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Meeting started Wed Mar 5 14:02:14 2014 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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<irma-es> *Ok! Hello Irma Silva and tod s those that still did not greet! |
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walterbender |
gp94: good point |
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<Claudia__-es> hello *irmasilva! |
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<Claudia__-es> Hello Gonzalo |
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<irmasilva-es> Good day Walter!!! |
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walterbender |
hi everyone... nice to see you back on line |
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<Claudia__-es> Good morning, *mariaelena!! |
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<mariaelena-es> Hello!!! Good morning From The *Rioja |
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<irma-es> Hello *maria *elena, good morning!! |
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<Claudia__-es> Very fulfilled from The *Rioja... irma, irmasilva and mariaelena |
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<irmasilva-es> Hello *Couretot!!! |
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<mariaelena-es> *OK |
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<irma-es> I greeted you before *Irmisssss |
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gp94 |
there are pr's been there since last dec/nov...the activities repo on gitorious need new maintainers...it would be great if regular contributors take the role of maintainers... |
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walterbender |
gp94: +1 |
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<Aura-es> Hello To all! |
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<irma-es> Hello Aura!! Good morning! |
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walterbender |
gp94: maybe discuss on the devel mailing list? |
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<Claudia__-es> Good morning, Aura |
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<Aura-es> Irma, Hello! |
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<icarito-es> hello Claudia__ |
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<icarito-es> hello iguana |
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<irmasilva-es> Hello Aura!!! |
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<Aura-es> That like to go back to read us!! |
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<Claudia__-es> Like this it is Aura! |
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walterbender |
we have some attendees from SE Asia today too |
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manuq |
gp94, walterbender anyone is welcome to do reviews on PRs |
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<irma-es> Like this it is Aura |
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<Claudia__-es> iguana: where these? |
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<mariaelena-es> We are the followers of Claudia and Walter... |
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<irma-es> Who are *Iguana? |
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manuq |
the big problem we have now is that all assume that only dnarvaez and me are able to comment or review |
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<iguana-es> *claudia Am in Urbana, Illinois |
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walterbender |
manuq: it is a matter of getting activity maintainers to be responsive |
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<iguana-es> My name is Fabian Prieto. In Colombia was voluntary does some years with *SugarLabs |
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<iguana-es> Now I find me studying communication in the University of Illinois |
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<Aura-es> Walter, installed the activity, but says me that the version of *sugar needs an update |
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<irma-es> *ja.*jjja.*jja. They are man!! |
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<Claudia__-es> That well, *iguana! Welcome |
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gp94 |
walterbender, ok I will drop in a mail in devel list..today... |
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<iguana-es> Me *entere by *facebook that went to have a *reunion and *queria know but of as it goes the project |
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<Claudia__-es> well.. No if we go to have time to know to all in this meeting, but little by little go us to know |
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gp94 |
manuq, well the activvities have different maintainers who don't usually respond quickly, for example the mainline of the browse activity has around 10 pr's left to be reviewwd... |
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<mariaelena-es> Walter, could not install the activity... It says me error when initiating |
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<Claudia__-es> It gladdens us go back to have this space, once a month, to converse of different subjects |
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manuq |
gp94, I don't get well with gitorius, please send them by email or paste me a direct link |
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<iguana-es> And clear collaborate in what it can |
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gp94 |
I will also try to contribute in reviewing after I get a grip on gtk...:) |
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manuq, thanks :) |
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<icarito-es> iguana, taste to greet you, success with this study by there |
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<Claudia__-es> If.. Aura, *mariaelena! The Activity goes to ask an up to date version of *Sugar.. We go to ask to Walter that it speak us of this |
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walterbender |
mariaelena: right now, the activity requires the newest version of Sugar to run |
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<irma-es> *ok, I neither could install it |
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<Aura-es> If I have the *version of *sugar 0.98 |
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<iguana-es> icarito thank you! A greeting! |
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walterbender |
maybe I can try to make it work with older versions |
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<mariaelena-es> Here in The *Rioja have 0.96 |
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walterbender |
but it needs "webservices" which is part of Sugar 1.00 |
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I would love to encourage everyone to explore Sugar 1.00 |
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many many improvements... mostly to stability |
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but some new features as well |
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<Claudia__-es> In accordance with Walter!! |
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<Mary_-es> Hello To all |
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<Claudia__-es> hello Mary! |
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<irma-es> Hello Mary! |
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walterbender |
please contact gonzalo or me for help with testing the new Sugar |
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<mariaelena-es> Where download the new version? |
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<Mary_-es> They excuse the *demora but are with problem of *conexion |
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<Aura-es> Walter the problem of the new versions of *sugar is that they are not compatible with a lot of activities |
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walterbender |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Testing |
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aura-es would be helpful to know what activities break |
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usually it is a trivial issue we can fix |
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<Claudia__-es> Aura: you can mention any? |
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walterbender |
for example, deprecated fields in activity.info |
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<Aura-es> In this moment are in the version 0.98 and are thinking in giving back us to the 0.94 because there are more activities to use |
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<Aura-es> Example all the *JAMEDIA |
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<Claudia__-es> The recommendation is that before moving to a new version of *Sugar do proofs, like this do not fail the Activities in the course |
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<Aura-es> Of Flavio |
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walterbender |
aura-es a list of broken activities would really be helpful to us |
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<Aura-es> I go to realise a listing of activities |
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walterbender |
thx |
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walterbender |
aura-es maybe we can review next week in .CO |
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<Claudia__-es> Good morning Nelssy |
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<Aura-es> If, We are expecting you with anxieties!! |
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walterbender |
was anyone able to try the LearnSugar acitivity? |
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<Claudia__-es> It seems me that anybody has been able to test the new Activity of *Sugar (Learning *Sugar)... |
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<icarito-es> Link? |
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<Nelssy-es> Hello Good *dias, are in Meadow in this moment in the School *Ateneo where have one of our Pilot Projects |
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walterbender |
icarito: http://people.sugarlabs.org/wa[…]earnSugar-1.59.xo |
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<icarito-es> walterbender, *thx |
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<Mary_-es> I could not test Claudia |
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walterbender |
icarito: it is still "beta" |
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icarito: and it requires Sugar 100+ |
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<Claudia__-es> thank you, Nelssy |
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<irma-es> Good morning *Nelssy! |
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walterbender |
Claudia__: maybe we can discuss the goals as opposed to the implementation? |
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since no one has seen the implementation :P |
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<Claudia__-es> We go to take advantage of this space then to greet and to explain them a bit of the new Activity, although they have not tested it still |
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<Claudia__-es> It seems me very *walter! |
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tkkang_ |
Hello all from HK! |
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<Claudia__-es> Also it would be well that when they greet us, you explain us where are, like this go us knowing... |
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<Claudia__-es> For now we have to irma, irmasilva and mariaelena from the *Rioja |
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<Claudia__-es> Mary_ from Paraguay |
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<irma-es> hello Mary! |
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<Nelssy-es> Meadow is in Colombia |
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<Claudia__-es> Nelssy from Colombia, a small pilot program |
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walterbender |
Claudia__: could you give a quick review of our overall goals as a group? |
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<Claudia__-es> iguana: a Colombian volunteer, that now this in USES |
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<Mary_-es> hello Irma |
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<Aura-es> Aura, Colombia |
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<Claudia__-es> Claro Walter... |
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<Aura-es> Hello Alejo, welcome!, of Foundation Marina *Orth, Medellín, Colombia |
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<irma-es> Hello Alejo! |
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<Claudia__-es> Well... From it does some months put us from *SugarLabs put it to open again a space of communication and of community... No only with Educators, also with technical people and volunteers... |
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<kaametza-es> hello To all! Greetings from *SomosAzucar |
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<Claudia__-es> The community but big this in this region, like this is that we begin by this meeting... |
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<icarito-es> hello *aqui Sebastian and Laura (*kaametza) of the team *SomosAzúcar. *Ahorita Are in Colombia |
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<irma-es> It wanted to know the people and his professions |
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<Mary_-es> We could invite to *Tincho then Claudia |
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<Claudia__-es> But we expect that they have others in other regions of the world also.. If, clear |
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<Claudia__-es> Mary_: this space is opened to the one who want to go in... *Tincho This by *ahi, in the channel of Groins where translates east |
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<Claudia__-es> The idea is to gather us once a month... That it seems them? |
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<Mary_-es> I share |
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walterbender |
to add to claudia's words... getting educators and developers talking about ideas is very important to the project |
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<irma-es> Of agreement |
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<kaametza-es> +1 |
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<mariaelena-es> Of agreement!!! |
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<Aura-es> If, and it seems me key that gather us educators with technicians |
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<Claudia__-es> And can agree different subjects with all, according to the interests and needs!! |
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<Aura-es> Maybe it can be the first *miercoles of each month |
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<Claudia__-es> Like this it is, *walter! |
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<mariaelena-es> It seems me well |
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<irmasilva-es> It seems us very well!!! |
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<Claudia__-es> Aura: that is the idea... The following meeting would be the 2 of Abril |
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ignacio|here |
walterbender, sorry for no appear in the meeting.. :( |
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<irma-es> *Comparato Walter and Aura |
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<Lisalia-es> I agree |
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<mariaelena-es> Well... |
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<ignacio|here-es> icarito, *woah.. A lot of people :) |
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ignacio|here is now known as Ignacio |
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<Lisalia-es> It is the first time that participate and want to know more in this regard |
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<kaametza-es> hello Ignacio :D |
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walterbender |
Ignacio: take care... your teacher may be here :) |
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<Aura-es> Hello Lisalia, of Colombia also, *Urabá! |
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<Ignacio-es> Hello To all :) |
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<Claudia__-es> Like this it is that when they receive the invitation, can send it to other people!!! |
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walterbender |
Ignacio is a student in .UY |
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<irma-es> Hello Ignacio |
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walterbender |
and a Sugar developer |
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<Claudia__-es> Hello Ignacio! (They know the one who is Ignacio?) |
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<irmasilva-es> Welcome |
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<Lisalia-es> Hello Aura, reporting me from the Zone of *Urabá-Colombia |
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<irma-es> *siiiii!!!! |
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<Ignacio-es> *Jaja, :) |
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<Lisalia-es> No |
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Ignacio |
walterbender, woah a lot of fresh contributors in #sugar-meeting-es :) |
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<irma-es> *Salis Very well in *google + Ignacio |
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<mariaelena-es> As you know, already in The *Rioja are *recambiando the *XO by a *laptop that manufactures here. But the software keeps on being *Sugar. |
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<Ignacio-es> irma, *jaja :) |
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tkkang_ |
I am a volunteer at OLPC Asia based in Hong Kong |
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<Mary_-es> Me *gustaria know *ma this Maria *elena |
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<Claudia__-es> mariaelena: you can put you in contact with Gonzalo to be to the day with the subject of *Sugar!! |
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<irma-es> :) Ignacio, my fellow and *twitter |
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walterbender |
mariaelena-es: the hardware is Classmate? |
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<Mary_-es> That type of scheme? |
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<Aura-es> Ignacio!! |
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<Ignacio-es> Aura, Hello! |
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<mariaelena-es> And ... That but I can say. They are decisions of the logistical and technical part... No of the pedagogical area |
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walterbender |
it is important we know of any issues with the hardware so we can address them |
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<mariaelena-es> *ok |
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<Claudia__-es> If, Ignacio it is our developer crashes of *Sugar, Uruguayan, and winner of the competition of Google... We are proud!! |
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<Lisalia-es> Congratulations Ignacio |
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<Mary_-es> If all are proud |
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<Aura-es> Ignacio: The Friday initiate classes of the *semillero with the boys, are happy! |
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<Ignacio-es> Claudia__, I am not a star. I am only a simple developer! There is *ma?*s Like me :) |
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<irma-es> Thank you Walter by your support with *Sugar |
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<Ignacio-es> Aura, *wow *genial! ?We want to go to Colombia! *Jaja |
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<mariaelena-es> If we go to need help and not losing the contact with you. We want them!!! |
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<Aura-es> We go to do that *suceda... I am managing it |
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<Mary_-es> *maria *elena |
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<irma-es> *Sipi, but few *profes of your age Ignacio *je..*je... :) |
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<Ignacio-es> Aura! *Wii :) |
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<Claudia__-es> well.. As they can see, the idea is that this space was for all... |
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<Mary_-es> That *harward *estan using |
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<Jhonny-es> Really we have a strong interest to centre us in the development of competitions from Spanish, mathematical and natural sciences |
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<Claudia__-es> Now, we decide to begin these talks with the Activity of Learning *Sugar, that Walter has been developing for Australia |
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walterbender |
jhonny-es +1 |
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<Mary_-es> If Claudia think that the *participacion shows the need of these in *cuentros |
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<irmasilva-es> It interests me the subject in physics!!! |
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<mariaelena-es> A *laptop mark *bangho sum that assembles here in The *Rioja. This is all know it. Has similar characteristic that the *magallanes of Uruguay |
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walterbender |
mariaelena-es gracias |
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Ignacio |
walterbender, 1.6ghz, 8gb ssd, 384mb of integrated video |
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All intel :) |
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<Lisalia-es> Ignacio can do me the favour to explain in what *conisten the classes of the *semillero with the boys? |
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<Claudia__-es> Jhonny: it is very important to have clear aims. The past year treat to create groups of interest between the community to support the work.. Can explain you that Nicaragua has done a very strong work in *Lecto Writing |
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<Claudia__-es> And that also there is a professor in *UY that has created a very good book of learning of Physics with the *XO... With *Tortugarte |
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<irma-es> What well! |
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<Ignacio-es> Lisalia, *ultimamente in the community of Laboratories *Azucar *Sebasti?@N and Laura (*icarito and *kaametza) come *dise?I walk a plan for *OLPC Colombia |
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<mariaelena-es> If it is Trinidad Guzmán. Also I saw it in the project *Butiá |
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<Ignacio-es> The idea is *ense?*ar To program creating games and all these things that go back it *m?*s Fun. |
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walterbender |
https://sites.google.com/site/[…]nidad_%20v1-0.pdf |
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<Claudia__-es> Like this it is *mariaelena! Maybe we can invite it the next month so that it explain us of his work... |
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<kaametza-es> :D |
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<mariaelena-es> *ok |
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<Claudia__-es> thank you, *walter. This is the link of the work of Trinidad, that invite them to all to explore |
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walterbender |
maybe people can email to Claudia topics of interest? /me is interested in early reading |
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<Lisalia-es> Ignacio, but the plan already are it implementing? |
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<Ignacio-es> Lisalia, the plan begins this to?Or (in some *d?Ace no? *kaametza?) |
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<Jhonny-es> mariaelena: *ping |
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<Ignacio-es> *Kaametza And *Icarito can explain you better :) |
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<Jhonny-es> María Elena want to know a bit but of the project my post is *jsanchezasocaña.org |
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walterbender |
is translating Guzman's book to English |
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<irma-es> It gives me error this link, *claudia |
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<Lisalia-es> Thank you very much Ignacio |
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<icarito-es> Ignacio, it refers to the *semillero of boys programmers that mentioned Aura |
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<Lisalia-es> It appears me error in the link |
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<kaametza-es> Like this it is Ignacio. The Friday initiate 12 sessions with 30 boys of the municipality of *Chía |
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<icarito-es> Will be treating to retort the success of *Python Young Uruguay |
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<icarito-es> With the support of Flavio and Ignacio |
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<mariaelena-es> *ok. Jhonny I will write you |
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<Jhonny-es> The link this broken |
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<Ignacio-es> icarito, *cuentale to Lisalia :) |
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Claudia__ |
https://1f799c4b-a-62cb3a1a-s-[…]Pf43wj9rssy_U46eh |
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<Lisalia-es> It follows the message of error |
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<Ignacio-es> Claudia, hits the link in *ur1.*c |
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<Ignacio-es> ur1.ca |
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<Lisalia-es> *Icarito |
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<irma-es> It follows with error, *claudia |
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<icarito-es> We would have to have published the proposal, but in brief words treats of a workshop of development of video games oriented to obtain some attainments and learnings |
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<Jhonny-es> Thank you María Elena |
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<Claudia__-es> http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/artic[…]man-trinidad.aspx |
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<Claudia__-es> *aqui This the link of *Ceibal... |
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walterbender |
https://sites.google.com/site/[…]ttredirects=0&d=1 works too |
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<icarito-es> The idea is that the boys learn to create works (games) related with *nutricion, *dinamica familiar, etc |
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<Ignacio-es> give me 1 second |
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<Ignacio-es> Already I go up it.. |
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<kaametza-es> Lisalia, and in addition to creating them, that learn to publish them and *socializarlas with the community |
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<Lisalia-es> They are initiating a pilot with the boys of *Chía? |
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<irma-es> The link gives error, Walter |
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<Claudia__-es> This *semillero develops in the *conexto of a project that leads Aura in Colombia... And it develops with an agency of the government that has as it put to support to the familiar that are under the line of extreme poverty.. |
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<Lisalia-es> How can retort this strategy with boys of other *ciudadades? |
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<Claudia__-es> With these families have defined some attainments, in Nutrition, Participation and familiar Dynamics... The bet here is that the boys are agents of change in his families... Therefore the *semillero |
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<mariaelena-es> Jhonny it is not well your direction of post. It indicates me error |
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<Ignacio-es> To see |
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<Claudia__-es> I think that it is another project that is worthwhile *socializar.. Aura, can send them but information |
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<Ignacio-es> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ignacio/fi%*cc%81*sica%20with%20*XO%20_*Guzma%*cc%81n%20Trinidad_%20*v1-0.Pdf that if it serves |
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<Ignacio-es> meeting, *pingall Link: http://people.sugarlabs.org/ignacio/fi%*cc%81*sica%20with%20*XO%20_*Guzma%*cc%81n%20Trinidad_%20*v1-0.Pdf |
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<irma-es> It is important the project of Aura, Claudia, something of this were seeing |
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<icarito-es> Lisalia, like product of the workshop will be renewing/expanding the guides of *Python Young done by *flavio wait go and look for you the original versions |
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<Lisalia-es> thank you very much, *Icarito |
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walterbender |
we have much to learn from Flavio |
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<Claudia__-es> Well.. We explain them a bit on the Activity of Learning *Sugar? |
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walterbender |
Claudia__: sure |
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<Claudia__-es> You want to begin Walter |
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walterbender |
#topic Learn Sugar |
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The original goal is quite modest |
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<Aura-es> If |
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walterbender |
in Australia, they require the teachers to do training before they get Sugar for their classrooms |
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<Jhonny-es> María Elena give me your post. |
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but the course was on Moodle and very difficult to use |
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<Claudia__-es> Ignacio: thank you! |
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<mariaelena-es> Alchemy002yahoo.com.ar |
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<Ignacio-es> Claudia__, *np. Hour to read to Walter :) |
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walterbender |
so I wrote a Sugar activity to teach Sugar basics in an imersive way |
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the activity introduces Sugar features such as the Home View, the toolbars, connecting to the network, the Journal, etc |
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and some basic activities: Write, Speak, Turtle Art,... |
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different from a manual or help system because it is interactive |
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it walks the teachers through a narrative about Sugar |
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the content is almost all html, so it is easy to change |
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the idea is to have more Learn Sugar activities that touch on more themes |
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focusing on how to use Sugar for learning |
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but the first one is mostly about mechanical issues |
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<icarito-es> Lisalia, I'm sorry I did not find the link "oficial" *ahorita but the guides are *aqui: http://people.sugarlabs.org/ig[…]/archivos/python/ |
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walterbender |
In Australia, the teachers can use this for part of their professional development, so there is a mechanism for logging progress... |
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we could make regional versions if there was interest |
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but it will be difficult to make it work on old versions of Sugar :( |
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<mariaelena-es> Walter need knowledges of previous programming? |
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walterbender |
mariaelena-es: no |
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<Claudia__-es> mariaelena: no! |
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walterbender |
not to use the activity |
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to write new versions for new topics, yes |
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some |
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<transformando-es> Aura: *ping |
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walterbender |
mostly for the checks |
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let me explain |
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we ask the teachers to accomplish certain tasks: draw a square with Turtle Art |
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<Lisalia-es> *Icarito, thank you |
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walterbender |
so I had to write code (Python) to check to see if they completed that task |
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this is for the "certification" process in Australia |
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the activity could work with the checks as well |
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<Claudia__-es> The Activity this directed initially to professors, and those that want to know basic subjects of *Sugar, but the idea is that it can extend to things but sophisticated |
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walterbender |
the checks are what require the new version of Sugar |
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maybe I could make a version with no checks that runs on any Sugar |
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I will think about it |
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but more, I am interested in what you think of the idea and where we should take it next |
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<Claudia__-es> The Activity has several *modulos... In each module there are texts and a *video.... And it asks to the user that realise some tasks... And the same Activity can verify *automaticamente that do the in shape correct tasks |
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walterbender |
but without "tasting" it is hard to give feedback :P |
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<Lisalia-es> As far as you explain me, this activity is *genial, in what it favours the interactiveness |
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the basic set up is a series of sections or chapters |
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each chapter has pages which explain or ask the user to do some task |
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<Claudia__-es> Lisalia: this Activity *resume the basic knowledge of *Sugar... And it does it in shape interactive... And it offers a *feedback *inmendiato |
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walterbender |
once you do the task, then you are invited to go to the next page |
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<Claudia__-es> But as it says us Walter.. The last version of *Sugar needs for this immediate feedback... |
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walterbender |
you can also jump from chapter to chapter |
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and it can report the progress to a server |
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and it has a mechanism for sending feedback and asking for help |
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I am working to make is easier to do translation |
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Claudia__ has translated the activity itself into Spanish |
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but not all of the chapters or pages |
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<irmasilva-es> What well Claudia!!! |
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<Claudia__-es> I translated the basic controls and the first module... By that we want to know if it interests them... |
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<irma-es> Thank you Claudia and Walter |
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<Claudia__-es> And as it could use in the different programs... |
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tkkang_: we could make versions in Chinese and Malay |
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<mariaelena-es> *siii. It interests us! |
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Possible... Chinese wll be double byte, Malay like English translation |
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<Claudia__-es> Walter.. Maybe we can do a *video with a demonstration, but is important that all do proofs! |
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walterbender |
Claudia__: good idea |
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tkkang: it would be great to have it in many languages |
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tkkang |
Yes... |
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tkkang: it uses unicode so double byte is not a problem |
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<irma-es> I see complicated to have the last version of *Sugar in the *Bangho |
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<Claudia__-es> irma: by that you do not speak it with Gonzalo... If they go to do new installations, would be well have the version but updated of *Sugar.. |
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irma-es: yes... we need to address that issue. who makes the system images for the Bangho? |
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<irma-es> *ok Claudia |
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<Ignacio-es> irma, that system bring the *bangho? |
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<irma-es> Fedora and *Sugar |
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<mariaelena-es> They bring *linux-*fedora |
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walterbender |
irma-es maybe you can connect us with the technical team |
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<Ignacio-es> Then I do not think that it was complicated to have a *version of *Sugar up to date |
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<irma-es> It would have to converse it with our coordinator, Walter |
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walterbender |
really, we only need to add one feature: webservices |
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<gonzalo_odiard_-es> irma, mariaelena, no *deberia be complicated, am to *disposicion to see that they need |
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<icarito-es> We could test our *Sugar 0.94 with Network Sugar on *Wayra *GNU/Linux, walked well |
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<irma-es> *ok Ignacio |
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<Claudia__-es> For subjects of logistics... Sure we go to have a list of invitation to this talk.. Like this we can distribute things easily... |
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<Claudia__-es> We go to do a *video of demonstration of the Activity Learning *Sugar.. And we happen them to him. I am safe that go to want to use it |
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wonders if he could make it install webservices on the fly? probably difficult |
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<irma-es> *ok Claudia, seems me well the *video |
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<Lisalia-es> It seems me very timely the of the video, thank you Claudia |
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<icarito-es> I say *Huayra *GNU/Linux, the *debian done for Argentinian |
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Claudia__: maybe we can make it together next week |
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<Claudia__-es> If, Walter. This *pense! |
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<Claudia__-es> It wanted a pair of minutes to ask on subjects for the next month.... |
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Claudia__: OK |
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#topic topics for future meetings |
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<Claudia__-es> And I remember them.. They do not have to expect a month for *ingresar to this space. Always this opened and a lot of people are here to converse |
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<mariaelena-es> *icarito. If that is in the *net of the national Program "Conectar Igualdad" |
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<mariaelena-es> *ok. Claudia |
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<icarito-es> It would be logical that use the same, is a lot work to do an operating system of zeros... |
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<Claudia__-es> Subjects???? |
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walterbender |
literacy |
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I have some ideas I'd like feedback on |
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<mariaelena-es> If it is truth *icarito. It is necessary to migrate to *linux for all |
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<irma-es> The work that comes developing Aura |
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<Claudia__-es> Thank you Walter. In Nicaragua there is a work that present |
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<Claudia__-es> thank you, *irma! We go to invite to Aura to present on the work of *Transformadonos |
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walterbender |
maybe they (.NI) can bring us up to date and then we can discuss new ideas? |
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<Aura-es> Gladly |
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<kaametza-es> The Network Sugar, is a subject that can be interesting explore in this space |
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<Claudia__-es> If, Walter. It seems me that this list a report of the impact, realised by *USAID |
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<Aura-es> To my seems me important speak about the improvements of the versions of *sugar |
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<Aura-es> Find the most stable version |
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<Claudia__-es> Aura: perfect! The version but stable achieves if we test and report errors of the Activities |
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<Claudia__-es> The local programs are using the Activities, and the developers need to know that it fails. Therefore it is important to do proofs before an update... |
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<gonzalo_odiard_-es> Claudia__, we can prepare a report about that there is again in *sugar |
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<Claudia__-es> It seems me that it is a meeting *prioritaria! |
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<Claudia__-es> *gonzalo.. Welcome!!!! |
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<irma-es> Of agreement, *gonzalo |
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<irmasilva-es> Hello Gonzalo!!! |
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<gonzalo_odiard_-es> hello, I was reading all, *aqui am for what can help |
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<Claudia__-es> It seems them if we do the meeting on *Sugar the next month? Gonzalo prepares a report with time to be able to have a good talk |
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<mariaelena-es> Perfect! |
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<irma-es> Of agreement |
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<irmasilva-es> If of agreement |
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<Lisalia-es> Perfecto |
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<kaametza-es> :D |
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<Claudia__-es> It does a pair of years did something like this... And we created a page where reported the errors. It was an useful for the developers, and of course for the programs!! |
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<Claudia__-es> well.. Gonzalo, these *agendado!! Abril 2!! |
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ok :) |
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<Claudia__-es> Will be sending information with time. And also on as inscribe to a list of distribution.. Like this *mejorarmos channels of communication... |
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<Claudia__-es> well.. I think that we go to finish here this meeting of today! |
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<iguana-es> thank you Claudia... I expect to follow assisting |
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<Claudia__-es> thank you very much To all for arriving this day!! |
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<irma-es> Thank you Claudia, an embrace and follow advancing in community |
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<iguana-es> An embrace icarito |
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<mariaelena-es> Very well *reencontrarnos... |
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thank you for organizing the meeting |
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<Claudia__-es> Very important the community!!! |
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<irmasilva-es> Thanks to You that invited us!!! |
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<irma-es> An embrace for tods!!! |
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<Lisalia-es> Claudia, as I am the pedagogical adviser of the project *Laptop in some Institutions of *Urabá-Colombia, would like me know more on what comes doing Nicaragua in the subject of *Lecto-writing, because it is one of the components that more affects the population *estudiantil of this zone, and with the educational have been working pedagogical projects that aim to said thematic |
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<mariaelena-es> An embrace to all! |
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<Claudia__-es> Embraces and happy week!!! |
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<kaametza-es> Thanks to all! And we remain to the order in all (@) somosazucar.org |
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<iguana-es> *lisalia To where can *escribirite? |
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<mariaelena-es> Thank you Claudia. Kisses |
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<Claudia__-es> Lisalia: you want to send me email and put you in contact with them, before having a talk on the subject? |
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<irma-es> *Chau!! |
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<Claudia__-es> callaurreagmail.com |
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<Claudia__-es> mariaelena: kisses! |
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<mariaelena-es> Jhonny *enviame a post to contact you |
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<irmasilva-es> Until prompt an embrace from The *Rioja, Argentina!!!! |
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<Claudia__-es> thank you irmasilva |
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<Lisalia-es> cpe.lisaliasantodomingogmail.com |
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<Lisalia-es> Thanks to all |
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