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Meeting started Mon Nov 30 23:02:08 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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tch__ |
hello everyone! |
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walterbender |
#topic Google Code In |
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nemesiscodex_ |
Hello! |
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walterbender |
thanks everyone for coming to the meeting |
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We have one week until GCI begins. |
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We already have > 150 individual tasks |
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and I have more tasks to add from Devin ( pikurasa ) and Tony |
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Music Blocks tasks |
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and a list of broken activities on 108 |
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tch__ |
walterbender: wow |
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walterbender |
so generally I think we are in good shape to get started |
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Patty_ |
Im back, sorry I dont know what happened |
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walterbender |
Mariah made a great poster we can use to advertize the contest |
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samdroid |
I need to change the collab tasks around a bit, so I'll probably write up a porting guide soon |
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Patty_ |
150 tasks! wow |
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that is great |
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walterbender |
I uploaded it to the wiki (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/imag[…]garlabs-2015.png) |
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Patty_ |
I can translate the poster to spanish |
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walterbender |
She is going to share the SVG file so we can have a Spanish version too |
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Patty_ |
if its useful |
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samdroid |
[unrelated] for the collab tasks, can I say to use this api: https://github.com/sugarlabs/s[…]kit-gtk3/pull/267 |
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Patty_ |
it is really cool, i like it |
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walterbender |
please share the link on social media |
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samdroid, I will amend the tasks to include that link |
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(for the GTK3 tasks) |
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tch__ |
samdroid: ok, ill review it, so we can move on with these changes |
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samdroid |
walterbender: I can fix them |
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walterbender: But I'll write up a guide |
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tch__ |
samdroid: before GCI starts |
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walterbender |
great |
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please do |
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As a reminder, we can continue to add more tasks throughout the contest |
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and undoubtedly we will |
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Patty_ |
If I translate the poster kids of Uruguay, Paraguay and other countries might join |
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tch__ |
samdroid: you had other PRs related to that one? |
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walterbender |
often the kids come up with good ideas for tasks |
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Patty_ |
I have to add my tasks.. in the following days I promise |
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samdroid |
tch__: yeah |
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walterbender |
what I want to discuss today is logistics |
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samdroid |
tch__: https://github.com/sugarlabs/s[…]kit-gtk3/pull/270 |
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sorry gtg bye |
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walterbender |
we have a lot of mentors and have a lot of timezones covered, which is great |
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It would be ideal if we had at least 1 or 2 mentors on IRC 24/7 |
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pikurasa |
on #sugar IRC? |
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walterbender |
pikurasa, yes |
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pikurasa, I am hoping some of our mentors in India can do some late-night shifts (day time for them) |
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Ignacio__ |
Hi |
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walterbender |
We need to give rapid feedback |
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tch__ |
walterbender: I can cover the mornings, from 11:00 to 15:00 UTC |
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Ignacio__ |
Sorry for being late. |
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tch__ |
that is PY mornings |
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walterbender |
I can cover from 7 to 11 |
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in addition to coverage, we need to have some level of consistency regarding the quality of the work |
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IMHO we need to maintain the same standards for work as we'd expect of any community member. |
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tch__ |
walterbender: +1, lets not worry about deadlines and give students more time for the tasks if we think they moving in the right direction |
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walterbender |
we can always extend the time on a task and we should do so |
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there is no reason I can think of not to grant a request for more time |
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flexible on time, but not on quality |
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It is a good lesson to be held to a high standard |
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the contest is as much about learning as coding |
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tch__ |
walterbender: clear to me ;) |
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pikurasa |
walterbender, I like that idea, but is there a conflict of interest since students want to complete more tasks for credit. |
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? |
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Patty_ |
I can be almost every day for outreach tasks from 20:00 to 24:00 UTC.. hope next year I can code a bit :P |
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walterbender |
I am not sure with this year's backend if anyone can sign off on a task or only the mentors assigned to the task |
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ignacio_ |
I think nobody will work 24/7 |
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Thats so much (I talk in base of experience) |
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scg |
Hi, I won't be too available since December 14 to 26. So, I will need help in that period. After that I will be much available. Anyway, I will do my best to at least give some help once a day on that period. |
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pikurasa |
(Do they get more credit for quality?) |
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walterbender |
scg, that is OK |
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pikurasa, they get credit for completing tasks. |
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pikurasa, it is up to the mentors to keep the bar high in terms of quality |
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pikurasa, some tasks are easier than others... that is the nature of the contest |
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scg |
Can someone add me as a mentor to the tasks related |
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pikurasa |
So, we all have to be in on the quality thing? That is fine with me. |
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scg |
To sysadmin? |
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walterbender |
scg, I can add you to whatever tasks you are interested in... |
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scg |
Sorry, I'm on my phone. |
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walterbender |
scg, I'll make sure you are added... |
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ignacio_ |
pikurasa: that doesn't matter.. Its quality over quantity.. |
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As a ex-student you need to focus on the task |
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and research it |
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Ignacio__ |
I had lag.. |
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noemu |
I can commit to 16:00 to 20:00 UTC |
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scg |
walterbender, I will check It and let you know. Thanks |
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Ignacio__ |
I will be able to mentor while I'm online |
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pikurasa |
walterbender, I repeated what you said. I get it. Will push for quality. |
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walterbender |
pikurasa, :) |
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any other questions? |
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pikurasa |
On the topic of quality... |
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Ignacio__ |
Are the mentors active in community? |
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nemesiscodex_ |
walterbender: Can I make a list of the tasks I want to mentor and send it to you? |
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Ignacio__ |
Not in community |
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pikurasa |
I think that the ball is somewhat in our court to articulate what we really want. |
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walterbender |
nemesiscodex_, yes, please |
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Ignacio__ |
I meant, last year we had few mentors that weren't able to look at tasks.. |
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And you had to look them |
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pikurasa |
So, let's make sure to put specifics and non-trivial details into our tasks, I think. |
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walterbender |
Ignacio__, I think all of the mentors have been active in different spheres |
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ignacio, I didn't invite anyone to be a mentor who was not active |
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Ignacio__ |
By not active I mean all the contrst |
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For code tasks, mentors need to ask you first Walter? Or tch |
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Before we close them |
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walterbender |
ignacio, I think the mentors assigned to the task can make the decsions |
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tch__ |
ignacio, that shouldn't be a requirement, but we can look at them if you need it, e,g. if is a code task, and it follow our code review/process etc, then it should be fine |
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walterbender |
but please feel free to ask for help |
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Ignacio__ |
Okay, thanks :) |
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walterbender |
any more questions? |
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nemesiscodex_ |
If there a specific requirement to create a task? |
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is* |
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tch__ |
nemesiscodex_: only needs to comply with GCI categories I suppose |
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nemesiscodex_: it is very flexible in reality |
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walterbender |
nemesiscodex_, I will review the tasks, but basically anything that is in the interest of the community (with the exception of translation tasks) |
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I guess that there was some abuse of translation tasks in the past :P |
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tch__ |
yep, to bad really, it is useful |
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s/to/too |
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nemesiscodex_ |
So I will create the tasks directly in the page and will be reviewed, right? |
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walterbender |
nemesiscodex_, yes |
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nemesiscodex_ |
ok :) |
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walterbender |
when you create them, they are "draft" |
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I will then "publish" them |
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nemesiscodex_ |
got it |
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tch__ |
walterbender: have you heard back from lionel? |
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walterbender: did he sent you his tasks/ |
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? |
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walterbender |
tch__,yes |
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tch__ |
walterbender: great! |
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walterbender |
he has added some and will be adding more |
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11 tasks so far |
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tch__, can you add Patty_ to some tasks? |
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lots she might be interested in |
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tch__ |
walterbender: yes |
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Patty_ |
walterbender: sure! |
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walterbender |
I see there are a few other mentors without tasks yet |
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walterbender |
I can add you to tasks you have interest in and of course, new tasks welcome |
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anything else? |
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I will email a link for the minutes |
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noemu |
is there a place the participants can collectively post their outreach task responses? |
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tch__ |
noemu: we could create a wiki page? |
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noemu |
that's what i was thinking, perhaps a wiki page |
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i think it would be nice to have a collection of the posts rather than them getting scattered around |
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it's easier for their peers to see what they're working on too |
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nemesiscodex_ |
I like that |
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walterbender |
+1 |
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I guess we are done for today |
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pikurasa |
Okay, I need to go. Feel free to contact me if you need anything. |
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walterbender |
thanks everyone |
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pikurasa |
Thanks! |
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nemesiscodex_ |
Thanks! |
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walterbender |
#end-meeting |
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