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| 14:55 |
meeting |
Meeting started Sat May 14 14:55:57 2016 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:55 |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
| 14:56 |
davelab6 |
#link https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]ning_Weekend_2016 |
| 14:56 |
walterbender |
#idea coffee |
| 14:58 |
cjl |
has tea instead |
| 14:59 |
davelab6 |
eli, walter and have been discussing various sugar labs historical trivia |
| 15:00 |
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but relevant to the wiki gardening |
| 15:00 |
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we discussed looking for pages relevant to the info arch plan I wrote, and marking pages as deprecated where we find them |
| 15:00 |
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#link https://github.com/sugarlabs/w[…]ster/STRUCTURE.md |
| 15:01 |
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#action mark pages as deprecated |
| 15:04 |
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http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Template:Deprecated exists |
| 15:04 |
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http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Template:Deprecated does not exist |
| 15:06 |
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| 15:10 |
cjl |
davelab6: Something that you guys might want to chat about is the situation with SOAS. As satellit pointed out ot me the other day, SOAS is not going to make the Fedora24 release. |
| 15:10 |
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This is very unfortunate. |
| 15:10 |
satellit |
it may still make it...depends on fix to a builder bug |
| 15:11 |
cjl |
satellit thanks for the clarification. |
| 15:11 |
satellit |
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sh[…]ug.cgi?id=1315541 |
| 15:12 |
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unfortunatly we are not a blockable distribution |
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for release |
| 15:13 |
tony37 |
what is the consequence if SOAS does not make the release? |
| 15:13 |
satellit |
FYI https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_24 |
| 15:16 |
cjl |
tony37: I don't exactly know. My fear is that it is possible we could lose our spot on the spin page if we do not have a current F24-based spin. |
| 15:17 |
tony37 |
Do we have any idea how many SOAS users we get from that? |
| 15:17 |
satellit |
we may though adamw in #fedora-qa and peter robinson are on our side here |
| 15:18 |
cjl |
tony37: I don't think we get download stats, but I bet they exist. |
| 15:18 |
davelab6 |
cjl: how does this relate to the wiki> |
| 15:18 |
satellit |
also it is installable as sugar-desktop in another DE |
| 15:18 |
cjl |
davelab6: Not strictly wiki related, but there are useful people in the room and chat. |
| 15:19 |
davelab6 |
#info https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Template:Deprecated is now working, with https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team/Roadmap as the first page marked that way; walterbender is working on a guide page about how to mark a page as deprecated |
| 15:19 |
cjl |
davelab6: It occurred to me in looking at your conversion funnel for the web-page tha tSOAS plays a role. |
| 15:19 |
davelab6 |
cjl: it seems best to discuss that on sugar-devel |
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:) |
| 15:21 |
walterbender |
just added https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]/Page_Deprecation |
| 15:21 |
davelab6 |
#link https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]/Page_Deprecation |
| 15:22 |
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#idea we'll also add a new template for 'to be migrated to the website' |
| 15:22 |
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we are stepping out for 30 mins to grab coffee |
| 15:23 |
cjl |
Do you guys all have wiki admin privs? They may be needed, I'm a b'crat, so I can promote people to admin if needed. |
| 15:24 |
tony37 |
Shouldn't a deprecated page have a link to the more usefule page? |
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| 15:28 |
cjl |
tony37: ofcourse, thus this test in the category ot be pasted in deprecated |some text pointing to an [[alternative page]] |
| 15:29 |
tony37 |
good! |
| 15:31 |
cjl |
FWIW, I declare a benevolent dictatorship over the https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team namespace :-) |
| 15:31 |
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Challenges accepted in the form of fish-slapping at arms length. |
| 15:41 |
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walterbender: Just an FYI, I transferred completed strings from Deducto to ColorDeducto on Pootle. |
| 15:41 |
tony37 |
sadly, I think the fish here by the Adriatic are not big enough for an effective challenge |
| 15:45 |
cjl |
tony37: I'm in communication with a JavaScript based project that is using Pootle. I hope they will arrive at optimal i18n/L10n workflow that we can copy for Sugarizer et al. |
| 15:45 |
tony37 |
How does this compare with the method used by Walter for TurtleBlocks.js |
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I assume his software was not pootle compatible |
| 15:46 |
cjl |
We can ask him when he gets back. |
| 15:47 |
tony37 |
ok |
| 15:47 |
walterbender |
tony37, I have a series of scripts I wrote to scrape strings and generate the POT file |
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which is pootle-compliant AFAIK |
| 15:47 |
davelab6 |
cjl: Davelab6 is my wiki username |
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:) |
| 15:48 |
walterbender |
there is a second step, to generate a .ini file from the PO files that JS uses for the actual string subsitution. |
| 15:48 |
tony37 |
What does javascript use for the __gettext__ function? |
| 15:48 |
walterbender |
that is some library I have been using... one sec |
| 15:49 |
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#link https://github.com/walterbende[…]er/lib/webL10n.js |
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I am not thrilled with how it works |
| 15:49 |
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but it is generally getting the job done. |
| 15:50 |
tony37 |
We probably need something that can work with Sugarizer |
| 15:50 |
walterbender |
tony37, there is also: https://github.com/walterbende[…]L10n.sugarizer.js |
| 15:50 |
cjl |
davelab6: are you asking for wiki admin? I will grant on a temporary basis, for permanent privsm I would defer t oFGrose. |
| 15:51 |
walterbender |
tony37, my scripts, which I have not tested exhaustively, are here: |
| 15:51 |
tony37 |
I would propose we use 'hello world' as an example of the process. I can take a look at that tomorrow. |
| 15:51 |
walterbender |
https://github.com/walterbender/po-utils |
| 15:51 |
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tony37, yes... would be good. |
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as you can see, my documentation of the process is a bit sketchy |
| 15:52 |
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https://github.com/walterbende[…]/master/README.md |
| 15:52 |
tony37 |
I'll give it a go and see if we can document a simple case |
| 15:54 |
cjl |
also look at http://i18next.com/ |
| 15:55 |
satellit |
afk |
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| 15:56 |
tony37 |
ok |
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I assume goal is to have js projects in translate.sugarlabs.org |
| 15:58 |
cjl |
tony37: Yes, provide clear "best prqactices" fori18n of JS projects and simple round-trip to Pootle (via PO files), just like gettext does. |
| 16:00 |
tony37 |
ok |
| 16:09 |
davelab6 |
cjl: why temp? |
| 16:10 |
cjl |
davelab6: Only because there istypically a process for granting them permanently that should be observed. |
| 16:10 |
davelab6 |
cjl: cool, ill let you know if its needed |
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thanks :) |
| 16:10 |
cjl |
More so on w.l.o that w.sl.o |
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| 16:31 |
cjl |
rebooting |
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| 16:33 |
walterbender |
anyone know how to set the link color in line in a wiki page? |
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| 16:43 |
walterbender |
is struggling a bit trying clean things up. |
| 16:44 |
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I think we need to decide on, for example, one place to send people for setting up the Sugar env. |
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we have 3-4 different explanations in the Activity Team pages for just that one task!!! |
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Aaargh |
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davelab6 |
walterbender: i do |
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<div style="color:pink">[[link]]</div> |
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cjl |
elih: Did you get wiki account password? |
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| 17:00 |
tony37 |
I am not sure of the connection so I'll say goodbye for today |
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| 17:04 |
davelab6 |
thanks tony!! |
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walterbender: ill make a 'migration' template |
| 17:06 |
elih |
cjl: yes, I'm logged in now, thank you! |
| 17:06 |
cjl |
elih: welcome |
| 17:10 |
davelab6 |
#action make a 'migrate this to www-sugar' wiki template |
| 17:26 |
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#link the sidebar is at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/MediaWiki:Sidebar |
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i cant edit it |
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as my wiki username doesnt have privs |
| 17:28 |
cjl |
need them? |
| 17:30 |
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davelab6: I can grant you admin |
| 17:34 |
davelab6 |
were just using walters laptop atm |
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but yes please :) |
| 17:35 |
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#idea i see there are a lot of activities pages, some with very good and extensive documentation about the activity. given offline usage is a key usage scenario for deployments, i think these ought to be packaged into the activities :) |
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cjl: thanks! |
| 17:38 |
cjl |
davelab6: you may need to log off/on wiki to pick up admin priv. |
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davelab6: oneof the columns on my ASLO inventory is for wiki page link. |
| 17:41 |
davelab6 |
oneof the columns on my ASLO inventory is for wiki page link <-- sorry i didnt understad |
| 17:51 |
cjl |
I have an inventory spreadsheet of ASLO activities. One of the data fileds I am recording is the wiki page for the activity. |
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samsongoddy |
hello guys |
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quidam |
hi |
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samsongoddy |
hi |
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cjl |
hall quidam, howhaveyou been? |
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satellit_e |
have you looked at this older wiki page? |
| 18:29 |
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https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]on_Kit#Activities |
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https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]vity_Test_Results |
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activities numeric is good reference |
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| 18:50 |
cjl |
davelab6: see https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Category:Obsolete |
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Ibiam |
hello everyone |
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davelab6 |
cjl: ah i see, thats great |
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cjl: is it online? |
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| 19:32 |
Ibiam |
UNIGNORE walterbender |
| 19:32 |
satellit_e |
sugar-network and sweets-distribution? Is this no longer active? |
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satellit_e |
I have not seen Aleksey lately |
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davelab6 |
#action ive redirected the deprecated template to the existing obsolete one |
| 19:43 |
cjl |
davelab6: ASLO spreadsheet not currently online, still under development. |
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samsongoddy |
hello guys |
| 19:44 |
cjl |
hi samsongoddy |
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samsongoddy |
how are you doing? |
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cjl |
pretty good |
| 19:46 |
samsongoddy |
walterbender, ping |
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walterbender |
samsongoddy, pong |
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| 19:49 |
samsongoddy |
so walter, what about the laptop update |
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satellit |
also I found this test day : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki[…]esktop#Activities |
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be nice to hold a similar one for f24.. |
| 20:18 |
davelab6 |
#action walterbender will graduate https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team |
| 20:18 |
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satellit: for sure :) |
| 20:19 |
satellit |
the wiki page needs updating for you cleaned up activities in 0.108 : ) |
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you/your* |
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davelab6 |
#action bernie to remove onebar from http://people.sugarlabs.org |
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satellit: what do you mean? :) |
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davelab6web |
jhjhjh |
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satellit |
davelab6 someone needs to edit that page and list 0.108 compatable activities to test |
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it is easy to edit the media-wiki on fedora....same as our wiki |
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also what is the graphical sugarlabs.wiki that I hit sometimes It seems to occupy the https:// location if our http:// wiki page does not redirect |
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have to go out...afk |
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davelab6 |
satellit: i dont know what you mean :) |
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davelab6 |
walterbender: please review https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/[…]tUsers/bureaucrat |
| 22:06 |
walterbender |
davelab6, could you peek at the new text at the top of the Design Team page? |
| 22:12 |
davelab6 |
walterbender: i reviewed and made this change, https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ind[…]98496&oldid=98489 |
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#idea remove the unused wikis from repos in https://github.com/sugarlabs |
| 22:16 |
satellit_e |
davelab6: I sent e-mail reply to you. That is where our content is uploaded for the wiki....[1] [2] |
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Please do not eliminate this! |
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These very important user's pages! |
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[1] http://people.sugarlabs.org/tgilliard/ |
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[2] https://download.sugarlabs.org/packages/ |
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davelab6 |
satellit_e: why is it important? |
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satellit_e |
all of my work on sugar-creation kit links to it.... |
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it is where I upload content |
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I am sure other users of sugar feel the same |
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maybe you should ask each of them if their user page is important first |
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satellit_e |
actually the activities link lists all versions of activities by number also |
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davelab6 |
satellit_e: would you be willing to upload to the wiki directly, and release via github, going forwards? |
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satellit_e |
davelab6 if I am shown how to do it |
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I do have access to the wiki now for uploading files to tgilliard |
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in people |
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plus normal media-wiki editing |
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remember I am mainly a non-programming tester and wiki page maintainer |
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old G1-G1 volunteer (73 yrs) : ( |
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I am testing sugar in Ubuntu 16. Mate on rpi3 atm.... |
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armhf |
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off to bed...afk |
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