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16:10 |
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Meeting started Sat Jun 11 16:10:04 2011 UTC. The chair is silbe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
16:10 |
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16:10 |
silbe |
#topic Dextrose release schedules |
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silbe |
#info Dextrose 3 is the current development version. It is the first release synchronised with OLPC. Release is scheduled for 2011-07-20. |
16:13 |
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#info Dextrose 12 is the next development version and will be released in December 2011. |
16:13 |
bernie |
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16:14 |
silbe |
#info Neither OLPC nor Dextrose has decided on the version of Sugar for OLPC 12.1 / DX 12 yet, but we're aiming for 0.94. |
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#info One of the release goals for DX 12 will be NetworkManager 0.9 support, including the associated design and code architecture changes. |
16:15 |
dfarning |
silbe do you think you can try to push for 0.94 as mainly a bug fix release rather than a new feature release? |
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silbe since olpc and us are both trying to make a stable release in Dec. |
16:16 |
silbe |
dfarning: I don't think we'll need to do much pushing. The only significant contributors right now are paid by either OLPC or AC. |
16:17 |
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dfarning: the major new feature that 0.94 will hopefully have is the NM 0.9 work. |
16:18 |
dfarning |
silbe thanks that sounds good. then we can do a bernie release for .96 |
16:19 |
silbe |
Which is a rather sad state of affairs, BTW. But that's a different topic; maybe if Pablo joins in we can bring it up later? |
16:19 |
bernie |
silbe, m_anish: what about the activity updater? is it upstream yet? |
16:20 |
dfarning |
Pabloe is not availabe on weekend so he can't participate in these meeting :( |
16:20 |
silbe |
bernie: I haven't assembled the patches to a single piece yet, so I couldn't even take a closer look. :-/ |
16:20 |
bernie |
silbe, m_anish: i've seen that dsd reverted to the old updater from sugar 0.82 for his next release... the one that depends on bitfrost and uses weird python constructs all over the place. |
16:21 |
silbe |
dfarning: ok, we should do something about that - maybe in combination with the OLPC-AU meeting? |
16:21 |
dfarning |
silbe but there has been some action for Latin American developer post EduJAM |
16:22 |
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bernie, do you know why he reverted? |
16:22 |
silbe |
dfarning: good to know. Now if somebody could export a braindump of Spanish that I can import... ;) |
16:23 |
dfarning |
silbe yah -- learning spanish is much hard for me at 40 than leaning danish was at 16. |
16:23 |
dirakx |
dfarning: what action ? ;). just curious. |
16:23 |
bernie |
dfarning: i think he did not even see the new updater in dextrose... |
16:24 |
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dfarning: the one in sugar 0.92 still doesn't support the microformat, so it wasn't adequate for him |
16:24 |
dfarning |
dirakx I though i saw some stuff from manuq |
16:24 |
dirakx |
dfarning: ah o.k |
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yep. |
16:24 |
silbe |
bernie: erikos has been asking about the new updater, so there's a chance they might switch. That's why I need to work on it ASAP. |
16:24 |
bernie |
dfarning: we still have plenty of patches that haven't been subitted upstream, i think it would be worth reiterating over all of them and resubmitting the ones that we missed. |
16:25 |
silbe |
bernie: please check your backlog :-P |
16:25 |
bernie |
silbe: isn't the current patch set in dextrose good enough for submission? |
16:25 |
silbe |
bernie: it isn't even good enough for me to take a look :-/ |
16:25 |
bernie |
silbe: ah, i had missed that! |
16:26 |
silbe |
bernie: the changes are scattered over a sad of patches |
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set even |
16:27 |
manuq |
dfarning: hi |
16:27 |
bernie |
silbe: yes, i don't understand why people started stacking adjustments over old patches rather than submitting a new revision of the old patch... |
16:28 |
dfarning |
manuq hey -- was just commentin that I was happy to see your work on the mailing lists. |
16:28 |
silbe |
bernie: that's exactly my problem. Now I need to combine them first... Easy enough to do, but it takes time. |
16:28 |
dfarning |
bernie is that a workflow tch needs to learn or someone else? |
16:29 |
bernie |
silbe: yes, we should not accept incremental patches (although it's good to split a large work in N self-contained patches that do one thing each) |
16:29 |
manuq |
dfarning: thanks, I'm here if you have something to ask |
16:30 |
bernie |
dfarning: maybe both tch and anish? i'm not sure... silbe, which features tend to have have incremental patches? |
16:31 |
dfarning |
bernie in that case just you or silbe showing them will be enough to fix things for future patches. |
16:32 |
bernie |
dfarning: k |
16:32 |
silbe |
bernie: a nice patch set would be great, but stacks of bug fixes to the previous patches are not. |
16:36 |
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I guess we're done with the DX release schedule now? Any remaining question? |
16:36 |
dfarning |
bernie, silbe do you have time to go over http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Dextrose/3/Todo and move stuff from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]ose/3/Todo/EduJAM to there of else to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Dextrose/12/Todo |
16:37 |
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I expect that tch and anish will spend almost all of their time over the next 6 months working off those lists. |
16:39 |
silbe |
dfarning: most of the items on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Dextrose/3/Todo are more of an idea than something to actually work on. I'd need more detail to decided on whether we can do it within DX-3 or even DX-12 timeline. |
16:39 |
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"kill the mute function" is already done, though. |
16:40 |
dfarning |
silbe ok, should the sorting and prioritizing task be for m_anish |
16:41 |
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silbe is that all for dextrose? |
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should we move to activites with dirakx and icarito? |
16:42 |
silbe |
dfarning: we should convert them into actual work items before sorting and prioritising them. After filtering it a bit for obvious long-term tasks. |
16:42 |
dfarning |
silbe +1 |
16:42 |
silbe |
ok, let's move on then |
16:42 |
dirakx |
ok I've been working on activity issues of the au people, |
16:42 |
silbe |
#topic Activities |
16:43 |
dfarning |
dirakx awesome :) |
16:43 |
dirakx |
some of the issues are already upstreamed some others not. |
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they have a bunch of new activities that want to develop. |
16:43 |
icarito |
read your prior conversation, looking at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Dextrose/3/Todo I'm interested in item #1 "Make activities work in Gnome without Sugar" |
16:43 |
dirakx |
so we are working in a procedure of custom activity development. |
16:44 |
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#link http://dev.laptop.org.au/proje[…]issues?query_id=6 |
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also did some updates and fixes for some activities regarding mainly activity.info deprecations and other minor fixes. |
16:45 |
dfarning |
dirakx have you gotten a chance to talk to yama for feedback on the activity creation template? |
16:46 |
silbe |
icarito: let's talk about that after the meeting. A first step would be to define what level of non-Sugar-ness is intended. |
16:46 |
dirakx |
dfarning: not yet. I have to poke him for it. |
16:46 |
dfarning |
dirakx +1 |
16:47 |
dirakx |
we are looking for a dev/designer pythonist to join us in working on this new activities developments. |
16:47 |
dfarning |
dirakx so basically you and icarito have a plan and you are working that plan? :) |
16:47 |
dirakx |
dfarning: indeed. |
16:47 |
silbe |
dirakx, dfarning: we could add it to the agenda for the OLPC-AU meeting. We should try really hard to make it happen next week; I promised this week. :-/ |
16:48 |
dirakx |
this week icarito was on a trip this week btw. |
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silbe: thanks. |
16:48 |
dfarning |
dirakx +1 have you found anyone promising in your circle of friends. |
16:48 |
dirakx |
dfarning: nop :( all the pythonist here are very busy. |
16:48 |
icarito |
yes I was on a late honeymoon :-) |
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16:49 |
dirakx |
icarito: have you anyone that could it that role ? |
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fit* |
16:49 |
acaire11 |
hola rafael |
16:49 |
dirakx |
hola acaire11 |
16:50 |
icarito |
which brings us to one idea we're pursuing which is a framework |
16:50 |
dfarning |
silbe are you setting up a meeting with yama to sync the AU development with dx12 development? |
16:50 |
acaire11 |
upps - sorry |
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aprendiendo a usar la herramienta |
16:50 |
dirakx |
dfarning: but I have some prespectives from the community let's follow up by mail. |
16:50 |
icarito |
sorry, its something we discussed at edujam |
16:51 |
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what i'm wanting to have is a way to code activities in a MVC way so that we may have the UI done in HTML/css |
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and hook events to python so that the backend can be done in python |
16:51 |
bernie |
silbe: i guess it's too late to work on most of the stuff in Dextrose/3/Todo... except maybe for the journal multiple selection work. We might want to move the rest of the list to Dextrose/12/Todo. |
16:52 |
silbe |
dfarning: we're setting up a meeting to discuss OLPC-AU's technical challenges and how Dextrose / AC can help them address them. IOW: What we are going to work on for DX-12. |
16:52 |
dfarning |
dirakx +1 -- we should also talk to pablo there are a buch of people active in ceibal jam who are not active on the sugar list. |
16:52 |
icarito |
this could help us leverage a lot of html/css expertise available here for building content / activties |
16:52 |
dfarning |
silbe +1 |
16:52 |
dirakx |
dfarning: +1. |
16:53 |
icarito |
dirakx, sorry I mixed topics |
16:53 |
silbe |
icarito: interesting idea. Are you going to build on WebKit already or xulrunner at first? |
16:53 |
dirakx |
icarito: np, that additionwould be nice. i.e making gui on html/css |
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there is glade for gtk, also ;). |
16:54 |
dfarning |
icarito I think you were on topic, I am just slow. we haven't had a meeting in a while and I am trying to figure out how the piece fit together. |
16:55 |
icarito |
silbe: at this point i'm not decided, depends on which one has easier hooks |
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silbe: whichever is the least work actually :-) |
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as its only a side project to the Activity Pack we're building |
16:55 |
silbe |
icarito: It's bound to be WebKit. Nothing can be worse than python-xpcom. ;) |
16:56 |
icarito |
the idea of the activity pack is to have a distribution channel for a group of activities |
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and a way for having a catalog, a bit like the ubuntu add/remove tool |
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i consider it a part of our job to facilitate an ecosystem of content in activities |
16:58 |
dirakx |
icarito: can you make a description onthe wiki with roadmap..etc..? somewhat like alsroot is doing with TheServer |
16:58 |
silbe |
icarito: how does it relate to a.sl.o? |
16:59 |
icarito |
silbe: the other side of the problem that is the actual distribution of activities and I've been trying to wrap my head around alsroot's sweets project for that |
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actually I was just discussing this with him on pvt |
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so aslo is supposed to be a web frontend to the activity library |
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17:01 |
icarito |
the idea is we can distribute an activity pack installer (launcher in sweets terminology) |
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this installer would be a pretty html rendered catalogue |
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to launch activities packaged as sweets in the same way ASLO is |
17:02 |
silbe |
icarito: so it would be something like a frontend to the a.sl.o database that's implemented as a Sugar activity? |
17:03 |
icarito |
this opens the posibility of having a communication channel for i.e. feedback or discussion among users about activities |
17:03 |
silbe |
icarito: or a frontend to a different database than a.sl.o, so people looking for activities need to check both places? |
17:03 |
icarito |
silbe: yes in a way, for offline use, packaging of activities and distribution |
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silbe: actually a tool for deployments for instance to deploy their activity selection and a way for us to deploy AC's activity selection |
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i'm at a stage where i'm looking at the pieces for this and trying to see how they fit, so I'm hoping to document what I find and my vision so as to get feedback |
17:05 |
silbe |
icarito: ok, the next question would have been how it relates to the activity updater, but I'll wait for your document instead. |
17:06 |
icarito |
from a user's pov they could have just one download and get a select activity pack and info about the activities, i.e. who made them, what are they for, maybe even to provide feedback or discuss them with other users |
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silbe: ok yes but your questions are very useful because I need to think of every place where we interact with the rest of the system |
17:07 |
silbe |
icarito: glad to be of service |
17:07 |
icarito |
i dont want to overcomplicate the project, my goal is a distribution means for an activity selection |
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strategics about who does selecting are a different topic :-) |
17:09 |
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looking at i.e. ubuntu you have universe/multiverse (like ASLO) then you have PPAs (like deployments might have, or AC) |
17:09 |
silbe |
does the microformat activity updater support multiple URLs? If so, that would be a distribution channel for activity groups as well - though I expect your project to be more encompassing. |
17:10 |
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ok, should we move on to the next topic? |
17:10 |
icarito |
thanks I'll update you then about it, will email dextrose list and then document in a wiki page |
17:11 |
silbe |
icarito: thx! |
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#topic Meeting time |
17:13 |
icarito |
maybe just to make sure, next meeting is at usual old time, correct? 14utc? |
17:13 |
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heh glad we're in sync silbe |
17:13 |
silbe |
heh |
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Let's make a quick poll: |
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please state your preference for 14 UTC and 16 UTC as -1,0,+1 |
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(@everyone) |
17:14 |
dfarning |
silbe, bernie, dfarning, icarito, dirakx, m_anish, tch ^ :) |
17:14 |
icarito |
silbe: confusing instructions |
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i thought dfarning already set 14? :-) |
17:15 |
dirakx |
16utc +1. |
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14UTC 0 |
17:16 |
silbe |
icarito: Sorry. Please give a value for both 14 UTC and 16 UTC, stating how well it would suit you: -1 not good, 0 neutral, +1 good |
17:16 |
dfarning |
14 +1 |
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16 +1 |
17:16 |
icarito |
14 +1 |
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16 -1 |
17:17 |
dfarning |
alroot said +1 to both |
17:17 |
silbe |
ok. AIUI bernie is 14 0, 16 +1 |
17:18 |
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FTR: yama is 14 0, 16 -1 |
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(we talked about it last week) |
17:19 |
tch |
hey guys |
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anytime is ok for me during the week :) |
17:19 |
dirakx |
I think that for yama 14 or 13 is o.k. |
17:19 |
silbe |
tch: hey! your chance to change to tip the scales and change the meeting times ;) |
17:20 |
tch |
silbe: a had a terrible yesterday and had to over sleep to recover lol |
17:20 |
silbe |
ok, then let's get back to 14 UTC for now. We have 1-2 "not good" for 16, but none for 14. |
17:20 |
tch |
s/terrible/terrible day |
17:20 |
dfarning |
tch |
17:20 |
silbe |
tch: don't let multiple Journal objects chase you in your dreams ;) |
17:20 |
dfarning |
silbe +1 |
17:21 |
tch |
silbe: i dream with it all day lol, |
17:21 |
dfarning |
tch more paperwork for taxes? |
17:21 |
dirakx |
:) |
17:21 |
silbe |
#agreed AC meetings will happen on Saturdays at 14:00 UTC |
17:21 |
tch |
dfarning: paperwork, car cash, etc |
17:21 |
icarito |
tch: good work there sorry I gave no feedback i have to take time to write emails |
17:22 |
silbe |
tch: but you're well? Just the car wrecked? |
17:22 |
tch |
walter and his 20.000 entries DS helped to find flaws in the current implementation so Im still fixing it |
17:22 |
icarito |
acaire11 is our UI expert tried to show her the video but she told me she needed to try the patches herself |
17:22 |
tch |
silbe: yeah, but car has a few scratches nothing serious but i really love my car haha |
17:23 |
icarito |
btw acaire11 is laura, my wife who also volunteers her skills for sugar mission :-) |
17:23 |
silbe |
tch: lol. I have a copy of his DS as well, helped me find bugs in the DS code. :) |
17:23 |
acaire11 |
hello to all |
17:23 |
dfarning |
silbe let's chang topic back to dextrose and have tch give an update. |
17:23 |
silbe |
tch: ah, ok then. Scratches are normal for a car. If it's new you'll need to make a first scratch or you'll be too worried about not making one. :-P |
17:24 |
dfarning |
hello acaire11 |
17:24 |
silbe |
#topic Tinchos dextrose work |
17:24 |
acaire11 |
dfarning back from great vacations |
17:25 |
dfarning |
acaire11 nice |
17:25 |
silbe |
acaire11: welcome to our meeting! |
17:25 |
acaire11 |
catching up! |
17:25 |
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silbe thx! |
17:25 |
tch |
Basically, I have working version of the multi-selection, sadly my ex-current approach had some not-nice performance issues, so I am working on it. |
17:26 |
dfarning |
acaire11 we are in need of a UI person. non-of us have any taste :( |
17:26 |
tch |
At the same time, I am doing a small research on nfs-like services so at least i can try the xs-storage (naive cloud journal) idea as a entry-level backup system |
17:26 |
acaire11 |
I'll be happy to help :) |
17:27 |
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tons of taste here to share |
17:27 |
tch |
and that it is, |
17:27 |
acaire11 |
jojojo |
17:27 |
dfarning |
tch how about the state of the dx3 patch set? can you clean that up so silbe can pull stuff upstream -- he mentioned something about your patch work flow also |
17:28 |
silbe |
dfarning: I guess s/dx2/dx3/ ? |
17:29 |
tch |
dfarning: well, the last patches i sent to the list (before edujam) were for dx2 |
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dfarning: most of them were the last would-be-nice-to-have/solve-ones |
17:29 |
bernie |
silbe: 16 +1, 14 -1 |
17:30 |
tch |
nothing critical, but talking about dx3 upstream work: It would be nice to have my notifications and share-3g there |
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but I guess upstream first interest its on the microformat updater |
17:31 |
silbe |
bernie: psst. Another vote like yours and we'd have to change the time. :) |
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tch: you mean OLPC. I do have interest in the other ones, too. :) |
17:32 |
dfarning |
tch can you take alook at the various TODO lists and prioritize them. |
17:32 |
tch |
right |
17:32 |
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dfarning: i will. |
17:33 |
dfarning |
silbe is that about it? I think covered all the major topics. |
17:33 |
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anyone have organizatioal questions for me? |
17:33 |
silbe |
is there anything else we should discuss for the current topic? Two other topics I'd like to discuss are a) Who's going to do the NM 0.9 port and |
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b) when do we meet with OLPC-AU |
17:34 |
dfarning |
silbe I'll set up b :) |
17:34 |
tch |
silbe: _if_and _when_ i am done with my current tasks i would like to! I got some experience with NM while doing the 3G thing |
17:35 |
dfarning |
silbe is a) a show stopper for dx12? |
17:35 |
silbe |
awesome, two topics covered in two chat messages. |
17:35 |
tch |
silbe: but would be great if all design discussion could be done before that ;) |
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silbe: guess ill need to catch up with soas guys, i hear they did some work on that |
17:36 |
silbe |
dfarning: It's a major issue for OLPC-AU at least. It'll also limit our choice of which version of Fedora we're going to base on. |
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tch: Gary and I did a 3-hour marathon on the design last week. |
17:37 |
tch |
silbe: awesome, a GUI mockup + user-interaction-flow mockups would be great |
17:38 |
silbe |
Unfortunately, nobody else was there last week (no email replies either) and walterbender already mentioned he can't join us tomorrow. |
17:38 |
dfarning |
silbe is the fedora issue really an issue. i thougt we were basing on 14 because of the gnome and python updates in 15? |
17:39 |
tch |
basing on fedora 14 would save a lot of time (i think) :P |
17:39 |
silbe |
dfarning: TBH I have no idea yet. But as of today, I have a larger disk drive and can install a F15 VM to take a look. |
17:40 |
dfarning |
silbe great. |
17:40 |
tch |
and though we were going to stay close to OLPC build this time ;) |
17:40 |
dfarning |
tch +10 |
17:40 |
silbe |
tch: has OLPC already decided on a base OS for the December 2011 release? |
17:42 |
tch |
silbe: if they choose something different than f14 (considering the big changes since f15, correct me if i am wrong) it is highly probable that won't be mature enough |
17:42 |
dirakx |
at least browse doesn't start on F15 due to an hulahop thing. |
17:43 |
tch |
maybe bernie can have a second though on this, but staying with f14 could be a wise choice |
17:44 |
silbe |
tch: ultimately it's martinlanghoffs choice I guess. AIUI we're following OLPCs lead, whatever their choice is - for better or worse. |
17:44 |
dfarning |
any other issues? |
17:45 |
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I'll summarize the meeting note -- actually I turn them into a giant todo list:) |
17:45 |
silbe |
I'd like a quick poll of what everyone is working on / going to work on if you don't mind, just so I have some overview again. |
17:45 |
dfarning |
silbe sure |
17:46 |
silbe |
#topic Who's working on what |
17:47 |
dfarning |
I'll also work with m_anish to wear his dextrose PM hat and help resync things |
17:47 |
silbe |
Please give a single line each on what you've been working on and what you'll be doing next week. Thanks! |
17:47 |
tch |
tch: multi-selection / xs journal device / dx2-features list for dx3 |
17:48 |
dirakx |
dirakx: au activities bugs and custom development. |
17:48 |
dfarning |
is going to MVD to coordinate development expectations with Plan Ceibal and try to talk Flor de Ceibal into hosting and education focued summit this fall :) |
17:49 |
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alsroot sugar server. |
17:49 |
silbe |
has been doing upstream work (Browse, code review, design work, ...) and will sort through the remaining patches in DX-2 that haven't been upstreamed yet. Plus Design Team meeting tomorrow (NM 0.9 port). |
17:49 |
icarito |
icarito: activities pack / catalogue + aslo |
17:50 |
silbe |
dfarning: MVD? |
17:50 |
icarito |
dirakx: I need an XO, do you as well? |
17:50 |
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dfarning: how do we go about it, contributor's program? |
17:50 |
dfarning |
montivideo |
17:51 |
dirakx |
icarito: my xo machines are o.k for now. |
17:51 |
icarito |
ah ok i have a borrowed xo1 but would need an xo1.5 hopefully two to test collaboration |
17:51 |
dirakx |
icarito: Adam holt's contributor program would be a way to get one. |
17:51 |
dfarning |
icarito we have some 1.0s but we will have to ask adam for 1.5s |
17:52 |
icarito |
one xo 1.0 would be nice so I can return befana's (pilar from sl colombia) |
17:52 |
dfarning |
dirakx icarito I will follow up on our team xo needs |
17:52 |
silbe |
icarito: CP should be a no-brainer. Please give me a heads-up one day in advance of the meeting and I'll join in, just to be sure. |
17:52 |
icarito |
will go thru the contributors program for the 1.5 |
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cool thanks silbe |
17:53 |
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thanks dfarning |
17:53 |
dirakx |
+1 |
17:53 |
silbe |
icarito: but wait for dfarning first |
17:53 |
icarito |
yes I will |
17:53 |
silbe |
ok, any non-famous last words? |
17:53 |
dirakx |
is waiting for the xo 1.75 contributors program. :) |
17:54 |
silbe |
too :D |
17:54 |
dfarning |
going to the contributors meeting should be fun:) they ask if you organization has done anything to help olpc |
17:54 |
dirakx |
hehe. |
17:55 |
dfarning |
I get to say 'yes we have 8 developer working full time on the project:)' |
17:55 |
silbe |
lol |
17:55 |
tch |
i want mine too :( |
17:56 |
dfarning |
ok that looks like that about covers everything. |
17:56 |
silbe |
tch: huh? Where is yours? At customs? |
17:56 |
dfarning |
thanks guys. |
17:56 |
silbe |
ok, let's end the meeting then... |
17:56 |
tch |
I don't have a xo 1.75 |
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silbe |
3 |
17:56 |
tch |
i want one lol |
17:56 |
dirakx |
lol |
17:56 |
silbe |
2 |
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tch |
BOOM |
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silbe |
1 |
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0 |
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tch |
-1 |
17:56 |
silbe |
-1 |
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