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Meeting started Fri Sep 2 19:03:42 2016 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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walterbender |
welcome everyone |
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pikurasa |
hi |
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walterbender |
We have a lot of discuss today... |
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#topic i18n |
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CJL is not able to join us, but he sent a short report by email |
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for the record: |
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1) Just FYI, no invoices have been submitted against the i18n |
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contract, to date, my work has been pro bono. |
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2) Recent progress has been made by Samson Goddy on Yoruba. |
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http://translate.sugarlabs.org/yo/ After a review of data quality |
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checks, and an opportunity for any needed corrections, Samson can |
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expect an invoice approval for Milestone 2. Follow-up will be by |
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e-mail after the review is complete. |
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3) glibc (Linux) locales have been developed and/or submitted for |
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Awajun (agr_PE) Miskitu (miq_NI) and soon Guarani (gug_PE). |
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4) Some interesting contacts via a Guarani localizer may lead to an |
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i18n proposal for Guarani possibly involving Paraguay Educa and PY |
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govt linguists. We'll just have to see how it plays out over time, |
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samsongoddy, can you fill us in re Yoruba? |
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samsongoddy |
okay |
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I just completed the second milestone which includes sugar, sugar gtk 3 |
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and OLPC switch desktop |
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With some other uploads I made |
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over 70 percent |
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walterbender |
samsongoddy, can you describe the team? |
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who is helping? |
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samsongoddy |
Three other contributors |
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walterbender |
any issues? everything going smoothly? |
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you working offline and uploading? |
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samsongoddy |
yeah financially though |
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offline |
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everything is been done offline |
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Ibiam <Ibiam!294f0706 gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.79.7.6> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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Ibiam |
hello everyone |
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samsongoddy |
The $340 didn't do much |
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walterbender |
hi Ibiam |
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Ibiam |
sorry I'm late |
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walterbender |
we are just discussing Yoruba |
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samsongoddy, you have a contract that is pretty specific. |
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Ibiam |
okay, we're still translating though |
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samsongoddy |
yeah |
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Ibiam |
almost done |
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walterbender |
Ibiam, that is great!!! |
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samsongoddy |
I might complete the milestone 3 next week |
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Almost done |
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walterbender |
nice |
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samsongoddy |
Yeah |
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walterbender |
will be great to have Yoruba for the November workshops |
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samsongoddy |
yes |
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That would be super awesome |
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Ibiam |
about that, any update |
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walterbender |
let's switch topics to Turtle Art Days. |
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samsongoddy |
Yes |
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walterbender |
#topic Turtle Art Days |
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andresaguirre |
I'm planning to do: * a basic wokshop for novice programmers using robots. (centos mec) * a advance using XEvents. (facultad de ingeniería) * a musicblock with music teachers and general public (i'm learning the tool) (centos mec). |
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samsongoddy |
Nice |
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walterbender |
^^ that is in UY in November? |
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andresaguirre, I spoke with Artemis Papert last night about what role she and Brian Silverman might play |
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<Jose_Miguel_-es> Ends of October or principles of November |
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andresaguirre |
José Miguel will propose more workshops |
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yes I'm in .uy in november |
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walterbender |
I am trying to get at least one of claudia, artemis, brian, and or cynthia solomon to go to UY |
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I think only Artemis will join me in PY in Ocotber. |
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and I am hoping Brian and Cynthia can come with me to Nigeria |
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Ibiam |
thought Claudia would be coming to Nigeria in November |
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walterbender |
I don't think Claudia can come but I have only heard indirectly |
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samsongoddy |
About Nigeria... |
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walterbender |
the plan is a 3 day event in Abuja |
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samsongoddy |
yes |
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walterbender |
Day 1 is focused on Turtle Blocks and Music Blocks |
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kids and teachers |
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Days 2 and 3 are more general edtech |
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pikurasa |
Unfortunately, I cannot go to PY, but I can help with materials for Music Blocks beforehand. |
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samsongoddy |
1 7th till 19th |
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walterbender |
there will be more than just Sugar on Days 2 and 3 |
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we hope to get a broad audience |
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samsongoddy |
Mark Zuckerberg was in Nigeria this week |
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CanoeBerry |
Late to the meeting, hello. |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry, there is a log |
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samsongoddy |
So he spoke with the president about spreading tech |
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So I think this event will pay off |
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walterbender |
the PY event should be about US $1000 -- we are hoping for some additional funding from the US embassy |
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samsongoddy |
US embassy?? |
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walterbender |
hopefully all we need to cover from SL is one airfare |
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samsongoddy, we should approach the embassy in Nigeria for funding too |
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they covered the expenses associated with my trip to Chile last month |
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samsongoddy |
wow |
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walterbender |
UY I have no budget for yet. |
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Ibiam |
the Nigerian embassy? |
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walterbender |
In PY we have local lodging covered |
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In UY, depending on who goes, we may need to pay for hotels too |
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so I would guess about US $2000 |
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Nigeria is going to be a bit more expensive |
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Ibiam |
how many days |
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walterbender |
We need to fly a few people over from the States |
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samsongoddy |
yeah |
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walterbender |
and a few more over from the Delta to Abuja |
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and provide hotels in Abuja |
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samsongoddy |
the economy is affecting lots of thing |
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walterbender |
and cover a portion of the venue |
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I am thinking it will be at least US $5000 for that one |
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but we may be able to get some external support. |
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we have leads with SEED, for example |
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samsongoddy |
Did you contact Schlumberger |
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Ibiam |
maybe, about $2000 for hotel mgt |
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walterbender |
Ibiam, yes... the hotel is expensive |
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samsongoddy |
trip advisor |
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Ibiam |
due to the fact that the hotel rating is high and distance to the venue, which is something to consider |
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samsongoddy |
Transcorp hilton |
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Ibiam |
hello GrannieB |
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walterbender |
we can keep researcing |
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samsongoddy |
One month to go |
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November is around the corner |
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Ibiam |
obinna suggested sheraton, but the problem is the distance to the venue |
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walterbender |
but I would like to get SLOB approval for the events |
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samsongoddy |
Okay |
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GrannieB_ |
Hi had problems finding this. Walter's link went to a blank page |
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samsongoddy |
ouch |
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walterbender |
any general discussion about these events? |
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samsongoddy |
In other hand Obinna Ukwuani is doing some background runs |
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walterbender |
MOTION: Approval of funding for Turtle Art Days in Paraguay, Uruguay, and Nigeria in October/November; the PY budget is ~$1K; UY budget ~$2K; Nigeria bugdte ~5K; these events would come from the tripadvisor funds. |
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tony37 |
+1 |
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walterbender |
any SLOB member second the motion? |
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llaske |
+1 |
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tony37 |
I second the motion |
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walterbender |
thanks tony37 |
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If there is no more discussion, we can vote. |
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<Jose_Miguel_-es> +1 |
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walterbender |
+1 |
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tony37 |
+1 |
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llaske |
+1 |
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andresaguirre |
+1 |
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walterbender |
looks like we are good to go. I will ask for ClaudiaU and Samir to chime in by email |
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Next topic? |
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#topic finance manager |
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CanoeBerry, anything you want to discuss re FM? |
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samsongoddy |
so we are good to go |
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walterbender |
samsongoddy, yes.... |
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CanoeBerry |
+1 above; so immediate news regarding FM matters that I know of? |
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*no immediate news |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry, at some point we need to consider filling the position |
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GrannieB_ |
+1 |
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walterbender |
looks like we are going to be spending about $10K of trip advisor money this fall... so there may actually be something for the FM to do :) |
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CanoeBerry |
Yes, I can fulfill the position for the 1st year or so, if it takes time to find the right person. |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry, maybe you and GrannieB_ can work up a plan for filling the position to present in the near future? |
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CanoeBerry, +1 to your suggestion |
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CanoeBerry |
OK |
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walterbender |
thx |
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samsongoddy |
Nice |
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walterbender |
anything else re FM? |
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GrannieB_ |
Summarize please…. Adam will do it for now? |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, I think Adam has agreed to fill in until the right person is found and I am hoping that you and Adam will work together to find the right person |
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GrannieB_ |
OK Might it be Adam? |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, could be... |
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llaske |
Thanks for that Adam |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, maybe you can talk him into making the temporary appointment permanent :) |
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meanwhile... |
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#topic elections |
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As you know, we have three SLOB positions opening at the end of the year |
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samsongoddy |
I might run |
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lolz |
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walterbender |
Dave Crossland has begun work on updating the membership list |
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would be great to get some strong candidates |
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seems more interest this year than last year which is encouraging !!!! |
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Dave could not join us; I am not sure if anyone else has anything to report. |
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on the election topic |
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GrannieB_ |
I think I will choose not to be on the election committee this year |
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samsongoddy |
Ibiam has something |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, thanks for your service last time around |
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GrannieB_ |
It comes too close to SCaLE and is hard to do both |
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I'm working on something special for them |
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Ibiam |
I found a voting software, dave sent it to the dev list |
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GrannieB_ |
Last year the software was a big problem |
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Ibiam |
https://vote.heliosvoting.org/ |
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GrannieB_ |
I think the SLOBs need to be involved in figuring out the best way to do the election rather than leaving it up to a committeee |
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walterbender |
Ibiam, looks good |
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Ibiam |
dave asked sam to set up a container for this so he can log into |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, we need to have a SLOB representative on the committee |
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Ibiam |
sam said he'll work on it and let him know when it's ready |
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walterbender |
anyone volunteer for this? |
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would have to be one of the members not up for reelection, I presume |
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GrannieB_ |
+1 |
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walterbender |
maybe Sameer? |
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we can volunteer him since he is not here :) |
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llaske |
:-) |
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Ibiam |
:-) |
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GrannieB_ |
:-D |
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walterbender |
We are running up against the hour. |
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GrannieB_ |
There are a lot of politics involved in chooseing the voting system |
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walterbender |
I will make sure Sameer sees the meeting log :) |
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GrannieB_ |
Need to have a committee with no connections to the candidates |
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Ibiam |
GrannieB_ i sent you a pm |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, that is pretty difficult in a small community |
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GrannieB_ |
could be some folks who are less involvved |
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Ibiam |
hey davelab6 |
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GrannieB_ |
CRS cones to mind |
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CanoeBerry |
Can someone remind us the 3 office holders whose terms are expiring? |
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walterbender |
but I am not too worried about the election being rigged by the DMC or Putin |
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ClaudiaU, JM, and Tony |
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GrannieB_ |
yes |
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samsongoddy |
lolz |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, I think we need to wait and see who is running. |
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that determines if there are any conflicts of interest |
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GrannieB_ |
right! |
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walterbender |
meanwhile we can get moving on soliciting volunteers and candidates |
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davelab6 |
sorry am late; just catching up on http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]etings/2016-09-02 |
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<Jose_Miguel_-es> Or ask collaboration to people that already know that it will not have this conflict... |
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GrannieB_ |
good idea Jose Miguel |
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walterbender |
We are almost out of time... I defer to Sameer to help this discussion along on list |
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#topic GSoC 2016 |
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In brief, we had a productive summer... but 1 student did not pass :( |
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I have already merged Hemant's Music Blocks code |
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llaske |
I'm merging Sugarizer OS code from Jeremie |
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pikurasa |
I think Hemant learned a lot. Good contribution for a clear goal. |
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walterbender |
Vikram made lots of progress in demonstrating how to use git as a backend... I hope to merge his Turtle code in the coming month |
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pikurasa |
I am sorry, but I need to go now. Thanks! |
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walterbender |
pikurasa, thanks for joining us |
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davelab6 |
(Thanks Ibiam for reporting the status of the election software; sam C said he may do that in the next 7 days or so) |
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walterbender |
tony37, any comments? |
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Ibiam |
sounds good |
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davelab6 |
GrannieB_: sorry to hear you may bow out of the committee this year |
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tony37 |
I think Utkarsh did very well. |
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walterbender |
davelab6, the advisory board for Helios looks great and it is FOSS!!! |
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tony37, I agree |
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GrannieB_ |
davelab6 I'm working on a special project for SCaLE 15X in Pasadena and it overlaps time-wise with the elections |
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walterbender |
and Abhijit did a great job rethinking collaboration |
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davelab6 |
for the font editor GSOC, sadly our student Yash did not put enough hours in during the 2nd part after the midterm evaluation to complete the code, even when the scope was |
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walterbender |
and Yash (well, Eli) inspired me to do some cool extensions to Turtle |
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davelab6 |
reduced, and also did not switch gears to documetatnion when it was clear it would be incmplete |
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so eli and i proposed to yash we would mark the project as failed, and yash agreed this would be fair |
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walterbender |
but all in all, I think it was worthwhile participating |
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and our mentors were very dedicated |
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Tony, Dave, Sam, Lionel, Michael, and Devin were always available |
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davelab6 |
GrannieB_: i thought scale is in march? :) |
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tony37 |
Sebastian also helped greatly |
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walterbender |
Michael will be representing us at the summit |
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davelab6 |
and Eli! :) |
| 20:06 |
walterbender |
yes... Eli and icarito. |
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my oversight :P |
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We will need to think about GCI soon. |
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GrannieB_ |
SCaLE is the first weekend in March. That was when the elections were finishing up last year…. sorry I don't remember how to make this comment directed just to Dave… senior moment? nah… just never learned it ;-) |
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walterbender |
I am of course in favor of participating again as it is my favorite program :) |
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llaske |
Was my first experience last year and yes, it's a nice program |
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GrannieB_ |
I would love to work with someone on documentation for users of Sugar Activities |
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walterbender |
GrannieB_, GCI is your chance :) |
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GrannieB_ |
Maybe... |
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walterbender |
documentation tasks are very much welcome and appreicated |
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llaske, more JS tasks this year :) they were popular last year |
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but we should wrap up. |
| 20:09 |
llaske |
Yes, I would work on it |
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walterbender |
two more quick things |
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(1) http://www.librelearnlab.org/conference |
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this is a FOSS education summit at MIT in October |
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(2) I cannot find the link, but there is a call for papers about Learning at Scale that Claudia sent out. |
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walterbender |
seems Sugar is relevant and we should encourage some writing |
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andresaguirre, ^^ |
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walterbender |
JM_, and andresaguirre : is there a link for the workshop call for UY? |
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andresaguirre |
I was offline, moving from one office to another |
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GrannieB_ |
I see Andrew Marcinak is a keynote speaker there. He also spoke at CUE |
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but not as keynote |
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walterbender |
andresaguirre, Claudia is soliciting papers for a conference on Learning at Scale |
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OK. I need to go |
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anything else for today? |
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andresaguirre |
I will check it walter |
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walterbender |
thanks all for participating |
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andresaguirre |
send me a link |
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walterbender |
andresaguirre, I will send it as soon as I find it :) |
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<Jose_Miguel_-es> We do not have diary *aú. We expect to resolve it in brief |
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andresaguirre |
we don't have the link fot the workshop call, as far as I know. Maybe JM have more information |
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GrannieB_ |
bye all |
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andresaguirre |
bye! |
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llaske |
Bye |
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walterbender |
JM_, OK. When you do, please send it to Sugar |
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tony37 |
bye |
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walterbender |
bye everyone |
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meeting |
<Jose_Miguel_-es> Sure |
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walterbender |
#end-meeting |
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meeting |
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