| 15:14 | ishan_ | alsroot, check http://pastebin.com/f9HcqKAz |
| 15:15 | dipankar | silbe, so you are suggesting to remove function xmlrpclib.Transport.__init__() only and set the timeout separately |
| 15:15 | ? | |
| 15:15 | alsroot | ishan_: fine |
| 15:16 | dipankar | silbe, btw, then how will be sequence run? |
| 15:16 | ishan_ | alsroot, thanks |
| 15:17 | dipankar | silbe, I mean, lets suppose we remove the class and func xmlrpclib.Transport.__init__() both |
| 15:17 | silbe, what will be mechanism of working after that? | |
| 15:17 | silbe | dipankar: which class? TimeoutServerProxy or TimeoutTransport? |
| 15:18 | dipankar | silbe, TimeoutServerProxy |
| 15:22 | silbe | dipankar: we pass an instance of TimeoutTransport to xmlrpclib.ServerProxy. When making a method call, ServerProxy.__request() will call TimeoutTransport.request() (unchanged from Transport.request()) which in turn calls TimeoutTransport.make_connection(). |
| 15:22 | dipankar: the only purpose of TimeoutTransport.__init__() was to set self.timeout. If TimeoutTransport.__init__() isn't defined, Transport.__init__() will be used. | |
| 15:22 | dipankar | silbe, ok |
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| 15:25 | dipankar | silbe, so finally, I have to make a global variable " TIMEOUT=10 " and pass it in the "return TimeoutHTTP(host, timeout=self.timeout)" |
| 15:25 | ? | |
| 15:27 | kandarpk | dfarning: none of the activities is getting launched |
| 15:28 | logs says | |
| 15:28 | dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetActivity" with signature "s" on interface "(null)" doesn't exist | |
| 15:28 | silbe | dipankar: I would call it REGISTER_TIMEOUT, but otherwise yes, that's what I meant. |
| 15:28 | dipankar | silbe, thanks |
| 15:29 | silbe | dipankar: yw |
| 15:29 | dipankar | silbe, I will get back to you after sometime with the required changes to be done |
| 15:29 | silbe | dipankar: have fun :) |
| 15:30 | dfarning | kandarpk, sorry I don't understand dbus well enough to help. maybe alsroot or silbe know more. |
| 15:31 | alsroot | kandarpk: I got the same issue w/ recent sugar+tp, try to update tp stack to recent one |
| 15:31 | kandarpk | silbe, alsroot: I installed sugar-jhbuild on debian right now |
| 15:31 | silbe | kandarpk: tomeu might know better, but my guess is that you're running a non-bleeding edge version of Sugar (i.e. < 0.89.x) and can safely ignore these messages |
| 15:32 | kandarpk: ah, that's likely to be still broken | |
| 15:32 | kandarpk | alsroot, silbe: the emulator is launching but activities aren't |
| 15:32 | silbe: ok | |
| 15:32 | alsroot | kandarpk: you can't launch activities w/o dbus |
| 15:32 | silbe | except for Fedora 14 (as I've been told, don't have F14 myself) no distros ship a recent enough Telepathy stack |
| 15:32 | kandarpk | alsroot: hmmm |
| 15:32 | alsroot | s/launch/proper-use/ |
| 15:33 | silbe | we're going to be building Telepathy inside sugar-jhbuild again, but don't have a working patch yet (there are open questions about dependencies) |
| 15:35 | kandarpk: I just checked Debian experimental, it seems to have recent enough versions of telepathy-gabble and telepathy-mission-control-5 (though not telepathy-salut). If you're feeling adventerous, you might give it a try. | |
| 15:40 | kandarpk | silbe: upgraded telepathy-gabble and libtelepathy-glib0 but still getting the same error |
| 15:41 | telepathy-mission-control-5 was upto date | |
| 15:42 | dipankar is away: Be Right Back | |
| 15:42 | silbe | kandarpk: are you sure you have telepathy-mission-control-5 1:5.5.3-1 and telepathy-gabble 0.9.17-1? |
| 15:44 | kandarpk | silbe: gabble > 0.9.15-1 and mission-control > 1:5.4.3-1 |
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| 15:48 | silbe | kandarpk: that's too old. You need the very latest versions I'm afraid. |
| 15:49 | kandarpk | silbe: update-manager and synaptic aren't showing the latest versions |
| 15:49 | silbe: how do I get them ? | |
| 15:51 | silbe | kandarpk: you need to add the Debian experimental repo |
| 15:51 | bbl | |
| 15:57 | kandarpk | alsroot, dfarning, silbe( if you are still around) : my sources.list file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/489887/ |
| 15:59 | alsroot | kandarpk: just check if you have the same tp versions, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0[…]otes#Dependencies |
| 16:01 | dfarning | kandarpk, to use expermental you need to add 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free' to sources.list |
| 16:01 | kandarpk | dfarning: thanks. |
| 16:07 | dfarning: I appended it to sources.list and reloaded from synaptic but still cant see the latest versions | |
| 16:08 | synaptic had some failures as well http://paste.ubuntu.com/489892/ | |
| 16:16 | ('*** ishan_ is now known as ishan', 'ishan_', 'ishan') | |
| 16:18 | dfarning | kandarpk, try a couple of time the error you showed seemed to be related to mirrors -- sorry I don't know much about debain mirrors. |
| 16:18 | kandarpk | dfarning: I got how to install experimental packages |
| 16:18 | dfarning | kandarpk, +1 |
| 16:18 | kandarpk | they need to be force-installed |
| 16:19 | dfarning: but that isnt working somehow | |
| 16:19 | dfarning | silbe, ^^ sorry don't use debain experimental so I can't help |
| 16:33 | kandarpk | silbe, updated telepathy-mission-control-5 to 1:5.5.3-1 and telepathy-gabble to 0.9.17-1, still the same error |
| 16:33 | dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetActivity" with signature "s" on interface "(null)" doesn't exist | |
| 16:47 | manusheel | dfarning, silbe: Any pointers on the above exception? |
| 16:48 | kandarpk: Did this sort out? | |
| 16:50 | kandarpk | manusheel sir: nope. |
| 16:50 | manusheel | kandarpk: Ok. |
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| 16:53 | manusheel | alsroot: Around? |
| 16:54 | alsroot | manusheel: yup |
| 16:55 | manusheel | alsroot: On Kandarp's machine - jhbuild is running but activities aren't getting launched |
| 16:55 | kandarpk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/489915/ |
| 16:56 | manusheel | alsroot: He is getting the following exception - dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetActivity" with signature "s" on interface "(null)" doesn't exist |
| 16:56 | alsroot: Any pointers on the above? | |
| 16:56 | alsroot | manusheel: with git sugar, recent tp stack should be used, see versions on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0[…]otes#Dependencies |
| 16:57 | kandarpk | alsroot: I am having the latest version of tp installed |
| 16:58 | manusheel | alsroot: Kandarp is having its latest version |
| 16:58 | alsroot | kandarpk: whats the version of tp-gabble? |
| 16:58 | kandarpk | manusheel sir, alsroot, silbe: all the log reports have this in common |
| 16:58 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/489915/ | |
| 16:58 | manusheel | kandarpk: What is the version of tp-gabble? |
| 16:59 | kandarpk | manusheel sir, alsroot: 0.9.17-1 |
| 16:59 | silbe | kandarpk: looking |
| 16:59 | kandarpk: can you upload the full activity log somewhere? | |
| 17:00 | kandarpk | silbe, http://paste.ubuntu.com/489920/ |
| 17:00 | for pippy activity | |
| 17:01 | alsroot | kandarpk: does your tp-gabble use gnutls? |
| 17:01 | silbe | kandarpk: anything you copy to sunjammer:public_html will show up on https://people.sugarlabs.org/<user name>/, BTW. |
| 17:01 | (in case scp is easier for you than uploading in a web browser) | |
| 17:01 | kandarpk | silbe: ok |
| 17:02 | alsroot: how can I check if it does ? | |
| 17:02 | silbe | kandarpk: can you upload shell.log as well, please? |
| 17:02 | alsroot | kandarpk: `ldd <path-to-telepathy-gabble> | grep gnutls` |
| 17:03 | in my system it is /usr/libexec/telepathy-gabble, not sure about yours | |
| 17:03 | kandarpk | silbe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/489923/ |
| 17:04 | silbe | hmm, looks ok |
| 17:04 | tomeu: maybe you have some idea? | |
| 17:04 | oops, he's not here | |
| 17:05 | kandarpk | alsroot: I'll need to search the path, libexec doesn't exist in /usr |
| 17:06 | alsroot | kandarpk: see content of tp-gabble package |
| 17:07 | kandarpk | alsroot: depends on libgnutls26 |
| 17:07 | alsroot | kandarpk: whats the version of gnutls? |
| 17:07 | kandarpk | alsroot: 2.8.6-1 |
| 17:08 | alsroot: installed on my system | |
| 17:08 | alsroot | kandarpk: then it is not the case I suspected, gnutls-2.10 has a bug |
| 17:10 | kandarpk: btw is mission-control launched? | |
| 17:11 | kandarpk | alsroot: not much knowledge about that :( |
| 17:11 | alsroot | kandarpk: `ps aux | grep mission-control` |
| 17:11 | ..after starting sugar | |
| 17:11 | kandarpk | ok |
| 17:13 | alsroot: it is there | |
| 17:14 | alsroot | kandarpk: and you still getting org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetActivity" error? |
| 17:14 | kandarpk | alsroot: will just check |
| 17:15 | alsroot: the error is still there | |
| 17:16 | alsroot | kandarpk: heh then dunno, I got the same errors due to out dated tp stack but after updating it was fixed |
| 17:17 | kandarpk: you'd better to ask tomeu | |
| 17:17 | kandarpk | alsroot: ok. |
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| 17:18 | shan | manusheel: the steps are all in order |
| 17:23 | dfarning | shan, what are you working on? |
| 17:24 | shan, rather what part of 1169 are you working on? | |
| 17:24 | shan | manusheel: i just finished making that patch myself |
| 17:24 | dfarning: i just finished making that patch myself | |
| 17:25 | dfarning | shan, did you use git send-mail? |
| 17:26 | shan | dfarning: there was some problem with that..so i had sent it as an attachment to manusheel sir |
| 17:26 | dfarning | shan, what was the problem? |
| 17:27 | shan | dfarning: it shows the status as 'ok' , but the email actually never goes.. |
| 17:27 | dfarning | shan, did you set up .git/config |
| 17:28 | shan | yes i did.... |
| 17:28 | dfarning | shan, can you ask alsroot for help. he has debugged git send-mail issues several times this week. |
| 17:30 | alsroot | shan: did you checked that your smtp git parameters are the same as your email client ones? |
| 17:32 | dipankar | silbe, around? |
| 17:32 | silbe | dipankar: yep |
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| 17:32 | dipankar | silbe, just a small question, if I change from xmlrpclib import Error |
| 17:32 | to import xmlrpc | |
| 17:32 | *xmlrpclib | |
| 17:33 | do I need to change the Error to xmlrpclib.Error too? | |
| 17:33 | in the code | |
| 17:33 | shan | dfarning: sorry my net still seems to be erratic |
| 17:33 | silbe | dipankar: yep |
| 17:33 | dfarning | <alsroot> shan: did you checked that your smtp git parameters are the same as your email client ones? |
| 17:34 | dipankar | silbe, thanks |
| 17:36 | shan | yes they were same, i did check |
| 17:36 | silbe | dipankar: you might be interested in http://effbot.org/zone/import-confusion.htm . I didn't read it myself, but a quick glance suggests it might be useful. |
| 17:36 | dipankar | silbe, thanks again :) |
| 17:37 | silbe | yw :) |
| 17:38 | alsroot | silbe: did you get any bouced emails after git send-email? |
| 17:38 | shan: ^ | |
| 17:39 | shan | yes i did |
| 17:40 | alsroot | shan: could you pastebin it |
| 17:41 | shan | alsroot: be right back.... |
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| 17:47 | kandarpk | dfarning, alsroot: how can I apply the patch submitted on the mailing list ? |
| 17:47 | alsroot | kandarpk: `git am <path-to-patch>` |
| 17:59 | dipankar | silbe, I have sent the patch through git send-email |
| 17:59 | quite a time back | |
| 18:00 | silbe, does it generally take time for the email to get accepted? | |
| 18:01 | manusheel | dipankar, silbe: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ember/026659.html |
| 18:02 | silbe | dipankar: just a few seconds usually |
| 18:03 | dipankar: depending on you subscription options it might not get sent back to you. | |
| 18:05 | dipankar | silbe, :), strange thing is, I still didn't receive it myself. Doesn't matter, it has reached mailing list :) |
| 18:06 | silbe | dipankar: there's an option for that. some people prefer not to receive back their own mails. |
| 18:06 | dipankar: check out http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel | |
| 18:06 | dipankar | silbe, ohk, so that must have been the second input of git send-email :) |
| 18:07 | silbe | enter your email address in the last text entry and follow "Unsubscribe or edit options" |
| 18:07 | after confirming with your password you can configure your mailing list subscription | |
| 18:08 | there should be an option that lets you receive even mails you sent to the list yourself | |
| 18:08 | dipankar | silbe, done that. now worries :) |
| 18:08 | silbe | ok :) |
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| 18:16 | kandarpk | alsroot: ./sugar-jhbuild build is giving error |
| 18:16 | checking for NICE... configure: error: Package requirements (nice >= 0.0.11) were not met: | |
| 18:16 | alsroot: I installed nice 0.9.133.2 | |
| 18:17 | alsroot | kandarpk: for what package? |
| 18:17 | kandarpk | but still the error is being reported |
| 18:17 | alsroot: No package 'nice' found | |
| 18:18 | alsroot | kandarpk: I mean for what sugar package, can't find where we use it |
| 18:19 | kandarpk | alsroot: telepathy-gabble |
| 18:19 | alsroot: I applied the patch at http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ember/026656.html | |
| 18:20 | that increased packages being build from 23 to 28 | |
| 18:21 | alsroot | kandarpk: anyway, if it is autotools project (that requires nice) see its config.log file |
| 18:22 | there should be detaild info about error | |
| 18:22 | kandarpk | pk |
| 18:22 | *ok | |
| 18:24 | silbe | for the next round of patches, please include version numbers after refining patches |
| 18:25 | in the subject, use [PATCH v2] and in the mail body include a changelog below the "---" | |
| 18:25 | e.g.: "v1->v2: improved subject and description" | |
| 18:26 | "v2->v3: simplify patch by eliminating TimeoutServerProxy" | |
| 18:27 | kandarpk: remember you need to install -dev packages when compiling from source | |
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| 18:28 | kandarpk | silbe: found libnice-dev |
| 18:29 | silbe: and installing that worked :) | |
| 18:29 | need to install uuid now | |
| 18:30 | manusheel | kandarpk: Ok. |
| 18:30 | Neat. | |
| 18:32 | silbe | kandarpk: BTW, if you used the sugar-jhbuild patch from Tomeu, "./sugar-jhbuild depscheck" should have told you the packages you need to install |
| 18:33 | kandarpk | silbe: OK. |
| 18:33 | silbe: thanks for the pointer | |
| 18:33 | silbe | kandarpk: yw :) |
| 18:34 | We don't run depscheck automatically as it's rather slow. You should run it from time to time after updating sugar-jhbuild, especially if something fails to build. | |
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| 18:37 | mukul | hi alsroot |
| 18:37 | alsroot | mukul: hi |
| 18:39 | mukul | Can you help me in finding the equivalent of display.c,keybindings.h,keybindings.c(in fedora) in jhbuild? |
| 18:40 | alsroot, Actually I was studying the patch http://sascha.silbe.org/patche[…]keybindings.patch | |
| 18:43 | alsroot | mukul: but do we build metacity in jhbuild? |
| 18:43 | silbe: ^ | |
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| 18:44 | silbe | mukul: on most distros we don't build metacity in sugar-jhbuild |
| 18:46 | mukul | alsroot, silbe : By the way , the patch that I mentioned above is for enabling the Alt+tab and related keys to work on sugar right? |
| 18:46 | manusheel | silbe: +1 |
| 18:48 | silbe | mukul: it makes "metacity-message disable-keybindings" work again, which allows Alt+Tab to work in Sugar. |
| 18:50 | mukul | silbe: Ok |
| 18:50 | silbe: I want to make a similar patch on ubuntu. Which files should I target> | |
| 18:50 | silbe | mukul: the patch should work as-is. |
| 18:52 | mukul | silbe: I was asking as I don't see any src/core/display.c file |
| 18:53 | silbe: I mean where exactly should I make changes. | |
| 18:56 | kandarpk | dfarning, silbe, alsroot: the activities are getting launched now :) |
| 18:56 | dfarning: but now, it is not asking for the password. | |
| 18:56 | alsroot | kandarpk: what you did to fix it? |
| 18:57 | kandarpk | alsroot: tomeu posted a patch on the mailing list |
| 18:57 | http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]ember/026656.html | |
| 18:57 | alsroot: applied it^^ | |
| 18:58 | alsroot | kandarpk: hmm, so last time you checked one versions in your system but used old versions from jhbuild? |
| 18:58 | manusheel | mukul: Any issues here? |
| 18:59 | kandarpk | alsroot: the jhbuild I used was latest |
| 18:59 | manusheel | mukul: Around? |
| 18:59 | kandarpk | alsroot: the patch is to be applied in the git repo. |
| 18:59 | manusheel | kandarpk: Can you check if there is a src/core/display.c file? |
| 18:59 | in your jhbuild? | |
| 19:00 | mukul | manusheel sir: Actually the files used in the patch are not present in either jhbuild or usr |
| 19:00 | manusheel | kandarpk: Mukul is working on http://sascha.silbe.org/patche[…]keybindings.patch |
| 19:00 | kandarpk: Is it present at your system? | |
| 19:00 | kandarpk | manusheel sir: let me check |
| 19:01 | mukul | manusheel sir: Therefore I was asking alsroot, silbe for the equivalent files. |
| 19:01 | manusheel | mukul: No worries. |
| 19:01 | mukul: Let me check too. | |
| 19:01 | silbe | mukul: apt-get source metacity |
| 19:02 | kandarpk | manusheel sir: not found |
| 19:03 | alsroot, silbe: the emulator was asking for password on getting launched | |
| 19:03 | mukul | silbe, thanks. Can you give me a little more idea on what exactly is metacity |
| 19:04 | kandarpk | after applying the patch it directly gets me to the home view |
| 19:04 | alsroot | kandarpk: you mean, sugar asks? |
| 19:04 | *asked | |
| 19:04 | silbe | kandarpk: that's expected currently. it's your GNOME keyring password. |
| 19:04 | I don't like it either ;) | |
| 19:05 | mukul: apt-cache show metacity | |
| 19:05 | ;) | |
| 19:05 | kandarpk | alsroot: when the emulator was launched, it said ""Enter password to unlock your login keyring" |
| 19:05 | mukul | kandarpk sir: It does that everytime when I run sugar through jhbuild |
| 19:06 | kandarpk | mukul: it did for me too before applying the patch but not now |
| 19:06 | manusheel | mukul: Did it work apt-get source metacity |
| 19:06 | mukul | Yes I downloaded the source of metacity |
| 19:07 | *it downloaded the source of metacity | |
| 19:07 | manusheel | mukul: Great |
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| 19:11 | mukul | silbe, How does metacity influence sugar if it is a separate package in itself |
| 19:13 | silbe | mukul: it gets started in "sugar". Where it comes from (installed from distro package or using sugar-jhbuild) doesn't matter as long as it's in PATH. |
| 19:15 | anurag | silbe: can you tell me why my cursors in sugar jh-build doesnt look or behave like sugar cursors instead they are just normal destop cursors? |
| 19:17 | silbe | anurag: icon-slicer missing while sugar-artwork was built? try "./sugar-jhbuild depscheck" |
| 19:18 | anurag | silbe: sure and thanks |
| 19:21 | silbe | anurag: so was that the reason? |
| 19:22 | anurag | silbe: my result for ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck came to be : http://pastebin.com/5UrJLusp |
| 19:23 | silbe | anurag: ok, so that wasn't your problem :) |
| 19:24 | anurag | silbe: yes , but the cursors are still not ok . :| |
| 19:26 | silbe | anurag: that's because you didn't change anything :) |
| 19:26 | depscheck tell you what you need to install. It doesn't install anything of its own. | |
| 19:26 | *tells | |
| 19:27 | anurag: does sugar-jhbuild/install/share/icons/sugar/cursors/ contain a bunch of files? | |
| 19:28 | manusheel | silbe: Right. Any reason, why this would not be working on jhbuild? Works on emulator. |
| 19:28 | silbe | like "circle", "close", etc. |
| 19:28 | anurag | silbe: yes true |
| 19:29 | silbe: yes the cursor files sre present there | |
| 19:29 | *are | |
| 19:29 | silbe | manusheel: that sentence doesn't make sense. sugar-emulator is an executable that's part of Sugar and can be installed either using native distro packages or by using sugar-jhbuild. |
| 19:30 | anurag: ok, that's a start. :) | |
| 19:31 | anurag: please enter the following commands in order: | |
| 19:31 | ./sugar-jhbuild shell | |
| 19:31 | echo "$XCURSOR_PATH" | |
| 19:32 | you can exit the shell by pressing Ctrl+D or entering "exit" | |
| 19:32 | anurag | anurag: ok |
| 19:32 | silbe: ok | |
| 19:32 | manusheel | silbe: Sorry. I used a quick shortcut. My apologies for the same. Yes, what I meant was that this feature didn't work in emulator installed using jhbuild, but worked fine in emulator installed through jhbuild. |
| 19:33 | silbe | "./sugar-jhbuild shell" will set up the environment exactly the same as for "./sugar-jhbuild run <foo>" and starts your favourite shell (usually bash) so you can poke around. |
| 19:33 | manusheel | silbe: sorry "worked fine in emulator installed through distro packages" |
| 19:34 | silbe | manusheel: ok, that makes much more sense now :) |
| 19:35 | you don't happen to have both Sugar from distro packages and sugar-jhbuild installed in parallel on the same host, do you? | |
| 19:35 | because that has caused troubles in the past | |
| 19:36 | sometimes files from the distro packages were used instead of those in sugar-jhbuild | |
| 19:36 | in theory, it shouldn't happen, but in practice it does | |
| 19:36 | anurag | silbe: yes i do have both of them on the same machine. |
| 19:37 | silbe | anurag: Then I suggest first uninstalling the Sugar distro packages. It might solve your cursor problem. |
| 19:37 | Alternatively use a chroot for sugar-jhbuild. schroot is a great tool for that. | |
| 19:37 | anurag | silbe: sure |
| 19:39 | dfarning | silbe, so we can just append schoot before the command ./sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator |
| 19:39 | silbe | dfarning: well, more or less :) |
| 19:41 | you need to install a system in a chroot first, e.g. using debootstrap. I use LVM, so I can just create one LV (logical volume) per chroot. For sugar-jhbuild 8 to 10GB are a good size. | |
| 19:42 | you can then use schroot to "start" the chroot and "enter" it. e.g.: | |
| 19:42 | schroot -c sugar-jhbuild -n sugar-jhbuild1 -b | |
| 19:42 | schroot -c sugar-jhbuild1 -p -r | |
| 19:42 | this will give you a shell inside the chroot | |
| 19:42 | of course you need to set up schroot (/etc/schroot/schroot.conf) first | |
| 19:44 | IIRC the schroot documentation was good. The author (upstream + Debian maintainer) is very responsive (uploaded a fix about 10 minutes after me reporting it this week). | |
| 19:46 | If someone does set it up, please document the steps in a wiki page so it's easier for others. | |
| 19:47 | (I do have it set up myself, but 1) I set it up a long time ago and 2) I might miss steps that are "obvious" to me, but maybe not to others) | |
| 19:48 | anurag | silbe :when i am using sugar-jhbuild which has latest source code from git will its matter if i am using fedora or ubuntu? |
| 19:49 | silbe | anurag: It can make a difference, yes. Sugar should work on all distros so different behaviour is usually a bug (that should be reported and fixed), though. |
| 19:51 | anurag | silbe: then the jh-build installed on both fedora and ubuntu running natively and separately on the same system will behave in different manner? |
| 19:51 | silbe | Even if you use distro packages the behaviour can differ. Only the Sugar source code is the same, a large part of the system can be different (more recent or older versions, distro-specific patches, different paths, etc.). |
| 19:51 | anurag: it might, but should not | |
| 19:52 | That's why we need to test Sugar on different distros, not just one. | |
| 19:53 | anurag | silbe : True and that would be really helpful for further development |
| 19:55 | dfarning | silbe, thanks |
| 19:56 | silbe | dfarning: if you (plural) need specific help with setting up a chroot, feel free to ask. |
| 19:57 | it's a good way to test Sugar, but it comes at some cost | |
| 19:58 | e.g. unless you set it up specially, applications inside the chroot won't have access to the system dbus on the host. | |
| 19:59 | Sugar can now run without a system dbus, but some features won't work. | |
| 20:01 | You can start a system dbus inside the chroot, but that's risky. Components that are auto-activated by the system dbus (because something asked for them) might clobber the host state (e.g. networking). | |
| 20:02 | It can be similar risky to give the chroot access to the system DBus on the host. You can even trigger a shutdown via DBus. | |
| 20:50 | manusheel | anurag: What was the issue with the description? |
| 20:51 | anurag | manusheel: it was just formatting error |
| 20:52 | manusheel | anurag: Ok. Did it get resolved? |
| 20:53 | anurag | manusheel:yes |
| 20:54 | manusheel | anurag: Great, which step are you on now? |
| 20:55 | anurag | manusheel: patch made and now i will install git email to upload the patch |
| 20:55 | manusheel | anurag: Great. |
| 20:55 | anurag: Sending you an e-mail on it. | |
| 20:55 | anurag | sure |
| 20:56 | manusheel | anurag: In the meanwhile, can you e-mail me the patch too? |
| 20:56 | anurag | sure |
| 20:57 | manusheel | anurag: Send you the steps. |
| 20:58 | anurag | got them |
| 20:59 | manusheel | anurag: Did you e-mail me the patch file? |
| 21:00 | anurag | manusheel:yes |
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| 21:12 | anurag | manusheel: patch successfully upload |
| 21:12 | *uploaded | |
| 21:14 | manusheel | anurag: Great. |
| 21:14 | anurag: Add r? | |
| 21:19 | anurag: Great | |
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| 23:44 | GeeXain | hey guys |
| 23:46 | had a quick question, hopefully someone can answer, is it possible to install & run Sugar developed activities on Ubuntu? specifically Ubunt 8.10 Intrepid | |
| 23:48 | manusheel | GeeXain: Yes. |
| 23:48 | GeeXain: Would prefer you to upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 |
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