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| 13:04 |
meeting |
Meeting started Wed Mar 5 13:04:07 2014 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
| 13:04 |
manuq |
walterbender, thanks |
| 13:05 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
maybe we should start with the older issues? |
| 13:05 |
walterbender |
why don't we start with something (notifications?) while I make the list |
| 13:05 |
manuq |
I think notifications is preety much done, design wise |
| 13:05 |
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tch__, great work |
| 13:06 |
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if someone wants to review a short patch in the mean time: |
| 13:06 |
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https://github.com/sugarlabs/s[…]r-artwork/pull/29 |
| 13:06 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
tch__, can i propose something else for notifications? |
| 13:06 |
walterbender |
#topic notifications |
| 13:07 |
tch__ |
manuq: thanks, the idea is to add different notifications types progressively, based on the same building blocks |
| 13:07 |
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gonzalo_odiard_: sure |
| 13:07 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
manuq, i can test it in the xo after the meeting |
| 13:07 |
walterbender |
manuq: the old list was http://fpaste.org/82545/02478313/ |
| 13:07 |
manuq |
gonzalo_odiard_, thanks!! |
| 13:07 |
walterbender |
we have a new new items to add |
| 13:07 |
manuq |
tch__, I see, so we expect that samdroid will be able to extend it for activities |
| 13:08 |
tch__ |
manuq: yes |
| 13:08 |
manuq |
great |
| 13:08 |
tch__ |
manuq: and journal |
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| 13:08 |
manuq |
walterbender, I think I gave review to all of those.. have my notes here |
| 13:09 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
tch__, would be good, when the user click in the notification menu item, open a dialog in the home with the title and text, like we do when the user can't open one activity |
| 13:09 |
manuq |
a shame some work has been discontinued |
| 13:09 |
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(from walterbender list) |
| 13:10 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
tch__, in that way, we solve the issue of longer than palette texts |
| 13:10 |
manuq |
gonzalo_odiard_, hmm |
| 13:10 |
walterbender |
manuq: I think we only went through about half of these as a group. |
| 13:10 |
manuq |
gonzalo_odiard_, that would be more complex, I think |
| 13:10 |
tch__ |
gonzalo_odiard_: I think the problem of having long text is unavoidable, at some point we must put some limits.. |
| 13:10 |
manuq |
tch__, +1 |
| 13:11 |
walterbender |
the other approach though, would be to line-wrap the long text |
| 13:11 |
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it would mess up the vertical spacing, but I think better than the current solution |
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the line wrap used in the add description to the palette code works well |
| 13:12 |
manuq |
walterbender, yes, that would be definetely better, we don't want to loose text |
| 13:12 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
i haven't tested the line wrap in the palette |
| 13:12 |
walterbender |
gonzalo_odiard_: it works well |
| 13:13 |
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I've reviewed it but it would be good for one more set of eyes |
| 13:13 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
anyway, what i am proposing can be added later if needed |
| 13:13 |
walterbender |
+1... let's land the first phase |
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| 13:14 |
manuq |
walterbender, ok, let's go through that list? |
| 13:14 |
tch__ |
walterbender: I will take a look and see how it works, we should be able to solve the vertical space somehow |
| 13:14 |
walterbender |
tch__: I will point you are example code after the meeting |
| 13:14 |
tch__ |
walterbender: thanks! |
| 13:15 |
walterbender |
are we done with notifications? |
| 13:15 |
manuq |
tch__, yes, maybe wrap to three lines, then ellipsize? |
| 13:15 |
walterbender |
so we agreed: to land new notification code and add wrap to three lines, then ellipsize? |
| 13:15 |
manuq |
agreed |
| 13:16 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
+1 |
| 13:16 |
tch__ |
manuq: alright, |
| 13:16 |
walterbender |
#agreed to land new notification code and add wrap to three lines, then ellipsize |
| 13:16 |
manuq |
wait, someone needs to review code first :) |
| 13:16 |
walterbender |
shall we do Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette next? |
| 13:16 |
manuq |
I just reviewed design |
| 13:16 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
manuq, i can review the code |
| 13:16 |
tch__ |
I guess I can't review myself haha.... which is good.. |
| 13:16 |
walterbender |
manuq: yes... the code review can happen when we have the PR |
| 13:16 |
manuq |
gonzalo_odiard_, great |
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walterbender, excellent |
| 13:17 |
walterbender |
#topic Enhancement: Add description in Journal Palette |
| 13:17 |
manuq |
let's continue with palette description, yes |
| 13:17 |
walterbender |
I think we had agreed to this |
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it is much better shape |
| 13:17 |
manuq |
yes, much better, I have to try the new PR |
| 13:17 |
walterbender |
I think it just needs a final code review |
| 13:17 |
manuq |
but the screenshot look great |
| 13:17 |
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walterbender, +1 |
| 13:17 |
walterbender |
so we can agree to land it? |
| 13:17 |
manuq |
yes |
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gonzalo_odiard_, tch__ ? |
| 13:18 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
walterbender, lets define design review status, landing need code review in all cases |
| 13:18 |
tch__ |
checking! |
| 13:18 |
walterbender |
gonzalo_odiard_: +1 |
| 13:19 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
maybe we can get volunteers for do the code review here too ;) |
| 13:19 |
walterbender |
but on this one we agree re design review? |
| 13:19 |
manuq |
I can code review this one |
| 13:20 |
walterbender |
de we agree design on Add description in Journal Palette is approved ? |
| 13:20 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
i can't find the pr |
| 13:20 |
manuq |
same here, was it closed or merged by accident? |
| 13:20 |
walterbender |
looks... |
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but let's close the design discussion??? |
| 13:21 |
manuq |
walterbender, +1, approved |
| 13:21 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
ok |
| 13:22 |
walterbender |
#agreed design on Add description in Journal Palette is approved |
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next, shall we discuss ignacio|here 's color-encoded device icons? |
| 13:22 |
manuq |
sure |
| 13:23 |
walterbender |
#topic Color-coded devices |
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loves them |
| 13:23 |
tch__ |
I think is great, design wise not too much secret, but I can review the code |
| 13:23 |
manuq |
yeah, we agreed on design in the previous meeting |
| 13:23 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
have sense |
| 13:24 |
walterbender |
OK... |
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| 13:24 |
walterbender |
#agreed color coded devices design approved |
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anything else on the old list? |
| 13:25 |
manuq |
gonzalo_odiard_, found it https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/259 |
| 13:25 |
walterbender |
mic volume? |
| 13:25 |
manuq |
walterbender, for mic I said: |
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- no new buttons, we have limited space in the tray |
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- should be in the same palette |
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- based on the mic found in Measure |
| 13:26 |
walterbender |
same palette as speaker? |
| 13:26 |
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I will work with emil to finish this up |
| 13:27 |
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#agreed to move mic volume to same palette as speaker |
| 13:28 |
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on to some newer topics? |
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ignacio|here: do we have any loose ends? |
| 13:28 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
manuq, then no icon for mic, only a slider? |
| 13:29 |
walterbender |
we can add icons to the palette |
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we'll have to play around with some sketches |
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walterbender |
oh no.. we lost our fearless leader |
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gonzalo_odiard_ |
:/ |
| 13:30 |
tch__ |
we wait. |
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manuq |
sorry, this irc... |
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still here? |
| 13:31 |
tch__ |
yup |
| 13:32 |
manuq |
topic? |
| 13:32 |
walterbender |
maybe we do journal toolbar? |
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gonzalo_odiard_ |
walterbender, ^ |
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no more older issues? |
| 13:33 |
walterbender |
ignacio|here: can you review the list of old topics while we discuss this new one? |
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meanwhile... let's keep going |
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#topic journal toolbar -- replace combo boxes |
| 13:35 |
manuq |
walterbender, did you found any blocker? |
| 13:36 |
walterbender |
manuq: I had to put a work-around in the ellipsis code for the toolbar button -- I think it is a gtk bug. |
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but otherwise it seems to work well |
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manuq |
walterbender, great |
| 13:36 |
walterbender |
the set_important idea was a winner |
| 13:37 |
manuq |
walterbender, excellent |
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today I did a few comments on the artwork patch |
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looking good |
| 13:37 |
walterbender |
wished it worked in other situations |
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manuq: I looked at the view-created icon and don't understand how it works (svg) |
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it seems to use a mask |
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manuq |
walterbender, ok, I'll amend and push |
| 13:39 |
walterbender |
great... |
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manuq |
svg editing is a pain |
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I think the original creator of view-created (gary) used adobe tools |
| 13:39 |
walterbender |
manuq: not if you use emacs |
| 13:40 |
manuq |
walterbender, I like to do graphics with a visual tool :) |
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walterbender |
anyway, we agree to the overall design? we can move on? |
| 13:41 |
manuq |
but in general the output of inkscape and other applications is odd |
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walterbender, agreed |
| 13:42 |
walterbender |
#agreed to the design of the journal toolbar combo box replacement; needs code review and manuq to improve icons |
| 13:42 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
Develop activity now show a preview of the icon :) |
| 13:42 |
walterbender |
and you can design icons in Turtle Art :) |
| 13:42 |
manuq |
:) |
| 13:43 |
walterbender |
#topic combo box on language panel |
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manuq: gave me some feedback |
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but do people agree with the general idea? |
| 13:44 |
manuq |
looking great too, lots of new stuff! |
| 13:44 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
walterbender, yes, but need more work |
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tch__ |
walterbender: agreed, will make it easier for touch scenario |
| 13:44 |
walterbender |
gonzalo_odiard_: I agree... not ready for approval |
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gonzalo_odiard_ |
tch__, not only touch |
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walterbender |
but I want the green light to pursue it... |
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if people don't like the idea, I can work on other things |
| 13:45 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
i think is in the right direction |
| 13:45 |
walterbender |
OK |
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next topic? |
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gonzalo_odiard_ |
backup/restore? |
| 13:45 |
walterbender |
#topic backup/restore |
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what is still to discuss here? |
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walterbender |
hi Claudia__ |
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Claudia__ |
Hi walterbender |
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gonzalo_odiard_ |
the second pr address all the points spotted by manuq |
| 13:46 |
manuq |
has a topic for later |
| 13:46 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
i wonder if someone could test it |
| 13:46 |
manuq |
gonzalo_odiard_, great, i have to try it |
| 13:46 |
tch__ |
gonzalo_odiard_: i will |
| 13:46 |
walterbender |
I can test it too |
| 13:46 |
manuq |
me too |
| 13:46 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
thanks |
| 13:47 |
walterbender |
but I think it generally passes muster |
| 13:47 |
manuq |
can't tell without looking |
| 13:47 |
walterbender |
is concerned that ignacio|here is quiet |
| 13:47 |
manuq |
walterbender, the boy is a star now :) |
| 13:48 |
tkkang |
greetings.. |
| 13:48 |
manuq |
hi tkkang |
| 13:48 |
walterbender |
manuq: he had a bunch of design reviews pending I thought... didn't want him to be overlooked |
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tkkang: good evening |
| 13:48 |
tkkang |
Yes.. nice to see you al online.. |
| 13:48 |
tch__ |
hello Claudia__ and tkkang |
| 13:49 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
looking at the old list "View Source paths Emil Dudev [2]" landed? |
| 13:49 |
walterbender |
manuq: what are the next topics? |
| 13:49 |
manuq |
walterbender, I'm doing my best with reviews.. but I need your help |
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| 13:49 |
tkkang |
Excuse my typing :-) pretty bad typer |
| 13:49 |
manuq |
I can't handle all the load |
| 13:49 |
walterbender |
manuq: once we get design sign-off we can broaden the code reviewer but not many can do design reviews |
| 13:50 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
i hope we can help more now, just busy with bugs in AU image |
| 13:50 |
walterbender |
tkkang: maybe you can find us more designers to help? |
| 13:50 |
Claudia__ |
hello tch__ |
| 13:50 |
manuq |
walterbender, you don't need to be a designer to test and give a brief comment |
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anyone can do that |
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tkkang |
You mean to test the AU image ? |
| 13:51 |
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<Claudia__-es> Good morning *irma! |
| 13:51 |
walterbender |
manuq: yes... but it is intimidating for most, I think |
| 13:51 |
tkkang |
In fact I am loading a AU image on a SD card now |
| 13:51 |
manuq |
walterbender, I have a topic for later |
| 13:51 |
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<irma-es> Hello Claudia!! How you are? |
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<Claudia__-es> Well!! A taste see you by here. |
| 13:52 |
walterbender |
manuq: now is later... |
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I think we ran out of other topics |
| 13:52 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
manuq, we have 8 minutes to the learning meeting |
| 13:52 |
walterbender |
oh... one more... |
| 13:52 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
manuq, please go |
| 13:52 |
manuq |
ok, I've been trying webservices past week |
| 13:52 |
walterbender |
the screen capture button? |
| 13:53 |
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<irma-es> I did not go to the office Claudia, because we do not have internet still |
| 13:53 |
manuq |
I have the feeling that webservices in control panel is not finished |
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I see icons without labels |
| 13:53 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
is a little ugly, is true |
| 13:53 |
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<Claudia__-es> As it gladdens me that you can this here. And they go to put Internet in the office? |
| 13:53 |
manuq |
gonzalo_odiard_, yes, like it has overpassed design |
| 13:54 |
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gonzalo_odiard_, not just ugly, but.. how do you choose the webservice if there is no label? |
| 13:54 |
walterbender |
manuq: I will work on it... can you make some sketches? |
| 13:54 |
manuq |
walterbender, sure, glad to do them for you |
| 13:54 |
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<irma-es> Yes, it is indispensable; we have us *mudado. We are in an office of two flats, small |
| 13:54 |
manuq |
takes note |
| 13:54 |
walterbender |
admits he didn't put much effort there |
| 13:54 |
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<Claudia__-es> irma: and that so big is the group now? |
| 13:55 |
walterbender |
#agreed rework the cpsection for webservices |
| 13:55 |
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<Claudia__-es> You know if Maria Elena *recobio the email? |
| 13:55 |
walterbender |
#agree rework the cpsection for webservices |
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manuq: anything else? |
| 13:55 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
walterbender, tch__, manuq, can we agree in focus in finish the topics pending for 0.102? |
| 13:55 |
manuq |
walterbender, not from my side, thanks! |
| 13:55 |
walterbender |
gonzalo_odiard_: which topics are open? |
| 13:56 |
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<irma-es> No if María Elena the *recibio, Claudia, the group keeps on being numerous; the *jvg primary |
| 13:56 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
walterbender, all we have been talking today, the unreviewed pr |
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walterbender, i am thinking in not add other things |
| 13:56 |
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<Claudia__-es> irma: I command the email to Maria Elena... No if the email that have is his, but this included |
| 13:56 |
walterbender |
gonzalo_odiard_: this is the design meeting... |
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the code review is separate |
| 13:57 |
tch__ |
gonzalo_odiard_: +1 on focusing what we have so far, |
| 13:57 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
walterbender, yes, but we don't have a developers meeting |
| 13:57 |
walterbender |
gonzalo_odiard_: let's have one then |
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now that we have certainty from design, we can focus on code reviews |
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but we had a big design bottleneck from GCI |
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<Claudia__-es> Good morning... icarito, *iguana! |
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<irma-es> *Ok; We expect it that it avenges; also Irma Silva... |
| 13:58 |
walterbender |
I feel good that we have cleared it up |
| 13:58 |
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<iguana-es> hello Claudia |
| 13:58 |
walterbender |
manuq: shall we wrap up then? |
| 13:59 |
manuq |
walterbender, yes, thanks to all |
| 13:59 |
gonzalo_odiard_ |
just on time :) |
| 13:59 |
walterbender |
thanks everyone |
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#end-meeting |
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Meeting ended Wed Mar 5 13:59:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4) |
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manuq |
continues with the prs |
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