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Meeting started Tue Aug 11 00:04:07 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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walterbender |
welcome everyone |
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gonzalo_ |
hello all! |
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walterbender |
Let's begin with the board election topic |
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#topic SLOB election |
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We came pretty close to coming up with a plan last meeting but didn't quite finish up the discussion |
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GrannieB, wanna summarize where you, icarito, and Samson are in your deliberations? |
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GrannieB |
Hi |
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We haven't communicated lately. I am working on the little "newsletter" |
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GrannieB |
Have drafts of 3 articles so far |
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would like one from Adam about servers… sorry I missed the meeting you had last week |
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aguirrea |
Hi!! Andrés Aguirre here |
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walterbender |
GrannieB, as I recall, we were pretty much in agreement with the recommendations of the committee |
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GrannieB |
Would also like one on Turtle Blocks workshops around the world from Walter and maybe one or 2 teachers involved… Caroline Meeks perhaps? |
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walterbender |
I think the only real issue is getting a good group of candidates assembled |
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any thoughts on how we will do that? |
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GrannieB, /me is happy to write up something about TB workshops |
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GrannieB |
Well, the purpose of the newsletter was to be twofold… 1) to encourage current Sugar Labs members to run and 2) to recruit more new members… perhaps even to run. |
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Thanks walter! With a nice photo or 2 too… is that possible? |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, GrannieB, maybe we need a article about SugarLabs, the board and inviting to participate |
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walterbender |
GrannieB, OK. I though it was more a general recruitment effort. I agree with gonzalo_ that we need a focused effort on recruitment for the board positions as well |
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GrannieB |
I had hoped to get it out to folks early this month, more likely midmonth because I have houseguests at the moment |
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gonzalo_ |
GrannieB, walterbender, who can write that article? |
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ClaudiaU_, CanoeBerry? |
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walterbender |
should not be me :P |
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GrannieB |
Maybe what we need to add to the newsletter mix is an article about the duties and rewards of being a SLOBS member… written by someone who isn't doing a different article |
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How about Claudia? |
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gonzalo_ |
ClaudiaU_ would be ideal if she can |
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GrannieB |
I hope Adam will do the school server article… Adam, where have you been lately? I have sent several emails? |
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Adam… you could give me a call… phone or Skyps (by arrangement) |
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walterbender |
since ClaudiaU_ is late to the meeting, we can assign the task to her in absentia and she cannot object :) |
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gonzalo_ |
we can ask, but not assign |
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GrannieB |
OOOOOH! I like that idea, Walter! |
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gonzalo_ |
bad people :) |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, of course :) |
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gonzalo_ |
but Claudia is here now :) |
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Claudia_ |
Hello |
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GrannieB |
ok. Let's ask and tell her we all think she would be wionderful |
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gonzalo_ |
just waiting for you Claudia_ :) |
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GrannieB |
Hey Claudia, we were just talking about you... |
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Claudia_ |
I was here but I could not Chat |
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GrannieB |
Did you see what we were talking about? and hoping you might do? |
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Claudia_ |
No,I did not |
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gonzalo_ |
<GrannieB> Well, the purpose of the newsletter was to be twofold… 1) to encourage current Sugar Labs members to run and 2) to recruit more new members… perhaps even to run. |
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Thanks walter! With a nice photo or 2 too… is that possible? |
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<gonzalo_> walterbender, GrannieB, maybe we need a article about SugarLabs, the board and inviting to participate |
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<walterbender> GrannieB, OK. I though it was more a general recruitment effort. I agree with gonzalo_ that we need a focused effort on recruitment for the board positions as well |
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<GrannieB> I had hoped to get it out to folks early this month, more likely midmonth because I have houseguests at the moment |
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<gonzalo_> GrannieB, walterbender, who can write that article? |
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ClaudiaU_, CanoeBerry? |
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<walterbender> should not be me :P |
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<GrannieB> Maybe what we need to add to the newsletter mix is an article about the duties and rewards of being a SLOBS member… written by someone who isn't doing a different article |
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How about Claudia? |
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<gonzalo_> ClaudiaU_ would be ideal if she can |
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<GrannieB> I hope Adam will do the school server article… |
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Claudia_ ^^^ |
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GrannieB |
OK. Could/would you be willing to write a short article about the joys, duties, and rewards of serving on the SLOBS board? |
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walterbender |
one plus to having Claudia_ write the call for participation is that she can reach both the Sur community and the North. |
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Claudia_ |
I may be able to do it, what is the expectation |
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walterbender |
something short, a few paragraphs, that will encourage people to participate in the SLOB election |
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run for a position and/or vote |
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GrannieB |
She could send it out by itself and we could include a shortened version (edited down) in the newsletter too. |
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Claudia_ |
I am almost convinced :) |
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walterbender |
hopefully both |
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gonzalo_ |
Claudia_, recruit peple to be members of SugarLabs (and vote) and if possible run for the slobs election |
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i think is important make clear sugarlabs is not only for programmers |
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Claudia_ |
Who should I coordinate with,? |
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meeting |
<Jose_Miguel-es> In accordance with Gonzalo... |
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gonzalo_ |
GrannieB is our editor :) |
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GrannieB |
I am debating about the format of the newsletter… I would like to have it actually look like a real newsletter… with pictures, headlines, etc. perhaps in PDF form That is what a lot of organizations are doing these days |
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Claudia_ |
Ok |
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GrannieB |
Hey Claudia… is that ok as in "OK yes, I'll write it? :) |
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walterbender |
GrannieB, that is fine. we have some decent designers out there who may be able to help once you gather the content. |
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CanoeBerry |
Hi, am catching up. |
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GrannieB |
I could just use "print shop" it is easy to do format and layout |
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walterbender |
just for review, last time we agreed, but did not vote on the following proposal: |
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1. Since there has been no election for some time, all current members' terms have run |
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their course. This means all seven (7) SLOBS board seats will be up for election or |
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re-election. |
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2. The top 7 vote getters would be elected with the top 4 serving 2 year terms and the next |
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3 serving one year terms. This will return the board elections to an annual schedule. |
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3. With the large number of candidates needed, sufficient time needs to be allowed for all |
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prospective candidates to declare their willingness to run. This process will take place in |
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the month of September. |
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4. The membership lists need to be updated and new members recruited from the many |
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active groups using Sugar around the world. Outreach to groups such as Unleash Kids |
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and OLPC France would be appropriate. This updating and recruiting should begin as |
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soon as mid-August and run through September. A short “newsletter”about the recent |
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accomplishments of Sugar Labs will need to be prepared by the board for use in this. |
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Claudia_ |
Yes, deadline? |
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walterbender |
This will need to be completed by SLOBS and supplied to the membership/elections |
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committee by the beginning of August. |
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5. In previous elections, one month was allowed for candidate statement drafting. Following |
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this precedent, statements will be due at the end of October |
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6. The online election will take place in mid-November and last for one week. Sebastian |
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will set up the web tool for this. |
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7. Election results will be announced at the close of voting. The new board will take office in |
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December or January with the top 4 polling candidates serving two (2) year terms (Jan |
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2016-Dec 2017), and the next 3 serving one (1) year terms (Jan - Dec 2016). |
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I'd like to make the above as a motion |
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that is what we discussed (and seemed to agree on last time) but never voted on. |
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@ CanoeBerry note that I left out item #8 which was the 3 year option |
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GrannieB |
only SLOBS get to vote, right? |
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walterbender |
GrannieB, yes... |
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and someone needs to second my motion |
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GrannieB, anyone can contribute to the ensuing discussion |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, two comments |
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Quozl` |
(for the record, i'm present as observer) |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, please |
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gonzalo_ |
1) as GrannieB will need more time to finish the newsletter, probably would be good move all 1 month |
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2) the only objection i have to the proposal is the fact that electing all the member we have two problems: |
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we need double number of candidates |
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GrannieB |
Well… the three articles I have already are in the editing stage. It won't take too long. If I get them soon from Claudia, Walter (and Caroline or ?) and Adam, I can finish it soon after my company leaves on Aug 17. |
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gonzalo_ |
and we lost the weak continuity that the slobs have |
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GrannieB, when would be a good date to distribute the newsletter? |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, +1 to pushing back one month |
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CanoeBerry |
delaying everything in he election proposal by 1 month is reasonable if everyone wants that |
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GrannieB |
Gonzalo is right. That is a bit of a problem |
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CanoeBerry |
*the election proposal |
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walterbender |
I will rewrite the motion to reflect that |
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GrannieB |
How about Sept 1? |
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walterbender |
but I think we should push ahead with the election of all of the seats. |
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gonzalo_ |
GrannieB, have sense for me if is good for you |
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walterbender |
if we cannot find at least seven candidates, we can just leave some seats unfilled |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, ok, we can vote :) |
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(about what to do) |
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GrannieB |
I think part of the work that needs to be done is communiques out to all the members in a timely fashion whenever we are ready. Samson and Sebastian could help with that. |
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We need to update the membership list and email addresses. Could be a big job |
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walterbender |
here is the revised motion with new dates: |
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Motion: |
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1. Since there has been no election for some time, all current members' terms have run their course. This means all seven (7) SLOBS board seats will be up for election or re-election. |
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2. The top 7 vote getters would be elected with the top 4 serving 2 year terms and the next 3 serving one year terms. This will return the board elections to an annual schedule. |
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3. With the large number of candidates needed, sufficient time needs to be allowed for all prospective candidates to declare their willingness to run. This process will take place in the month of October. |
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4. The membership lists need to be updated and new members recruited from the many active groups using Sugar around the world. Outreach to groups such as Unleash Kids and OLPC France would be appropriate. This updating and recruiting should begin as soon as mid-August and run through October. A short “newsletter”about the recent accomplishments of Sugar Labs will need to be prepared by the boar |
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d for use in this. This will need to be completed by SLOBS and supplied to the membership/elections committee by the beginning of October. |
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5. In previous elections, one month was allowed for candidate statement drafting. Following this precedent, statements will be due at the end of November |
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6. The online election will take place in mid-December and last for one week. Sebastian will set up the web tool for this. |
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7. Election results will be announced at the close of voting. The new board will take office on the first Monday in January with the top 4 polling candidates serving two (2) year terms (Jan 2016-Dec 2017), and the next 3 serving one (1) year terms (Jan - Dec 2016). |
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GrannieB |
sounds good to me |
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walterbender |
anyone willing to second the motion? |
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gonzalo_ |
I think we need decide if is a good idea elect all the board member or not |
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CanoeBerry |
Yes. Election committee to feel free to refine a bit, so they job is manageable, eg. candidates / voters may need deadlines reminders, in the past many voters needed more than a week b/c ballots were lost in email etc. |
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*Election committee should feel free to refine.. |
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Claudia__ |
We housing |
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CanoeBerry |
*so their job is manageable.. |
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Claudia__ |
Sorry, we should promote in more than one region |
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GrannieB |
Worldwide would be nice ; ) |
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Claudia__ |
Yes |
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gonzalo_ |
would be good have a Spanish and English version for the newsletter |
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walterbender |
the motion says world-wide |
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Claudia__ |
Agree |
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GrannieB |
French would be nice too... |
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walterbender |
we can add an Item 8 that gives latitude on the dates to the committee with the caveat that they let the SLOB know about the changes. |
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Quozl` |
walterbender: possible edit error, motion item 4, s/October/September for newsletter. |
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CanoeBerry |
good idea |
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Quozl` |
(method, emacs, diff) |
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walterbender |
Quozl`, I was given them more time if needed |
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CanoeBerry |
Motion is reasonable IMHO |
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Quozl` |
walterbender: okay, missed that, no worries. |
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walterbender |
other comments/discussion? |
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Quozl` |
(all dates were moved by one month into the future, except for the newsletter which was moved two months into the future). |
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GrannieB |
It is dangerous to give me more time… I would do much better with a Sept 1 deadline for the newsletter. Otherwise I will probably procrastinate and not get it done until October. |
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walterbender |
OK. I will move it back :) |
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walterbender |
anything else? |
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GrannieB |
If you build in the flexibility It can always be changed later… but hopefully we won't need to |
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CanoeBerry |
Should we formalize Walter's statement that a board can exist with less-than-7-members-if-nec? |
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Or deal with that late, if truly nec.. |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry, I think that would be a separate motion |
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CanoeBerry |
Or deal with that later, if truly nec.. |
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walterbender |
shall I paste the latest version of the motion? |
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MOTION: |
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1. Since there has been no election for some time, all current members' terms have run their course. This means all seven (7) SLOB seats will be up for election or re-election. |
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2. The top 7 vote getters would be elected with the top 4 serving 2 year terms and the next 3 serving one year terms. This will return the board elections to an annual schedule. |
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3. With the large number of candidates needed, sufficient time needs to be allowed for all prospective candidates to declare their willingness to run. This process will take place in the month of October. |
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4. The membership lists need to be updated and new members recruited from the many active groups using Sugar around the world. Outreach to groups such as Unleash Kids and OLPC France would be appropriate. This updating and recruiting should begin as soon as mid-August and run through October. A short “newsletter”about the recent accomplishments of Sugar Labs will need to be prepared by the boar |
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d for use in this. This will need to be completed by SLOBS and supplied to the membership/elections committee by the beginning of September. |
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5. In previous elections, one month was allowed for candidate statement drafting. Following this precedent, statements will be due at the end of November |
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6. The online election will take place in mid-December and last for one week. Sebastian will set up the web tool for this. |
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7. Election results will be announced at the close of voting. The new board will take office on the first Monday in January with the top 4 polling candidates serving two (2) year terms (Jan 2016-Dec 2017), and the next 3 serving one (1) year terms (Jan - Dec 2016). |
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8. If necessary, the election committee can modify these dates by one month, informing SLOB members. |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, please wait |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, sure... we can keep making changes |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, the topic of the number of candidates is key |
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in the last years we had less and less candidates |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, other than trying to recruit, not sure what else to do |
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and the motion includes an effort to recruit |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, my proposal is not change the seven members but 4 |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, not sure why that helps |
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if the other 3 are not willing to run, then they are probably not willing to serve |
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CanoeBerry |
agreed |
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gonzalo_ |
a real election need more candidates than chairs |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, a real election needs serious candidates |
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gonzalo_ |
if not, is a effort that do not have sense |
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walterbender, both |
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walterbender |
if there are fewer candidates than seats, then we have too many seats |
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GrannieB |
interesting thought |
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gonzalo_ |
sadly, that is a real posibility |
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walterbender |
I'd rather have a smaller board than a board of only partially interested members |
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gonzalo_, putting all the seats up will force the issue, which is probably a good thing |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, i do not agree, but will accept what the slobs decide |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, can you explain why you disagree? |
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GrannieB |
What if you started with 5 this time, 3 for 2 years and 2 for one year with the option of adding one or more seats in the next election cycle in one year? If not 2 then, maybe one more, then one more in the following year |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, i think that will be really difficult have more than 7 candidates in this election |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, if you are correct, which I don't doubt, why does that change things? |
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sdanielf |
we cannot know the number of candidates until they apply |
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CanoeBerry |
right |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, because if we need 4 seats, and have 5 candidates, we have a real election |
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walterbender |
I don't understand what you mean by a real election |
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gonzalo_ |
and we can continue wth the recruting effort the next year |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, we will be continuing in any case, because 3 of the seats are for 1 year |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, i think a real election is when the sl members have alternatives to elect |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_, sl will have the people willing to serve to elect |
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whether or not there are alternatives |
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gonzalo_, it is very common that elections go unopposed in the US |
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CanoeBerry |
one clear takaway: should there be only 5 candidates are energized to run + win, it seem 3 should prob get 3 year term and the 2 others get 1-year terms. |
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walterbender |
not idea, but a fact of life |
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ideal |
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gonzalo_ |
walterbender, may be you are too used to US democracy :) |
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Quozl` |
comment: an election is only needed if there are more candidates than positions, and i speak from australian perspective. |
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gonzalo_ |
Quozl`, maybe is only at the South :) |
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sdanielf |
gonzalo_: better that than ellecting equal or less candidates than seats |
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walterbender |
“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.” ― Winston S. Churchill |
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Claudia__ |
True |
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GrannieB |
will we have a candidates debate? ;-D |
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Quozl` |
comment: you should not restrict the number of positions merely to create the impression of legitimacy through election. |
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walterbender |
I guess I don't understand... say we have 7 great candidates: you suggest we enforce a smaller number of seats for the sake of some principal of competition? |
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icarito |
imho slobs is micromanaging - you already delegated these issues to us |
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walterbender |
icarito, +1 |
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GrannieB |
+1 |
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let's see what we come up with! |
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CanoeBerry |
that's why i & walter suggested #8, so the election committee can be practical, as running elections ain't easy |
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Quozl` |
comment: slobs already agreed to a motion in last meting but didn't make it formal. i think you are obliged to make it formal as it was agreed then, and change it as required. ;-) |
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walterbender |
Quozl`, no formal motion was made |
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now it has been |
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Claudia__ |
+1 |
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walterbender |
but not seconded yet |
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double-checks the log |
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Quozl` |
(i'm really surprised it hasn't been seconded.) |
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icarito |
i think the relevant election was when you agreed to delegate elections to the committee - don't see a need to motion on our status report |
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GrannieB |
the date changes are what you will be voting on… right? |
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gonzalo_ |
if you want we can make a motion to vote about the date change, that i think we all agree |
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walterbender |
icarito, there I disagree. this is a significant departure from the current status quo. I feel more comfortable empowering the committee with a vote from SLOB |
| 01:09 |
CanoeBerry |
agree with walter: the election committee should (and always has) had a lot of leeway, but has always consulted closely with SLOBS as to what's practical/reasonable to pulling off an election efficiently |
| 01:11 |
icarito |
it feels silly to have a delegation only to further vote on details of the delegates job - while a detailed report of the plan of action was submitted |
| 01:11 |
walterbender |
icarito, regardless... we have a motion on the table |
| 01:12 |
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is someone willing to second it? |
| 01:12 |
gonzalo_ |
walterbender, what is the motion we have now? |
| 01:13 |
walterbender |
gonzalo_, I will paste it in one more time :) |
| 01:13 |
gonzalo_ |
thanks |
| 01:13 |
walterbender |
MOTION: |
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1. Since there has been no election for some time, all current members' terms have run their course. This means all seven (7) SLOB seats will be up for election or re-election. |
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2. The top 7 vote getters would be elected with the top 4 serving 2 year terms and the next 3 serving one year terms. This will return the board elections to an annual schedule. |
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3. With the large number of candidates needed, sufficient time needs to be allowed for all prospective candidates to declare their willingness to run. This process will take place in the month of October. |
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4. The membership lists need to be updated and new members recruited from the many active groups using Sugar around the world. Outreach to groups such as Unleash Kids and OLPC France would be appropriate. This updating and recruiting should begin as soon as mid-August and run through October. A short “newsletter”about the recent accomplishments of Sugar Labs will need to be prepared by the boar |
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d for use in this. This will need to be completed by SLOBS and supplied to the membership/elections committee by the beginning of September. |
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5. In previous elections, one month was allowed for candidate statement drafting. Following this precedent, statements will be due at the end of November |
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6. The online election will take place in mid-December and last for one week. Sebastian will set up the web tool for this. |
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7. Election results will be announced at the close of voting. The new board will take office on the first Monday in January with the top 4 polling candidates serving two (2) year terms (Jan 2016-Dec 2017), and the next 3 serving one (1) year terms (Jan - Dec 2016). |
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8. If necessary, the election committee can modify these dates by one month, informing SLOB members. |
| 01:13 |
CanoeBerry |
Good enough. |
| 01:14 |
walterbender |
CanoeBerry, good enough to second? |
| 01:14 |
CanoeBerry |
Yes |
| 01:14 |
walterbender |
waits :) |
| 01:16 |
Claudia__ |
Good with me |
| 01:16 |
walterbender |
I am going to take that as a second to my motion |
| 01:17 |
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any further discussion before we vote? |
| 01:17 |
sdanielf |
for me it's ok |
| 01:17 |
walterbender |
OK... let's bring it to a vote |
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+1 |
| 01:17 |
CanoeBerry |
+1 |
| 01:17 |
gonzalo_ |
-1 |
| 01:17 |
meeting |
<Jose_Miguel-es> +1 |
| 01:18 |
Claudia__ |
+1 |
| 01:18 |
walterbender |
sdanielf, ??? |
| 01:19 |
sdanielf |
+1 |
| 01:19 |
walterbender |
OK. The motion passes 5 in favor, 1 opposed, 1 absent |
| 01:19 |
CanoeBerry |
other business, it's getting late? |
| 01:19 |
walterbender |
CanoeBerry, yes... one if you have time please |
| 01:19 |
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#topic SFC |
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I'd like to find someone else to be the liaison to the SFC |
| 01:20 |
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I am at the end of my patience which is not good for either SL or the SFC |
| 01:20 |
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would be better if someone else took over that role |
| 01:21 |
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any volunteers? |
| 01:21 |
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it has to be a SLOB member |
| 01:21 |
gonzalo_ |
CanoeBerry ? |
| 01:22 |
walterbender |
is willing to bring whomever volunteers up to speed |
| 01:22 |
CanoeBerry |
walterbender: can u clarify/summarize the job? |
| 01:22 |
walterbender |
CanoeBerry, not too much too it... they want one point of contact to discuss any issues that may arise. |
| 01:23 |
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I am just personally frustrated by the discussions and don't feel I can best represent SL at this time |
| 01:23 |
CanoeBerry |
Over email primarily I presume? |
| 01:23 |
walterbender |
yes |
| 01:23 |
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and occasionally IRC |
| 01:23 |
Quozl` |
https://sfconservancy.org/ intro text relevant. |
| 01:24 |
walterbender |
more often than not, the discussion is about $ |
| 01:25 |
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FWIW |
| 01:25 |
CanoeBerry |
I wouldn't want to do a bad job, but if it's not a daily thing, and Walter can help me (or whoever) get up to speed? |
| 01:25 |
walterbender |
CanoeBerry, only a few interactions per month |
| 01:26 |
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mostly paper-pushing |
| 01:27 |
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CanoeBerry, I can bring you up to speed over the next few days and then let the SFC know. |
| 01:28 |
CanoeBerry |
OK. Anyway let's not drag this out, if I can volunteer over the coming months to hopefully debureaucratize this a bit, and hopefully this doesn't drive anu of us crazy. |
| 01:28 |
Claudia__ |
I have to go |
| 01:28 |
walterbender |
thx |
| 01:28 |
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we should wrap up. |
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thanks all for coming |
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6 |
| 01:29 |
CanoeBerry |
5 |
| 01:29 |
gonzalo_ |
4 |
| 01:29 |
Claudia__ |
It has been a while |
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For |
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e |
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3 |
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meeting |
<Jose_Miguel-es> 3 |
| 01:29 |
walterbender |
sdanielf, ^^ |
| 01:30 |
sdanielf |
2 |
| 01:30 |
walterbender |
:) |
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#end-meeting |
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