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#sugar-meeting meeting, 2016-07-22 12:04:15

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12:04 meeting Meeting started Fri Jul 22 12:04:15 2016 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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12:04 walterbender we are already in discussion with hemant_kasat
12:04 hemant_kasat, wanna give the group a quick summary of your week?
12:05 hemant_kasat walterbender , pikurasa , so we don't want the lower frequency ?? if this is the case then I can restrict this ratio
12:06 pikurasa hemant_kasat: If I read this correctly, then I think you may be confused.
12:06 Maybe we could start with your summary of the week for the meeting?
12:06 And get back to tempo widget later?
12:07 samtoday AbrahmAB: Hello!
12:07 pikurasa (get back to this particular question later -- sorry sloppy langauge)
12:07 samtoday AbrahmAB: how is it going?  Are you digging into the log?  Is it making progress?
12:08 AbrahmAB hey samtoday, I have mailed regarding the error this morning
12:08 have u read it?
12:08 hemant_kasat I am almost done with the pitchstaircase widget, just some remaining issues as walterbender said,  I started working on Tempo widget, I have added the block for the widget, right now I am having problem with initializing the tempo  widget but I will figure out it soon and then continue working on Tempo widget
12:08 samtoday yep
12:08 AbrahmAB: but I'm not joking - I have absolutly no idea how telepathy works
12:08 you know more than me now
12:09 hemant_kasat And I will do the work on pitchstaircase widget in meantime
12:09 AbrahmAB oh!! samtoday!
12:09 walterbender samtoday, at the base level, it just sets up a socket and pushed data through it
12:09 samtoday walterbender: but then it crashes when we do what the docs say :`(
12:09 AbrahmAB but I guess we need to connect neighborhood with project for receiving msg
12:10 samtoday AbrahmAB: sorry, I don't understand?
12:10 AbrahmAB walterbender: I will pm you about our progress in collab just after the meeting but observations from Salut-log
12:11 samtoday: I think the msgs are received via the Tubes connect among buddies!
12:11 samtoday AbrahmAB: do you have it working now?
12:11 AbrahmAB the present collab code is not related to neighborhood.py in any forms
12:12 no not yet
12:12 samtoday Tubes are an alternative to the Text channels
12:12 pikurasa Thanks, hemant_kasat for the report. I suspect that there are still some things you can try with the Tempo widget code to get it working. And then Walter can help advise.
12:12 samtoday AbrahmAB: my question is - how do you feel you are progressing with the project collab?  On the scale of "crushing it" to "beating my head against a brick wall"?
12:12 walterbender pikurasa, hemant_kasat I will look right after the meeting
12:13 pikurasa Are we on a new topic now? (much chatter)
12:13 walterbender lets switch to AbrahmAB
12:13 hemant_kasat pikurasa , sure !! I will try to make tempo widget initialize !!
12:14 AbrahmAB samtoday, walterbender: telepathy log is way out my understanding for now
12:14 samtoday AbrahmAB: ok.  Maybe it would be more fun to try rewriting the sugar collab system with a more modern/well-maintained technology?
12:14 walterbender AbrahmAB, is the original colllaberation code for Physics broken or is the error due to your new approach?
12:15 samtoday, +1
12:15 AbrahmAB walterbender: Physics code is grt
12:15 samtoday: +1
12:15 we r still using tubes in activity collab! they are deprecated
12:15 samtoday so may as well port to a new maintained thing, then port to a slightly less deprecated thing!
12:16 AbrahmAB: do you want to investigate using Matrix.Org?  Or do you have any other ideas?  WebRTC?
12:16 AbrahmAB samtoday: I remember you suggesting using  Matrix.Org/WebRTC for collab
12:16 samtoday yep
12:16 from what I've read:
12:16 AbrahmAB sure. I will
12:16 samtoday * Matrix.Org is a messageing platform.  You can use it to find users on a server, etc.
12:17 - we could use that to impliment the neighbourhood view
12:17 * Matrix.Org can let you originise WebRTC channels between the clients
12:17 - we could use that for activities?
12:17 AbrahmAB samtoday: have you used it earlier?
12:17 samtoday No :P
12:18 It seems very popular at the moment - and skimming the spec online it made more sense than telepathy
12:18 AbrahmAB lets look into Matrix.org or anything better than telepathy for collab :)
12:18 walterbender mohayon, what would be compatible with Sugarizer?
12:18 samtoday (it is a http api - the main client is written in ReactJS)
12:18 AbrahmAB samtoday: ReactJS! so do I need to learn that?
12:19 samtoday No... there is a client for python too!
12:19 mohayon Today we are using a websocket for the collab part. The backend is written in nodejs
12:19 samtoday AbrahmAB: ^ maybe we use that instead?
12:19 AbrahmAB awsome!
12:19 samtoday: any references you are having right now for matrix.org?
12:20 samtoday no, just read the site and looked at it :)  I think that matrix.org is a good starting point though
12:20 https://matrix.org
12:20 mohayon: what is the functionality of the collab part?  Does it impliment a neighbourhood view?  Does it impliment activity collab?
12:21 AbrahmAB samtoday: do we need to discuss with other member on refactoring the collab sys
12:22 samtoday I don't think so?
12:22 mohayon The collab server allows you to publish journal entries on the server.  You can see other people and their running app.  There are some activity collabs like paint and memorize
12:22 samtoday We should probably research and post on sugar-devel?
12:22 AbrahmAB: does that sound ok?
12:23 mohayon Theres a running version on server.sugarizer.org
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12:26 walterbender mohayon, is it using an off-the-shelf framework or something you guys built from scratch?
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12:27 AbrahmAB sorry for the disconnection :(
12:27 mohayon Llaske built it using a micro framework for websocket. There's no specific lib requirements
12:27 walterbender mohayon, that matches my recollection
12:28 AbrahmAB, worthwhile taking a look at what they did in Sugarizer too
12:28 AbrahmAB walterbender: saur
12:28 sure*
12:30 samtoday Ok, so we can research and talk on sugar-devel?  Is that good?
12:30 I'm pretty excited about this new compression algorithm
12:30 *collab system
12:30 walterbender +1
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12:30 samtoday alright, ttyl!
12:31 AbrahmAB_ yes samtoday :)
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12:31 walterbender who is next?
12:31 yagarwal I can go
12:31 walterbender please
12:32 yagarwal this week I  released the alpha version of my activity .xo
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12:34 yagarwal I am currently working on solving issues in it that will allow us to complete the basic user story Dave mentioned for a font design project
12:35 I am stuck on one problem, how can a widget be updated(a drawing area be redrawn) when an global variable changes it's value
12:36 I know it's pretty basic, but still the notify event doesn't run on variable change, also the variable is an object of another class
12:37 walterbender yagarwal, how do you know the variable has changed?
12:37 can you "watch" it and trigger an update?
12:38 yagarwal I can set a counter for it, eg. dirty = True means it's changed
12:38 walterbender : what do you mean by "watch"?
12:40 walterbender yagarwal, /me tries to recall an example from Sugar
12:40 yagarwal, I'll get back to you with an example
12:41 yagarwal walterbender: thanks
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12:44 walterbender anyone else today?
12:44 llaske_ has quit IRC
12:45 mohayon Yes, I'll talk for Jeremie
12:45 He's at a job interview
12:46 So we have all thz major tasks working. Switching to sugarizer as a launcher, seeing and launching android apps
12:46 He has improved perfs and fixed some bugs
12:47 Next thing is to polish the ui :)
12:48 walterbender sounds great
12:48 eli_h <eli_h!~elih@ool-18b9572a.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #sugar-meeting
12:49 yagarwal Hi Eli
12:49 eli_h hey :-)
12:49 walterbender hi eli_h
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12:54 davelab6 <davelab6!~webchat@rev-18-85-44-69.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting
12:54 davelab6 hey sorry i am late :)
12:56 yagarwal hi davelab6
12:57 davelab6 just reading the logs :)
12:57 http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]6-07-22#i_2877640
12:57 'how can a widget be updated(a drawing area be redrawn) when an global variable changes it's value'
12:57 eli_h reads logs
12:57 davelab6 defcon uses the observer pattern
12:57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_pattern
12:58 http://ts-defcon.readthedocs.i[…]otifications.html
12:58 yagarwal Yeah, but I'm not able to use that, I have been trying this from the starting on the week
12:59 davelab6 if you dont send daily updates with questions, we cant answer them :)
12:59 yagarwal now I have wrapped that defcon variable inside a GObject class and I'm trying to use the notify event
12:59 davelab6 ok
12:59 which file is this in?
13:00 yagarwal not updated the code yet, I'll push the changes in little while
13:00 davelab6 ok :)
13:01 yagarwal also I forgot to mention, in the current .xo if you right click on the glyph the pentool will be activated
13:01 and you can draw contours with lines
13:06 walterbender yagarwal, I'll take a look as well once you push those changes
13:06 yagarwal ok
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13:10 davelab6 walterbender: thoughts on aug 6/7 weekend?
13:13 walterbender davelab6, I am still working on it. I am not around on the 7th :P
13:18 davelab6 OK :)
13:18 when will you know? :)
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13:22 walterbender davelab6, hopeflly end of the day today.
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13:35 walterbender oh
13:35 #end-meeting
13:35 meeting Meeting ended Fri Jul 22 13:35:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4)
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