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#sugar-meeting meeting, 2016-06-10 12:03:57

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12:03 meeting Meeting started Fri Jun 10 12:03:57 2016 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
12:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
12:04 samtoday AbrahmAB: no I don't think they would... why don't we talk more about the approach that you were aiming for first?
12:04 AbrahmAB Hi all, I am woking on sharing the *project*
12:05 As per my approach, let project be treated as *activity* and collab it with other users, this will keep user updated about new activitis added or reomved
12:06 samtoday ah, that makes sense now.  That is a good approach
12:06 AbrahmAB just like activities like write or physics have collabwrapper or textwrapper project will have its own wrapper keeping track of changes in each and every activity
12:07 samtoday can you explain a little more on what that means?
12:07 does that involve changing the activity code?
12:07 does taht
12:07 sorry
12:08 AbrahmAB It will have keep udating the list of activity_ids in project
12:09 updating*
12:10 as you said for FT approach just sending a file with list of activities under proj, my approach will keep a track of instances of activities shared
12:11 samtoday AbrahmAB:  so for treating each project as an activity, does that mean basically using a CollabWrapper (or simmilar) to do the comminications?
12:12 AbrahmAB samtoday: yes
12:12 samtoday ok
12:12 ah, we can do that!
12:12 AbrahmAB samtoday: I think this might be better for further development like offline sync. am I right?
12:13 samtoday AbrahmAB: so if we have a comms channel for all the buddies in the project, that is good.  Then they can know who is disconnected.
12:13 that probably helps offline sync?
12:14 AbrahmAB: do you want to make a pad to write out the design details?  https://etherpad.net/p/journal-projects
12:14 AbrahmAB like whenever user gets connected, the collabwarpper would run in background and chk for changes in any activities and notify the user for same
12:15 walterbender AbrahmAB, what action does the user take after notification?
12:15 can they request updated objs from the datastore?
12:15 samtoday AbrahmAB: you are so smart.  this is exactly what a text channel is designed for!!  A long running conversation over a group of people!
12:17 AbrahmAB walterbender: as per my discussion with Sam, there are a few cases, so we can allow users to either update the shared obj with the local obj or the reverse
12:17 samtoday: :)
12:17 walterbender we should let some others report in... thank AbrahmAB
12:18 lp1, wanna update us?
12:18 lp1 sure :)
12:18 AbrahmAB walterbender: welcum
12:18 lp1 This week I mostly worked on the interaction between JavaScript and Java(Android) code,
12:18 I've been able to call from my sugarizeros javascript plugin a Java method to retrieve my application list and I managed to regroup the modifications made by my cordova plugins into one plugin : https://github.com/lupin012345[…]lugin-sugarizeros. We had a meeting with Lionel Laské and Michael Ohayon, and they oriented me through a documentation phase before starting the next major code updates.
12:18 So I have made a more explicit readme for the SugarizerOS repo (https://github.com/lupin012345/SugarizerOS) with the deployment and installation steps and right now I'm writing a specification for my JavaScript API so I will explicitly know what I am going to implement function by function : https://github.com/lupin012345[…]pt_interface.json.
12:19 walterbender lp1, great
12:19 I am in Chile next week and there are lots of people interested in doing some Sugar web hacking
12:19 (and Python samtoday :)
12:20 have some up-to-date docs will be helpful
12:20 samtoday :) I'll have a look at the state of the sugar3 docs
12:23 walterbender yagarwal, wanna jump in?
12:23 lp1, I'll review your documentation this weekend.
12:23 lp1 Ok ! Thanks :)
12:23 yagarwal sure, I tried a lot things this week but got stuck on the following
12:24 1. Setting up Travis CI for our sugar repo-- I have reported the issue with travis ci developers here(https://github.com/travis-ci/t[…]s-ci/issues/6152)
12:24 2. Working with observer Pattern:  because the font data files need to be updated every time user makes a change in the data and the View has to be updated every time the user clicks a button or iteracts with view -- I have been reading on this and plan to finsish this issue over the weekend There is no extensive documentation available for pyGObject (most of it is for C)
12:24 3. Working with imports and exports I went through the code for fontmake and fonttools but neither of them do the complete job of converting a ufo font file to a .ttf and vice versa now I am working with extract(https://github.com/typesupply/extractor) as suggested by Dave and will be able to implement the export/import over the weekend
12:28 elih looks good Yash :)
12:29 walterbender yagarwal, sounds like good progress
12:29 vikram_ <vikram_!uid165104@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ftydvsblglbzjwiv> has joined #sugar-meeting
12:29 walterbender elih, any chance to try besier curves in turtle yet?
12:29 :)
12:30 send me some data to try to import.
12:30 things a plugin for importing a font would be fun
12:30 vikram_, hello
12:30 vikram_ Walter hi, did i miss the meeting? i had a very poor internet connection
12:31 walterbender vikram_, I will find you the link for the backlog
12:31 vikram_, so I have been thinking...
12:31 elih Walter and Yash: I've been AFK and preoccupied starting a new job this week.
12:31 walterbender (doesn't happen often)
12:31 elih, no hurry... just curious
12:32 elih, I suspect my current scheme might run into issues with fill... not sure.
12:33 vikram_, anyway... I have been bumping my head against all sorts of cross-origin issues
12:33 I am hopeful that the git backend will help
12:35 elih I have been experimenting with using CSS to style GTK buttons...
12:35 walterbender has had a busy time with his Day Job this week too
12:35 samtoday might have some recommendations
12:35 vikram_ And also i could not do much this week as i had very less power and Internet connection in the city. Yes gitbackend will definitely help
12:35 elih Can anyone recommend a python gtk sugar activity that does this well?
12:36 samtoday for gtk?
12:36 elih i haven't been able to find one.
12:36 yes
12:37 yagarwal there are some demos for CSS in gtk here https://git.gnome.org/browse/p[…]tk-demo/demos/Css
12:37 walterbender vikram_, FYI #link http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]ng/meetings/today
12:38 yagarwal they only cover the basics but may be useful in starting things
12:38 samtoday elih: an activity that uses gtk well?  an activity that uses gtk css?
12:38 elih thanks Yash, I'll haven't looked at these yet.
12:38 gtk css
12:40 I'm wondering if there is a reason more gtk activities don't use CSS to style buttons, backgrounds, etc...
12:42 walterbender elih, we abstracted most of the need for that away in the Sugar toolkit
12:42 yagarwal can someone recommend an sugar python/gtk activity which has with multiple screens/UI's, so that I can look through the source code and draw some inspiration :)
12:42 walterbender elih, but samtoday has been updating the toolkit itself to make better use of CSS
12:42 yagarwal or maybe an activity with oberserver pattern
12:42 walterbender yagarwal, multiple screens is contrary to the sugar design guidelines
12:42 we try to avoid it
12:43 but we do have some activities with multiple tabs
12:43 samtoday PopWindows for the win!
12:43 walterbender like terminal, pippy, browse
12:43 and we have different modes, like speak
12:44 turtle overlays the modes ontop of each other and you can hide the individual layers
12:44 but we don't tend to use a lot of windows inside windows...
12:44 elih Walter: ok, that makes sense
12:44 vikram_ I will have a look at it
12:45 samtoday elih: for looking at gtkcss, have you see the gtk+ inspector?
12:45 Ctrl-Shift-I
12:46 walterbender did I miss anyone today re updates?
12:46 samtoday elih: sorry, I need to go.   I'm always happy to talk about gtk if you want.  or there is probably actual people who know about gtk on #gtk :)
12:46 samtoday has quit IRC
12:48 tony37 I think Utkarsh is getting ready for his trip to Nepal. He has just finished exams, so not much progress to report. I should finish traveling on Tuesday and be ready for more focus on this.
12:49 walterbender tony37, thx
12:50 lp1, mohayon did you guys see the question ricar posted to the lists about sugar web?
12:50 he was having trouble with downloads inside sugarweb?
12:51 lp1 I did, looked at his code a little bit but didn't run it yet to try
12:52 walterbender I couldn't see where he was trying to download
12:52 if you guys could follow up with him, would be great.
12:52 lp1 Ok :)
12:53 mohayon Yes, we'll look at it :)
12:54 walterbender thx
12:54 OK... we should wrap up.
12:54 thanks all for reporting in and for the hard work.
12:54 Next week we mentors have to do mid-term evaluations
12:55 so make us proud :)
12:55 AbrahmAB sure :D
12:55 walterbender ttyl
12:55 #end-meeting
12:55 tony37 bye
12:55 meeting Meeting ended Fri Jun 10 12:55:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4)
12:55 lp1 bye
12:55 meeting Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]-10T12:03:57.html
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