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#sugar-meeting meeting, 2018-05-01 21:00:08

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21:00 meeting Meeting started Tue May  1 21:00:08 2018 UTC. The chair is Quozl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
21:00 Quozl #topic what we have been working on
21:00 walterbender has been working on syncing up the Python and Javascript versions of turtleblocks
21:01 Pro-Panda I have been busy with my exams preparation.
21:01 was studying microprocessors if that counts ;-)
21:02 yashagrawal3 exams/Making a personal blog website.
21:02 Quozl hi guys.  i've been working on the gtk+ 3 port of the record activity.  also updated the ubuntu install docs for sugar and evaluated the impact of the very late change by ubuntu to remove the rsvg library just before final release.
21:03 walterbender did it break calculate?
21:03 Quozl Pro-Panda: cool, if you have any questions on microprocessors, just ask.  my favourites are Z80, VAX, 8085, ARM, AVR and PIC.
21:04 walterbender: no, it was the static gtk+2 variant of the library that was removed, the pygobject gtk+ 3 variant of rsvg remains.
21:04 Pro-Panda Quozl: Sure :D, although our academic curriculum is a bit old :"(
21:04 Quozl Pro-Panda: so am i.  ;-)
21:05 Pro-Panda Quozl: hehe ;-)
21:05 Quozl Pro-Panda: i meant your understanding, not your test questions though.  ;-)
21:07 Pro-Panda Quozl: Alright :)
21:07 Quozl Pro-Panda: anyway, what we do with sugar does _eventually_ map onto microprocessors.  the intel i386 and x86_64 platforms are based on microprocessors.
21:07 anyone else here with a "what we have been working on?"
21:08 #topic possibly move next meeting time
21:09 walterbender My preference is the 7AM ET slot
21:09 Pro-Panda I am equally comfortable with any of the slots.
21:10 Quozl yashagrawal3: your preference?
21:11 okay, moving on, any other topics?  or general discussion?
21:11 yashagrawal3 I am also comfortable with both
21:11 Quozl yashagrawal3: thanks.
21:14 i've a small question; has anyone seen a problem with a GStreamer 1.0 xvimagesink or autovideosink inside a GTK+ window which is then moved and resized?  it used to follow the resize, now it does not.
21:15 (for the moment, if i can't fix it, the tiny thumbnail sized live view overlay will be removed in the port).
21:15 walterbender this is for record?
21:16 Quozl yes, i don't know of another activity that uses video or camera as a source, display as a sink, and yet resizes the display window.
21:17 I'm going to try the GStreamer Webcam example to see if I can make it work.
21:17 walterbender nope... but maybe on of the old .UY activities? But they were not ported to 1.0 AFAIK
21:18 Quozl no worries, thanks.
21:18 i've nothing further for the meeting.  any other questions?
21:18 Pro-Panda None from me
21:18 walterbender You can resize the camera capture in turtle and move it around
21:18 I have a request from satellit
21:19 he is concerned about a SoaS Fedora 28 bug
21:19 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sh[…]ug.cgi?id=1519042
21:19 opens in Journal
21:19 Quozl it's not a fedora bug.
21:20 walterbender is it a Sugar bug?
21:20 Quozl https://github.com/sugarlabs/s[…]t-gtk3/issues/368
21:20 yes, it's a toolkit and gtk+ interaction.  possibly in gtk+, possibly in toolkit, not yet sure.
21:20 but as it reproduces outside sugar, and outside fedora, it has nothing to do with the shell or fedora.
21:21 it affects every distribution that updates gtk+.
21:23 anyway, it's a lovely problem that has a clear plan, and i'll get onto it by december, so if anyone is interested in it before then, try the plan.
21:24 walterbender :)
21:24 Pro-Panda will give it a try after exams ;-)
21:24 yashagrawal3 will also look into it
21:24 Quozl when i drop a big plan like that, it means there's a good chance i won't get onto it soon.  ;-)
21:25 amanharitsh123 reacted with a confused emoji.  great.  that tells me nothing.  ;-}
21:26 #topic sugar3.activity.iconify does not work, sugar starts to journal not home view
21:26 Pro-Panda: yashagrawal3: thanks, any questions use the issue.
21:26 Pro-Panda Sure
21:27 Quozl i've nothing further for the meeting. any other questions?
21:27 walterbender Quozl, yes
21:27 a quick question about Browse
21:28 I am unable to get the new version of Music Blocks to run in Browse but I see nothing relevant in the logs.
21:28 Is there some other location for console output I should be looking at?
21:29 Quozl walterbender: i don't know, sorry.  i've not debugged a javascript application yet with browse.  i think there is something in webkit that can be enabled, and it might already be in browse, but i don't remember how to use it.  might you git bisect music blocks instead?  does browse run music blocks on web?
21:30 unimauro <unimauro!bee82f82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.> has joined #sugar-meeting
21:30 walterbender It ran the old verison
21:30 but not the new version
21:30 Quozl so that's great, you've got a hash for "git bisect good" and "... bad".
21:30 walterbender but I updates lots of libraries: Easel, Tone...
21:30 Quozl you'll be able to isolate to a commit.
21:31 walterbender will give it a go...
21:31 Quozl maximum number of tests is roughly log base 2 of number of commits
21:31 walterbender I have the usual gang of suspects which should reduce the search space
21:32 Quozl in my experience with kernel commit logs with tens of thousands of commits, sometimes the answer is found more quickly.
21:33 i've nothing further for the meeting. any other questions?
21:33 walterbender not from me
21:33 Pro-Panda +1
21:33 Quozl #topic browse vs music blocks
21:33 okay, let's close the meeting, all in favour please +1, walterbender yashagrawal3 Pro-Panda.
21:34 Pro-Panda +1
21:34 yashagrawal3 +1
21:35 walterbender +1
21:35 Quozl #endmeeting
21:35 meeting Meeting ended Tue May  1 21:35:12 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4)
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