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Meeting started Fri Jul 6 20:11:29 2018 UTC. The chair is samsongoddy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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20:11 |
sverma |
The only thing I have to add is about the "Goals" process. |
20:11 |
MrBIOS |
there are at least two at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]oard#Agenda_items |
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MrBIOS |
and I proposed a third one via e-mail |
20:12 |
samsongoddy |
#gsoc |
20:13 |
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I had the opportunity to attend one of the meetings today |
20:13 |
GrannieB |
I read it online after the fact |
20:13 |
samsongoddy |
It seems to be going well |
20:13 |
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Next evaluation is by june 9th |
20:13 |
GrannieB |
??? |
20:13 |
MrBIOS |
July, presumably? |
20:14 |
samsongoddy |
*july |
20:14 |
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Thanks |
20:14 |
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we also have some project going outside gsoc |
20:14 |
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Sugar Labs Social |
20:15 |
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unfortunately the project didn't made the cut to Gsoc so it was tagged an outside project |
20:15 |
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But moreover |
20:15 |
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The student working on the project wants some sort of acknowledge |
20:15 |
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Like a certificate or T-shirt or something to show proof of internship |
20:15 |
MrBIOS |
have any of the slobs had an opportunity to read the e-mail I wrote earlier today? See paragraph three of https://lists.sugarlabs.org/ar[…]-July/020457.html |
20:16 |
samsongoddy |
yes i did |
20:16 |
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we will come to that |
20:16 |
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So i think we should decide what to do for this student |
20:16 |
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Working on a project outside gsoc |
20:17 |
MrBIOS |
Where is it documented? |
20:17 |
samsongoddy |
I will do a follow-up by mail |
20:17 |
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walter was supposed to be on top of that |
20:17 |
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Any other comments? Re: #gsoc |
20:18 |
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Before we move on? |
20:18 |
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If none, then #goals |
20:18 |
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sverma? |
20:18 |
GrannieB |
Perhaps, looking forward, it would be a nice idea to have some standard "swag" on hand to reward contributors |
20:18 |
sverma |
The "Goals" project collected a bunch of feedback |
20:19 |
samsongoddy |
+1 GrannieB |
20:19 |
sverma |
We were trying to categorize some of those into "org" vs "project" items |
20:19 |
MrBIOS |
on-demand T-shirts aren’t terribly expensive to make. My wife makes vinyl shirt stencils and would be happy to make one if she had a shirt size and image |
20:19 |
samsongoddy |
Sounds good |
20:19 |
sverma |
That has stalled. So, I propose that we simply post the list of items on the wiki and let people step up to take ownership of items they want to pursue. |
20:20 |
samsongoddy |
+1 |
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I agree |
20:20 |
sverma |
I'll be happy to include the categorization that we have thus far. |
20:20 |
samsongoddy |
thanks, sverma. |
20:20 |
sverma |
For now, we have the suggested goal, its suggested time frame and a category. |
20:20 |
MrBIOS |
sverma: I took a look at that spreadsheet yesterday and there seems to be a bunch of duplicate entries |
20:21 |
GrannieB |
Post a link in an email when you have the list refined? |
20:21 |
sverma |
MrBIOS: Indeed. The idea was to combine the duplicate/similar ones into wider ones |
20:21 |
MrBIOS |
sverma: when was the last submission to the form? |
20:21 |
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no I meant literal duplicates |
20:21 |
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not similar or overlapping |
20:21 |
sverma |
Literal dupes are a different matter |
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Last entries are from end of march/early april iirc. |
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20:22 |
GrannieB |
Time to consolodate! |
20:23 |
sverma |
Yes. |
20:23 |
samsongoddy |
FYI, we need to get goals ready |
20:23 |
GrannieB |
Do you have the link to the doc handy? |
20:23 |
MrBIOS |
Right. you last showed the spreadsheet with goal responses four months ago, on March first, so I’m just curious why it’s taken four months to have what appears to be an initial discussion about it by the SLOBs? |
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was: re: https://lists.sugarlabs.org/ar[…]March/020398.html |
20:24 |
sverma |
Here it is. https://docs.google.com/spread[…]/edit?usp=sharing |
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I've done some categorization, but that's about it. |
20:25 |
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If anyone wants to take ashot at it, please do! |
20:26 |
samsongoddy |
I will see how I can help |
20:26 |
GrannieB |
Ah, ha! That is where I first proposed Sugar Primero... and it's actually happening in GSoC! |
20:26 |
sverma |
My concern is that it will remain a spreadsheet and not get documented on the wiki |
20:26 |
MrBIOS |
on the subject of the suggestion, “Fully staff all boards, offices, and committees” (Thanks Samson), is there any sort of list of which seats are open/abandoned? |
20:26 |
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Line 24 of the spreadsheet, currently |
20:27 |
samsongoddy |
Yes |
20:27 |
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About that |
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the reason why I think there have been some lags |
20:27 |
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Is because of responsibilities |
20:27 |
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that why Dave and I suggested |
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That Sugar Labs go into that Direction |
20:28 |
IgnoreMe |
Out of curiosity, are all these goals currently being worked on, or are ideas to work on? |
20:28 |
samsongoddy |
I think both |
20:28 |
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at least some are |
20:28 |
MrBIOS |
IgnoreMe: at least one is being worked on, probably multiple |
20:28 |
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Python3ization of core Sugar |
20:29 |
samsongoddy |
Any other comments re: #goals |
20:29 |
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? |
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So we will move on |
20:29 |
GrannieB |
These "goals" (most are really "objectives") need to be sorted into categories and a broader "Goal" written for each categorey. Then the objectives should be restated with proposed timeframes and measures of success |
20:29 |
MrBIOS |
I’m not really sure a few seconds is an appropriate amount of time to wait for responses, samsongoddy |
20:29 |
sverma |
I'd like some assistance with putting these up on the wiki. |
20:30 |
MrBIOS |
sverma: I could help with that |
20:30 |
sverma |
Thx |
20:30 |
samsongoddy |
+1 GrannieB |
20:30 |
MrBIOS |
the spreadsheet is…not exactly ideal, for consumption, anyways. Certainly makes collection easy. |
20:31 |
samsongoddy |
#PR |
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MRBIOS, wanna take on this? |
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20:31 |
sverma |
MrBIOS: Correct. If each item can live on its own page, it can be updated as time goes by. |
20:32 |
MrBIOS |
Sure, I am less concerned in the immediate term with *doing* actual PR than the apprearance that the project is completely stagnant. |
20:32 |
GrannieB |
I just saw the nice little video on the SugarLabs page... very nice! (https://sugarlabs.org/) |
20:32 |
MrBIOS |
The wiki tells one story, and the static PR page has not been updated in four+ years |
20:33 |
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for instance, https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]bs/Current_Events seems to be reasonably up to date |
20:34 |
samsongoddy |
I see |
20:34 |
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I recently contacted Sean about the PR possition |
20:35 |
MrBIOS |
The reality is the bar for editing the website is much higher than it is for editing a page on the Sugar Labs wiki |
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so it’s two very different levels of effort for non-technical folks |
20:36 |
samsongoddy |
More reason we need staffs I think |
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Back when I came to Sugar Labs early 2012 |
20:37 |
sverma |
There's a whole lot more to this than what we can likely discuss on IRC. |
20:37 |
samsongoddy |
agreed |
20:37 |
MrBIOS |
sverma: that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try ;) |
20:37 |
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regardless of whether we do or do not have a PR contact currently, the existing page seems to be causing more harm than good |
20:38 |
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https://sugarlabs.org/press/ |
20:38 |
samsongoddy |
I will tackle that |
20:38 |
sverma |
Agreed. |
20:38 |
samsongoddy |
Personally |
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20:39 |
samsongoddy |
I have been seeing some articles about Sugar Labs related news |
20:39 |
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So i will update that |
20:39 |
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Thanks for pointing that out |
20:39 |
GrannieB |
lots to catch up! It looks like nothing has happened for 4 years |
20:39 |
MrBIOS |
GrannieB: right, but https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]bs/Current_Events tells a different story |
20:40 |
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I am arguing that the static press page should just go away |
20:40 |
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it serves little useful purpose and gives an inaccurate impression |
20:40 |
CanoeBerry |
On the bright side, there are not many links to https://sugarlabs.org/press/ |
20:40 |
GrannieB |
There were lots of things in the intervening time... Adam knows about some of them... events, projects in other countries, etc |
20:40 |
MrBIOS |
CanoeBerry: correct, but it’s in the footer of every single Sugar Labs web page |
20:40 |
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which would be easy to fix |
20:41 |
CanoeBerry |
( whatever is decided, these links serve an archival/historical purpose within https://web.archive.org/web/*/[…]arlabs.org/press/ ) |
20:42 |
sverma |
There are really two problems that we are trying to tackle here: 1) What should we be working on internal to the Sugar project? 2) How should we portray this to the world outside in an "easy to consume" format? |
20:42 |
GrannieB |
We need to recreate our history... fill in all the blanks. Maybe some sort of survey sent to iaep asking what they did with since about 2014 |
20:42 |
MrBIOS |
begins to wonder if GrannieB has me on ignore. |
20:43 |
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Again, see https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]bs/Current_Events |
20:43 |
GrannieB |
* MrBIOS... Maybe my connection does??? |
20:43 |
samsongoddy |
That is up to date |
20:44 |
MrBIOS |
correct, but it isn’t really linked to anywhere outside of the wiki itself..so we have one source of actually up to date information |
20:44 |
samsongoddy |
I agree with MrBIOS |
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20:45 |
samsongoddy |
About taking out the press page out of the site |
20:45 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
MrBIOS is very correct. If there are links to press releases, it should be linked to the sources. |
20:45 |
MrBIOS |
it can always be added back later if it becomes un-crusty :) |
20:45 |
samsongoddy |
Great |
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I agree on that |
20:46 |
MrBIOS |
then there is the issue of the vacant public relations role itself, which I do feel strongly needs to be rectified. From what I can tell, the slob has not taken action or actively discussed this, but I am very late to the party, so perhaps I just missed that. |
20:46 |
samsongoddy |
I am seeking on taking over from Sean as coordinator on PR |
20:47 |
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And we have both agreed for a Meetup before his possible move to france |
20:47 |
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I am still making plans on that |
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I will mail SLOBs when I have a concrete plan |
20:48 |
MrBIOS |
I would also like to point out that May 15th was the 10th anniversary of the announcement of Sugar Labs, which may be useful from a marketing perspective: https://sugarlabs.org/2008/05/[…]lity-and-utility/ |
20:48 |
GrannieB |
An opportunity missed... |
20:48 |
samsongoddy |
?? |
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GrannieB |
20:49 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Ya. Huge opportunity to get the word out there both VISUALLY and otherwise. |
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Missed. |
20:49 |
MrBIOS |
well, there is another upcoming anniversary, which is in December |
20:49 |
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when Sugar Labs joined the Software Conservancy |
20:50 |
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That could also be leveraged: https://sugarlabs.org/2008/12/[…]edom-Conservancy/ |
20:50 |
samsongoddy |
MrBIOS, free for us to work on gathering links? |
20:50 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Great. Then the marketing team would have to have hands on deck and start planning on ways to skyrocket the reach of SL and get the word out there in every possible means. |
20:52 |
MrBIOS |
so, can I propose a motion to nix the press page? Does anyone disagree? |
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or propose that a slob proposes such? :) |
20:52 |
samsongoddy |
I don't think we need a motion for that |
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My opinion |
20:53 |
MrBIOS |
I don’t really care either way, I’m happy to just make the change |
20:54 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
The press page can be rejuvenated to work it's purpose instead of taking it out completely. 🤔 |
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20:54 |
MrBIOS |
ifeanyiekperi__: I have no desire to do so, and unless someone else volunteers to keep it updated, it is counterproductive |
20:54 |
samsongoddy |
the problem here is maintenance |
20:54 |
MrBIOS |
there is also the issue of who pr sugarlabs.org should be routed to, since now the only active SL recipient to it is currently Walter |
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which is a single point of failure |
20:55 |
samsongoddy |
Me |
20:55 |
walterbender |
hello all |
20:55 |
samsongoddy |
Is seeking to take or join that |
20:55 |
sverma |
Hi Walter |
20:55 |
samsongoddy |
MrBIOS, can the pr sugarlabs.org be routed to me too? |
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Hi Walter |
20:56 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Hi Walter |
20:56 |
MrBIOS |
samsongoddy: I don’t see why not, unless someone objects, the only real issue at present is I will have to determine how to make that change :) |
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but that seems to be something for the SLOB to consider as a whole |
20:56 |
samsongoddy |
Yes |
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That is what I am working on |
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To officially take that responsibility |
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Of the PR person |
20:57 |
walterbender |
UTC 21 is about 3 minutes from now :) |
20:57 |
CanoeBerry |
Whoever receives pr sugarlabs.org let's also publish that/those name(s) somewhere. |
20:57 |
walterbender |
But I will read the backlog |
20:57 |
MrBIOS |
CanoeBerry: fully agreed :) |
20:58 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
CanoeBerry: seconded |
20:58 |
walterbender |
if I am on that list, which I may well be, I have seen zero traffic in years |
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20:58 |
CanoeBerry |
I need to leave after an hour now, hope we're almost done! |
20:58 |
samsongoddy |
Yes |
20:58 |
MrBIOS |
back to the goals for a moment, I would like to address one now that Walter is here |
20:59 |
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James Cameron submitted “Maintain in working order the Sugar desktop and a core set of Sugar activities against the two popular and always changing Linux distributions; Fedora and Debian.” |
20:59 |
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To me, there is no other goal that should be considered higher priority than the one above. It is fundamental to the continued existence of Sugar Labs as a meaningful thing |
20:59 |
walterbender |
+1 to that goal... but given that we are short handed it means perhaps giving up on other maintenance goals. |
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MrBIOS, I don't disagree, but I don't see them as mutually exclusive |
21:00 |
MrBIOS |
that’s possible, but there may be other ways to skin that particular cat |
21:00 |
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GSoC is helping us greatly in this regard |
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but James should not feel as if he is the only one who cares about it |
21:01 |
Claudia |
+1 |
21:01 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, /me made a big effort to ensure that a large portion of the GSoC effort was focused on that |
21:01 |
sverma |
Without going into details about cat skinning, both Flatpak and Snap can further that goal quite nicely, compared to apt and yum approaches in the past. |
21:01 |
walterbender |
although personally I have not contributed many reviews |
21:02 |
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sverma, this have been brought up many times... we can learn, for example from the way that Endless is building their systems |
21:02 |
sverma |
http://flatpak.org |
21:02 |
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http;//snapcraft.io |
21:02 |
MrBIOS |
sverma: agreed, in theory. |
21:03 |
walterbender |
not familiar with snapscraft |
21:03 |
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but it is one thing to propose something and another to do it |
21:03 |
MrBIOS |
walterbender: Ubuntu Snap is the underlying concept/technology |
21:04 |
walterbender |
has been using Ubuntu again lately on his day job |
21:04 |
sverma |
Both snapcraft and flatpak are similar in the problem they are trying to solve. Approaches are different. |
21:05 |
MrBIOS |
As an aside, I have been working on an up-to-date Ubuntu-derived distro for the XO-1, which may be worth discussing elsewhere, outside of the context of this meeting |
21:05 |
walterbender |
sverma, for GSoC, James and I put together projects around Python 3 and GTK3 conversion (this is independent of how we build) |
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this is because the Python 2 and GTK 2 worlds have a shelf life |
21:06 |
Claudia |
hello everyone. I have been here in the background... fully here now |
21:06 |
MrBIOS |
and they’re basically done. 2019 will be the final year where Python 2 dies off in distros, most likely, given that 2020 is the year Python 2 ceases to have any work done on it at all. |
21:07 |
samsongoddy |
Hello Claudia |
21:07 |
walterbender |
We need someone to do something similar for flatpack if the work is going to get done |
21:07 |
sverma |
OK |
21:07 |
walterbender |
and someone willing to mentor it |
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the mentoring bits are as important or more important than anything else |
21:07 |
MrBIOS |
walterbender: it should be possible to fully automate the creation of the flatpaks |
21:07 |
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we have the infrastructure to do it |
21:07 |
sverma |
I've dabbled with snap for packaging Pathagar. It's fairly straightforward. |
21:08 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, (1) who knows how to do it and (2) will they do it and (3) will it be something we can maintain? |
21:08 |
Claudia |
it would be good to determine what types of Activities |
21:08 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, just like anything else... |
21:08 |
MrBIOS |
walterbender: I don’t know how to do it, but it’s something I’d be willing to help with, but absolutely not something I am willing to do solo. I personally think this would be a great task for a college intern. |
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and I don’t believe figuring out how is the problem here :) |
21:09 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, unfortunately we missed the GSoC window |
21:09 |
sverma |
I have to run off to another meeting. I'll catch up with the log later. |
21:09 |
Claudia |
bye, sverma |
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21:09 |
Claudia |
HI samsongoddy |
21:09 |
samsongoddy |
Hello |
21:09 |
MrBIOS |
walterbender: that doesn’t need to be our only source of external talent, though, does it? |
21:09 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Welcome Claudia |
21:10 |
samsongoddy |
SSoc? |
21:10 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, but if we think it is pressing, maybe we can recruit an intern out of band |
21:10 |
MrBIOS |
that is what I am thinking as well, and I think it’s worth it |
21:10 |
walterbender |
But I think we should offer a GSOC-like stipend and ensure that they get mentoring |
21:10 |
samsongoddy |
Agreed |
21:10 |
MrBIOS |
completely agreed, it would be money well spent, but there would need to be minimal accountability. |
21:11 |
Claudia |
hi ifeanyiekperi__ |
21:11 |
walterbender |
I will gladly try to recruit someone if we have consensus on a mentor(s) and the stipend |
21:11 |
Claudia |
+1 to the stipend |
21:11 |
samsongoddy |
Agreed on the stipend too |
21:12 |
MrBIOS |
walterbender: I volunteer to mentor with regards to packaging |
21:12 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
+1 for the stipend |
21:12 |
MrBIOS |
it’s my wheelhouse |
21:12 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, maybe you and Sameer can write up a short project description and then we can post it a la GSoC |
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GSoC ends in 1 month and there are some good ones we may be able to hold on to for something like this |
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21:13 |
walterbender |
I could raise it as a possibility at the GSoC meeting next week. |
21:13 |
Claudia |
great, walterbender |
21:13 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
From those worked with in GSOC, it would be a hard deal trying to find the best candidate I guess |
21:13 |
samsongoddy |
Awesome |
21:13 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
*wouldn't |
21:13 |
walterbender |
has a few candidates in mind |
21:14 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Nice to know. |
21:16 |
samsongoddy |
Any other comments re: #goals |
21:16 |
GrannieB |
Glad we are getting back on track with the goals |
21:16 |
samsongoddy |
Me too |
21:17 |
MrBIOS |
anyways, back to PR for a moment, does anyone here know many people are subscribed to the Sugar Labs Newsletter? I think a goal should be to have the current SLOBs at least know how that works |
21:17 |
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I know nothing of it, other than it’s hosted via MailChimp |
21:17 |
samsongoddy |
Yes |
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I have a knowledge of thay |
21:17 |
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*that |
21:18 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, I stopped writing my monthly newsletter after the relentnes troll attacks I was subject to... |
21:18 |
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but maybe I could get back into the habit... |
21:18 |
MrBIOS |
walterbender: yeah, that troll has passed, perhaps we need to re-visit it |
21:18 |
samsongoddy |
yes |
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Agreed |
21:18 |
Claudia |
I thought those were great... miss them |
21:18 |
walterbender |
It was exhausting at the time |
21:19 |
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But you are correct |
21:19 |
MrBIOS |
samsongoddy, can you share with us when the last time a newsletter announcement went out? Just curious, since it’s a resource I suspect we are not utilizing much, if at all |
21:19 |
walterbender |
and I think a regular voice is much missed |
21:19 |
MrBIOS |
Claudia: I agree, they were very much so :) |
21:19 |
samsongoddy |
We haven't actually used it |
21:19 |
walterbender |
there is a lot of material for a monthly... |
21:19 |
samsongoddy |
Like send a letter |
21:19 |
MrBIOS |
especially during GSoC timeframe |
21:20 |
samsongoddy |
It was included middle last year |
21:20 |
MrBIOS |
samsongoddy: how many people are subscribed? |
21:20 |
samsongoddy |
I will revisit and send but not too many |
21:20 |
MrBIOS |
samsongoddy: that’s good info, it means anyone who has bothered to subscribe has done so in non-ancient times |
21:20 |
walterbender |
If we are going to send out a formatted newsletter, please, I beg of you, that we take some care to make it look professional |
21:21 |
MrBIOS |
oif course, it should not get blasted off without some consensus |
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21:21 |
MrBIOS |
that would be highly unfortunate |
21:21 |
samsongoddy |
Agreed |
21:21 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9CdG6rBB |
21:21 |
MrBIOS |
does anyone know who created the newsletter on MailChimp, and who actually has control/access to it? |
21:21 |
samsongoddy |
I do |
21:21 |
MrBIOS |
that should be documented on the wiki somewhere, if it is not already |
21:22 |
samsongoddy |
Was a mentor of the project |
21:23 |
MrBIOS |
is it documented anywhere? Wiki? |
21:23 |
samsongoddy |
None that I know of |
21:23 |
walterbender |
I think a simple schedule |
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All copy due at the first Friday of the month (coincident with the SLOB meeting) |
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Quick consensus on the news budget |
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a week to copy edit |
21:24 |
Claudia |
I vote for simple and well written... |
21:24 |
walterbender |
and to "press" on the ides |
21:25 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
A goal for at least a monthly newsletter consisting of: A catchy headline, news about SL, new and updated projects etc |
21:25 |
walterbender |
is willing to copyedit |
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and write some content |
21:25 |
samsongoddy |
Also fetch some news about Sugar Labs from the internet |
21:25 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Well designed to attract the reader at first sight tok |
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*too |
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21:25 |
walterbender |
is way behind on another writing project :P |
21:26 |
Claudia |
I don't know much about the current format |
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21:27 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Email marketing is powerful and effective. Shouldn't be second on the list of our means of marketing, glad it would be revived |
21:29 |
samsongoddy |
Any last comments? |
21:29 |
walterbender |
who is the lead to make this happen? |
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will a plan be published for the community? |
21:30 |
samsongoddy |
Target members |
21:30 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
walterbender: I guess that would be you since you're familiar with the newsletter setup, I can also help if you wish |
21:31 |
samsongoddy |
We have emails from membership |
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So what we need to do is import? I guess |
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To MailChimp as to get members to receive updates from the community |
21:32 |
walterbender |
OK. I'll propose a structure |
21:32 |
samsongoddy |
Great |
21:32 |
walterbender |
and I will be dictatorial about the formatting |
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anything else for today? |
21:33 |
samsongoddy |
Yes |
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TA day |
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Last i think |
21:33 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Great |
21:33 |
samsongoddy |
#TurtleArtDay |
21:34 |
walterbender |
#topic Turtle Art Day |
21:34 |
samsongoddy |
Two opportunities |
21:34 |
MrBIOS |
walterbender: I propose further discsussion/organization of the newsletter happens on marketing sugarlabs.org |
21:34 |
samsongoddy |
Adiss Abba |
21:34 |
walterbender |
MrBIOS, OK. I'll send a proposal there |
21:34 |
Claudia |
I can help, walterbender |
21:35 |
samsongoddy |
addis ababa |
21:35 |
Quozl |
. |
21:35 |
samsongoddy |
And Nigeria |
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For Nigeria |
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I have been making some plans especially on my state |
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Rivers State |
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I recently have a close door meeting with the Deputy Governor |
21:36 |
MrBIOS |
Claudia: please make sure you are subscribed the the marketing list in that case, see lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/ |
21:36 |
walterbender |
will CC iaep |
21:36 |
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and Sur |
21:36 |
samsongoddy |
TA day will kick off in 2/3 cities |
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In Nigeria |
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Lagos |
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Port Harcourt |
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And Uyo |
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Port Harcourt is very promising |
21:37 |
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As Walter will be scheduled to have a meeting with the government |
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Re: improving ICT on education |
21:37 |
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So Sugar/izer |
21:37 |
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Can come in schools |
21:38 |
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Dates will be share with the community when walter confirm his visit |
21:38 |
Claudia |
Re: improving learning supported by the use of tech tools |
21:38 |
samsongoddy |
Thanks |
21:39 |
walterbender |
samsongoddy, Mid-August will work... but only one week. |
21:39 |
samsongoddy |
Yes |
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I send a calendar for one week |
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*sent |
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walterbender |
samsongoddy, but I don't scale... so the dependency on my visiting is a long-term bug |
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maybe we can use flatpack |
21:40 |
samsongoddy |
i didn't get that |
21:40 |
walterbender |
It was a geek joke about dependencies |
21:41 |
samsongoddy |
Also two days ago |
21:41 |
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I got a ping |
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To come down to Ethopia |
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two weeks of August |
21:41 |
walterbender |
samsongoddy, I am only just ending a really intense work week |
21:42 |
samsongoddy |
To cover Turtle Blocks |
21:42 |
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Yeah you mentioned that |
21:42 |
MrBIOS |
An aside (follow-up from earlier, not meant to derail current subject of discussion), the link to the press page in the footer of the sugarlabs.org website has been removed, see https://github.com/sugarlabs/w[…]ugarlabs/pull/222 |
21:42 |
samsongoddy |
Hopefully we can start with the visa processing |
21:43 |
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I have a concern to share |
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Publicly |
21:43 |
walterbender |
we are waiting... |
21:43 |
samsongoddy |
I ran into issues of fronting of funds on the last motion |
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Hopefully it don't get to happen again |
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Claudia |
what can we do yo avoid it? |
21:45 |
samsongoddy |
Ask SFC |
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To give me money on contract |
21:45 |
MrBIOS |
how long was the delay last time? |
21:46 |
samsongoddy |
It too much for me to borrow from friends |
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And ask for reimbursement |
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I am currently facing issues |
21:46 |
walterbender |
-1 |
21:46 |
samsongoddy |
On having to repay some of my friends I asked to front |
21:47 |
Claudia |
did you use the template they gave you? |
21:47 |
samsongoddy |
Yes, submitted reimbursement |
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That part is gone |
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I am more concern about the rest funds |
21:47 |
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Regarding TA day as it shouldn't go through same process |
21:48 |
Claudia |
I only know what I saw in the email |
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21:50 |
walterbender |
needs to head to the airport |
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will read the back log |
21:50 |
samsongoddy |
Okay |
21:50 |
Claudia |
safe travels, walterbender |
21:50 |
samsongoddy |
Safe travels |
21:50 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Safe travels walterbender |
21:51 |
samsongoddy |
Any more comments before I end the meeting |
21:51 |
Claudia |
I recommend we ask Karen about process before any expense |
21:52 |
samsongoddy |
+1 |
21:52 |
Claudia |
cc Bradley and SLOBs |
21:52 |
Quozl |
i concur with MrBIOS that without maintaining sugar, not much else can happen. |
21:52 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
+1 to avoid any form of delay from SFC in dispacting necessary funds |
21:53 |
Claudia |
+1, Quozl |
21:53 |
Quozl |
i also add that my guess is that about 10% of sugar works as it once did. falling behind fast. |
21:53 |
MrBIOS |
if it means you have to spend some money to make that happen, so be it |
21:53 |
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s/you/SugarLabs/g |
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samsongoddy |
If nothing else |
21:54 |
Quozl |
but don't take my word for it, investigate. ;-) |
21:55 |
samsongoddy |
6 minutes to go |
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Before I close the meeting |
21:55 |
ifeanyiekperi__ |
Very correct @Quozl |
21:58 |
samsongoddy |
Claudia, how is Colombia? |
21:58 |
Claudia |
good |
21:58 |
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vacation |
21:58 |
samsongoddy |
Nice, saw your pics on Instagram |
21:58 |
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Great shot |
21:59 |
Claudia |
thanks |
21:59 |
MrBIOS |
who ends the meeting? |
22:00 |
samsongoddy |
Me |
22:00 |
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In one minute |
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