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Meeting started Mon Sep 14 23:17:25 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Excellent... |
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Quozl` |
attends as observer |
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walterbender |
great to have a quorum :) |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Hello! |
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walterbender |
#topic trademark |
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Did everyone see the note from the SFC regarding our trademark? |
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gonzalo |
yes |
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meeting |
<Jose_Miguel-es> *Yes. |
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walterbender |
from tony: Hi, all: FYI, I will be filing affidavits required to maintain the |
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registration of Sugar Labs' trademarks[1] with the USPTO. The affidavit |
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filing fees amount to $100/registered mark, or $200, and are required to |
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maintain the registrations. |
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I think we should approve this |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Of agreement. |
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walterbender |
let me make a formal motion and we can discuss before a vote |
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motion: approve the expenditure of $600 on maintaining our trademark as per the notification from Tony Sebro of the SFC |
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anyone to second the motion? |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> It is a problem abandon the mark, as it runs the risk that it was registered by others, for afterwards earn by his use. |
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claudia_ <claudia_!~webchat rev-18-85-44-69.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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walterbender |
hi claudia |
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claudia_ |
hello |
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walterbender |
we are discussing the trademark maintenance |
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claudia_ |
how are you? |
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CanoeBerry |
Can we get a rough reminder how much is "in the bank" ? |
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walterbender |
JM_, I think the issue is that we want to ensure that no one uses our mark to mislead others |
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CanoeBerry, I don't know... that remains opaque. |
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CanoeBerry, but that said, we just got a 6K donation from Google |
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as a thank you for GCI |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Exact! |
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walterbender |
so I don't think it is a worry to spend $600. |
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CanoeBerry |
OK |
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Motion seconded. |
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walterbender |
any more discussion? |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, how much time we will have the trademark protected? |
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claudia_ |
talking about this... Irma (UY) sent me a request to provide a letter to "certify" she is a sugarlabs colunteer |
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*volunteer |
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walterbender |
I think it is 5 more years |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, ok, thanks |
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claudia_ |
ok with me too |
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walterbender |
gonzalo, actually, I think it maybe longer |
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meeting |
<Jose_Miguel-es> Voucher with me |
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walterbender |
I can double-check with Tony |
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CanoeBerry |
many sites seem to say 10: "You must renew your trademark registration between the 9th and 10th year following your registration date, and each successive ten-year period thereafter." |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry, that is what I thought. Not sure why Tony thinks we need to do it now |
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We can ask him. |
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I think this is actually a one-time maintenance issue about incontestability |
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it strengthens our claim |
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I defer to the lawyers in this case |
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CanoeBerry |
Clarif: "You must file the Combined Declaration, specimen, and fee on a date that falls on or between the fifth (5th) and sixth (6th) anniversaries of the registration (or, for an extra fee of $100.00 per class, you may file within the six-month grace period following the sixth anniversary date)." http://www.uspto.gov/trademark[…]ration-maintenanc |
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erenewalcorrection-forms |
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walterbender |
so it seems it is time to file |
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shall we vote? |
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CanoeBerry |
Yes, and the every-10-year stuff happens later, starting 9th/10th year. |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, yes |
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walterbender |
yes |
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CanoeBerry |
+1 |
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walterbender |
+1 |
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gonzalo |
+1 |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> +1 |
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walterbender |
claudia_, ? |
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claudia_ |
+1 |
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walterbender |
motion passes :) |
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thanks everyone |
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#topic Google programs |
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claudia_ |
:) |
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walterbender |
We just finished up GSoC. |
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had very good work done on 5 of 6 projects |
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one fail :( |
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and as I mentioned, we just got $6000 US from Google as a thank you for our participation in GCI last year |
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which brings me to GCI 2015/16 |
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claudia_ |
great... I have not followed the projects at all |
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walterbender |
the announcement for applications will be made soon |
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do we want to participate again this year? |
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if so, I will prepare the application |
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(it is a lot of work to prepare, so I don't want to do it if we don't have consensus) |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, i can't compromise time in the near future, sorry |
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claudia_ |
you do a lot of the work... I feel it is such a great opportunity to do work with countries.. but it is hard |
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walterbender |
gonzalo, mentor time is of the essence. |
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I have a new project I am involved in that is taking a lot of my time as well |
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so I may be less able to give instant feedback 24/7 |
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I guess I need to feel out the community to see if there will be sufficient support. |
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if so, I think we should do it as I think it is both a great tool for us... it is how we found, for example, samdroid |
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but also, it is in the spirit of what Sugar Labs is supposed to be doing |
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encouraging our users to become developers |
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claudia_ |
walterbender: asking if the community wants to propose and mentor projects |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, if we don't have resources to do good mentoring, i prefer skip this year |
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walterbender |
claudia_, I ask ever year and most often generate the project list myself |
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last year samdroid helped me :) |
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gonzalo |
sorry to sound pessimistic, but we need be responsible |
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walterbender |
note that he did not work on any of the projects he proposed :) |
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gonzalo, I agree. It has largely been on my shoulders and I cannot do it by myself this year |
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Quozl` |
comment: overextending seems much more likely to occur given who is available this time. |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, i know you do a big part of the job |
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walterbender |
gonzalo, you don't know the half of it :P |
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gonzalo |
sure |
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walterbender |
I did manage to find new mentors for GSoC, all of whom worked out very well |
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maybe I can find new mentors for GCI |
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I will try |
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and get back to you about my results |
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meanwhile I will not submit an application. |
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claudia_ |
ok |
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walterbender |
#topic membership and the election |
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as per claudia_ 's question earlier, irma should get onto the members list |
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claudia_ |
ok |
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walterbender |
and certainly JM_ could vouch for her |
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meanwhile I have heard nothing from icarito etr al. about the election |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, claudia, irma is already in the list |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> *Ok |
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gonzalo |
she need a paper to present in a training she is doing |
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i don't know if we have a procedure to extend community participation certificates |
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walterbender |
I think it is fine to have a SLOB member write something |
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and maybe we can turn it into a standard form? |
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gonzalo |
claudia_, can you do it? |
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claudia_ |
sounds good to me |
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I can work on it... and circulate |
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who would sign? |
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walterbender |
I think any SLOB member could do it unilaterally |
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claudia_ |
ok |
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walterbender |
but I suppose we should discuss |
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claudia_ |
I can sign |
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I will do the form first and circulate before I move forward |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> It is good idea. |
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walterbender |
regardless of the wording, we should have a process by which such certificates are issed |
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claudia_ |
the topic came up with Tony too.. for the paper Walter, Tony, Andres, Guzman wrote |
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walterbender |
would be nice if we dont have to debate each instance at these meetings |
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but had a simple mechanism |
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claudia_ |
agree |
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walterbender |
I propose that SLOB members be empowered with unilateral decisionmaking power |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Of agreement. And do a register of each one... |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Perhaps public? |
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walterbender |
JM_, yes... we can report at these meetings any certificates we issue |
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so it is part of the public record |
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claudia_ |
perhaps have some requirements.. |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Of agreement |
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walterbender |
claudia_, I think the requirements are so varied in terms of what partiicpation is... teachers, coders, etc. |
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so I think a human judgment is appropriate |
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sdanielf <sdanielf!~webchatrev-18-85-44-69.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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claudia_ |
we could say "meet at least 2 out of 5 requirements" |
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gonzalo |
we should solve this just requesting confirmation from another slob member in mailing list or something similar |
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walterbender |
gonzalo, not sure that helps with claudia_ 's question |
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ignacio |
Hi anyone |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, re: requirements? |
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claudia_ |
until we have a process in place, I can draft something and circulate with Walter |
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ignacio |
*everyone :) |
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gonzalo |
claudia_, +1 |
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walterbender |
hi ignacio |
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+1 claudia_ |
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gonzalo |
hi ignacio |
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claudia_ |
ok |
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thanks |
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Walter... did you mention the articles? |
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ignacio |
about gci (I know I'm late) I received a few questions from young/classmates about the contest |
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I think we need a better advertise in case that we participate |
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walterbender |
ignacio, maybe you and samdroid and I can discuss after the meeting? |
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ignacio |
Oh, sure |
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walterbender |
back to the topic for one sec |
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I worry that once again the election process is stalled |
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can we appoint a SLOB member to work with the committee to make sure things move forward? |
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any volunteers? |
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CanoeBerry, ??? |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, at least we should ask to the comite by email and openly in the mailimg list for the status |
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walterbender, some of the has been very vocal about the lack of a election |
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walterbender, some of them has been very vocal about the lack of a election |
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walterbender |
yes |
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so perhaps one of our more vocal members should take the lead on this... |
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why I recommend CanoeBerry |
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CanoeBerry |
i can talk to Caryl Bigenho and others, yes |
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gonzalo |
CanoeBerry, thanks |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry, thanks. would be a big help |
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sent Caryl two different blog posts for her newsletter and hear nothing back :P |
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gonzalo |
CanoeBerry, you are a good candidate to move this forward, you have contact with the diverse olpc ecosystem |
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claudia_ |
agree |
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gonzalo |
walterbender, i sent her a article too |
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by the way, the newsletter was a good idea, i think |
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walterbender |
well, we have a plan :) |
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moving on... |
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#topic RED |
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claudia_, wanna give an update? |
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claudia_ |
sure |
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Red is a academic publication (Spanish).. Walter and I worked on the special edition about computational thinking |
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We had several articles from the community |
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Guzman, Andres, Tony and Walter published one.. about sensors |
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John Burke (teachers we met through Gary Stager) published one on TBlocks and 3D printing.. |
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walterbender |
Josh Burker :) |
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claudia_ |
Walter and I one about visualizing learning with TBlicks |
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*TBlocks |
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walterbender |
lots of turtle :) |
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claudia_ |
(yes, walterbender, Thanks) |
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Jose MIguel submitted one, but I have not read the whole article |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> On educational robotics... |
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claudia_ |
I know couple of articles were also related to Scratch |
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Congrats, Jose MIguel |
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http://www.um.es/ead/red/46/ |
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walterbender |
good Sugar Labs community representation :) |
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thanks for making this possible claudia_ |
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I have one more topic tonight if people have time |
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#topic www.sl.o |
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samdroid, has been working on a new, simple site for us |
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I think it is getting close |
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ignacio |
I saw it, I liked it |
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walterbender |
would be good to get some feedback for him from SLOB members as well |
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ignacio |
it's more friendly than the current one |
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walterbender |
ignacio, I agree |
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not as Swiss |
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but friendly and inviting |
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ignacio |
yep |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> Where can see ? |
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walterbender |
samdroid, ^^ |
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claudia_ |
site? |
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walterbender |
I will look for the URL |
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http://www.sam.today/ |
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I promised some copy-editing |
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but you can get the general idea |
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ignacio |
walterbender, wasn't the new one to have a moving background? |
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I mean, the video |
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I need to go to school, good bye for now. |
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walterbender |
ignacio, ttyl |
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ignacio, will be in touch re GCI |
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needs to go too... |
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any other topics for today? |
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claudia_ |
me too |
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great to connect again |
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not from me |
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walterbender |
ok |
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5 |
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gonzalo |
4 |
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<Jose_Miguel-es> 3 |
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claudia_ |
2 |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry, 1 |
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CanoeBerry |
0 |
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walterbender |
#end-meeting |
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