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#sugar-meeting meeting, 2017-06-12 14:00:27

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14:00 meeting Meeting started Mon Jun 12 14:00:27 2017 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
14:00 tharangi Hi all...
14:00 Sanjay <Sanjay!~webchat@rev-18-85-44-69.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting
14:00 mohayon Hello everyone
14:01 Raphaelt[m] hello
14:01 walterbender shall we get started?
14:01 Seetarama Hello everyone!!
14:01 tarunsinghal92 yup
14:01 Sanjay Hello all
14:01 Seetarama yes walterbender
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14:01 walterbender tarunsinghal92, please tell us about your week
14:01 tarunsinghal92 ok walterbender
14:02 I was working on modifying API to accompany auth and other changes
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14:02 Tabs16 hello
14:03 tarunsinghal92 i have completed auth, added admin/student role in users collection to take care dashboard and client side
14:03 walterbender tarunsinghal92, sounds good
14:03 tarunsinghal92 added filtering, sorting in activities and users api
14:03 pikurasa <pikurasa!~devin@c-71-232-12-24.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has joined #sugar-meeting
14:03 walterbender any issues?
14:03 pragr07 hi Tabs16
14:03 pikurasa hi
14:03 Tabs16 hi pragr07
14:03 hi all
14:03 tarunsinghal92 changed the unit testing using chai and mocha to accomodate
14:03 actual route testing
14:04 Seetarama hi Tabs16
14:04 walterbender +1 to testing
14:04 tarunsinghal92 earlier we were calling routes from inside using fake res/req, now it test the system like actual routes
14:04 with status codes etc
14:05 i should be done with journals API modification along with its unit cases in a day or 2
14:05 update code is available on https://github.com/tarunsingha[…]/sugarizer-server
14:05 walterbender great
14:05 tarunsinghal92 my blog related to this should be updated soon
14:05 walterbender any questions for tarunsinghal92 ?
14:06 tarunsinghal92 also, written code for stats routes...though it has some bugs but will sort them soon
14:06 walterbender thanks for the update tarunsinghal92
14:07 tarunsinghal92 thanks walterbender
14:07 walterbender Seetarama, please tell us about your week?
14:07 Seetarama yes walterbender
14:08 walterbender ...
14:08 Seetarama, ???
14:09 Seetarama walterbender: writing it in a single line
14:09 might take 1-2 min
14:09 is it ok?
14:10 cristinadp <cristinadp!1806e524@gateway/web/freenode/ip.> has joined #sugar-meeting
14:10 pikurasa ( updates https://sandbox.musicblocks.ne[…]harangi/index.php )
14:10 ( HEAD is now at a11109d... adding links to music blocks github pages )
14:11 walterbender Seetarama, let us know when you are ready
14:11 Seetarama walterbender: my week in a single line- by tomorrow the main goals are to complete the main design of the website, try adding new pages , try adding content. The main design is done with few minor add-ons, focussing on adding 2 new pages "sugar labs culture page" and "press resources page" which exsits in the original website. Almost done adding the 2 new pages and will post the changes tomorrow.
14:11 walterbender Seetarama, is there a link you can share with the group?
14:12 Seetarama yes walterbender
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14:12 cristinadp hi all! sorry I'm late
14:12 Seetarama repository: https://github.com/geekrypter/[…]bsWebsiteRedesign
14:13 website: https://geekrypter.github.io/s[…]sWebsiteRedesign/
14:14 pikurasa looks at Seetarama's website
14:14 walterbender Seetarama, has anyone tested on the Sugar browser?
14:14 JatinD[noreply] Hello
14:15 Seetarama Not yet sir
14:15 walterbender Seetarama, maybe everyone can give you feedback this week.
14:15 Seetarama, it is important to test that
14:15 JatinD[noreply] Sorry for being late
14:16 zeecoder hi everyone
14:16 Seetarama walterbender: After adding few initial pages, after tomorrow, major focus will be on the testing part
14:16 walterbender JatinD[noreply], cristinadp there is a backlog on the server you can read when you have a chance.
14:16 Seetarama, +1
14:17 cristinadp I just did it... thanks walterbender
14:17 pikurasa "20,000 cups of coffee?"
14:17 walterbender Seetarama, also, I think you are underestimating the # of cups of coffee consumed in the development of Sugar :)
14:18 any questions for Seetarama ?
14:18 pikurasa Seetarama: it looks nice so far
14:18 Seetarama Everyone, you can give feedback/comments on https://github.com/sugarlabs/w[…]garlabs/issues/63 and also do check out my blog at: https://psramarajugsocblog.wordpress.com/
14:18 thanks pikurasa
14:18 JatinD[noreply] walterbender:  Thanks, Just did that :)
14:18 walterbender abhijitp, can you please give an update?
14:19 Seetarama the 20,000 cups of coffee was just a placeholder fact for temporary display :)
14:19 will add an awesome related to sugar labs as I progress forward
14:19 abhijitp yep.. rishabh gave me his update before
14:19 Seetarama *awesome fact
14:19 abhijitp this is what he said: was still working on that issue( the dbus one), tried to build it with a couple of different scripts but that gconf2 and dbus error still persists. Wrote a blog post this week and I'm working on another post. Will document the error and probably have a meeting with James/Jonas
14:20 pikurasa JatinD[noreply]: cristinadp http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2017-06-12
14:21 JatinD[noreply] pikurasa: Thanks for the link :) , I am using Matrix so I also have a personal copy
14:21 abhijitp walterbender: rishabh is on cruise, so he is having some connectivity issues..
14:22 walterbender abhijitp, OK
14:22 you have his report?
14:22 abhijitp rishabh's blog: sugaronraspberrypi.wordpress.com
14:23 walterbender abhijitp, any issues we should be disucssing?
14:23 abhijitp yep.. rishabh is stuck with an dbus issue..
14:23 hoping to have a meet with james asap
14:25 walterbender +1
14:26 abhijitp, thanks for filling in for rishabh
14:26 HrishiP <HrishiP!uid200307@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnuabwsirfmddkkv> has joined #sugar-meeting
14:26 abhijitp walterbender: ur welcome :)
14:26 HrishiP: do u want to add anything?
14:27 HrishiP I just came, what's up
14:27 abhijitp check the logs and see if i missed something :)
14:27 HrishiP I just came, what's up 14:30UTC yeah?
14:27 walterbender HrishiP, we just got a summary of the RPi project
14:27 HrishiP wait a sec
14:28 No logs available
14:28 abhijitp, can u email me the logs?
14:29 pikurasa HrishiP: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2017-06-12
14:29 HrishiP Strange, this wan't highlited in calendar :d Thanks
14:29 walterbender http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]ng/meetings/today works too
14:30 we could continue
14:30 HrishiP okay walterbender
14:30 walterbender tharangi, please give us an update
14:31 HrishiP So, there have been various errors, and we have fixed quite of a few. I've been very active on this issue but this just doesn't leave
14:31 walterbender : any idea of dbus-session-bus error
14:31 pikurasa HrishiP: what is "this issue"?
14:32 tharangi You can find the updated source code from here - https://github.com/Tharangi/Mu[…]rManual-GSoC-2017
14:32 HrishiP pikurasa : dependency errors (when cofiguring packages)
14:32 pikurasa tharangi: I updated https://sandbox.musicblocks.ne[…].php?page=welcome to most current, BTW
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14:32 tharangi Worked on keeping the expanded menu when rendering back and some CSS changes.
14:32 HrishiP pikurasa, tharangi, walterbender : So we are using PHP, yes?
14:32 tharangi Thanks Pikurasa. I saw that :D
14:33 It took a long time to prepare the images where sometimes I had to get the SVG images from music blocks source code and convert that back to the PNG images and also cropping. 
14:33 HrishiP walterbender : was wondering what happens if this issue isn't something we can solve, and only can be solved by some other team, in that case we have to change the timeline of project?
14:33 pikurasa tharangi: The menus look nice. What is the next step for the menus?
14:33 walterbender HrishiP, I thought we were going to try to avoid php
14:33 pikurasa tharangi: where you did use the SVG images, they look very nice.
14:33 HrishiP walterbender : tharangi mentioned some uses last time
14:34 walterbender : like saving webpages to PDF directly, which can't be done in JS directly
14:35 pikurasa maybe the PHP could be limited AND the code could be functional (enough) without it.
14:36 thoughts?
14:36 HrishiP walterbender : so what can we do about Rishabh's issue
14:37 pikurasa : We are trying to limit it yeah?
14:37 walterbender HrishiP, I need to look at the logs from the build
14:37 tharangi That's what we dicussed earlier too.right.. I am okay to change the technologies if it is needed.
14:37 pikurasa tharangi: what do you have in mind for the menus? Are the blocks links, or are the more featured? (e.g. dragging, for example)
14:37 HrishiP wait, will post here  :
14:37 walterbender tharangi, let's focus on the content for the moment
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14:38 walterbender my overall impression is that we need some "quick start" secion
14:38 section
14:38 since there is sooo much information here
14:38 a bit overwhelming
14:38 pikurasa walterbender: tharangi maybe a quick start button
14:39 so if someone sees it the first time, they can click "I wanna try MB"
14:39 walterbender pikurasa, that takes you to the program
14:39 but it is not a quick start guide
14:40 HrishiP walterbender : https://paste.fedoraproject.or[…]bti-S19XmrrqycX-w
14:40 pikurasa question is, should it run a more limited version?
14:40 tony37_ <tony37_!~webchat@rev-18-85-44-69.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting
14:40 walterbender pikurasa, I don't think so
14:40 pikurasa walterbender: yes, I was not suggesting taking someone to the program immediately
14:40 walterbender I think it should introduce a limited set of essentials
14:41 pikurasa walterbender: yes, that is fine
14:41 (same end result)
14:41 HrishiP pikurasa : wouldn't like to limit functinality
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14:41 pikurasa walterbender: please tell us what you have in mind
14:42 HrishiP: sorry, that is not what I meant
14:42 HrishiP pikurasa : limited version?
14:42 pikurasa HrishiP: nevermind
14:42 walterbender pikurasa, I think a description of the very basic blocks (and menu items) needed to make some music
14:42 HrishiP :D
14:43 pikurasa it follows with some of the lessons I came up with, which feature different concepts
14:43 walterbender and then a few embellishments, like action stacks and loops
14:43 cristinadp I agree with walterbender
14:43 HrishiP pikurasa : got it
14:44 cristinadp It would be useful to have a quick introduction on how to make a sound, etc
14:44 walterbender pikurasa, maybe is a short video?
14:44 pikurasa so, what I had in mind is starting with tempo and beat as lesson 1 (perhaps what the mouse is and what a script is even before that)
14:44 students experience fast/slow with tempo
14:44 then the add/subtract beats
14:45 HrishiP Thought : the download MB button shouldn't redirect to github.
14:45 pikurasa I made some .tb files which are a starting point for something where these concepts could be explored
14:45 HrishiP Maybe a direct link to download or another downloading mirror
14:45 walterbender pikurasa, I think a quick start guide is a bit different than introductory lesson plans
14:46 pikurasa walterbender: oh, okay. I am in "how to create a manual" mindset at the moment
14:46 ...
14:46 sure, we could do a 3-4 min video for a "quick start"
14:46 walterbender pikurasa, I think we need three things:
14:46 (1) quick start
14:46 (2) the details
14:47 (3) lesson plans
14:47 pikurasa walterbender: okay, tracking in on your thinking now
14:48 walterbender we should continue the meeting
14:48 JatinD[noreply], ???
14:48 JatinD[noreply] walterbender: Yes
14:48 pikurasa tharangi: good job. please send reply to my latest email when you have chance
14:48 tharangi I will consider all your thoughts!
14:49 I saw that. And still didn't get some points you have mentioned.
14:49 I will reply to you in email.
14:50 JatinD[noreply] So I worked on the backend of  the aslo, went really deep into the docker stuff : |
14:50 scg is working on making a detailed and fool proof backend design
14:50 walterbender JatinD[noreply], sound great
14:50 JatinD[noreply] Last week I added the docker integration, SamToday's code was really helpful
14:51 I would say the sugar toolkit needs some documentation to setup it up
14:51 HrishiP pikurasa : what do you think?
14:52 pikurasa HrishiP: think about what?
14:52 JatinD[noreply] Also we are using mongodb to store all the manifest details. Configparser -> Dict -> Json -> Mongo Record
14:52 HrishiP pikurasa : ^^
14:52 walterbender JatinD[noreply], not sure what the toolkit has to do with it.  creating bundles?
14:52 HrishiP Thought : the download MB button shouldn't redirect to github.
14:53 pikurasa HrishiP: yes, direct downlink would be better.
14:53 HrishiP: If I found myself on github without knowing what it was, I would be confused
14:53 JatinD[noreply] We will have a good design by this Tuesday. I am having issues with where to draw the boundary between backend and isolated build bot but I hope to resolve it by Tuesday
14:53 tharangi Direct download link in the sense?
14:54 walterbender JatinD[noreply], sounds good
14:54 HrishiP pikurasa : that's what I thought, would be confusing for newbies
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14:54 JatinD[noreply] walterbender:  This toolkit https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3 . Yes
14:54 HrishiP Hello Rishabh42_
14:54 walterbender Rishabh42_, http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]ng/meetings/today
14:54 JatinD[noreply], got it.
14:55 any questions for JatinD[noreply] ?
14:55 Rishabh42_ hey everyone, I'm having connectivity issues
14:55 HrishiP We can use sourforge? (walterbender, tharangi, pikurasa)
14:55 Tabs16 hi Rishabh42_
14:55 HrishiP *sourceforge
14:55 Rishabh42_ hey Tabs16
14:55 walterbender HrishiP, sourceforrge for what?
14:55 JatinD[noreply] A pip package would be huge plus, since we can just do pip install sugar-toolkit instead of manually copying src to python packages directory
14:56 pikurasa moves the MB conversation to #sugar
14:56 HrishiP walterbender : download MB?
14:56 walterbender HrishiP, sure... but cannot we also just download a .zip directly from github?
14:56 pikurasa walterbender: +1, that must be possible
14:57 HrishiP https://codeload.github.com/wa[…]blocks/zip/master ?
14:57 walterbender HrishiP, yes
14:57 JatinD[noreply] Yes we can but then we have to move the package to the right directory /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/
14:58 walterbender meanwhile, back to the meeting
14:58 JatinD[noreply], makes sense
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14:59 walterbender we need to get to everyone else...
14:59 pragr07, can you please give an update?
15:00 pragr07 So this week I looked upon he Synth code
15:00 inside musicutils.js
15:00 *the
15:01 Also, I had a look at the design doc made by Ayush during GCI
15:01 walterbender what did you conclude?
15:01 pragr07 I feel, there are a few modifications that are to be made as per the UI is concerned
15:01 for the "set-timbre" and "timbre" clamps
15:02 I am trying to make a few sketches for the same
15:02 walterbender please keep Tabs16 in the loop :)
15:02 pragr07 sure
15:03 pikurasa pragr07: any blog?
15:03 pragr07 not yet
15:03 i will blog for the last and this wek together
15:04 *week
15:04 walterbender pragr07, thanks for the update.
15:04 pikurasa pragr07: please, and add some detail and reflection
15:04 walterbender pragr07, maybe we can share the discussion in #sugar with Tabs16 and pikurasa
15:05 pragr07 pikurasa: ok
15:05 walterbender Tabs16, can you give us an update too?
15:05 Tabs16 sure walterbender :D
15:05 https://tabs16blog.wordpress.c[…]ith-sugar-labs-3/ my blog update
15:06 I am working on the UI
15:06 code update : https://github.com/Tabs16/musi[…]ree/Timbre_Widget
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15:06 walterbender Tabs16, is there something to see re the UI?
15:06 Tabs16 I am encountering a code prob as of now
15:06 pikurasa has not seen the new timbre widget code yet, so checks
15:07 Tabs16 I have made some necessary blocks , like ADSR , source , etc
15:07 walterbender Tabs16, I can help after the meeting
15:07 Tabs16 plus got it working right wrt the server
15:08 but seems like my code isn't invoking the init method of Timbre Widget
15:08 as of now
15:08 I would really like to discuss the reason as to why it is not working fine
15:09 walterbender Tabs16, if you share the link to your branch I will have a look after we finish here
15:09 Tabs16 from my local fork?
15:09 walterbender yes'
15:09 Tabs16 it's the same one
15:09 walterbender can you push it to github so I can clone it?
15:09 Tabs16 https://github.com/Tabs16/musi[…]ree/Timbre_Widget
15:10 walterbender will look
15:11 Tabs16 thanks walterbender  :)
15:11 walterbender meanwhile, any other questions for Tabs16 ?
15:11 zeecoder, can you give us an update?
15:11 zeecoder yes sure
15:12 pikurasa good work Tabs16!
15:12 zeecoder As you said yesterday I started with a new activity. DotsAndBoxes
15:12 But I am stuck on the audiograb.py in the turtle activity
15:12 Tabs16 thanks pikurasa  :)
15:12 walterbender zeecoder, maybe tell everyone about the progress
15:13 it is mostly working
15:13 zeecoder is being modest
15:14 zeecoder I completed the Gtk and the Gst porting of the TurtleArt activity, which is in working condition.
15:14 walterbender he got all the gtk3 code working for turtle
15:14 and some of the gst port (camera) done
15:14 Tabs16 great zeecoder ! :D
15:14 walterbender it is working very well
15:14 zeecoder But there are some issues with loudness block (Gst poritng)
15:14 Thanks :D
15:14 walterbender will try to figure out the audio-grab issues, which are also present in Measure
15:15 zeecoder, I also asked Alan, maintainer of turtlebots, the robotics extension of Turtle, to start testing
15:15 zeecoder Ok did he test it?
15:15 walterbender zeecoder, meanwhile, make progress on some of the activities
15:16 zeecoder I have started with the dotsandboxes
15:16 walterbender anything w/o Gst should be pretty easy for you now :)
15:17 zeecoder I hope so :)
15:17 walterbender zeecoder, actually, one other think I forgot to mention
15:17 we should move from gconf to gsettings
15:18 zeecoder Can you explain about it in a little detail?
15:19 walterbender zeecoder, the gconf mechanism is deprecated
15:19 so we should migrate to gsettings
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15:19 walterbender zeecoder, I can help you with this after the meeting
15:19 zeecoder Ok I will look into it.
15:20 walterbender zeecoder, thanks for the update
15:20 zeecoder Your welcome :)
15:20 walterbender did everyone get a chance to report?
15:20 I feel we missed someone
15:20 tony37_ sanjay?
15:20 Raphaelt[m] Can I ?
15:20 walterbender yes please
15:20 Raphaelt[m] Yes !
15:21 walterbender me missed two somebodies :P
15:21 Raphaelt[m],
15:21 Raphaelt[m] So I'm actually working on the Application Manager
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15:21 Raphaelt[m] It's for installing multiple apk file (Application) on mutlple device
15:22 That actually works but, I need to put a popup on the device to say what going on.
15:23 I change the architecture with a pattern MVP, and the injection of dependencies is done. I will write a blog after the meeting
15:23 walterbender +1
15:23 Raphaelt[m], any roadblocks?
15:23 tharangi has quit IRC
15:24 Raphaelt[m] Not really, I changed a little bit my logic. But I don't have any big probleme that i can't solve, so eveything is fine, right now
15:24 walterbender great work
15:24 keep it up
15:24 Raphaelt[m] Thank's walterbender
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15:25 walterbender tony37_, seems Sanjay is not here... do you have an update for him?
15:25 tony37_ No, does he have a blog link?
15:26 walterbender http://sanjaykumarap.blogspot.in/
15:26 tony37_ Thanks, I'll need to chase this down. I've been traveling and the last email was last Monday.
15:27 walterbender OK
15:27 anything else for today?
15:27 thanks everyone for all the work
15:28 and the reports
15:28 pikurasa yes, thank you! the momentum is picking up -- this is fun
15:28 tony37_ bye
15:28 walterbender #end-meeting
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