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Meeting started Tue Mar 29 14:16:49 2011 UTC. The chair is SeanDaly. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting |
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walterbender <walterbender!~webchat jita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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walterbender |
SeanDaly: hi |
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SeanDaly |
greets walterbender |
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JT4sugar ? |
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walterbender |
keeps getting dropped on IRC :P |
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JT4sugar |
Hi |
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walterbender |
hi JT4sugar |
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garycmartin_ |
Hi walterbender JT4sugar, IRC is flakey here as well. |
| 14:18 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: sorry about the flurry of confused emails of late re press releases |
| 14:18 |
SeanDaly |
my IRC not flaky but I may be called away for several minutes for a delivery |
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walterbender: I dreamed last night you briefed me.. at a party in Moscow... and I had a 4th kid |
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talk about mixing genres |
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walterbender |
:) |
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SeanDaly |
walterbender: before talking websites, could you recap a little PR things, or is later better? |
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walterbender |
SeanDaly: let me not derail the rest of the meeting |
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satellit_afk |
lurking |
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SeanDaly |
walterbender:ok |
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satellit_afk is now known as satellit_ |
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SeanDaly |
greets satellit_afk |
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greets satellit_ too |
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satellit_ |
: ) |
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SeanDaly |
ok let's talk websites then |
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first main site revamp |
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TuquitosugarVM <TuquitosugarVM!~urk208-100-148-220.bendbroadband.com> has joined #sugar-meeting |
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SeanDaly |
Christian and the RIT students had a workshop ten days ago in NYC |
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Christian prepared a first draft document from their whiteboard and briefed JT4sugar & I on a conf call this morning |
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I will put that PDF up on the wiki asap today |
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walterbender |
looks forward to seeing it |
| 14:23 |
SeanDaly |
as well as the rev Christian will do following this morning's discussion |
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They are doing great work, have conceptualized site layout -> but not pages per se |
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Clear that we will need to locate/generate content - visuals etc., screencam tutorials, ... |
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JT4sugar: anything to add? |
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JT4sugar |
Just sent out workshop summary to group |
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Per Christian key to success is gathering of content |
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SeanDaly |
When we have it up on the wiki I would like to add request for comment to whole Sugar community |
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quite important: key target is teachers, following MarketLab study results |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Good idea to synch with JT&Mike they are planning wiki page to collect content and emails to ask for content |
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SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: yes of course you had told me that |
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now, about timeframe, JT4sugar did we say in time for SugarCamp beginning of May? |
| 14:30 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Idea have Micro-site ready for race then mock-ups or test site to get comments and suggestions at Uruguay summit go live few weeks later |
| 14:31 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: Yes, clearly race is hard deadline |
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I haven't liaised with Garmin-Cervelo PR person yet, wanted more concrete idea of what we are going to do |
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idea from Uruguay to have kids photograph riders, and OLPC/Sugar stands at each stop, sounds great |
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who was contact for that again? |
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Gabriel Eirea I think |
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walterbender |
yes |
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SeanDaly |
and Leticia Romero |
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walterbender |
si |
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SeanDaly |
hopes they speak English or French since I have no Spanish :-( |
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walterbender |
gabriel speaks English |
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SeanDaly |
Gabriel had mentioned a Sugar Labs prize to give out to a lucky kid (or kids)... any ideas? |
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walterbender |
I was going to ask Slipstream for some jerseys |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Should contact Garmin-Cervelo about possible prizes for kids(Jerseys) Help in funding for van of Ceibal RAP Volunteers? |
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SeanDaly |
walterbender: that would be great |
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JT4sugar: yes we can go to them now that there is a proposal |
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wonders if they have jerseys in kid sizes |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Should be enough time for them to have made if don't |
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SeanDaly |
by the way on the side topic of swag which jerseys remind me of, garycmartin is 100% right we should get merchandising going |
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satellit_ |
the jerseys would be nice to be able to purchase for sugar supporters to use to promote sugar also |
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SeanDaly |
I had planned on recruiting a design class prof+students to help with that but didn't get around to it |
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would love to see a t-shirt for each of our star Activities |
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garycmartin_ |
SeanDaly: merchandising seems to not yet be on the www mockups (I just skimmed the pdf) |
| 14:40 |
SeanDaly |
garycmartin: True, because swag not happening yet... really not that hard to get going but I had gotten stuck with choice of 7 online providers for US/Europe/worldwide shipping |
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walterbender |
maybe swag is a local-lab thing |
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SeanDaly |
walterbender: no problem as long as certain marketing codes followed ; e.g. not mixing our trademark with others e.g. "sugarlabs powered by AMI BIOS" |
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satellit_ |
swag from e-bay online store? |
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garycmartin_ |
We should pull together as set of templates for swag that folks can either print locally, or order through something more official. |
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JT4sugar |
garycmartin_, Could Icons you have made up easily be screened on to t-shirts? Or does the formatting need to be changed? |
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SeanDaly |
satellit_: Cafepress? Spreadshirt? Zazzle? Printfection? VistaPrint? |
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garycmartin_ |
JT4sugar: They should work just great. |
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SeanDaly |
SVGs blowuppable to huge ;-) |
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embiggenable |
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garycmartin_ |
JT4sugar: I made a set of mockups with one activity icon in the centre and then the activity name in each language around the edges. |
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SeanDaly |
old thread on this FWIW: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]9-May/001108.html |
| 14:45 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Can we have templates on multiple sites so we get over location shipping-US, Europe,Asia,South America, etc. |
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garycmartin_ |
Plenty of designs we can play with givem all the Sugar artwork and consistent design style. |
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SeanDaly |
garycmartin: on back of shirt could say: a sugarlabs activity" |
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satellit_ |
include wiki link on swag for exposure |
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garycmartin_ |
SeanDaly: yep +1 |
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SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: indeed I had imagined multiple vendors to deal with shipping problem; but I understand quality varies and is not always great... |
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another solution: propose ready-to-go graphics which local labs could get t-shirts done with |
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I really like idea of Activity name in different languages |
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garycmartin_ |
SeanDaly: Perhaps just pick 2 vendors, and make sure the originals are available for folks to get printed locally. |
| 14:48 |
SeanDaly |
garycmartin: +1 |
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ok here's a question re Uruguay race micro-site |
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satellit_ |
I like ready to go graphics...also for bike jerseys? |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Have friends that use Cafepress so know thats good for U.S.-Finding good vendors also good for marketing class project you envision |
| 14:49 |
SeanDaly |
if site content will be articles & photos by kids, Christian suggests using existing infra such as flickr |
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JT4sugar: yes I will hunt down that professor shortlist I had |
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If articles uploaded to existing outside site, our micro-site could just be one page with embedded links to content? |
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in other words Christian worried about building/reinventing wheel for micro-site which will have limited shelf life |
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walterbender |
sounds simple which is good |
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SeanDaly |
other approach as Gabriel suggested I think would be to publish thru an Activity - do we have one which can do that? Portfolio? |
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garycmartin_ |
SeanDaly: Makes sense for photo/video type media (flickr/youtube/dailymotion), but not sure about article page texts. |
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SeanDaly |
garycmartin: good point |
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JT4sugar |
Christian thinking of some kind of template for micro-site that could extend to future events-future bike race stops-other events |
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walterbender |
won't go on a rsant about the need for an upload site |
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SeanDaly |
walterbender: upload site on Christian radar... |
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garycmartin_ |
walterbender: Use some existing CMS? |
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walterbender |
authentification/authorization is the difficult bit |
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no need to discuss it here/now |
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SeanDaly |
garcmartin_: Christian not sure yet, but leaning towards Ruby on Rails |
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JT4sugar |
walterbender, That was discussed with JT & Mike. Gerald said we should have something like Scratch site for kids uploads-they are looking into |
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garycmartin_ |
wonders why the wiki is not right for such a user end goal. |
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walterbender |
JT4sugar: for any activity that want it... |
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SeanDaly |
cf. garycmartin_, why not create Spanish wiki race page on wiki for articles? |
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downside? |
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garycmartin_ |
"for any activity that want it", likes the sound of that. A public drop box for Journal entries. |
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JT4sugar |
walterbender, Not sure yet but Gerald feels missed opportunity to not have portal for kids to engage about their work with Sugar-Needs some discussion |
| 14:57 |
SeanDaly |
it's true that a kid-oriented friendly space would be great... |
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walterbender |
JT4sugar: he and I have been on that same page for a long time |
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SeanDaly |
cf. http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/ |
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or, http://www.sesamestreet.org/ |
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garycmartin_ |
SeanDaly: Back to an online Sugar like experience (could be a much paired down spin on the Sugar design goals). |
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SeanDaly |
so concretely, for UY race micro-site: would it work to have kids (or their teachers) post articles to wiki? |
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garycmartin: yes indeed :D |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Seems like a blog might be better format that way content would be sequential to stops along the way. Chance teachers and kids understand use of blogs better than wiki-Allows text and pictures |
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SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: probably best to ask Gabriel & Leticia handle that then; but we need to know in order to design front page... might be better to "planetize" blog postings so URL stays Sugar Labs? |
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see, idea is to communicate an URL in the PR for the race, e.g. vueltaciclista.sugarlabs.org |
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satellit_ |
could a special upload link on sugar-browse be created to allow kids to upload files to the wiki on a particular page. I notice that the "upload file"link in using the wiki is missing on sugar-browse but is available if firefox is used to access the wiki |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Good question-but if there is a ton of kids and teachers who decide to contribute do we want to overload planet with this content? |
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SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: idea is to dedicate a little planet just for that |
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and best articles get prizes |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Sounds good |
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SeanDaly |
advantage of micro-planet is, hosted wherever Gabriel & Leticia want, even multiple blogs, while maintaining SL URL |
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Kids will likely want to look at their articles after race too :-) |
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if I'm not mistaken this wouldn't be a lot of work on our side... |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, If that is set-up you could have Blog for each locale they stop/go through which feed into Sugar micro-planet |
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SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: we need to brainstorm with Gabriel & Leticia |
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needs to sign off soon... |
| 15:15 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Sounds good just need to ask if they prefer IRC or Skype for brainstorm |
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garycmartin_ |
me too. |
| 15:15 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: do you want to ask them when & how, or shall I? |
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JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, If you could that would be great-I think your schedule is one will need to work around so you might suggest some times |
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SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: OK will do |
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any other topics for now? |
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JT4sugar |
Think were good-Thanks! |
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SeanDaly |
Many thanks JT4sugar, walterbender, garycmartin_, satellit_ |
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counting down.... |
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going once... |
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garycmartin_ |
SeanDaly: Thanks, good productive meeting :-) |
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SeanDaly |
going twice... |
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JT4sugar |
Have A Good Day All! |
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SeanDaly |
sold to the gentleman in the plaid golf suit |
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#endmeeting |
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