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Meeting started Mon May 8 13:00:19 2017 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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walterbender |
Welcome everyone |
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HrishiP |
Yes, it is exactly 13UTC |
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zeecoder_ |
yes |
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13:00 |
jatindhankhar |
Hello everyone |
13:00 |
walterbender |
We can keep today's meeting sort and focused |
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Rishabh42 |
yup |
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13:01 |
walterbender |
I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page getting started for the summer |
13:01 |
tony37 |
welcome jatin |
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Tabs16 |
hi pikurasa |
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pikurasa |
hi Tabs16 |
13:01 |
HrishiP |
okay walterbender, hello pikurasa, tony37 |
13:01 |
Rishabh42 |
hey pikurasa |
13:01 |
pikurasa |
Hi HrishiP and Rishabh42 |
13:01 |
zeecoder_ |
hi pikurasa |
13:01 |
walterbender |
The key is to ensure that everyone is connected to a mentor (or multiple mentors) |
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Does everyone know who their mentor is? |
13:02 |
tarunsinghal92 |
yes |
13:02 |
Tabs16 |
yes |
13:02 |
seetarama |
yes |
13:02 |
zeecoder_ |
yes |
13:02 |
Raphael |
yes |
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Rishabh42 |
yes |
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13:03 |
walterbender |
the devel community is also here to help. |
13:03 |
llaske |
hi all |
13:03 |
jatindhankhar |
Yes |
13:03 |
HrishiP |
walterbender, my name wasn't in each proejct, so a few students might not know me (2 projs) |
13:03 |
tarunsinghal92 |
hi Lionel |
13:03 |
Rishabh42 |
hil llaske |
13:03 |
HrishiP |
hi llaske |
13:03 |
Tabs16 |
hi llaske |
13:03 |
Raphael |
hi llaske |
13:03 |
walterbender |
HrishiP, I am hoping you'll help with 3 projects, actually :) |
13:04 |
HrishiP |
walterbender, well I have selected projects which I think I am capable of, thanks :D |
13:04 |
walterbender |
I have been doing GSoC for ~10years and the key to success is consistent communications |
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HrishiP, the Outreachy project may be of interest as well) |
13:05 |
HrishiP |
hmm |
13:05 |
seetarama |
hi everyone! happy to meet you all! |
13:05 |
walterbender |
So the most important thing to do in the next week is to establish a work flow with your mentors |
13:05 |
Tabs16 |
+1 |
13:05 |
walterbender |
find a regular set of times to meet and chat |
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2-3 times per week minimum |
13:05 |
HrishiP |
I heard that many students abandoned projects completely last time and were not seen. (not for only SL) |
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13:06 |
walterbender |
we had one student fail last year |
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lack of communication |
13:06 |
Tabs16 |
hi tharangi |
13:06 |
tharangi |
Hi |
13:06 |
walterbender |
hi tharangi |
13:06 |
Tabs16 |
this time we have three phase evaluation |
13:07 |
walterbender |
Tabs16, yes |
13:08 |
pikurasa |
Sometimes it is challenging to describe how the project should look in the end. That is because many times we are breaking new ground. Also, because it depends on everyone's skills and background to a certain degree. Also, it is sometimes challenging to describe what it is we are thinking of. When this happens, it might be helpful to write something up, mock something up, and ask "is this what you want"? (say it in your own words |
13:08 |
walterbender |
the calendar is posted |
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13:08 |
walterbender |
In the next few weeks we should try to revisit the proposals and firm them up |
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Tabs16 |
+1 |
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Rishabh42 |
+1 |
13:09 |
tarunsinghal92 |
+1 |
13:09 |
seetarama_ |
+1 |
13:09 |
jatindhankhar |
+1 |
13:09 |
walterbender |
back in 2 minutes |
13:09 |
HrishiP |
walterbender, what if student finds a project too hard? |
13:09 |
Tabs16 |
pikurasa: Many a time we are learning new things during the project or strengthening existing knowledge to make the project stand out, which is definitely the best part |
13:10 |
HrishiP |
I heard it is possible to change the projects if mentor, student and organization admin accept it |
13:10 |
pikurasa |
Tabs16: Great! What have you learned about music so far? |
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llaske |
HrishiP I don't think the student could find too hard if he has done a proposal on the project |
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jatindhankhar |
Hi, Although I am new to sugarlabs and I have talked to Tony about this. May I suggest slack (or alternates) for communication. One advantage that archive is available to each user while to log irc logs you have to be logged in all the time. Just a suggestion |
13:11 |
HrishiP |
llaske, hmm |
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Tabs16 |
pikurasa: Earlier I wasnt much acquainted with musical terms, now I can say I have some sense when it comes to music :D |
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I am sure I will become better and better |
13:12 |
walterbender |
is back |
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Tabs16 |
+1 jatindhankhar |
13:12 |
HrishiP |
jatindhankar, there are some IRC loggers available, or you can try different clients |
13:12 |
llaske |
Could every student confirm they already had a contact with their mentors ? |
13:12 |
walterbender |
I am babysitting my granddaughter today |
13:12 |
Tabs16 |
We dont get the logs |
13:12 |
walterbender |
and she needed a quick diaper change |
13:12 |
tharangi |
I also like @jatindhankar's idea. Slack channel would do better. |
13:12 |
llaske |
:-) |
13:13 |
tony37 |
last year we had meetings on sugar-newbies which is logged |
13:13 |
pikurasa |
Tabs16: Some musical terms are more specific to music and some are very similar to something in another discipline. |
13:13 |
walterbender |
llaske, what I would like to ask everyone to do is send me an email with a CC to their mentor(s) this week so we can confirm the communication is working |
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tony37, I am logging this meeting |
13:13 |
llaske |
ok walterbender, good idea |
13:13 |
tony37 |
ok |
13:13 |
HrishiP |
llaske, I havent had contact with seetarama or tharangi about projects |
13:13 |
walterbender |
the other issue is the meeting time |
13:13 |
Tabs16 |
pikurasa: Yes :) |
13:14 |
walterbender |
this is a bit early for some ( Cristinadp ) |
13:14 |
Rishabh42 |
walterbender, that's a good idea |
13:14 |
seetarama |
hi HrishiP |
13:14 |
walterbender |
I will send a survey to find a optimal time for the group meeting |
13:14 |
tony37 |
in may I am in the philippines. the time here is 9pm |
13:14 |
HrishiP |
hi seetarama |
13:14 |
walterbender |
tony37, would one hour later make a difference? |
13:14 |
Tabs16 |
in India, it is 6:44 pm |
13:15 |
walterbender |
would probably help Cristinadp a lot (she is on the US West coast) |
13:15 |
HrishiP |
no walterbender, it will be okay |
13:15 |
tony37 |
after my bedtime but it will be better in June as I will be in Europe |
13:15 |
tharangi |
Hi HirshiP.. I am doing User Manual for Music Blocks. |
13:15 |
walterbender |
a couple of other things: |
13:15 |
HrishiP |
tharangi : I know :D I am for the website part there |
13:15 |
walterbender |
(1) I will check with sam about sugar-devel |
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to ensure everyone is subscribed |
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pikurasa |
BTW, for those who may not know pikurasa (me) = Devin U. |
13:16 |
walterbender |
and (2) please prepare to do a week blog we can share beyond sugar-devel |
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it should talk about progress and goals |
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Tabs16 |
walterbender: any specific blogging platform? |
13:16 |
Cristinadp |
Yes! an hour later would be great, if possible! :) Otherwise, it's fine |
13:17 |
walterbender |
Tabs16, any platform you'd like |
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Tabs16 |
for MB, we do have the website as all |
13:17 |
HrishiP |
Tabs16, google blogs would be good |
13:17 |
walterbender |
mohayon, llaske would one hour later work for you guys? |
13:17 |
llaske |
yes |
13:17 |
mohayon |
Yep |
13:17 |
walterbender |
OK. |
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Let's plan on 14UTC on Mondays going forward |
13:18 |
Tabs16 |
HrishiP: Ok |
13:18 |
tharangi |
walterbender: I love writing blogs :-D HrishiP: ahhaaa... :) |
13:18 |
tony37 |
ok |
13:18 |
Rishabh42 |
walterbender, okay |
13:18 |
zeecoder_ |
14UTC would be fine! |
13:18 |
tharangi |
okay! |
13:18 |
seetarama |
great! |
13:18 |
Cristinadp |
Great! Thank you! |
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Tabs16 |
walterbender: from when shall we begin writing the blog? |
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+1 for the timing |
13:19 |
jatindhankhar |
Fine by me +1 |
13:19 |
walterbender |
Tabs16, maybe one entry to summarize the "bonding period"? |
13:19 |
Tabs16 |
Ok |
13:20 |
walterbender |
Everyone, please send me the links to your blogs so I can post them in the wiki. |
13:20 |
HrishiP |
llaske, walterbender, pikurasa, for tharangi 's proejct, I am only for the website part, would it will be okay. I talked about this earlier but still confirming. |
13:20 |
walterbender |
HrishiP, I have been assuming that all three of us help mentor all of the MB projects together |
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Each of us brings different strengths |
13:21 |
HrishiP |
walterbender : I can do that a bit, but not as good as you two. |
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okay walterbender |
13:21 |
walterbender |
HrishiP, we are all learning |
13:22 |
HrishiP |
+1 |
13:22 |
walterbender |
Cristinadp, I am hoping you will help with the MB projects too |
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so we should have good coverage |
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Cristinadp |
Sure, though I need to get a bit acquainted with it |
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walterbender |
does anyone have any questions at this stage? |
13:24 |
tharangi |
I am bit confused. So for documentation Pikurasa, for technical side HirshiP will be my mentors. Is it? |
13:24 |
walterbender |
Just to summarize: |
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tharangi, yes... and Cristinadp and I will also contribute |
13:25 |
Cristinadp |
walterbender: to clarify, MB == Music Blocks? |
13:25 |
walterbender |
Cristinadp, yes :) |
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Oh. One more thing. |
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Please try to hang out in #sugar when you can |
13:26 |
tharangi |
Can I have real names please. HrishiP and Cristnadp. :) |
13:26 |
pikurasa |
tharangi: I would help answer any music-related questions as well as help guide the project in terms of what would be useful for teaching music. |
13:26 |
walterbender |
just to keep on top of what ever everyone is doing |
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tharangi, my real name is Walter Bender :) |
13:27 |
HrishiP |
tharangi, Hrishi Patel. |
13:27 |
tharangi |
I know u walter. :D |
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Cristinadp |
tharangi: My name is Cristina Del Puerto :) |
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tharangi |
Thanks! :) |
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seetarama |
walterbender: are there any more ways you would suggest so that we can bond and get to know the community better? |
13:28 |
walterbender |
seetarama, IRC and the mailing lists are the best |
13:28 |
seetarama |
ok sir |
13:28 |
walterbender |
wishes we had a budget for a group face-to-face meeting :) |
13:28 |
tony37 |
+1 |
13:29 |
tharangi |
:D |
13:29 |
walterbender |
seetarama, since your project touches on all of us, keeping everyone in the loop will be vital |
13:30 |
seetarama |
sure |
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Tabs16 |
so, blogs+ mailing list + mail along with cc to mentors (summary) |
13:30 |
walterbender |
Tabs16, yes |
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Tabs16 |
timing : 14:00 UTC |
13:30 |
walterbender |
yes |
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thanks for the summary |
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jatindhankhar |
How about google hangouts for face to face meeting ? Won't be same like a physical meeting but still something |
13:32 |
walterbender |
jatindhankhar, we could try it... it is tough with such a large group |
13:32 |
pikurasa |
jatindhankhar: Students and mentors may choose to do that on a case-by-case |
13:32 |
walterbender |
maybe for the individual mentor meetings? |
13:32 |
Tabs16 |
+1 pikurasa |
13:33 |
pikurasa |
Sometimes video chats have been helpful for discussing certain things |
13:33 |
Rishabh42 |
walterbender, Tony Anderson had suggested that Sugar Labs must undertake to support the RPi3 release |
13:33 |
walterbender |
Rishabh42, I don |
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't follow |
13:33 |
jatindhankhar |
+1 pikurasa |
13:33 |
walterbender |
is that not what your project is? |
13:34 |
Rishabh42 |
walterbender, what he meant was that Sugar Labs accepts bug reports against the release and undertakes to correct them promptly. |
13:34 |
walterbender |
Rishabh42, yes |
13:34 |
Rishabh42 |
walterbender, yeah, but even after the image is published |
13:34 |
walterbender |
Rishabh42, part of your project is to sort out all of these things |
13:34 |
tony37 |
Exactly. I would also like to see a build system that creates a usable image from the source repositories |
13:35 |
HrishiP |
Rishabh42 : also the bugs will be related with raspbian versions |
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13:35 |
walterbender |
tony37, I think we want to build support based on the Debian release |
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crazy to duplicate work |
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jonas and james are helping with Debian |
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and RPi support from Debian is strong |
13:36 |
tony37 |
At least we need to understand the process. There have been problems with the Browse activity |
13:36 |
walterbender |
we need to ride that wave |
13:36 |
HrishiP |
tony37, do you have a RPI to test releases? |
13:36 |
Tabs16 |
yes tony37 |
13:36 |
tony37 |
Thes I do |
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Yes i do |
13:36 |
HrishiP |
Browser keeps giving me some certificate erro |
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tony37, walterbender, we are not supporting RPI1/2 yeah? |
13:37 |
walterbender |
HrishiP, we need to fix browse for RPi by working upstream |
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Rishabh42 |
And which version of Debian is recommended? I'm running ubuntu gnome 14.04 and it doesn't support all the tools/softwares used to build images |
13:37 |
walterbender |
HrishiP, the Sugar experience on RPi0 is soso |
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not much we can do about it |
13:38 |
HrishiP |
walterbender : will need to see |
13:38 |
jatindhankhar |
I can have a rpi (well I get it in 2-3 days) so I will be glad to help with Rpi thing |
13:38 |
walterbender |
jatindhankhar, the more testing the better :) |
13:38 |
HrishiP |
what about other SBCs like ASUS tinkerboard and else? |
13:39 |
walterbender |
HrishiP, we are going to work through RPi first |
13:39 |
HrishiP |
walterbender, that our priority. that can be done off GSOC too |
13:39 |
Rishabh42 |
jatindhankhar, that would be great :) |
13:39 |
walterbender |
and then having established a clear protocol, we can look to other platforms |
13:39 |
HrishiP |
need to see popularity too |
13:41 |
pikurasa |
tharangi: Tabs16 Let's get an email loop going with Walter and Hrishi on it for Music Blocks questions/reports Can one of you start that, please? |
13:41 |
HrishiP |
okay for websites this time, which platform should we prefer? |
13:41 |
walterbender |
FYI, I am traveling to UY this week so I will not be online much |
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but generally I will be around this summer |
13:41 |
pikurasa |
So we can all be in the loop for progress. |
13:41 |
HrishiP |
I think wordpress would be the easiest and simplest? |
13:42 |
Tabs16 |
HrishiP: questions on thread and wordpress for blogs |
13:42 |
pikurasa |
HrishiP: for students who do not have a preferred blogging software, you can help them using WP. Otherwise they may use what they are familiar with. |
13:42 |
HrishiP |
Tabs16, I am talking about projects, not blogs :D |
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pikurasa : or Joomla maybe. Site protection is necessary too |
13:43 |
jatindhankhar |
HrishiP wordpress is great but jekyll + github page is awesome (have a very slant learning curve, but worth the effort) If you need any help, just let me know |
13:44 |
tharangi |
Pikurasa: I will create the email thread u asked above. |
13:44 |
Tabs16 |
pikurasa: I have made the thread |
13:45 |
tharangi |
okay |
13:45 |
HrishiP |
jatindhankhar: Thanks. jekyll is complicated to setup for newbies I think. |
13:45 |
Tabs16 |
tharangi: I just made it |
13:45 |
tharangi |
saw now. Aren't we adding Cristinadp also to that. |
13:46 |
pikurasa |
Tabs16: tharangi thanks |
13:46 |
seetarama |
walterbender: we should be sending a mail to you regarding our blog and also regarding the communication confirmation with our mentor |
13:46 |
pikurasa |
tharangi: BTW, Tabs16 is already connected to the Owncloud acct I sent you credentials for. Anything Uploaded syncs to our computers |
13:47 |
Tabs16 |
Cristinadp: Can you please send me your mailing id ? :) |
13:47 |
pikurasa |
If you ever need more space, I can add it |
13:47 |
tharangi |
Pikurasa: okay. |
13:47 |
Tabs16 |
tharangi: I dont have the mailing id |
13:47 |
pikurasa |
tharangi: I recommend using the client |
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desktop client |
13:48 |
walterbender |
I think we are done with the group meeting |
13:48 |
pikurasa |
Feel free to send anything you think is helpful |
13:48 |
walterbender |
I hope to hear from everyone this week. |
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I will send the link to the log. |
13:49 |
HrishiP |
I hope to see people everyday on IRC. |
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at #sugar |
13:49 |
Cristinadp |
Tabs16: walterbender already added me, thanks |
13:49 |
pikurasa |
tharangi: I am creating an account for you on MusicBlocks.net |
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feel free to use it if you want |
13:49 |
tony37 |
bye |
13:49 |
seetarama |
+1 |
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pikurasa |
I can up your permissions to admin if you want |
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Thanks everyone! |
13:50 |
HrishiP |
Thanks everyone! |
13:50 |
jatindhankhar |
It was nice meeting everyone :) |
13:50 |
walterbender |
#end-meeting |
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meeting |
Meeting ended Mon May 8 13:50:29 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
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seetarama |
walterbender: we should be sending a mail to you regarding our blog and also regarding the communication confirmation with our mentor |
13:50 |
Tabs16 |
Thanks everyone :) |
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