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Meeting started Mon Jan 14 23:01:07 2013 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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walterbender |
maybe we can start with the PR topic? it is late for SeanDaly |
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#topic PR funding for 2013 |
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SeanDaly |
thanks its true i'm drooping & cat asleep in lap |
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walterbender |
SeanDaly: wrote Walter - we have been using eReleases with excellent results - they |
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feed PR Newswire, but are much cheaper. Effective press releases are |
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key marketing tools when paired with events or interviews, etc. |
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I would like the Board to approve a ten-pack at 2390 USD. The reserved |
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releases are good for two years, so the cost could be amortized over |
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the 2013 and 2014 budgets. |
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we had an email discussion... we've lots to shout about this year |
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including Google Code In |
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and Sugar 1.0 |
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SeanDaly |
this is a limited offer from eReleases and is a steep discount from the already discounted nonprofit rate |
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walterbender |
did anyone have questions above and beyond the email discussion? |
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GeraldA |
no |
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walterbender |
maybe we can confirm the email vote: |
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+1 |
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cjl |
I'm +1 on the buy |
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ClaudiaU |
+1 |
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GeraldA |
+1 |
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cjl |
Thanks for bringing this up SeanDaly |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry: do you need the backlog? |
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CanoeBerry |
If it's easy? |
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JT4sugar |
Hi Sean-Nice to see the Pro PR Man in the Sugar Labs corner again! |
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walterbender |
adam: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-14 |
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CanoeBerry |
thx |
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walterbender |
ClaudiaU had voted yes in email... but we can wait for her to come back on line... |
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SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: yes i'm back in action :-) thanks |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry: opinion? vote? |
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SeanDaly |
i'm here to answer questions |
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CanoeBerry |
not yet, neet to catch up :| |
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ClaudiaU |
walterbender: I just voted +1 |
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walterbender |
motion passes... |
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will try to get feedback from daniel, gonzalo and adam for the minutes |
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ClaudiaU |
ok |
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CanoeBerry |
am catching up with http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-07 |
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walterbender |
SeanDaly: maybe you and cjl can work on a first press release for the year about GCI? |
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SeanDaly |
many thanks SLOBs |
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walterbender: certainly |
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walterbender |
SeanDaly: a lot of cool stuff |
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cjl |
We will need to wait out the GCI embargo on grand prize winners (a few weeks), but it will be nice to talk about it. |
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SeanDaly |
i'm sorry i've been down the hold, how best to brief me on GCI? a Skype call? |
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walterbender |
anything else on this topic? |
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cjl |
SeanDaly: We can communicate by e-mail |
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ClaudiaU |
no on my side |
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walterbender |
OK |
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SeanDaly |
cjl: grand |
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walterbender |
let's continue on the plans for 2013 topic... |
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SeanDaly: get to bed |
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ClaudiaU |
I would love to get more familiar but perhaps not in the meeting... I am sure we will be as the PR strategy develops |
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walterbender |
ClaudiaU: maybe we can schedule a meeting at an earlier hour for SeanDaly's participation. |
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ClaudiaU |
great |
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GeraldA |
sure |
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walterbender |
OK. we can schedule a time in email |
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#topic 2013 planning |
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SeanDaly |
ClaudiaU: PR is an incredibly efficient tool for raising awareness, but beyond a communications strategy, requires a project strategy... so 2013 goals are starting point for comm strategy although v1.0 release and next large Sugar gathering in there for sure |
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i'm off to bed thanks all |
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walterbender |
goodnight |
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ClaudiaU |
Thanks SeanDaly |
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walterbender |
#action schedule a PR meeting |
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ClaudiaU |
good nigh |
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night |
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GeraldA |
SeanDaly: Good night. |
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walterbender |
for the minutes: |
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#link http://www.ereleases.com/nonprof.html |
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ClaudiaU |
thanks walterbender |
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walterbender |
re 2013 planning, the OLPC CES announcements have raised some questions/challenges |
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specifically, Caryl B. asked me to bring up the topic of Sugar on Android |
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ClaudiaU |
is Sugar planning to make a public statement? |
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cjl |
*sigh* |
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CanoeBerry |
aside for later: are we sure we will use all 10 press releases? 5 might be sufficient |
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ClaudiaU |
I read many questions in IAEP and OLPC members knew how to answer some, but not all them... |
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cjl |
CanoeBerry: over two years, sur ewe can use 10 |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry: in fact, we have lots of queued up cool stuff, like our i18n work |
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walterbender |
CanoeBerry: and even things like school server camps would make nice press if we had a ready vehicle |
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so I'd think it is worthwhile |
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ClaudiaU |
agree |
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walterbender |
it'll motivate us to be more proactive |
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CanoeBerry |
Yes, as I feel (could be wrong) there's only been 3-5 press releases over the past few years total. |
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walterbender |
be nice to issue a release on the assessment work to offset the spam and misinformation that is circulating |
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lots of topics |
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CanoeBerry: you are correct. and 10 does seem a lot |
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CanoeBerry: but I think we need to be more proactive (and to distinguish ourselves from OLPC) |
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JT4sugar |
From my perspective Sugar 1.0 on Android should be a strategic goal and it can serve as a recruitment tool and use as a tool to push the multi-languages/pootle angle |
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walterbender |
it is the path to further growth |
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JT4sugar: yes... back on that topic |
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we had a GCI student write up a report on the topic |
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cscott has also done some nice work |
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walterbender |
and the work of lionel is relevant. |
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CanoeBerry |
Cool, if (as I'm assuming) we/SL still have $10,000++ in the bank. |
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walterbender |
looks for the GCI report |
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CanoeBerry: yes... we have 10K |
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SeanDaly |
Canoeberry: some releases will be as objective widespread press coverage, others will "inform" but these play a key role - they build our story, journalists always get up to speed with previous few releases |
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Canoeberry: also... we would have done more PR, but I couldn't continue footing the bills out of pocket |
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walterbender |
yes... we've been off people's radar for too long... and meanwhile we have so many great accomplishments |
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need to get the word out |
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JT4sugar |
A Sugar Labs Contest like GCI to attack Android and build on GCI might be way to go-If Sean & Walter TT-Google they may even foot the bill-More good PR for US&Them |
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CanoeBerry |
TT? |
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JT4sugar |
Talk to |
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walterbender |
#link http://www.google-melange.com/[…]/7972209?id=17001 |
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^^ the Android report |
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meanwhile, there are several Sugar apps that have been ported to Android, including variants of Turtle Art. |
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SeanDaly |
yawns for good despite interest in discussion |
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walterbender |
I think it is important that we clarify the various threads: |
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(1) Sugar apps ported to Android |
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(2) Android apps on Sugar |
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ClaudiaU |
walterbender: do you have a list of what Activities have been ported to Android? |
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I would like to know.. |
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walterbender |
(3) Sugar on Android (e.g., Journal, collaboration, view source) |
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(4) XO Learning environment for Android (not Sugar) |
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ClaudiaU |
it would be nice to quickly remind people about design principles for Activities in Sugar |
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walterbender |
re #1 and Claudia's question, I don't have a list... just that I know of two different TA efforts. |
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one that has its origins at OLPC |
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ClaudiaU |
ok |
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walterbender |
and one that came out of the blue from Ali Muzaffar |
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I know that OLPC was also working on Physics |
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re #2, there is Lionel's framework and Brian Silverman and C Scott have some apps that could land soon |
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ClaudiaU |
i know nothing from OLPC.. it would be nice for this info to come from SL |
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walterbender |
re #3, we've had some discussions, but this is a big job and we need to find resources to support the work |
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re #4, I know little about the plans, but it is a distinct effort from Sugar with a different audience in mind, as I understand it |
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But I think we should push hard on 1, 2, and 3 in 2013. |
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GrannieB |
+1 |
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GeraldA |
+1 |
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cjl |
As time is invested into leveraging touch interface (in Linux stack on XO) , the possibility of doing something similar on an Android device (with touchscreen) is worth exploring |
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walterbender |
But also, as satellit points out, we can probably run Sugar directly on Chromebooks |
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and Intel has announced a big push for touch laptops. we are well positioned there as well |
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those would be Sugar for GNOME/Linux, not Sugar for Android |
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we should make some noise about those opportunities too |
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JT4sugar |
Another breakout move could be Ubuntu from CES I saw Mark Shuttleworth running Ubuntu on a smartphone with all the funtionality of desktop and says tablet also will be able to run. THis could fit nicely with latest Sugar/Ubuntu work. |
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walterbender |
JT4sugar: could be... don't know how much of GTK is available on that device |
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worth investigating |
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A few other ideas/opportunities kicking around: integration of the Journal with the Cloud... |
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I'm working with RGS on some ideas on that front |
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to make it easier to share projects and talk about them in social media |
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JT4sugar |
walterbender, I would also try to build in assesment ability into the journal cloud integration if you are not planning already or at least begin the discussion on viability. |
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walterbender |
JT4sugar: do you have something specific in mind? something like alsroot 's work? |
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JT4sugar |
walterbender, Not exactly an idea but with all the information coming up into cloud it would be very opportune to mine that data on the learning side. |
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walterbender |
ClaudiaU and I are working on a write up of the Turtle Art assessments this week :) |
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cjl |
If the SomosAzucar Sugar Network tests well we could use one of the releases to give it more visibility. To the new SLOBs, we funded Sebastian Silvas travel to present i tin Colombia to the Marina Orth Foundation. |
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ClaudiaU |
yes.. we are!! it would be a good paper and we should be more explicit about some design principles for TA |
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walterbender |
and hopefully inform where we go next |
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GeraldA |
This work on assessments and TA seem really exciting and useful to me. |
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As is the chance to communicate more broadly some deisgn principles |
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ClaudiaU |
agree GeraldA.. you should think about writing something similar |
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can you publish anything from your thesis in this conference? |
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it is in NY... |
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during summer |
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deadline is next week.... |
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GeraldA |
ClaudiaA: what is the conference? I am sure I can publish something. |
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CanoeBerry |
Hola G.O. |
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walterbender |
gonzalo_odiard: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-07 |
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CanoeBerry |
http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/s[…]eeting/2013-01-14 |
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ClaudiaU |
let me find the info.. GeraldA |
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http://idc2013.org/ |
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GeraldA |
ClaudiaU: Thanks. I will try to put something together. |
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ClaudiaU |
they have workshops, etc |
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and I am in the reviewing committee |
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cjl |
walterbender: We should have a bunch of SOAS sticks for you to hand out at that meeting |
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CanoeBerry |
walterbender: is there a mailing list reference to satellit's Sugar-on-Chromebook idea? |
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walterbender |
Off topic: Just got a nice note from Tincho about the Sugar course he is teaching in .PY |
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CanoeBerry: no. we should start a thread |
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satellit |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]Topics#Chromebook (ask pbrobinson on #fedora-arm) |
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walterbender |
satellit: thx |
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We are about out of time... |
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a couple of things before we adjourn. |
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I think Bradley has contacted all of the new members? |
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Google Code In is over... we need to select the winners from the top 5 participants |
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200 tasks + 50 participants... lots of patches |
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cjl and I will be wrapping things up with Google, but for the record, it was a great experience |
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ClaudiaU |
walterbender: I have not received anything from Bradley, besides the email to all of us |
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walterbender |
ClaudiaU: I'll ping him. |
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When should we meet next? Same time next week? |
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JT4sugar |
Earlier for Sean?? |
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CanoeBerry |
MLK Holiday? |
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ClaudiaU |
may not be around.. |
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50/50 |
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GeraldA |
2 weeks from today then? |
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cjl |
2 weeks is good |
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CanoeBerry |
Jan 28, 6PM Eastern Time? |
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Or earlier? |
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walterbender |
should work for me. I'll be in California |
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I am not sure earlier works for everyone |
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oh... I'll still be in Boston on the 28th :) |
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OK... end meeting? |
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ClaudiaU |
earlier works for me too |
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walterbender |
6 |
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ClaudiaU |
5 |
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cjl |
4 |
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CanoeBerry |
JT4sugar: thanks for the several ideas, feel free to help satellit write up our options like http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]Topics#Chromebook and as Walter's done above! |
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walterbender |
Mondays I cannot meet earlier... |
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but any other day |
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CanoeBerry |
3 |
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GeraldA |
2 |
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cjl |
wonders if we can get a 1 from gonzalo_odiard |
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CanoeBerry |
and a 0 from daniel's ventriloquist |
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walterbender |
while we are waiting... thanks all... |
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JT4sugar |
CanoeBerry, I will look to check out satellit work and see if I can expand on-Thanks! |
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walterbender |
I'll write up minutes |
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CanoeBerry |
JT4sugar: many of us will be in Detroit Feb 6 and 11 if you will? Re: http://schoolserver.org summit near Toronto.. |
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ClaudiaU |
thanks walterbender... writing tomorrow |
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walterbender |
ClaudiaU: yes... |
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satellit |
CanoeBerry: sugar runs now on Raspberry Pi |
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walterbender |
another press release :) |
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#end-meeting |
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GrannieB |
Ohhh.. do you have a link? |
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