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Meeting started Tue Nov 15 15:02:54 2011 UTC. The chair is erikos. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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erikos |
makes a note that manu is around |
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#topic sugar dev meeting |
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seen rgs and walterbender |
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spotted gonzalo as well |
15:04 |
walterbender |
is busy converting activities to Cairo :P |
15:05 |
erikos |
ok, let's go: |
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* status of action items from last week |
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- check if ASLO supports well having different activity versions, dotted versions and major versions (Manuel) |
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manuq: please report ^^^ |
15:05 |
manuq |
erikos, well.. |
15:06 |
erikos |
listens |
15:06 |
manuq |
ASLO lets us add a field for Compatibility Aplications in each version of the uploaded activity |
15:07 |
erikos |
yes, like 0.94 or 0.96 |
15:07 |
manuq |
right |
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but I messed with the minor versions |
15:08 |
erikos |
and the activity-updater code in sugar does not install 0.96 if not on 0.96? |
15:09 |
manuq |
erikos, I have to test more, I will send my test today |
15:09 |
erikos |
manuq: one thing I am worried about, is that when you install an activity via browse |
15:09 |
manuq |
I got confused with the minor versions of the activities |
15:09 |
erikos |
manuq: I don't think we check the version there |
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manuq: great, no worries |
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manuq |
will check today |
15:10 |
erikos |
manuq: so two things we should check, update via activity updater and browse |
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manuq: thanks! |
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manuq |
ok |
15:10 |
gonzalo |
erikos, in the last meeting somebody said the browser activity sent the sugar version |
15:10 |
erikos |
next item (unless there are comments here) |
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gonzalo: a verifier |
15:11 |
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- write up cairo porting guide (Walter) |
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walterbender: ^ |
15:11 |
walterbender |
I added quite a bit to the Porting page in the wiki |
15:11 |
erikos |
your report please! :) |
15:12 |
walterbender |
grabs the URL |
15:12 |
erikos |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]ures/GTK3/Porting |
15:12 |
walterbender |
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]Drawable_to_Cairo |
15:12 |
erikos |
I guess |
15:12 |
rgs |
looks nice, good snippets |
15:12 |
walterbender |
I updated it based on the latest tweaks from the TA port |
15:13 |
rgs |
is the TA port in the wild now ? |
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(i.e.: released & used on XOs) |
15:13 |
erikos |
walterbender: this looks great! |
15:13 |
walterbender |
rgs: yes... v125 is Cairo |
15:13 |
rgs |
wow, great work |
15:13 |
walterbender |
rgs: Abacus Cairo is also live |
15:13 |
manuq |
walterbender, I already read that, very good tips |
15:13 |
rgs |
El Cairo is the new world capital then! |
15:13 |
walterbender |
Portfolio will be live later today |
15:13 |
erikos |
if someone ports an activity to cairo, please use the guide and repotr back, enhance etc |
15:14 |
rgs |
erikos: which one would be interesting to get ported? |
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is not sure what other big Cairo activity is out there |
15:14 |
walterbender |
we may want to add some links to various Cairo docs on the web... if anyone has favorites |
15:14 |
erikos |
rgs: gonzalo made a list the othre day |
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gonzalo: do you have that? ^ |
15:15 |
rgs |
oh absolutely, we should start accumulating docs/reference since no docs for PyGI stuff (so having it for the gtk3 activities will be very handy) |
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erikos: gonzalo : maybe drop that list in the Porting section? |
15:15 |
walterbender |
speaking of which, key my ports was the conversion of my sprite library... maybe worth considering adding to the toolkit? also my simple toolbar helper methods? |
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rgs |
so people with free cycles know where to go when looking for work |
15:15 |
erikos |
rgs: maybe the document page rather |
15:15 |
gonzalo |
erikos, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Acti[…]ies/PortingToGtk3 |
15:15 |
erikos |
aeh development page, i meant |
15:16 |
walterbender |
maybe track the two stages: --> cairo --> gtk3 |
15:16 |
erikos |
gonzalo: any reason to keep that on the laptop.org wiki? |
15:16 |
rgs |
walterbender: i think that upstream effort is very important, but maybe we should let the dust settle a bit now that we are making the move? erikos would know best |
15:16 |
gonzalo |
erikos, no really |
15:16 |
rgs |
walterbender: (that upstream effort = dropping your helper code in sugar-toolkit) |
15:16 |
erikos |
gonzalo: ok, feel free tomove over, we are upstream now :))) |
15:17 |
gonzalo |
erikos, ok :) |
15:17 |
erikos |
rgs: hmm, I did not fully get that, can you rephrase? |
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oh sprite library... |
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rgs |
yeah |
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Walter's common code |
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used in TA, Abacus, etc |
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that could be stored in a common place |
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to be reused |
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gonzalo |
erikos, about upstream, we have a RoundBox class in sugar-toolkit, is used in Memorize and Chat, I did a cairo version |
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inherited of gtk.HBox |
15:19 |
erikos |
walterbender: like with any other toolkit addition, I would run it through the process |
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gonzalo: great, send the patch, I guess? |
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15:20 |
gonzalo |
erikos, I am testing it porting Chat |
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walterbender |
erikos: of course... just floating the idea |
15:20 |
erikos |
ok, great - whenever ready |
15:20 |
gonzalo |
erikos, when ready I will sent, comment here if anybody else need it |
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walterbender |
next topic then? |
15:20 |
erikos |
gonzalo: yes, is great |
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sounds good to me - thanks for working on that! |
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* status of the GTK3 port |
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so, I have been working on merging our repos to mainline |
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basically, talking to silbe and such |
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we did not advance yet, as I would have wished |
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yesterday with marcopg and dsd we decided to use a separate repo for the new toolkit |
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http://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-toolkit-gtk3 |
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instead of the branch |
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walterbender |
out of curiosity, what was the reasoning? |
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erikos |
repo name == package name |
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possible easier handling in jhbuild |
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walterbender |
makes sense :P |
15:25 |
erikos |
so, I will follow up on that |
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secondly, benjamin has been doing more work on palettes |
15:25 |
rgs |
any progress with palettes/theming? |
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erikos |
toolbars are working a bit better now |
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but we still crash when hovering |
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so, lot's more work to do |
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erikos |
theming, we have another hackfest in BsAs in december |
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rgs |
what dates? |
15:26 |
erikos |
we can attack it there if we do not get at it before then |
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rgs: 5-16 |
15:27 |
rgs |
cool stuff |
15:27 |
erikos |
rgs: basically olpc-dev meeting |
15:27 |
manuq |
erikos, good |
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erikos, will be in Rosario, not BsAs |
15:27 |
erikos |
manuq: oh yes, sorry :) |
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so, that is the status from my side |
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others please: |
15:28 |
manuq |
erikos, yes we can attack theming then or after |
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gonzalo |
erikos, no more help from theming experts? |
15:29 |
erikos |
gonzalo: who are the theming expoerts? |
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walterbender |
is not familiar with BsAs |
15:29 |
rgs |
walterbender: ? |
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Buenos Aires? |
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ahh |
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you mean |
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with the meeting |
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erikos: (has there been a librsvg release?) |
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erikos: (so we can drop the ugly kludge I wrote) |
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checks |
15:30 |
erikos |
gonzalo: benjamin will help as time permits |
15:31 |
gonzalo |
erikos, ahh, ok |
15:31 |
erikos |
gonzalo: but I think we have to do the main work |
15:31 |
rgs |
it seems they did a release yesterday!! |
15:31 |
erikos |
rgs: ohh-weee! |
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rgs |
which means |
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we can bump the dep |
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and remove that klude |
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*kludge |
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erikos: you can assign that action to me |
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"remove librsvg horrendous stuff in terms of using the introspected version" |
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errr... not so fast |
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checking release notes |
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i think dsd_ said we needed some change in libxml too |
15:32 |
erikos |
Version 2.35.0 cool! |
15:33 |
rgs |
wheeee |
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dsd_'s commits are there |
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so we should be good, I'll give it a spin this evening |
15:33 |
erikos |
rgs: yes, we do, right they are there |
15:33 |
dsd_ |
libxml stuff is no longer needed |
15:34 |
rgs |
dsd_: so with this release we are ready to rock then? |
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gonzalo |
rgs, but is be available in fedora? |
15:35 |
rgs |
gonzalo: I am guessing it'll appear as an update soon-ish |
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gonzalo: if not, we can make it happen :) |
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checks koji |
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gonzalo |
rgs, great |
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rgs |
gonzalo: not in koji yet |
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gonzalo: but we could package it and prod the package maintainer |
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there is always pbrobinson to saves us all |
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; |
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;) |
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erikos |
updates the development page |
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http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/F[…]ing_upstream_work |
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all of these things are tracked at ^^^ |
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what else? |
15:40 |
manuq |
I have advanced in Browse port |
15:41 |
erikos |
manuq: and now you need palettes to work, right? |
15:42 |
manuq |
erikos, with the work benjamin did for toolbars, I continued working in edit subtoolbar |
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undo, redo, copy, paste, search |
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erikos |
manuq: cool, but the activity crashes for you when you hover over a button ,or? |
15:42 |
manuq |
they were working fine for me |
15:42 |
erikos |
manuq: (clicking works fine, hovering not) |
15:42 |
manuq |
erikos, right |
15:43 |
erikos |
manuq: ok |
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manuq |
however, I'm working on getting downloads back |
15:43 |
erikos |
manuq: great |
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manuq |
that doesn't need palettes work |
15:43 |
erikos |
good |
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gonzalo: your end? anything we should know? |
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questions, stuff you are stuck |
15:44 |
gonzalo |
erikos, i am removing hippo from chat |
15:44 |
erikos |
excellent |
15:44 |
gonzalo |
almost the same code is used in Speak |
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rgs |
gonzalo: nice! |
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gonzalo |
then we can kill to birds with one shot |
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is not ready yet, but is progressing |
15:45 |
erikos |
you mean 'catch two monsters with one cookie'? |
15:45 |
gonzalo |
erikos, ha ha :) |
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dsd_ |
what ab0out read? |
15:46 |
gonzalo |
dsd_, Read is working, i am waiting the evince developers finish the review of the needing patches |
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dsd_, later may be i ask you help to push in fedora, ok? |
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dsd_ |
ah nice |
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sounds good |
15:48 |
erikos |
btw, I checked quickly abiword today |
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so they have no introspection support for their widget yet |
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and nobody is working on it |
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i hope their static bindings keep on working with their new version |
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but there are chances this is the case |
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gonzalo |
erikos, yes |
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erikos, they released a new version yesterday |
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erikos |
gonzalo: right, that is why I checked ;p |
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gonzalo |
erikos, ok :) |
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erikos |
anything else? |
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gonzalo |
erikos, remembering we are aproachinf Features deadline? |
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erikos |
gonzalo: that leads me to my next topic ;p |
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* current status of the development cycle |
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gonzalo: as you have been saying, next monday will be feature submssion deadline |
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http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.96/Roadmap |
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gonzalo: any questions about the procedure? |
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(or anyone else) |
15:53 |
gonzalo |
erikos, nop :) |
15:54 |
erikos |
ok, I want to do a release tomorrow |
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(for now without the gtk3 stuff as I fear this takes longer) |
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but i would like to have NM-0.9 support in |
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dsd_: how do things look? |
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dsd_: any comment about silbe's last comment |
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dsd_ |
which comment is that? |
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erikos |
dsd_: last mail |
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dsd_ |
i started looking at a mail yesterday |
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not sure if i'll have time today |
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for permissions we should probably just catch and ignore exceptions while deleting |
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and i have some code for the reply/async exception comment |
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erikos |
dsd_: great! |
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dsd_: you have more time this is the only major change, I will delay if needed |
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dsd_: we are close! |
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gonzalo: anything activity specific you want to raise? |
16:05 |
gonzalo |
erikos, only that i proposed no do a separated activity team meeting, because we are almost all here |
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erikos |
gonzalo: yes, great |
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walterbender |
+1 |
16:07 |
erikos |
other than that, anything people want to suggest/change for our current structure? |
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of the meeting |
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or all good as is? |
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gathers feedback after 3 meetings |
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gonzalo |
like it |
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erikos |
starts counting down |
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0.49 |
16:10 |
cjl |
erikos: If you want to talk to AbiWord porter, it was Jean Brefort (irc:jean) often on #abiword |
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erikos |
0.1 |
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cjl: already talked to them |
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cjl |
k |
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erikos |
#enmeeting |
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heh |
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#endmeeting |
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