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23:15 |
meeting |
Meeting started Mon Feb 25 23:15:58 2013 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
23:15 |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
23:16 |
walterbender |
for the offical record, thx to alsroot (and bernie) for getting the new git server running |
23:16 |
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huge performance improvement |
23:16 |
ClaudiaU |
+1 |
23:17 |
walterbender |
#topic sugar advisors |
23:17 |
GeraldA_ |
+1 |
23:17 |
walterbender |
this is something that has come up in the past... |
23:18 |
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it is usual to have advsors |
23:18 |
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but also, it is useful to be able to have an official role when trying to promote Sugar |
23:18 |
ClaudiaU |
yes |
23:19 |
walterbender |
(I am thinking, for example, of Harriet in India, where having a title would help her in opening doors and being taken more seriously) |
23:21 |
sdanielf |
walterbender: +1 |
23:21 |
ClaudiaU |
any concrete ideas? |
23:21 |
walterbender |
it is also a way to recognize contributors |
23:21 |
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well, two |
23:21 |
ClaudiaU |
do you mean you want to give people, through a title, some recognition for what they do? |
23:22 |
walterbender |
one, to decide to do it (or not) |
23:22 |
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and two: to come up with names |
23:22 |
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I have a few ideas |
23:22 |
ClaudiaU |
not only a title, but recognize what is already happening and encouraging others? |
23:22 |
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I like it |
23:22 |
walterbender |
yes |
23:22 |
GeraldA_ |
I like it, too. |
23:23 |
ClaudiaU |
i like it a lot, actually |
23:24 |
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i.e. Rosamel... would be another candidate? |
23:24 |
walterbender |
yes |
23:24 |
ClaudiaU |
Sugar educator? |
23:25 |
JT4sugar |
Good idea-When thnking of names first analyze the audience you hope for them to influence then create name options that would resonate with the auidience |
23:25 |
walterbender |
maybe we can come up with a short list of titles, but maybe just leave it as Sugar advisor |
23:27 |
ClaudiaU |
I like to differenciate.. |
23:27 |
GeraldA_ |
I think the more specific titles, like "Sugar Educator" have some oomph |
23:27 |
ClaudiaU |
+1 |
23:28 |
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educator, friend, adviser |
23:28 |
walterbender |
no more than 3 types |
23:28 |
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but I like those 3 |
23:29 |
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and then we need a process... nominations from anyone in the community and a slob vote? |
23:30 |
sdanielf |
I don't know how is it managed in other projects |
23:30 |
ClaudiaU |
Yes |
23:30 |
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nominamte candidates and then vote |
23:30 |
walterbender |
sdanielf: I don't think it is done in many other FOSS projects |
23:30 |
ClaudiaU |
no? |
23:31 |
sdanielf |
walterbender: other projects have community-representative people, like the Mozilla Reps |
23:31 |
walterbender |
sdanielf: that is true... and I am a GNOME advisor |
23:32 |
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I think that there are two classes: |
23:33 |
ClaudiaU |
educator and adviser |
23:33 |
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advisor |
23:33 |
walterbender |
representatives of major constituencies (the GNOME model) |
23:33 |
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and people whom we lean on for help and advice |
23:33 |
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I guess a third model would be more geared towards fundraising |
23:34 |
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but I am thinking at the moment the "lean on for help and advice" category |
23:34 |
ClaudiaU |
those I thought would be like friends |
23:34 |
JT4sugar |
You may want to think of multiple roles under each, possibly thinking about a badge type system that rewards your personal specialty, you could use firends category as fundraising path |
23:34 |
ClaudiaU |
if you donate or help raise funds... |
23:34 |
JT4sugar |
friends |
23:36 |
ClaudiaU |
short and explicit definitions would help.. I don't like the word reward, but recognition for something you be doing already.. and encouragement to other to do it |
23:36 |
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you are doing already (sorry) |
23:37 |
JT4sugar |
probably wrong word choice-identifies your area of specialization |
23:37 |
walterbender |
let's make some suggestions via email over the next week? |
23:38 |
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one question of logistics: do we ask people before we recommend them? I think we probably should. |
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but maybe before we ask, we feel the temperature of the water? |
23:38 |
GeraldA_ |
I imagine this process: someone is nominated; we ask them; they agree; slobs vote. |
23:38 |
ClaudiaU |
JT4sugar: I am sure... I am making a suggestion for a more appropriate word in the context of learning.. nothing more |
23:39 |
walterbender |
GeraldA_: +1 |
23:39 |
ClaudiaU |
walterbender: probably |
23:39 |
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GeraldA_: +1 |
23:39 |
walterbender |
anything else on this topic today? |
23:39 |
ClaudiaU |
not really.. |
23:40 |
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we have not been able to discuss TA in the chat |
23:40 |
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but I am thinking we should approach people directly |
23:40 |
walterbender |
then lets' make a #action to think up some candidates |
23:40 |
ClaudiaU |
for example.. Nic, Py, CR... |
23:40 |
walterbender |
ClaudiaU: sure. |
23:41 |
ClaudiaU |
they are all candidates to promote and to host TA international day, but most of them are starting new schools.. super budy |
23:41 |
walterbender |
for context, we have been discussing having a turtle art day |
23:41 |
ClaudiaU |
walterbender: we should draft a letter and send it to a few people.... |
23:42 |
walterbender |
ClaudiaU: maybe we do that together tomorrow at twine |
23:42 |
ClaudiaU |
walterbender: +1 |
23:42 |
walterbender |
a new topic |
23:42 |
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#topic GSoC |
23:42 |
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I think we should apply to Google Summer of Code |
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even though we didn't have much luck the past two years, there is no reason not to try again |
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and I think the GCI experience was a good one for us |
23:44 |
GeraldA_ |
walterbender: agreed |
23:44 |
ClaudiaU |
I like the idea |
23:44 |
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in preparation, we can inform countries, so more students can benefit from it |
23:44 |
walterbender |
some of the GCI students (none of whom are eligible for GSoC) could be mentors |
23:44 |
ClaudiaU |
from other countries |
23:44 |
sdanielf |
walterbender: as I said before, I'll read the terms and conditions to check the possibility of become a mentor |
23:45 |
walterbender |
a nice twist: the secondary school kids mentoring the university kids |
23:45 |
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sdanielf: I think it is pretty wide open |
23:46 |
sdanielf |
the main reason is because I can't be a student until I finish my time in the SLOBs |
23:46 |
walterbender |
sdanielf: GSoC is only for university students :P |
23:46 |
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you are too young :) |
23:46 |
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but not too young to be a mentor!!! |
23:47 |
sdanielf |
walterbender: I'm talking about GSoC and GCI |
23:48 |
JT4sugar |
Presenting a case for Sugar to Android projects/tasks as a portion of application might help |
23:49 |
walterbender |
JT4sugar: we need to solicit projects and mentors |
23:49 |
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I'll start that process as long as SLOBs is OK with our applying |
23:50 |
GeraldA_ |
+1 for application |
23:50 |
ClaudiaU |
+1 |
23:50 |
walterbender |
+1 |
23:51 |
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sdanielf: any opinion? |
23:52 |
sdanielf |
+1 |
23:52 |
walterbender |
OK... I'll start kicking that can down the road |
23:52 |
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is full of bad metaphors tonight |
23:53 |
ClaudiaU |
:) |
23:53 |
GeraldA_ |
:) |
23:53 |
walterbender |
anything else pressing? |
23:53 |
ClaudiaU |
not on my end |
23:53 |
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Only that I am looking forward to test FB plugin |
23:53 |
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;) |
23:53 |
walterbender |
I've been flat out (along with the devel team) trying to take care of some of the rough edges for the XO4 release |
23:54 |
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I have a few ideas for Sugar 1.0 about how to deal with landscape vs portrait mode, for example |
23:55 |
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that I am experimenting with in a few of my activities |
23:55 |
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but that is maybe not a SLOBs detail |
23:56 |
JT4sugar |
walterbender, ClaudiaU The SugarJam for Teachers idea is the thinking of linking that to TA International Day or is it on the back burner for now? |
23:56 |
walterbender |
meanwhile, FYI, we should have a Twitter plugin similar to the Facebook plugin coming from the community soon. And someone is working on a Google+ plugin |
23:56 |
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JT4sugar: not sure if they should be the same... |
23:56 |
sdanielf |
walterbender: I can explore the Twitter plugin |
23:56 |
walterbender |
sdanielf: tincho (who is in Montevideo this week) has been working on it |
23:57 |
JT4sugar |
walterbender, Not sure either... |
23:57 |
ClaudiaU |
JT4sugar: not sure.. I was thinking The SugarJam for Teachers is mre broad |
23:58 |
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not about TA, but about SUgar i general |
23:58 |
JT4sugar |
ClaudiaU, That makes sense |
23:58 |
ClaudiaU |
I think we should have less ideas we know we can concentrate and make happen... that many good ideas we end up with nothing |
23:59 |
walterbender |
focus!!! |
23:59 |
ClaudiaU |
perhaps TA internation day will give us enough insite to move to SUgarJam... |
23:59 |
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yes, walterbender... Focus!! |
23:59 |
GeraldA_ |
and, again, focus! |
00:00 |
ClaudiaU |
I propose to work on TA day and from there move to SugarJam |
00:00 |
walterbender |
JT4sugar: ClaudiaU and I will try to get a good TA plan in place soon |
00:01 |
JT4sugar |
Sounds very good! |
00:01 |
walterbender |
OK... so we have a plan |
00:01 |
ClaudiaU |
yes! |
00:02 |
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I have to go now.. |
00:02 |
walterbender |
#action everyone will think of people to become SL advisors/friends/educators |
00:02 |
ClaudiaU |
yes |
00:02 |
walterbender |
#action ClaudiaU and walterbender will work on TA Day |
00:02 |
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#action walterbender will kick off the GSoC application process |
00:02 |
ClaudiaU |
yes |
00:02 |
walterbender |
thanks all for joining us tongiht |
00:02 |
ClaudiaU |
good to connect with all of you again! |
00:02 |
walterbender |
4 |
00:02 |
ClaudiaU |
3 |
00:02 |
GeraldA_ |
2 |
00:03 |
sdanielf |
1 |
00:03 |
walterbender |
#end-meeting |
00:03 |
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