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| 18:52 |
meeting |
Meeting started Wed Apr 6 18:52:46 2011 UTC. The chair is m_anish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
| 18:52 |
tch |
copy paste previous convo? |
| 18:53 |
m_anish |
yep, standby |
| 18:53 |
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#link http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/quer[…]ity&keywords=~dx2 |
| 18:53 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2588 |
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#help action |
| 18:54 |
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#action tch look into microformat updater |
| 18:54 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2602 |
| 18:55 |
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#action anish: check if the bug exists in olpc-f11/14 builds, raise priority if so |
| 18:55 |
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tch, next? |
| 18:55 |
tch |
m_anish: 2609 |
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silbe <silbe!~silbe twin.sascha.silbe.org> has joined #sugar-meeting |
| 18:56 |
tch |
wow, just in time |
| 18:56 |
m_anish |
silbe, hola! |
| 18:56 |
tch |
silbe: hey silbe, |
| 18:56 |
m_anish |
silbe, bug triaging going on : http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/quer[…]ity&keywords=~dx2 :) |
| 18:56 |
silbe |
hi everyone! :) |
| 18:56 |
m_anish |
tch, re 2609, i haven't seen it happen since :/ |
| 18:57 |
silbe |
if you like you can test the new DX3 image. There are a few known bugs, but it's ready for an initial round of testing. |
| 18:57 |
tch |
silbe: i have a suspicion that you have done something releted to #2609 |
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s/releted/related |
| 18:57 |
m_anish |
silbe, awesome, do you have it uploaded somewhere? |
| 18:57 |
tch |
silbe: :D |
| 18:58 |
silbe |
tch: nah, I can't have introduced any bug ;) |
| 18:58 |
tch |
silbe: i mean that you could have fixed it :P |
| 18:58 |
silbe |
m_anish: https://download.sugarlabs.org[…]rose/testing/dx3/ |
| 18:59 |
tch |
silbe: I remember seeing some upstream patch about palettes being destroyed before time |
| 18:59 |
m_anish |
silbe, thanks :), i'l download them tonight, when internet is faster |
| 18:59 |
tch |
silbe: not sure if it could be related though, I could never reproduce #2609 |
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m_anish: which version you plan to test, so i can dowload and test the other |
| 19:01 |
m_anish |
tch, xo1 |
| 19:01 |
tch |
kk, ill go for 14 |
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1.5 |
| 19:01 |
m_anish |
and bombard silbe with bugs :P |
| 19:01 |
tch |
m_anish: haha |
| 19:01 |
silbe |
let me paste the known bugs first :) |
| 19:01 |
m_anish |
tch, i guess you know what caused http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2663? |
| 19:02 |
silbe |
- allow Sugar to dump core |
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- fix for default font size of Terminal |
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- make sure we disable the mesh on XO-1 via module parameter |
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- check dependencies, especially for accessibility series - /srv/upload/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/source/ax-1.0-1.uy.fc11.src.rpm - /srv/upload/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/source/magnifier-Ceibal-3.3.2-1.1.uy.fc11.src.rpm - /srv/upload/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/source/CapitalFont-1.0-1.uy.src.rpm - /srv/upload/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/source/FlatbedCursors-0.2-1.fc11.1.uy.src.rpm |
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- check DX2 customised RPMs - /srv/upload/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/source/bootfw-q2e43-1.fc11.src.rpm - /srv/upload/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/source/olpc-utils-1.0.29-1.fc11.src.rpm |
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tch |
silbe: fix for default font size of Terminal (could be related to patch introduced in dx1/dx2) |
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silbe: that list is pretty much what I expected hehe |
| 19:05 |
silbe |
there are also a few missing activities, e.g. Browse. Not sure if I accidentally dropped it while copying from the DX2 config or if something else is missing. |
| 19:06 |
m_anish |
silbe, ok, i or maybe dirakx can cross check list of activities if you want? |
| 19:07 |
silbe |
m_anish: if doing your own build is faster than downloading (depends on how many of the packages are already cached locally) you can test your local build instead. |
| 19:07 |
tch |
m_anish: that issue was caused and later solved by esteban accesibility patch, I also submitted a patch for it (mine is for contingency) |
| 19:07 |
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m_anish: 2663 |
| 19:07 |
silbe |
tch: yes, #2609 rings a bell. Let me check. |
| 19:08 |
tch |
silbe: :D:D |
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m_anish: should we close 2663? |
| 19:08 |
m_anish |
tch, can you do the honors :) |
| 19:08 |
silbe |
tch: might be 5b5ec6156bbba69a5a5f6e7caef19eaceb823c33: ActivityListPalette: fix bundle_changed disconnection |
| 19:08 |
tch |
m_anish: ok |
| 19:08 |
m_anish |
#action tch close #2663 |
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:) |
| 19:09 |
silbe |
tch: or wait... |
| 19:09 |
m_anish |
#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2592 (and 2609 being discussed) |
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i think walter had a patch for 2592 |
| 19:11 |
silbe |
tch: probably not 85e714ecb1e00e2652a6700a6868c698010c8c3e (fix regressions introduced by 29582de6 (fix for SL#1742)) in sugar-toolkit because that one is about the menu items not working, not the palette not appearing at all. |
| 19:11 |
m_anish |
(maybe not) |
| 19:11 |
silbe |
tch: so it might be a new bug. Would be nice to a) find a way to reproduce and b) check the logs for Tracebacks. |
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m_anish: somebody checking the list of activities and providing a "diff" would be quite appreciated. |
| 19:13 |
m_anish |
silbe, ACK. will do |
| 19:13 |
silbe |
m_anish: thx! |
| 19:13 |
m_anish |
#action anish:check activity list in dx3 xo1/1.5 builds |
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re: 2592 I guess its not very painful but affects globally, no one in py discovered it, i accidentally hit it during testing |
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tch, ^ thoughts? |
| 19:17 |
tch |
silbe: ack |
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mchua_afk is now known as mchua |
| 19:18 |
tch |
m_anish: did walter send you the fix? |
| 19:19 |
m_anish |
tch, nope, whatever he posted is on the bug history |
| 19:19 |
silbe |
m_anish: I just managed to view the animation for #2592 ("animate 2592.gif"). Looks like something that should eventually be fixed, but low severity + priority. |
| 19:20 |
m_anish |
silbe, +1 |
| 19:20 |
tch |
m_anish: yeah is low priority but if there is already a fix, I don't see why we shouldn't try it and merge it |
| 19:20 |
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silbe: ^ |
| 19:21 |
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oh, no patch yet.. |
| 19:21 |
silbe |
the "fix" didn't get into mainline yet because the code is messy (before the patch already) and Simon didn't want the patch in for now. We should try to get this moving again once 0.92.1 is released. |
| 19:21 |
tch |
m_anish: can you turn this into an action? haha |
| 19:21 |
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m_anish: ^^ |
| 19:22 |
m_anish |
#action try to get walter's spiral patch into 0.92.1 (possibly related, #2592) |
| 19:23 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2658 |
| 19:23 |
silbe |
m_anish: into 0.94, not 0.92.1 - that's why we're waiting until after 0.92.1 (because until then the focus will be on bug fixing) |
| 19:23 |
m_anish |
I don't know if py really wants it this way... i'll double check with them |
| 19:23 |
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silbe, sorry :) |
| 19:24 |
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#action try to get walter's spiral patch into 0.94 (possibly related, #2592) |
| 19:24 |
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#action anish check with py if fix for #2658 is needed |
| 19:25 |
silbe |
isn't #2658 an enhancement? |
| 19:25 |
tch |
m_anish: +1 about #2658, there are some tabu in there |
| 19:25 |
m_anish |
i guess #2659 is activity (this meeting is for platform only) |
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silbe, yep |
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silbe, but i'm not sure if that enhancement will cause more problems than solve them, so I need to check with py again. |
| 19:26 |
silbe |
FWIW, it sounds like a good use of the notification feature (assuming it's only shown once per session). |
| 19:26 |
tch |
m_anish, silbe: +1 if they approve it, I will make it happen :P since the original author is missing |
| 19:27 |
m_anish |
#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2673 |
| 19:27 |
silbe |
if your laptop is going to stop booting in the near future, the user should definitely be notified about it - via active notification, not via polling. |
| 19:27 |
m_anish |
silbe agree, (that's why we filed it) :) |
| 19:27 |
silbe |
ok, I'll shut up ;) |
| 19:28 |
tch |
m_anish, silbe: silly as it sounds, there is a tabu in the technical team about olpc security system |
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m_anish, silbe: thats why we should ask first.. |
| 19:29 |
silbe |
tch: ok |
| 19:29 |
m_anish |
re: 2673, WhatSayU? I guess we wait and watch how well the feedback thing works? |
| 19:30 |
tch |
m_anish: +1, we could also try other approaches like putting the feedback server at XS |
| 19:30 |
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m_anish: using the same trick as with updater in offline schools |
| 19:31 |
m_anish |
tch, yep, more than one possible soln |
| 19:32 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2713 |
| 19:32 |
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tch, silbe ^^ this would be very useful IMHO |
| 19:33 |
tch |
silbe, m_anish: #2713 I think it will be necessary also for debugging purposes, we should consider sending that info aslo with the feedback reports |
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s/aslo/also |
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m_anish: I remember Roberto talking about that, so for me is a +1 |
| 19:35 |
m_anish |
tch, i guess this is pretty high priority then. |
| 19:35 |
tch |
m_anish: yup |
| 19:36 |
m_anish |
tch, any thoughts on the form in which the info should be displayed, 'last updated on' is a good start IMHO |
| 19:37 |
tch |
m_anish: for the control panel, last_updated_on is fine |
| 19:37 |
silbe |
m_anish: re. #2713, what time would it show? yum update, activities list update? The older one of both? |
| 19:38 |
tch |
silbe: yum update |
| 19:38 |
m_anish |
silbe, hmm interesting, i was looking at it from just the yum point of view |
| 19:38 |
silbe |
for the feedback stuff, a good start might be to include the versions of some important packages: sugar*, dextrose* |
| 19:39 |
tch |
silbe: +1 |
| 19:39 |
m_anish |
silbe, +1 |
| 19:40 |
tch |
silbe, m_anish: showing last_update for activities could be confusing since not all activities are necessary updated |
| 19:40 |
m_anish |
tch, (OT) in the few feedback logs i've looked at, I don't see the actual traceback (or maybe I'm just dumb) or maybe we're not printing a logging.exception or something similar |
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tch, yup, lets keep it yum only for the time being, but sending these infos as anonymous feedback reports could be interesting. |
| 19:42 |
tch |
m_anish: please send me the log that doesn't show it, and ill check too |
| 19:42 |
silbe |
tch: ok. We should make sure to have the wording indicate it's just for the system, not the activities. |
| 19:42 |
tch |
silbe: +1 |
| 19:42 |
m_anish |
agrees as well :) |
| 19:42 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2723 |
| 19:43 |
silbe |
tch: it's going to be a Dextrose only patch (because it depends on distro and even needs explicit support in the updater). |
| 19:44 |
tch |
silbe: of course |
| 19:44 |
m_anish |
I've uploaded the core dump for this, but don't really know what triggered it... silbe i wasn't able to reproduce 'sugar crash while browse downloading stuff' |
| 19:44 |
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silbe, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen ;-) |
| 19:45 |
tch |
m_anish: #2723 huge log, looking |
| 19:46 |
silbe |
m_anish: the Sugar crash thing (apparently only happening while the Journal is active) is hard to trigger and thus diagnose. :-/ |
| 19:46 |
m_anish |
tch, i basically everything remotely related so very verbose :) |
| 19:46 |
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silbe, yah :/ |
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s/basically everything/basically uploaded everything/ |
| 19:46 |
silbe |
m_anish: that's one of the reasons I want to enable core dumps again for DX3 |
| 19:46 |
tch |
m_anish: if its that hard to trigger and even when it happens nothing very serious happens, we can give it a low priority |
| 19:46 |
m_anish |
silbe, +1 |
| 19:48 |
silbe |
m_anish: when attaching core dumps, we need to know the exact build it was produced in. gdb can't do anything we the dump alone, it needs the binary and debugging symbols for binary + all libs. |
| 19:49 |
m_anish |
silbe, hmm, i'm not sure I have that build with me now... i'll be sure to keep track of that info, if i hit it again |
| 19:50 |
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'latest Dextrose-2 international build' doesn't make it very clear in the bug description :-/ |
| 19:50 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2591 |
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^ This is bad, and should be fixed, and exists everywhere :-( |
| 19:53 |
silbe |
m_anish: I remember walterbender wanting to fix it, but don't know what got of it. We should ping him. |
| 19:53 |
tch |
yup |
| 19:54 |
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silbe, m_anish: ^ |
| 19:54 |
m_anish |
okay |
| 19:55 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2616 |
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Another usability hitch :/ (i suck at coding) |
| 19:55 |
tch |
m_anish: I will take over that |
| 19:56 |
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m_anish: since i will be already looking into microformat |
| 19:56 |
m_anish |
tch, okay |
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#action tch look into #2616 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2617 |
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tch |
m_anish: lets ping pgf and make sure it arrives to f14 kernel? |
| 19:58 |
m_anish |
tch, this was another hack, right :) |
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| 19:58 |
silbe |
tch: it's already in the olpc kernel, we just need to enable it via module parameter. for DX3, too :) |
| 19:58 |
tch |
m_anish: his solution is the proper one |
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silbe: great! |
| 19:58 |
m_anish |
silbe, nice :) |
| 19:58 |
tch |
m_anish: another action related to this one is to remove my hack from dx-platform |
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for dx3 |
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m_anish |
#action remove hack from dx-platform for dx3 and enable mod_param for kernel having the fix |
| 20:00 |
silbe |
is there anything in dextrose-platform yet that makes sense for dx3? |
| 20:01 |
m_anish |
checks the dx-platform spec |
| 20:01 |
tch |
silbe: good question, removing the whole rpm sounds a lot easier if there nothing else, otherwise I would probably have to hack the hack |
| 20:02 |
m_anish |
silbe, nope, just the disable mesh thing for now |
| 20:02 |
silbe |
ok, good. I didn't pull in dextrose-platform so far. :) |
| 20:03 |
m_anish |
tch, http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2618, this is already fixed, right? |
| 20:03 |
tch |
haha, |
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m_anish: yup I fixed (hacked) it. The "problem" is that the logic for switching touchpad mode is part of the frame device code (on its model) and the hotkey is a completely separated stuff |
| 20:04 |
silbe |
oh, another incarnation of the "hidden" shortcut problem... |
| 20:04 |
tch |
m_anish: the "proper" fix would require moving the model to a jarabe.model .. but not sure if its worth the effort |
| 20:05 |
m_anish |
silbe, what do you suggest? |
| 20:05 |
silbe |
or maybe not... |
| 20:05 |
tch |
there are two options actually, duplicate the code or moving it to jarabe.models |
| 20:06 |
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then the frame icon and the hotkey code would use it from there |
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this model keep track of its current mode and trigger events... etc |
| 20:07 |
m_anish |
tch, are we gonna push this for upstreaming? |
| 20:07 |
tch |
m_anish: if we do it, we should push it upstream. |
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m_anish: the current hack simply waste memory by instancing the frame icon palette |
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m_anish: when the icon gets loaded |
| 20:09 |
silbe |
as upstream, I still believe that this functionality should live in some system daemon, e.g. olpc-kbdshim. |
| 20:09 |
tch |
silbe: that sounds interesting too, accessible through dbus? |
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silbe: who else we can ask about this? |
| 20:11 |
silbe |
tch: why do you need to access it from Sugar? |
| 20:12 |
tch |
silbe: we both talking about switching xo 1.0 touchpad mode, right? |
| 20:12 |
silbe |
tch: yep |
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I'd imagine it to work like the brightness control |
| 20:12 |
tch |
silbe: currently the code that does the switching is part of the device icon model |
| 20:13 |
silbe |
tch: and that's the part I'd prefer to get rid of ;) |
| 20:13 |
tch |
silbe: yeah me too |
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silbe: i suggested a new model in sugar and you suggested a system daemon |
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silbe: my concern is that, if we depend on that daemon it will be harder to upstream because of the dependency |
| 20:15 |
silbe |
the only reason to keep some support for it in Sugar is the ability to indicate the current status in the Frame. I don't know how important that is. If we need to retain it, I'd say we should check the device status directly (via sysfs). |
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tch: upstream where? Sugar Labs or OLPC? SL would be quite glad to get rid of the code. ;) |
| 20:16 |
tch |
silbe: if we don't keep track of its status it will create a lot of confusion, trust me. |
| 20:16 |
m_anish |
tch, i agree |
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silbe, is the bug re: speaker frame icon not getting updated when the vol up/down keys are pressed a result of a similar limitation? |
| 20:19 |
silbe |
m_anish: let's say the fix for that bug (missing update for Speaker) is the only thing I'd retain for the touchpad. |
| 20:19 |
tch |
m_anish: we should move on, and go back on this topic later? |
| 20:19 |
silbe |
in both cases we need to monitor the actual hardware state from Sugar |
| 20:20 |
m_anish |
silbe, yep |
| 20:20 |
tch |
silbe: i agree too |
| 20:20 |
silbe |
nice |
| 20:20 |
m_anish |
so, any #action emerging from this :)? |
| 20:21 |
silbe |
hack the olpc-kbdshim repo so we can sneak in the patch behind pgf's back ;) |
| 20:21 |
tch |
silbe, m_anish: #action get rid of that code and put it somewhere else that allows us to keep track of its status. Requires more discussion (?) |
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lol |
| 20:22 |
m_anish |
#action hack the olpc-kbdshim repo so we can sneak in the patch behind pgf's back ;) |
| 20:22 |
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#action get rid of that code and put it somewhere else that allows us to keep track of its status. Requires more discussion (?) |
| 20:22 |
silbe |
tch: almost. keeping track of the status is independent of where exactly the key handler lives. |
| 20:23 |
m_anish |
#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2586 |
| 20:23 |
silbe |
tch: or let's say we don't need explicit support for querying the status from the new owner. If it happens to already have a DBus interface that's a bonus. |
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m_anish: do you have a screenshot for this feature? |
| 20:24 |
m_anish |
silbe, feedback? yep standby |
| 20:25 |
silbe |
m_anish: the mentioned pop-up in particular |
| 20:25 |
m_anish |
silbe, http://people.sugarlabs.org/anish/feedback.pdf this should have a screenshot |
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I just opened it to have a discussion later on... |
| 20:26 |
tch |
silbe: always we can keep track of the touchpad mode status it will be fine, doesn't matter how really |
| 20:26 |
m_anish |
for one, I cannot copy-paste stuff into the modal window while typing in the report |
| 20:27 |
tch |
m_anish: #2586 same happens with any other modal window |
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m_anish: for the CP I recall there is a hack to avoid that to happen, but yet you can make it happen |
| 20:29 |
m_anish |
tch, if we ever wanna get this upstreamed, we should have garycmartin's input on how it should look :-) |
| 20:29 |
tch |
m_anish: i see, but what is the behaviour you suggest? |
| 20:30 |
silbe |
modal dialogs must die |
| 20:30 |
m_anish |
tch, i'm not sure, what i'm sure is that it is an annoyance to not be able to switch to an activity and not being able to copy paste stuff |
| 20:30 |
silbe |
let's make it an independent full-screen window, like activities and the Journal are |
| 20:31 |
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upstreaming this will definitely get interesting... |
| 20:31 |
m_anish |
silbe, yep :) |
| 20:33 |
tch |
silbe, m_anish: we can try that |
| 20:33 |
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debugging view? |
| 20:33 |
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lol |
| 20:33 |
silbe |
:) |
| 20:33 |
m_anish |
silbe, FWIW, the view source window is modal as well right? what happens when we pop that up, are we able to switch between things or copy/paste if we need to? |
| 20:34 |
silbe |
or maybe we should just make it an activity. |
| 20:34 |
m_anish |
s/between things/between windows |
| 20:34 |
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silbe, or maybe incorporate it in log? |
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separate activity sounds like a nice idea as well |
| 20:36 |
tch |
we could lunch a notification (disabled) to replace the device icon :P |
| 20:36 |
silbe |
m_anish: maybe, yeah. BTW, what exactly is the workflow for the bug reporting feature? Is it always available or only after crashes? |
| 20:36 |
m_anish |
silbe, is this fodder for a design meeting topic ;)? |
| 20:36 |
tch |
otherwise, they will have to open the activity to _guess_ if something wrong has happened |
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and we get into the same situation again, |
| 20:37 |
m_anish |
silbe, there are two things... one is automatic... it sends a crash log when an exception happens... and the other is manually typing in a report and sending it |
| 20:37 |
silbe |
m_anish: depends on your goals. I'd move it to the bottom of the list to avoid a fruitless meeting. :-/ |
| 20:37 |
m_anish |
silbe, hmm, true |
| 20:37 |
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tch, yep, you raise a valid point |
| 20:37 |
silbe |
tch: I guess a better place would be the activity frame icon |
| 20:38 |
tch |
m_anish: when sugar fails, I think is it important that user are noticed about that.. is it important for testing processes, because is not like testers can be pendant of that activity 24/7 |
| 20:38 |
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they are teachers and kids, that needs to be doing other things too |
| 20:39 |
silbe |
m_anish: Christian favours modal dialogs, Gary is OK with them for a few things and I loathe them. So it takes a lot of time to agree to a solution. |
| 20:39 |
m_anish |
tch, silbe there is a discussion about incorporating the 'about' button in the activity, maybe this could be bundled with that |
| 20:39 |
tch |
silbe: that makes sense for activities but about sugar itself? |
| 20:39 |
silbe |
m_anish: only if you want both to fail :) |
| 20:40 |
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m_anish: the About stuff is already controversial, it doesn't make much sense to put anything on top of it |
| 20:40 |
m_anish |
silbe, okay |
| 20:41 |
silbe |
tch: the zoom levels are windows as well. The CP would need to be made a top level window. ;) |
| 20:41 |
m_anish |
i guess i get the feeling that feedback will remain downstream for a while |
| 20:41 |
tch |
m_anish: me too, haha |
| 20:42 |
silbe |
m_anish: I'd expect so, like the system resources indicator. |
| 20:42 |
tch |
silbe: the indicator was the best idea we ever had :( |
| 20:42 |
silbe |
I'll definitely try to upstream it, but not too hard. Let's just prove that our approach is good by doing a field test. |
| 20:43 |
m_anish |
silbe, +1, more backing via positive feedback and impact |
| 20:43 |
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next topic? |
| 20:44 |
silbe |
tch: FGrose did an awesome Feature page for the system resource indicator after we failed to get it upstream this time. Maybe it'll work the the next time (e.g. next year). |
| 20:44 |
m_anish |
#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2610 |
| 20:45 |
tch |
m_anish: guess i can look up to that too |
| 20:45 |
silbe |
sounds like a data store bug to me. |
| 20:45 |
m_anish |
#action tch look into #2610 |
| 20:46 |
silbe |
you might consider updating to upstream sugar-datastore 0.92. |
| 20:46 |
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IIRC you still ship an old version of aa's patch series |
| 20:46 |
tch |
silbe: ill test it and ill probably ask you for help if that is the case :) |
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silbe: yep, for the sort stuff |
| 20:47 |
silbe |
tch: the data store is mostly independent of Sugar, so it should just work. |
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| 20:48 |
tch |
silbe: ok, i will know what happens when i look at it :) |
| 20:49 |
m_anish |
move to next bug? |
| 20:50 |
tch |
+1 |
| 20:50 |
m_anish |
#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2614 |
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this shouldn't be an issue in f14? or we can check anyways? |
| 20:51 |
tch |
well, i already got the 1.5 build I can test it tonight hehe |
| 20:51 |
m_anish |
tch, deme, u and your fast internet :P |
| 20:52 |
tch |
m_anish: faster.. not fast |
| 20:52 |
m_anish |
#action tch check if #2614 issue exists in f14 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2620 |
| 20:52 |
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tch, did you ever hit it again? |
| 20:53 |
tch |
m_anish: nope ;/ guess it should stay open just in case |
| 20:53 |
m_anish |
tch, okay |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2621 |
| 20:54 |
tch |
m_anish: is fixed, but the CP section still shows the wrong layout right? |
| 20:54 |
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silbe: is this fixed upstream? |
| 20:54 |
m_anish |
tch, yep, exactly |
| 20:54 |
silbe |
tch: I don't even know exactly how it gets triggered. |
| 20:55 |
tch |
silbe: no magic at all, you just go there and it always shows Akan, m_anish: right? |
| 20:55 |
m_anish |
silbe, on an xo, just open the keyboard setting section, it will show Akan,Ghana as the default layout, even though it isn't |
| 20:55 |
silbe |
tch: but why? |
| 20:55 |
m_anish |
silbe, its the first entry in the combo box |
| 20:55 |
silbe |
taking a peek |
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m_anish: the question is: Why doesn't it pick up the current layout correctly? |
| 20:56 |
m_anish |
tch, IIRC, similar issue exists with the 3G CP section |
| 20:57 |
tch |
m_anish: you sure? Last time i tested it worked fine |
| 20:57 |
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m_anish: i mean, for the CP section |
| 20:57 |
m_anish |
tch, the problem isn't with what is selected, the problem is with what entry is visible |
| 20:57 |
tch |
m_anish: at my xo 1 shows uruguay which is fine.. because that is the xo layout |
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and at my 1.5 shows united states |
| 20:57 |
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m_anish: regarding CP 3G section ^^ |
| 20:58 |
m_anish |
tch, i'll check some more re: 3G, but i guess we boht agree this exists for Keyboard? |
| 20:58 |
tch |
m_anish: yes |
| 20:58 |
m_anish |
checks on xo1.5 dx2-py build |
| 20:58 |
silbe |
the code looks fine - it returns the gconf setting if there is one and the current XKB setting otherwise. |
| 20:58 |
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extensions/cpsection/keyboard/model.py |
| 20:59 |
m_anish |
for some reason, the keyboard setting section takes 3-4 seconds to open up in the CP as well... on f14 builds it opens instantly |
| 20:59 |
tch |
silbe: why it works for 3G CP seciton then <confused> |
| 20:59 |
silbe |
a bunch of debug prints might help figuring out where it's getting the wrong values from |
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tch: 3G and keyboard don't have anything in common AFAICT |
| 21:00 |
m_anish |
silbe, tch, ah ok... lemme summarize (clear some confusion) |
| 21:00 |
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===Modem config=== |
| 21:01 |
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needs to check some more |
| 21:01 |
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===Keyboard=== |
| 21:01 |
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For the very first time atleast, even if the layout is set to spanish, if we open the keyboard setting CP, it shows as akan, ghana |
| 21:01 |
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tch, is that ok? |
| 21:02 |
tch |
yes |
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| 21:03 |
tch |
flashing my 1.5 XO with silbe's dx3 image :D |
| 21:09 |
m_anish |
ok so next topic :) |
| 21:09 |
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#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2587 |
| 21:09 |
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i guess this is done, can you close this |
| 21:11 |
tch |
ack |
| 21:11 |
m_anish |
#topic http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2589 |
| 21:12 |
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tch, i think this one is a flakey, and while your'e looking at microformat, you could look at this as well :) |
| 21:12 |
tch |
m_anish: i think ill be able to fix it too |
| 21:13 |
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so, basically ill do a surgery to the microformat updater ehehe |
| 21:24 |
m_anish |
tch, deme, got disconnected :(( |
| 21:24 |
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tch, silbe we're out of bugs :) |
| 21:24 |
tch |
dx related* |
| 21:24 |
m_anish |
tch, yep |
| 21:24 |
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(endmeeting for now?) |
| 21:25 |
tch |
m_anish: alsamixer is present |
| 21:25 |
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on f14 dx3 |
| 21:26 |
silbe |
m_anish: cool! time to go to bed then :) |
| 21:26 |
m_anish |
tch, i guess that means endmeeting, lol :D |
| 21:26 |
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#endmeeting |
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