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meeting |
Meeting started Fri May 1 14:04:27 2015 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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tch__ |
Hello everyone ! :) |
| 14:04 |
walterbender |
#topic student/mentor pairings |
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I want to make sure that there are at least two mentors per student so that we have some backup in case a mentor is unavailable |
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| 14:05 |
walterbender |
I think the "primary" mentor is generally clear to everyone? |
| 14:05 |
richashi |
yes |
| 14:05 |
k_yash |
yeah |
| 14:05 |
mohayon |
Yes |
| 14:05 |
ishan28mkip |
Yeah |
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| 14:05 |
artista |
yeah |
| 14:06 |
walterbender |
but, for example, I am hoping that tch will take a strong role in the collaboration project |
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and that llaske will also chime in |
| 14:06 |
tch__ |
walterbender, llaske of course ;) |
| 14:06 |
llaske |
yes would love to participate on collaboration project |
| 14:06 |
walterbender |
and I am happy to be the test case (turtle) |
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great |
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so we have that one covered :) |
| 14:07 |
k_yash |
My mentors are Devin and Marnen :D |
| 14:07 |
tch__ |
walterbender, +1 |
| 14:07 |
walterbender |
k_yash, yes |
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and they are very excited |
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I'll be around to help with any coding issues that come up |
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but they are both very strong on all other aspects of the project |
| 14:07 |
abhinav |
walterbender: hey |
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Sorry for being late |
| 14:08 |
walterbender |
they regret that they cannot attend today's meeting |
| 14:08 |
k_yash |
I'm excited too.. |
| 14:08 |
walterbender |
abhinav, please look at the backlog as it is relevant to you |
| 14:08 |
richashi |
My mentor is Tony Anderson |
| 14:08 |
walterbender |
richashi, yes |
| 14:08 |
k_yash |
walter nothing to worry about right |
| 14:09 |
walterbender |
Tony is not on IRC too often, but he is generally responsive by email |
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maybe CC sugar-devel when you can to keep the community informed |
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richashi, I think there are several more mentors (not here this morning) who are interested in your project |
| 14:09 |
richashi |
yes, that’s right. most of our discussion took place through mails only :)\ |
| 14:09 |
walterbender |
german from NI for one |
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richashi, it is important that there be a good record of your discussions |
| 14:10 |
abhinav |
walterbender: I went through the backlog |
| 14:10 |
walterbender |
history suggests it is key to a successful project |
| 14:10 |
abhinav |
And it seems clear from my side |
| 14:11 |
richashi |
okay. I will make sure that the community stays informed |
| 14:11 |
walterbender |
thx |
| 14:11 |
richashi |
:) |
| 14:11 |
k_yash |
and me too |
| 14:12 |
walterbender |
mohayon, lots of interest in your project as well and plenty of people prepared to help above and beyond llaske |
| 14:12 |
mohayon |
Great ! Very glad to hear that :) |
| 14:12 |
walterbender |
mohayon, I hope next week when I am in NI to get some direct feedbck about priorities from a major Sugar deployment |
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maybe it will help inform your work |
| 14:13 |
ishan28mkip |
Walter : tony is my other mentor right? |
| 14:13 |
llaske |
What is NI ? |
| 14:13 |
walterbender |
Nicaragua |
| 14:13 |
richashi |
So, German would be the second mentor? |
| 14:13 |
walterbender |
ishan28mkip, I am hoping Tony Forster will help out |
| 14:13 |
artista |
walterbender, My primary mentor is you I guess but I'm not sure about my other mentor/s. |
| 14:14 |
walterbender |
richashi, german or perhaps one of the JS developers he recruited as mentors... I'll let you know |
| 14:14 |
richashi |
okay! thanks :) |
| 14:14 |
walterbender |
artista, I am going to pressure Gonzalo to help |
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he is very busy this summer, but I know he is also very interested in the project |
| 14:14 |
abhinav |
llaske: Can I have your mail Id? |
| 14:15 |
walterbender |
so we can at least count on strategic feedback from him |
| 14:15 |
llaske |
abhinav: it's lionelolpc-france.org |
| 14:15 |
artista |
that would be great |
| 14:15 |
ishan28mkip |
I should start being in touch with tony also then. |
| 14:15 |
abhinav |
llaske: Thnx :) |
| 14:15 |
walterbender |
ishan28mkip, Yes... I'll contact him too... he had not signed up as a mentor, but I know he is interested |
| 14:16 |
k_yash |
walterbender on technical side...only you'll mentor me right? |
| 14:16 |
walterbender |
it is just a matter of time |
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k_yash, Marnen is very strong technically |
| 14:16 |
k_yash |
oh :) |
| 14:17 |
walterbender |
did we cover everyone? |
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OK. |
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#topic communication |
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I propose the following: |
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(1) everyone hang out in IRC as much as possible: #sugar |
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(2) everyone join the sugar-devel list |
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(3) everyone set up a blog and join the Sugar planet |
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if we do that, we should be good |
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I know last year we had some issues with the planet |
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hopefully tch and I can sort them out this summer |
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Also, please be sure to communicate directly with your mentor at least a few times per week |
| 14:19 |
richashi |
the blog has to be made on the Sugar wiki or elsewhere? |
| 14:19 |
native93 |
walterbender, better if we provide the contact details of POC with Sugar planet |
| 14:20 |
walterbender |
richashi, It can be anywhere |
| 14:20 |
richashi |
okay |
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walterbender |
there are instructions as to how to join the planet |
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looks for those instructions |
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http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ndication_request |
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any volunteers to be planet master :) |
| 14:22 |
abhinav |
walterbender: I can give it a try |
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If students can also be in the admin part :P |
| 14:22 |
walterbender |
abhinav, please contact bernie |
| 14:22 |
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abhinav, students are first class members of the community |
| 14:23 |
abhinav |
walterbender: Very true. Can I get the email Id of bernie? |
| 14:23 |
walterbender |
bernie AT codewiz DOT org |
| 14:24 |
abhinav |
thnx |
| 14:24 |
walterbender |
I have only one other topic on my list |
| 14:24 |
richashi |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Bernie |
| 14:24 |
walterbender |
#topic meeting times |
| 14:24 |
ishan28mkip |
Walter how can we communicate, should we continue mail thread or switch to irc? |
| 14:24 |
walterbender |
I would like to have a weekly meeting of all of the students to review progress |
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Mentors are encouraged to join, but it is required of students |
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would this time work as a regular time? |
| 14:25 |
abhinav |
fine with me |
| 14:25 |
ishan28mkip |
This time would be fine |
| 14:25 |
mohayon |
It's great |
| 14:25 |
llaske |
sounds good for me |
| 14:25 |
artista |
Can it be one hr later? |
| 14:26 |
walterbender |
does that work for you guys in Europe and India? |
| 14:26 |
richashi |
Yeah. Can it be 1-2 hours later? |
| 14:26 |
walterbender |
fine for me |
| 14:26 |
abhinav |
yeah, anytime around this time will be good |
| 14:26 |
llaske |
1h yes, 2h is not ideal |
| 14:26 |
ishan28mkip |
1 hour later would do. |
| 14:27 |
mohayon |
Same as llaske, 1h would do it |
| 14:27 |
walterbender |
OK. Let agree to 11 in Boston and Asuncion |
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15:00 in Paris |
| 14:27 |
tch__ |
walterbender, works for me ;) |
| 14:27 |
llaske |
No, 17h in Paris |
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mohayon |
17:00 |
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walterbender |
20:30 in Delhi |
| 14:27 |
richashi |
So, that’s 8 am in California |
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k_yash |
ok fine with me :) |
| 14:28 |
abhinav |
Sounds Cool |
| 14:28 |
walterbender |
sorry... 17 in Paris |
| 14:28 |
ishan28mkip |
Yup 8:30 pm in delhi. :) |
| 14:28 |
k_yash |
mumbai 8:30 right |
| 14:28 |
walterbender |
OK. done |
| 14:28 |
llaske |
Waow 4 timezone to manage :-) |
| 14:28 |
abhinav |
llaske: Thats the beauty :) |
| 14:28 |
walterbender |
I will be traveling back from NI next Friday, but feel free to touch base |
| 14:29 |
richashi |
okay, sure |
| 14:29 |
mohayon |
okay ! |
| 14:29 |
walterbender |
we will start in earnest the following week |
| 14:29 |
llaske |
guess students are not suppose to code for the moment |
| 14:30 |
richashi |
;) |
| 14:30 |
walterbender |
llaske, they can start any time but we cannot require them to start yet |
| 14:30 |
llaske |
so we need to use this period to think about what should be done |
| 14:30 |
abhinav |
atleast, me and yash cannot. We have got our semester exam for the next 10-15 days |
| 14:30 |
ishan28mkip |
Me too. |
| 14:30 |
abhinav |
*ishan |
| 14:31 |
walterbender |
ouch |
| 14:31 |
llaske |
okay don't have understood this difference |
| 14:31 |
walterbender |
good luck with that |
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llaske, I think that the official Google schedule says coding starts on the 25 May |
| 14:32 |
llaske |
it's what I've got in mind |
| 14:33 |
k_yash |
yeah timeline says 25th may |
| 14:33 |
walterbender |
are there any other things people would like to discuss today? |
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abhinav |
walterbender: One thing we can do in this phase of 15 days that we can be clear with the technologies we will be using |
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llaske |
in the meantime let's try to work more on architecture and features |
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walterbender |
#topic other topics? |
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abhinav, yes |
| 14:33 |
llaske |
+1 |
| 14:33 |
mohayon |
I agree with that |
| 14:33 |
walterbender |
we should be discussing the details over the next two weeks |
| 14:33 |
ishan28mkip |
We can also be clear about version control and browser support |
| 14:34 |
walterbender |
ishan28mkip, good point |
| 14:34 |
llaske |
all browsers :-) |
| 14:34 |
walterbender |
re version control, we have migrated to github |
| 14:34 |
abhinav |
true that |
| 14:34 |
walterbender |
so please use github |
| 14:34 |
ishan28mkip |
Alright. |
| 14:34 |
walterbender |
unless you have a strong case why you need to use some other version control system |
| 14:34 |
richashi |
for code review, what’s the procedure |
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| 14:35 |
walterbender |
richashi, that is up to you and your mentor |
| 14:35 |
k_yash |
okay...I use github only :P |
| 14:35 |
richashi |
okay! |
| 14:35 |
ishan28mkip |
llaske all browsers? Does that include ie 6/7? |
| 14:35 |
walterbender |
although if your project gets pushed upstream to Sugar Labs, there is a procedure laid out on developer.sugarlabs.org |
| 14:36 |
llaske |
No :-) |
| 14:36 |
mohayon |
I guess all modern browsers :) |
| 14:36 |
walterbender |
we don't do no stinking IE |
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neither does MS any more :) |
| 14:36 |
ishan28mkip |
Haha :) |
| 14:36 |
abhinav |
walterbender: Thnx :) |
| 14:36 |
richashi |
:P |
| 14:36 |
ishan28mkip |
Thats a relief. |
| 14:36 |
walterbender |
llaske, would be great if you could run a seminar on multi-browser support for all of us |
| 14:37 |
devin |
I am on now. Sorry to be late. I am reading the history. Hi Yash! |
| 14:37 |
k_yash |
Hello Devin :) |
| 14:37 |
walterbender |
and might be good to come to some consensus on libraries too |
| 14:37 |
llaske |
Yes, why not I've wrote an e-mail on sugar-devel regarding that. I will repost it. |
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walterbender |
llaske, thx |
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ishan28mkip |
That would be great |
| 14:38 |
walterbender |
anything else for today? |
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llaske |
Regarding libraries. require.js is the only pre-requisite today |
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in Sugar Web |
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I think it's good to don't add more pre-requisite and let each activity decide other framework it need |
| 14:40 |
richashi |
I agree |
| 14:40 |
walterbender |
llaske, I was think more along the lines of recommendations |
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for example, I have gone down several rat holes regarding media support -- things that work in Chrome but not Android |
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would be good to save everyone else the same pain |
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(and humiliation) |
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llaske |
HTML5 media |
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? |
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walterbender |
camera, music, microphone, text to speech, etc |
| 14:42 |
llaske |
Okay mohayon will look on that too for Record activity |
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I suggest that he give us a sum up on that |
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First TODO action for you mohayon :-) |
| 14:43 |
walterbender |
Maybe we can ask each project to sum up in a couple of weeks |
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for example, we have three.js for Turtle 3D |
| 14:44 |
mohayon |
Yep, I started looking for that kind of libs and got a list, I can post something about this |
| 14:44 |
walterbender |
it looks solid and well supported |
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but I haven't tested it on Android |
| 14:44 |
mohayon |
Maybe a wiki page with some comparative features |
| 14:44 |
walterbender |
mohayon, +1 |
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we had a lot of discussion on sugar-devel when we first started the JS support |
| 14:44 |
llaske |
Warning too: iOS support is not always good due to Safari |
| 14:45 |
walterbender |
but that is stale |
| 14:45 |
llaske |
+1 for wiki page |
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so everyone could add its experience inside |
| 14:46 |
ishan28mkip |
+1 |
| 14:47 |
walterbender |
anything else for today? |
| 14:47 |
artista |
we would be having weekly meeting the same day i.e friday? |
| 14:48 |
walterbender |
artista, yes |
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but I will not be here next week... unless the airplane has WiFi |
| 14:49 |
artista |
ok :) |
| 14:49 |
richashi |
have a safe flight :) |
| 14:50 |
walterbender |
thx |
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ok... |
| 14:50 |
devin |
Walter, is MusicBlocks always going to be contained in the TurtleArt UI? Is that the plan? |
| 14:50 |
walterbender |
I think we can wrap up for today |
| 14:50 |
devin |
...or a separate program? |
| 14:50 |
walterbender |
devin, a separate program |
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devin, I was just using Turtle to sketch the ideas |
| 14:51 |
devin |
Okay, but we start from what we have... I see. |
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That is what I envision as well. Glad I checked! |
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| 14:51 |
walterbender |
looking forward to a fun and productive summer |
| 14:51 |
artista |
+1 |
| 14:52 |
tch__ |
:) |
| 14:52 |
ishan28mkip |
+1 |
| 14:52 |
llaske |
Sure |
| 14:52 |
richashi |
:) me too!! |
| 14:52 |
devin |
Thanks! |
| 14:52 |
abhinav |
Same here. Excited :) |
| 14:52 |
walterbender |
#end-meeting |
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meeting |
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