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Meeting started Tue Jan 31 15:02:06 2012 UTC. The chair is erikos. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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erikos |
who is here for the dev team meeting? |
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looks around |
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manuq |
here |
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silbe |
waves |
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erikos |
hey silbe and manuq |
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m_anish |
here |
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erikos |
hey m_anish |
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erikos |
gonzalo__: walterbender here as well? |
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#link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]nuary/035508.html |
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today's items we want to discuss ^^^ |
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gonzalo__ |
hello ! |
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erikos |
hi gonzalo__ |
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walterbender |
hello |
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erikos |
walterbender: hey! |
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great so let's start |
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gonzalo__ |
hello walterbender and silbe ! |
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walterbender |
hi everyone. |
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erikos |
#topic === Gonzalo Odiard: Global Text to Speech === |
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Status: this one is under review, I would say 90% done. There is agreement on the design and on the general implementation. The major |
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open questions are (feel free to comment if I am missing any or if you disagree about the ones noted): |
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- do we keep the shortcut Alt-Shift-s? [3] |
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- addition to the Palette API that is needed by the rework of the Palete |
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in GTK3 [4] |
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[3] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]nuary/035496.html |
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[4] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]nuary/035491.html |
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gonzalo__: so, just tested and reviewed your latest patch, looks good to me |
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silbe: any blockers for this one from your side? |
15:07 |
gonzalo__ |
erikos, i have returned to alt-shift-s |
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manuq |
I'm testing it here too |
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erikos |
gonzalo__: yes, seen that |
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all good |
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gonzalo__ |
and remove the palette api issue need |
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erikos |
yes |
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silbe |
erikos: I'm not sure about it, v3 introduced major implementation changes vs. v2 (the addition of SugarMenuItem) and I haven't had time to take a closer look yet. |
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erikos |
gonzalo__: frommy side all is good |
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gonzalo__ |
silbe, yes v4 go back with the SugarMenuItem |
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i have a question |
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silbe asked about adding a voice selection, i agree but i don't know if the palette will be much loaded |
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erikos |
silbe: sure, gonzalo just pasted v4, so ok if you take a closer look |
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silbe: but do you see any major issue? or just maybe another nitpick here and there |
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and when can you have that look... |
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silbe |
In general, I'm not so happy after patches for Features getting posted so close to the deadline (that includes my version of the proxy settings patch). Even though I worked overtime, I didn't have enough time to review them in time. |
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erikos |
silbe: sure, I agree, that is why I pointed that out several times in my mails and announcements |
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walterbender |
would think the point of the deadline is to make sure that there is time on the other side for thorough review |
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erikos |
and that is something you have to say again and again |
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walterbender: no, the code has to land by today |
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walterbender: since we are doing tarballs |
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walterbender |
erikos: yes, but undoubtedly we will find problems... we aren't shipping today |
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erikos |
walterbender: but that is something different |
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walterbender |
erikos: I guess what I am saying is that we should build a review window into the schedule |
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erikos |
walterbender: yeah, I tried to make that with communication this time |
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walterbender: see for example here: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]nuary/035428.html |
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walterbender: but we can make that implicit as well in the schedule |
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if you see our schedule: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.96/Roadmap |
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walterbender |
erikos: I think it needs to be explicit. |
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but we should move on to the topic of the meeting |
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silbe |
walterbender: yes, maybe we do need to make that more explicit by adding a "Feature patches submission deadline" or something like that. But it's hard to set a fixed deadline for that, as a patch usually needs to go through several rounds of review before its ready for inclusion. |
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erikos |
we have one month before UI freeze, so there is a chance to make UI changes as well to features |
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silbe |
walterbender: well, it actually is on topic as we need to decide what to do about the delayed Features. |
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erikos |
if we find issues |
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but the major part should be ready |
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ok, about that Feature in particular: |
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- it had patches for several weeks |
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- it went through different iterations of review and testing |
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- we adjusted accordingly to that feedback |
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- and we agree on the implementation |
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I gave my OK already |
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silbe: so maybe it is fine if you have a quick look later at the latest patch and say if it is ok to push or not |
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silbe: it is not so controversial, I think |
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silbe |
I'm not too happy with it, but like the proxy CP it's pretty self-contained. If it causes trouble, deployments and users can simply remove it (though we should make that easier). |
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erikos |
silbe: what exactly are you not so happy with? |
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silbe |
erikos: see my reviews. I can't say anything about the v4 patch, of course, as I haven't seen it yet. |
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erikos |
silbe: but were there any major blockers? |
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gonzalo__ |
silbe, i modified a lot of things based in your reviews |
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silbe, is difficult make you happy :) |
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walterbender |
as it should be :P |
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m_anish |
:) |
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gonzalo__ |
may be i can send you a puppy :) |
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erikos |
wonders if that culd be considered corruption |
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silbe |
I just took a look at v4 of the patch (https://patchwork.sugarlabs.org/patch/1144/). It's not perfect (several of my previous concerns like mentioning new dependencies and monitoring gconf are still unaddressed), but nothing that isn't fixable. |
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erikos |
silbe: thanks for taking a look |
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silbe |
gonzalo__: good software design and development is hard. |
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gonzalo__ |
silbe, ok, lets continue then |
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erikos |
silbe: gonzalo__ so sounds like you guys can figure that out |
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I am doing tarballs tomorrow, do you think you can make it? |
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silbe |
gonzalo__: in my experience if you're sloppy at the beginning, issues will come back to bite you twice as bad. |
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gonzalo__ |
erikos, yeah one concern is a comment in the patch, the another is not implemented yet in any other configuration. anyway i can do it |
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erikos |
gonzalo__: great |
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silbe: ok from your side? |
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silbe |
erikos: probably not until tomorrow, but we can at least try. |
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erikos |
silbe: ok, good |
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next one |
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#topic === Walter Bender: Write to Journal anytime === |
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Status: there have been many ideas floating around, we have one concrete implementation from Walter that adds a Palette to the Activity sub-toolbar [5]. The patch is under review, the following items are |
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currently open with this approach (feel free to comment if I am missing any or if you disagree about the ones noted): |
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- what icon do we use for the Palette? |
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- do we remove the NamingAlert now (the question here is, does the new |
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functionality besides easing the note taking inside the activity fulfill |
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the 'reminder' functionality if no notes have been taking and/or no |
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title has been set that were provided by the NamingAlert?) |
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- is there still enough room for the export icons in the activity |
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sub-toolbar? |
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[5] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/[…]eflections-ta.png |
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listens |
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dsd_: late-comers get to pay the ice-cream today |
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walterbender |
erikos: Since we remove Keep, it should not be a problem (today) |
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but there is a new can of worms we are opening with XO 3.0 |
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I made some changes to TA, for example, to detect whether or not the buttons all fit, and if not, use a palette. |
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not ideal and not something an activity developer should have to worry about (me thinks( |
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raises some issues for the design team in 0.98 |
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Cerlyn_ is now known as Cerlyn |
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walterbender |
but this patch should be OK |
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erikos |
walterbender: ok, that would be about the "room for the export icons in the activity sub-toolbar" |
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m_anish |
erikos, walterbender just curious, are there other instances inside sugar where one is entering text in a text entry inside a palette of a 'popped-up' toolbar? |
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silbe |
walterbender: we can and probably will improve on this Feature in 0.98. To me it's more of a field experiment, but we can land it because it's better than what we had before. |
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erikos |
m_anish: no, there aren't |
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manuq |
silbe: +1 |
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walterbender |
silbe: sure... although I have already been doing some field testing... more is needed |
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but I think we should get rid of the hated Naming Alert now in conjunction with this patch |
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m_anish |
erikos, hmm at first it seemed a bit hackish to me to do it this way, but I can't think of an alternate solution myself. |
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walterbender, erikos, did gary have some ideas on this? |
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erikos |
m_anish: yeah, I gave it all some thinking (see my mails on the topic) but I think it is the best we can do for now |
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walterbender |
it terms of code, all of this is a minor intervention |
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erikos |
m_anish: this Feature has a long history (should be available on the Feature page) |
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walterbender: about removing the NA, I am not 100% convinced |
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silbe |
m_anish: +1. All mail clients^W^W designs suck, this one just sucks less. |
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erikos |
walterbender: the palette does not address parts of what the NM is for |
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walterbender |
erikos: what is its value add at this point? (1) tags, (2) star, and (3) in your face |
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title and description are already available and your F5 patch makes it easy to get to the detail view |
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m_anish |
erikos, yep, seen that, the one proposed is the best from the ones on that page IMO, but I guess this will be modified in the future, perhaps when someone does something with tags |
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erikos |
the NM makes sure that you name your sessions (in an your face style agreed) but it does make sure |
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walterbender: I don't say the NM is a glorious thing in itself, but it has some functionality |
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walterbender |
erikos: maybe that is the intent... little evidence that it is effective (except in deployments run by Simon) |
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gonzalo__ |
erikos, the NM is hated and ignored in most cases |
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walterbender |
erikos: if we did keep it, it should be scaled back to just a naming alert, not a detail view alert |
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silbe |
erikos: there's still the option of switching to the details view automatically after closing an activity... |
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walterbender |
and only invoked if the name wasn't changed |
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erikos |
silbe: yeah, that option came up at one point as well |
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walterbender |
silbe: I think that would confuse our users |
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erikos |
walterbender: the 'only invoked if the name wasn't changed' is done like that atm as well |
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walterbender: and that was one argument |
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walterbender |
erikos: I guess I hadn't noticed, since I always ignore it :P |
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erikos |
so, my main point is: in general the naming/set description field is pretty much hidden |
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and if we remove the NM we should think in the next cycle what we could do about it |
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silbe |
walterbender: I'm still not convinced about the confusion, but I won't press my point. Only a large-scale experiment would really show. |
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erikos |
to achieve with something else, what the NM tried to achieve |
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walterbender |
slbe: agreed. |
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erikos |
s/NM/NA |
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gonzalo__ |
question, what you think if the activity icon in the toolbar is white if the user has not changed title/description and take the user color if has chnaged? |
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walterbender |
erikos: many (not all) activities have the Activity toolbar open by default |
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m_anish |
walterbender, silbe erikos , just another thought, most people would just click the 'keep' button as before, does that action popup the palette? If it doesn't users might not even notice the text-entry! |
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walterbender |
gonzalo__: interesting idea... |
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erikos |
walterbender: many? maybe the ones you write...:) |
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m_anish |
s/palette/secondary palette/ |
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gonzalo__ |
walterbender, the activity toolbar open by default? |
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erikos |
gonzalo__: interesting in the first place, but not sure messing with the colors paradigm is a good thing |
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silbe |
erikos: At Sugar Camp, Gary pointed out that no matter what we do, most users will probably rarely name / tag / whatever their entries and we should try to do as much of it automatically. I have to admit he's got a point. We should make the "manual" entering of metadata convenient, but not try to make the user do it if they don't want. |
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walterbender |
erikos: I guess I misspoke, but it is an easy change to make |
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erikos |
silbe: yeah, there is definitely some truth to that |
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m_anish: yeah, that was my concern |
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gonzalo__ |
walterbender, is a good point if is implemented in the activity class code and not in every activity |
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walterbender |
gonzalo__: probably doable |
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silbe |
gonzalo__: that would be misleading. The activity is already the users, no matter whether they have explicitly given it a name. |
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m_anish |
erikos, ok |
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manuq |
gonzalo__, walterbender, but if the child stops the activity, what color the journal entry will have? |
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erikos |
ok, let's streamline the discussion: |
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I guess people agree to remove the NA, correct? |
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m_anish |
+1 |
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silbe |
+1 to removing the NA, no matter what |
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manuq |
+1 |
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gonzalo__ |
manuq, the same like today, i am thinking only in a way to show the fields where filled |
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+1 to remove NA |
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walterbender |
+1 |
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erikos |
what about the icon? |
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http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/[…]eflections-ta.png ? |
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walterbender |
that is the wrong icon |
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gonzalo__ |
there are one similar but with a pencil.... |
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erikos |
walterbender: do you have a screenshot? |
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http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]o_journal_anytime |
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I guess the one in the cookie monster screenshot |
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walterbender |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]nal_Text_View.png |
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gonzalo__ |
yes.... |
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m_anish |
+1 to icon walterbender 's last link |
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erikos |
it looks a bit different in style to the otehr sugar icons |
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but that can be adjusted if desired |
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m_anish |
walterbender, another idea about displaying whether some reflection has been entered... Maybe inside the journal icon 'booklet', you could display 2-3 horizontal lines to indicate some entry has been made? |
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erikos |
and about renaming 'description' to 'reflection'? |
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silbe |
no objections from my side on the icon in http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]nal_Text_View.png |
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walterbender |
erikos: that is perhaps a bit controversial |
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erikos: the learning team seems to favor it, but I don't think I ever got signoff from the design team |
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m_anish |
erikos, hmm, don't know what the translations for 'reflections' would mean in different langs |
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erikos |
walterbender: maybe we can leave it out for the merge and you ask the design team with the info you have? |
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walterbender: we have one more month for the string change |
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walterbender |
leave it out? or use description? |
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silbe |
m_anish: for 0.98 has ambitious plans on showing more metadata in the Journal list view that go along the same line. I'm staying tuned for patches. ;) |
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erikos |
walterbender: use description for now |
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silbe |
m_anish: *walterbender has ambitious plans |
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walterbender |
erikos: OK. I'll try to confirm with both teams |
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m_anish |
silbe, :) awesome! |
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walterbender |
m_anish: nothing a good #TRANS note wouldn't be able to address :P |
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m_anish |
walterbender, heh |
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erikos |
great, I think we sorted that one |
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I will finally review and merge for tomorrow |
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next one: |
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#topic: === Sascha Silbe, Anish Mangal, Aleksey Lim: Proxy configuration === |
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Status: we currently have a patch that adds a new Proxy section [6][7] which mimics the GNOME2 section. Several people have argued that it should be better added to the Network section instead of having a |
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separate Proxy section (e.g. [8]). Mockups [9][10][11] and a proof-of-concept patch [12] have been posted that do mimic the GNOME3 |
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proxy setting and include it in the Network section. The following main question is currently open for this feature (feel free to comment if I am missing any or if you disagree about the ones noted): |
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- which path should we take now, add a separate Proxy section or include it in the existing Network section? (if that decision is taken we can sort out the rest) |
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[6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]uration#UI_Design |
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[7] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]nuary/035445.html |
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[8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]nuary/035483.html |
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[9] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/[…]ew_proxy_none.png |
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[10] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/[…]_proxy_manual.png |
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[11] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/[…]oxy_automatic.png |
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[12] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/[…]roxy_layout.patch |
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listens |
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silbe |
listens as well ;) |
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m_anish |
too (I'm fine either way, I never liked the proxy icon I created anyway) |
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erikos |
of course if you see my recent mails on that topic, I am all for moving it in the network section |
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I even did a proof-of-concept patch |
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so basically it would need finishing and merging with the model from the other patch |
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walterbender |
+1 to moving it to the network section (at the bottom) |
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manuq |
I tested erikos patch, proxy options seems to fit very well in the network section |
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gonzalo__ |
what silbe and m_anish think about this? |
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is wondering if is disconnected :) |
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m_anish |
gonzalo__, I don't feel strongly about it either way ;) |
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silbe |
ok, looks like the way forward is moving it into the network CP. |
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gonzalo__ |
great, how we follow now? |
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erikos |
ok, so the following we could do schedule wise: |
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- we land it with an exception |
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manuq |
here I am |
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erikos |
let's say we give it another week to fully be merged? |
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silbe |
the main issues are a) who does the work and b) if it doesn't get submitted and reviewed in time, will there be a freeze exception for it or do we land it in 0.97 (i.e. in master after branching off sucrose-0.96)? |
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erikos |
does that sound reasonable? |
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gonzalo__ |
m_anish, can you integrate the ui proposal from erikos? |
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silbe |
gonzalo__: the problem with IRC is that you don't notice someone's typing... |
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gonzalo__ |
silbe, ahhh :) |
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erikos |
silbe: yeah, these are the right questions :) |
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in general would be great to land it in 0.96, now that we invested quite a few people's time already |
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and we have most of the patch done |
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we just need a taker to finish it up |
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m_anish |
gonzalo__, not sure i'll find time in this week :/, I thought erikos has already worked on it |
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erikos |
m_anish: for me was a proof-of-concept because I wanted to make sure the other part does not land |
16:12 |
m_anish |
erikos, ok |
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erikos, what is remaining (other than merging in network cp)? |
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silbe, ^ |
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silbe |
erikos: to me, 0.96 vs. 0.98 is independent of how much work we put in it. Like discussed at Sugar Camp Paris, we should branch off early and land anything that is ready in master. But I'm not averse to landing the proxy CP in 0.96, for similar reasons as the speech Frame device icon. |
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erikos |
silbe: m_anish: mainly up to you guys |
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you can think about it... |
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but not too long :) |
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ok, nothing more on my list |
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silbe |
m_anish: while there's a lot I'd like to be changed "under the hood", it's in a reasonable shape for now, so only the UI changes would need to be done |
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erikos |
anything else someone wants to bring up? |
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m_anish |
silbe, ok |
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erikos, how soon can I start proposing features for 0.98 :) ? |
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erikos |
m_anish: you can propose Features anytime |
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starts the count down |
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silbe |
m_anish: any time really. But it can happen that nobody will look at them for some time. If you need assistance or a decision, be prepared to remind people several times. |
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erikos |
silbe: well put |
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m_anish |
silbe, erikos okay thx! |
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erikos |
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silbe |
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16:19 |
erikos |
hopes we still have enough awake people |
16:19 |
gonzalo__ |
then? |
16:19 |
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there are a decison about the feature? |
16:20 |
erikos |
gonzalo__: does not look like the submitter is in a hurry to land it ;p |
16:21 |
gonzalo__ |
ok :( |
16:21 |
silbe |
gonzalo__: AIUI one of the patch authors (Aleksey, Anish or me) will rework the patch to move it to the network CP, and there will be a freeze exception in case we don't get it reworked and reviewed today. |
16:21 |
manuq |
3! |
16:22 |
gonzalo__ |
silbe, but if you were interested in land the feature can request a exception |
16:22 |
erikos |
silbe: I think gonzalo__ asks for what your plans are |
16:22 |
m_anish |
silbe, +1 |
16:23 |
gonzalo__ |
excuse me if i am rude, bt i don't understand really |
16:23 |
silbe |
erikos: I'm over being in a hurry w.r.t. Sugar patches. :-P And in this case, it's a) a Feature and b) pretty self-contained, so no need to rush it. |
16:24 |
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gonzalo__: I understood erikos' statement earlier to mean that he will grant an exception, so I did not request it explicitly. |
16:25 |
erikos |
silbe: ok |
16:25 |
silbe |
so, to make it explicit: I'm requesting a Freeze exception for the proxy CP Feature. |
16:25 |
erikos |
silbe: yeah, there is the exception possibility |
16:26 |
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silbe: has to be done by mail anyhow :) |
16:26 |
silbe |
erikos: :-P |
16:26 |
gonzalo__ |
erikos..... |
16:26 |
erikos |
silbe: but you can do once the patch is ready |
16:26 |
gonzalo__ |
who willl work in the feature? |
16:27 |
m_anish |
gonzalo__, me, or alsroot or silbe |
16:27 |
silbe |
gonzalo__: "one of the patch authors (Aleksey, Anish or me) will rework the patch" |
16:27 |
m_anish |
:) |
16:27 |
erikos |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]se#Feature_freeze |
16:27 |
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for reference ^ |
16:27 |
gonzalo__ |
ok, do you know how much time do you need? |
16:28 |
m_anish |
gonzalo__, to just merge into the n/w CP, within this week |
16:29 |
gonzalo__ |
great! then +1 got the exception :) |
16:29 |
erikos |
ok, let's get somw work done! |
16:29 |
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thaks for participating |
16:29 |
gonzalo__ |
is hungry |
16:29 |
erikos |
gonzalo__: m_anish can youguys finish the countdown? |
16:30 |
m_anish |
2 |
16:30 |
gonzalo__ |
1! |
16:30 |
erikos |
#enmeeting |
16:30 |
m_anish |
yayy :) |
16:30 |
erikos |
#endmeeting |
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