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Meeting started Tue Oct 25 18:04:48 2016 UTC. The chair is ignacio. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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ignacio |
#link https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code_In_2016 |
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walterbender, what's required for the application? |
| 18:05 |
walterbender |
willl paste in |
| 18:05 |
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ignacio, a description of SL (done) |
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and a bunch of questions about what we will do in GCI (started) |
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and we need to prepare a collection of example projects (in the wiki) |
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we can grab the beginner tasks from last year |
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and the documentation tasks |
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I have a lot of Music Blocks and Turtle tasks |
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and we should add all the open issues from github |
| 18:06 |
ignacio |
Yes, I can copy the past year wikipage and the edit it according to 2016 edition |
| 18:06 |
walterbender |
ignacio, +1 |
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maybe nice to have a script to scrape issues from github.com/sugarlabs |
| 18:07 |
ignacio |
okay, I will do it |
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is Lionel the 2nd org admin? |
| 18:07 |
walterbender |
plus we should have a few moon shots for advanced hackers |
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ignacio, I haven't heard back yet |
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walterbender |
he expressed interest during the last SLOB meeting |
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so I think he will do it |
| 18:08 |
ignacio |
How about Mariah being org admin? |
| 18:08 |
walterbender |
oh. yes. I'll invite her. she'll do it :) |
| 18:08 |
ignacio |
yay |
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AbrahmAB |
hello everyone! |
| 18:08 |
TymonR |
hello |
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hello everyone! :) |
| 18:09 |
ignacio |
welcome |
| 18:09 |
walterbender |
if/when we get accepted we need to make sure we have decent coverage of the IRC channel. |
| 18:09 |
TymonR |
sorry for being a bit late |
| 18:09 |
walterbender |
TymonR, AbrahmAB welcome |
| 18:09 |
ignacio |
I will be here on summer |
| 18:09 |
walterbender |
I have a fair bit of work on my Day Job so I may not be available my usual 24/7 |
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but I will mostly be around |
| 18:10 |
ignacio |
It's ok |
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How many mentors do we have? |
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I mean, that already say yes, or want to participate |
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walterbender |
ignacio, no idea? |
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you and me? |
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sam |
| 18:10 |
ignacio |
We should email past year mentors |
| 18:10 |
walterbender |
presumably everyone who is here |
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ManashRaja |
I am new but, I will be able to help in the docs and website for GCI |
| 18:11 |
walterbender |
a few others so far |
| 18:11 |
ignacio |
Maybe on GCI 2015 winners election email |
| 18:11 |
walterbender |
+1 |
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it was great that you and sam could mentor last year |
| 18:11 |
ignacio |
Do we need to have mentors before the org application is submitted? |
| 18:11 |
walterbender |
no... |
| 18:11 |
TymonR |
I could be mentor this year too and it would be really nice, but I am considering whether I shouldn't give a chance trying as student this year |
| 18:12 |
walterbender |
in fact, I don't know if you can sign up as a mentor yet |
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TymonR, we will use the github task again this year :) |
| 18:12 |
ignacio |
TymonR, I hope that u do it :P |
| 18:13 |
Erilyth |
I would like to be a mentor as well. Do we have to only stick to the existing projects or could a new project be started and tasks be used for GCI as well? |
| 18:13 |
ignacio |
I think that one of our problems last year, was not having "easy" tasks, or at least not that easy as beginner tasks |
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walterbender |
ignacio, it is a hard balance to reach |
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I had some "design a turtle project" or "design a Physics project" task that no one did :P |
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I thought those would have been popular |
| 18:14 |
ignacio |
The point is, should we point advanced students to advanced tasks? |
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walterbender |
ignacio, yes |
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ignacio |
-> But how? |
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TymonR |
walterbender, that's great :) I created it with intent to introduce people to collaborative programming and I hope it worked out well. With some modification it could be used this year too, especially because Sugar has not many beginner tasks |
| 18:14 |
walterbender |
we cannot force it, but we can encourage it |
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ignacio, I think it is a simple matter of engaging the students in a dialog |
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TymonR |
ignacio, it is a subject of my serious consideration :P |
| 18:16 |
walterbender |
anyway, the short-term task is generating some tasks so as to give our application some credibility |
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if ignacio sets up the framework from last-year's page, we can all start populating it |
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TymonR |
walterbender, +1 especially when mentors choose winners and amount of finished tasks almost doesn't play any role in this process. we should judge people with their abilities and work done. |
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walterbender |
TymonR, yes |
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we need to remind the students of this |
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it becomes quite contentious at times |
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TymonR |
it is obvious when someone with advanced programming skills or experience was doing only easy tasks to increase the counter, he doesn't deserve to be the winner |
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walterbender |
(except for ignacio who did more tasks than the rest of the students combined) |
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ignacio, the other thing we need to do is recruit students |
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walterbender |
we need more diversity in who participates |
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ignacio_ |
got disconnected |
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walterbender |
just solicited participation from a school in Thailand |
| 18:19 |
ignacio_ |
Cool, we have students from Paraguay |
| 18:19 |
walterbender |
ignacio, what you missed: ignacio, the other thing we need to do is recruit students |
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walterbender |
would be great to have a broad reach |
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TymonR |
walterbender, it is good idea - I can spread a word in my community and I reckon we should also make Sugar Labs' page on Facebook more popular. It is incredibly powerful tool to reach people. |
| 18:20 |
ignacio_ |
Well, yes, but most of the students that came last year were not sugar related |
| 18:20 |
walterbender |
TymonR, +1 |
| 18:20 |
ignacio_ |
most of them did the git beginner task and nothing else :/ |
| 18:21 |
walterbender |
ignacio_, i dont' mind as long as a few do more |
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it is not a lot of overhead to manage the beginner tasks |
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people have to start somewhere |
| 18:21 |
ignacio_ |
But also what I feel, is like previous year students come to win. Not to be mean or something. But its like: XX won ok -> He can't win anymore -> I have the chance |
| 18:21 |
walterbender |
but (1) how to get more people to start and (2) encourage them to go to harder tasks |
| 18:21 |
ignacio_ |
Thats what I feel with Daksh tbh |
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TymonR |
there is no way to deny them from doing beginner task, for some it could be a good start, for some an "easy point", for some the end of their adventure with GCI |
| 18:22 |
ignacio_ |
But maybe the tasks should point to SUGAR directly (the interface) |
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walterbender |
ignacio_, I don't understand what you mean? |
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ignacio_ |
as example: the git task |
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it was just a pull request, not even opening sugar |
| 18:23 |
walterbender |
ignacio_, we should try to do a better job with the beginner tasks |
| 18:24 |
ignacio_ |
So, my idea: TO edit that task and add something like "Take a screenshot of your sugar running instance, and then submit a pull request" |
| 18:24 |
walterbender |
installing SOAS was a beginner task... |
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ignacio_ |
or do something like GSoC, that a screenshot with their name is asked |
| 18:24 |
walterbender |
or sugar-build |
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ignacio_ |
Yes, but you only can do 2 tasks |
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which one will you prefer if you are only looking for a tshirt or certificate? |
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walterbender |
ignacio_, that could be a first non-beginner task |
| 18:24 |
ignacio_ |
The one that requires "a lot of work" or the easy one? |
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TymonR |
ignacio_, yeah that's why I said git task requires a few modifications as it was actually somehow too easy. Maybe it should involve command-line git too> |
| 18:25 |
walterbender |
well... we have 1 month to get the details worked out |
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meanwhile, we should get some ideas expressed in the wiki |
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ignacio_ |
yes, I will try to edit the wikipage tonight |
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walterbender |
thanks |
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anything else for today? |
| 18:28 |
ignacio_ |
nope |
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walterbender |
once ignacio_ gets the page set up, please add your name as a mentor |
| 18:28 |
AbrahmAB |
+1 |
| 18:29 |
ignacio_ |
so, thats it? |
| 18:29 |
TymonR |
ok, I will consider my role this year and add myself or... wait until GCI begins :) |
| 18:29 |
ignacio_ |
Thanks everyone for attending the meeting :) |
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ManashRaja |
+1 |
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Thanks :) |
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TymonR |
+1 |
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walterbender |
ignacio_, end meeting? |
| 18:30 |
ignacio_ |
yay |
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walterbender |
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TymonR |
thanks everyone and thanks ignacio_ for setting it up |
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ignacio_ |
1 :) |
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#end-meeting |
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ignacio_ is now known as ignacio |
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ignacio |
#end-meeting |
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