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Meeting started Fri Mar 4 23:00:51 2011 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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walterbender |
My apologies for not being able to meet yesterday |
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I had a last-minute glitch in my schedule. |
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But I am glad we have some time to meet today. Thanks. |
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cjb |
howdy |
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walterbender |
hi chris |
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icarito |
yes thanks sorry for not consulting about the time |
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glad you could make it |
| 23:02 |
walterbender |
I was just in MIami. I was supposed to be in Mexico, but due to some unfortunate circumstances, that leg of the trip was postponed. |
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the silver lining was lots of time with erikos, gonzalo and martin |
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we went over some of the OLPC plans for Sugar and did some coding :) |
| 23:03 |
cjb |
:) |
| 23:03 |
walterbender |
and we discussed the need/opportunity for a Sugar Camp. |
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walterbender |
I had been thinking that a Sugar Camp coincident with some of the events in .uy in the coming months would make sense, but after discussing it with Pablo Flores, it may make more sense to aim for Miami, sooner than later. |
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bernie |
is excited at the idea of a sugar camp! |
| 23:05 |
walterbender |
but I want to bring it up here first for general discussion |
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some background: |
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we were going to hold a Sugar Camp in Lima in February, but it never materialized because of a breakdown in communication with DIGITE |
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then Pablo announced the CeibalJam event, 5-7May |
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and it seemed that the AC gang was going to be in .uy around that time. |
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Plus erikos is in the region then. |
| 23:07 |
cjb |
huh. so what's wrong with colocating it with CeibalJam? |
| 23:07 |
walterbender |
hence the potential synergy with a Sugar Camp in .uy |
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alsroot |
cjb: +1 |
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walterbender |
cjb: nothing except it seems that the AC people are not going after all :P |
| 23:08 |
bernie |
I'd be +1 on having everyone in montevideo |
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walterbender |
so if there is a better way to include them, we should discuss it. |
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bernie |
walterbender: i'd go if enough other people go |
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cjb |
walterbender: well, that doesn't have to be a showstopper. and maybe they'd reconsider if they knew that it was *the* SugarCamp event |
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walterbender |
cjb: absolutely not a show-stopper... just a consideration. |
| 23:08 |
cjb |
cool, okay |
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cjb |
I think we should push for it! |
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It sounds like good timing, good location, good excuse for a meetup |
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walterbender |
would love to finally meet alsroot -- can we get him a visa? |
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cjb: a couple of other events include: end of May, Squeakfest in Montevideo |
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cjb |
oh, that would work too |
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walterbender |
and the Tour of Uruguay in late April |
| 23:10 |
cjb |
hm, OLPC has a bringup scheduled early May |
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(and I'd like us to send people, possibly including me) |
| 23:10 |
walterbender |
cjb: that was one reason brought up yesterday for considering something in late March in Miami |
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cjb |
late March seems way too soon for a global meetup |
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sorry I'm jumping in at the last minute and trying to change things though :) |
| 23:11 |
walterbender |
plus there is a mini-learning summit planned for the 24-25th of March. |
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walterbender |
cjb: this all last minute, alas. |
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icarito |
sorry i got dropped out |
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damn |
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cjb |
icarito: try using quassel or something |
| 23:12 |
walterbender |
how about if I send an email to Sugar Devel with a list of possible dates/venues and ask for people to express their preferences in the wiki? |
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cjb |
icarito: it's useless to try and stay on IRC with a flaky connection like that |
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walterbender: that sounds like a good idea |
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walterbender |
and we can pick the combintion that maximizes attendence |
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will CC iaep and dev.laptop.org |
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cjb |
great |
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I'll try to help by getting a clear indication from our hardware team when the Taipei trip is happening |
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unfortunately 5-7 is right in the middle of the current dates |
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but they could slip, or we could try to position SugarCamp before or after CeibalJam to match up |
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walterbender |
we also talked about the sorts of things we might work on together: everything from Python interspection to an Activity sprint. |
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cjb |
the python introspection stuff is really important |
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right now we're stuck on deprecated code (pygtk) that no-one wants to maintain anymore |
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and it's going to get worse quickly over time |
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so I think making that the full focus of the hacking part of the Camp would be a really good use of time |
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icarito |
pygtk is unmantained? |
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cjb |
icarito: deprecated in favor of gobject introspection |
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there is no pygtk for gtk3 |
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walterbender |
IMHO, we would be best served by one of two approaches: a big push into looming problems or an intense effort to bring everything up to date |
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I guess it depends upon who can attend. |
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cjb |
yeah, somewhat |
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walterbender |
but I'll solicit topics too. |
| 23:16 |
cjb |
no need to decide so far ahead of time |
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icarito |
cjb, hmm interesting I did not know that |
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icarito |
gobject instrospection... |
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walterbender |
tomeu and erikos have done some ground work |
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there is other stuff going on too, such as improved collaboration bits we may want to explore |
| 23:17 |
bernie |
walterbender: i'll talk with dfarning about getting all the AC folks to attend the Sugar Camp in Montevideo. many of them are very close |
| 23:17 |
cjb |
having sugar services available via gobject-introspection would also make them usable from other languages |
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like javascript or C |
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walterbender |
cjb: a bit win |
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icarito |
colombia might be a good spot too |
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strategically speaking |
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bernie |
cjb: they'd have to be rewritten in C or vala, though |
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icarito |
rodrigo arboleda announced a project for 4.5 million laptops |
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alsroot |
cjb: you mean <python code>-<introspection>-<*>? |
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icarito |
might not materialize but there's lot of momentum |
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dirakx |
it would be nice to have a gobject-intronspection migration plan. |
| 23:18 |
cjb |
alsroot: yeah, that's what I meant. I don't know much about it yet though. |
| 23:19 |
bernie |
cjb: as far as i understand, the pygi work was intended to do the opposite: make sugar bind to gtk/gnome libs without any specific bindings. |
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cjb |
should we talk about possibilities for travel sponsorship? |
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icarito |
sugar api accesible from javascript would be a hit ;-) |
| 23:19 |
bernie |
i would definitely need sponsorship either from AC or Sugar Labs. |
| 23:20 |
walterbender |
cjb: yes... |
| 23:20 |
icarito |
yes me too |
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walterbender |
cjb: I'll push on several fronts... but SL hasn't got much in terms of discretionary funds :( |
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alsroot |
cjb: hmm, not sure how python UI code might be used in other palces, ie, for that case I started working on polyol(vala, and introspection, surar-toolkit) |
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cjb |
yeah |
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we could encourage individual donations for travel sponsorship |
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walterbender |
but I bet we could get the various LA deployments to send people. |
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and maybe kick in to support a few of the far-flung developers. |
| 23:21 |
bernie |
cjb: +1 |
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icarito |
there's campus party big event in bogota in end of june |
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http://www.campus-party.com.co[…]11/el-evento.html |
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cjb |
I'm happy to ask people at OLPC to consider donating for travel sponsorship, though I guess I'm not very optimistic. :) (If we're sending a few people I think that makes it more possible than if we aren't.) |
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icarito |
we already have participation, they would be open to host a sugar camp |
| 23:23 |
cjb |
if it's phrased as a conference fee for people who have jobs, that would be interesting |
| 23:23 |
icarito |
cjb, CanoeBerry is good at that |
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cjb |
like, if you benefit from Sugar professionally then there's a suggested donation |
| 23:23 |
icarito |
i was amazed at what they accomplished for SF |
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cjb |
yeah, good point |
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icarito |
VISA is a barrier for latam participation in USA events |
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and language of course |
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walterbender |
icarito: we should add that(el evento) for a possible date/venue on the wiki page I will make. |
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cjb |
so it seems like the important thing is simply to announce that we want to have a SugarCamp sometime around April-June |
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hopefully everything else will work itself out from there :) |
| 23:25 |
walterbender |
we should be able to get LATU to help us vis-a-vis any visa issues. (try saying that aloud 3 times) |
| 23:25 |
icarito |
here's what I mentioned about rodrigo http://ht.ly/423rh |
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walterbender, if we want to have participation from peru (that would be interesting, from a pedagogical pov i think) i guess the only way is doing it there |
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but i'm seeing that our goals for a SC are more technical |
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cjb |
icarito: my Spanish is terrible, but it looks like that's a proposal rather than something that's actually been funded |
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icarito |
like we need to sprint |
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cjb |
yeah |
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my feeling is that we need a lot of technical work this time |
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walterbender |
cjb: yes... I think SC should be focused on coding... |
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icarito |
cjb, yes but there's lots of activity lately here because the president announced each child would get a laptop |
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cjb |
I understand that it's great to have educators at events too |
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icarito |
cjb, the question is which brand |
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walterbender |
but the good news is that we may get some pointed feedback at the end of March at the mini-learning summit |
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cjb |
but yeah, at this point we're behind on technical work the rest of our platform's done and we need to catch up |
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that's good |
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icarito |
walterbender, mini learning summit? |
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walterbender |
we hope to have representatives from the learning teams from .uy, .py, .pe, .ni... |
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bernie |
.it |
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icarito |
where? |
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walterbender |
icarito: still in the early planning stages: Miami, end of March |
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icarito: a focus on evaluation |
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icarito: I think that Claudia may have discussed it in Wednesday's learning chat (that I missed due to airplanes) |
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icarito |
walterbender, cjb the Campus Party is a technical event, if we did it then, i'm sure we could sprint our minds off and even recruit some help |
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cjb |
icarito: yep, maybe. it looks huge, I think I would get too distracted to concentrate on Sugar code :) |
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icarito |
this would position sugar labs even more strongly in colombia, which i feel is one of our strongholds |
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colomia is strategically located in the middle between miami and uy/pe |
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dirakx, what do you think about campus party for hosting a sugar camp? |
| 23:32 |
cjb |
that's true, though we shouldn't necessarily pick a SC location based on what's convenient to selling XOs |
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walterbender |
well, let's lay out the choices and see what we can come up with in terms of attendence. |
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dirakx |
icarito. not agree. campusparty is more like a comercial event of telefonica. inmho. |
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walterbender |
#action: Walter will make a webpage later tonight to spell out the Sugar Camp options |
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dirakx: but maybe telefonica will sponsor the Sugar Camp... worth asking |
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icarito |
dirakx, they already are sponsoring my workshop of Turtle Art |
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dirakx |
walterbender: that's what i was thinking..maybe fundacion telefonica would be interested. |
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walterbender |
icarito: cool |
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icarito |
dirakx, and they sponsored a workshop last year too for SL Co |
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walterbender |
icarito: v107 will be landing soon :P |
| 23:34 |
icarito |
that's where we recruited iguana |
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dirakx |
ok ;) |
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icarito |
iguana is Fabian Prieto, a very avid history major who was in charge of a SOAS deployment |
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walterbender, ok lets discuss this in the ML |
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walterbender |
OK. |
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any other topics for this evening? |
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icarito: do you have an update re certification programs? |
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and maybe we can chat for a few minutes about i18n? |
| 23:38 |
icarito |
only that SL Chile has contributed some documentation about training they did |
| 23:38 |
cjb |
I was just going to mention the realization I've had on how important it is that we get over to gobject-introspection and gtk3, but I did that earlier :) |
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oh, also -- multitouch support is only in gtk3, not gtk2 |
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so that's important for OLPC :) |
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(but I think there are very strong reasons for SL to do the introspection thing regardless of multitouch/OLPC) |
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icarito |
cjb, do you mean really there won't be gtk for python in v3? I don't believe it! |
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walterbender, certification has been well received but nothing has been established yet |
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icarito |
#action icarito will write a wiki page on Local Labs / Certification programme and continue the discusion on sur@+IAEP |
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bernie |
cjb: if we do keep around a backwards compatible sugar-toolkit, the transition won't be too traumatic |
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cjb |
icarito: pygtk.org says that new applications should no longer be written using pygtk. |
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walterbender |
re i18n, did anyone have any thought about how we can shore up our Pootle support? |
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bernie |
cjb: i think it's very easy to do if we rename the gtk3 sugar toolkit |
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cjb |
icarito: but instead pygobject. |
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icarito |
cjb, bernie how do you see something like Titanium Appcelerator? |
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cjb |
icarito: I think HTML5+JS looks much better |
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bernie |
icarito: what is it? |
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walterbender |
Chris Leonard's email was an eye-opener |
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cjb |
bernie: sure |
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icarito |
its an API / dev / deployment tool |
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you write your app in HTML + JS + optionally Python/Ruby/PHP |
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cjb |
bernie: it's a crossplatform toolkit like wxWindows but it targets web pages as well |
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icarito |
it deploys a Desktop App in Mac/Windows/GNU |
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bernie |
cjb: i see... like qt |
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cjb |
bernie: yeah, like Qt with a web backend |
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icarito |
bernie, not really |
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its more like Prism on steroids |
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bernie |
cjb: ah you mean *real* web pages |
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cjb |
bernie: yes, rich webapps |
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icarito |
provides a common API for desktop items such as traybar |
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bernie, the latest Status.net desktop app is built with it |
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and its free software |
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i've found it pretty cool as I'm hacking on a status.net desktop client |
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provides the view source functionality cscott was asking for |
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icarito |
i would really like to see a sugar compatible api and dev tools like that |
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bernie |
icarito: so, i don't know this particular framework, but introducing new toolkits in sugar is problematic... we'd have to keep around the old toolkit for years to support the existing 200+ activities |
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icarito |
i know i'm dreaming |
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bernie, actually it's pretty much just webkit + glue code |
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bernie |
icarito: besides, it's not going to happen unless someone steps forward to do the work. some time ago it seemed that nokia wanted us to introduce qt support in sugar, but then the deal did not happen. |
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icarito |
but i have no code to show for it so i'll drop it for now |
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walterbender |
sorry. I managed to lose my network connection :( |
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bernie |
icarito: if you come up with something that could be bundled and used to write new activities, some developers could use it. if it becomes popular, then it could be standardized later on |
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icarito |
bernie, you should really look at it what I like is you can have <script language="python"> |
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ok then so we should dicuss i18n |
| 23:50 |
bernie |
icarito: my friend torello did some work to port Mono (C#) applications to Sugar. he rewrote some of the classes in sugar-toolkit, including the toolbar and journal interface. |
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icarito |
i understand we are at a bit of a crisis? |
| 23:50 |
walterbender |
icarito: it seems to be the case... |
| 23:51 |
icarito |
bernie, ah yes i remember that, i cringed at the thought of .net sugar apps :-D |
| 23:51 |
walterbender |
wearing my activity developer hat, I cannot seem to figure out how to get new strings into Pootle any more... the auto-magic is not happening |
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alsroot |
bernie: btw, GC use C sugar-toolkit in for UI+Journal+TP |
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icarito |
alsroot, GC? |
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alsroot |
icarito: GCompris |
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C is much more portable then C# |
| 23:53 |
icarito |
if we could have a JS sugar API then perhaps porting activities to android, etc would be closer to happening, as well as targeting the web |
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alsroot, bernie cjb , what would be a way to call the sugar api from JS, so I can go on researching myself? |
| 23:54 |
alsroot |
icarito: actually, we need to split UI and non-UI parts, non-UI code (how its done in polyol) is just pure C code +, eg, tp calls |
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for UI code, in polyol it is gtk C code |
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icarito |
i'm sorry i think we're not on topic - alsroot tp calls? sorry i'm not 100% on abbreviations |
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alsroot |
icarito: telepathy |
| 23:55 |
icarito |
ah |
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i read some cool docs from lucian on "Webified" on the wiki |
| 23:55 |
alsroot |
after switching from PS, tp wrappers are more useful to have in sugar lib |
| 23:57 |
icarito |
alsroot, so sorry again - PS? |
| 23:57 |
bernie |
alsroot: is the toolkit available as a separate library? |
| 23:57 |
alsroot |
icarito: presence-service, that is being deprecated in 0.90+ |
| 23:57 |
bernie |
hmm i feel that we got way too technical for a slobs meeting :-) |
| 23:57 |
cjb |
icarito: there are gobject-introspection bindings for js |
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icarito |
yes and we still should discuss i18n |
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alsroot |
bernie: there are ds,ui,collab,shell libs |
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bernie |
alsroot: deprecated or removed? |
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cjb |
icarito: e.g. http://live.gnome.org/Gjs/ |
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icarito |
cjb, thanks for the pointers |
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bernie |
alsroot: i thought we weren't running the PS process any more |
| 23:58 |
alsroot |
bernie: afaik, etoys still needs it (and polyol as well, but I'm planing to add non-ps backend to it) |
| 23:58 |
cjb |
bernie: I think we'd just end up with some "Sugar1" activities and some "Sugar2" activities, if we do an ambitious rewrite |
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bernie: it works okay for e.g. Android :) |
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bernie |
cjb: i think it's the cheapest way to evolve the platform it as long as the dependencies are relatively flat |
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walterbender |
seems we are off topic for SLOBs... and it is 7PM EST, so let's end meeting and continue the technical discussion in #sugar?? |
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alsroot |
cjb: -1 for "rewrite" activigties, ie, for sugar should not be tied to only one lang,frmawork,etc. if will say "use what you prefer", it should be more sugar way |
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bernie |
cjb: that is, as long as there's only one big api rather than an intricate web of interdependent apis |
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walterbender: ok. shall we discuss the website? |
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walterbender |
bernie: we have a call on Tuesday, I think |
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icarito |
bernie, that's what I like about TA (Titanium Appcelerator) you have a single api from JS, python, ruby and PHP |
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bernie |
walterbender: ah ok. great :) |
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icarito |
walterbender, ok what about i18n? |
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walterbender |
bernie: so we'll hopefully have something tangible to discuss. |
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icarito |
how can we improve the situation |
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i feel this is urgent, sorry to have brought the dicsussion so technical |
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walterbender |
icarito: at the basic level, we need to find someone with some technical chops who is willing to take it on |
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icarito |
for instance we'd like to complete the AY and QU translations and integrate them |
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walterbender |
icarito: I don't think it involves a lot of programming, but solid technical adminsitration skills |
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cjb |
alsroot: I don't understand. You're saying that people should use whatever language they prefer, but that we shouldn't rewrite anything? Those are contradictory. |
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walterbender |
bernie: is that your take? |
| 00:02 |
bernie |
icarito: i'd like to try it out, just out of curiosity |
| 00:03 |
alsroot |
cjb: I got your "reqwrite" for rewriting activities from python to whatever.. |
| 00:03 |
cjb |
alsroot: yeah |
| 00:04 |
icarito |
ok so should we bring the i18n crisis up on the ML? |
| 00:04 |
bernie |
walterbender: sometimes i've seen translations made with SSI (server side includes). it has the advantage of keeping the html free of code |
| 00:04 |
alsroot |
cjb: I mean, if people like something different from python and will to rewrite activities, it is ok, but we need to call "lets rewire sugar in.." but "lets add .. support" |
| 00:05 |
walterbender |
icarito: did cjl's email go to the lists or just SLOBs? |
| 00:05 |
alsroot |
s/but we need to/but we don't need to/ |
| 00:05 |
bernie |
walterbender: if translation demands us to use anything more than plain html, then we'd better switch to a CMS |
| 00:05 |
dirakx |
we are working in a new VM to do a pootle upgrade/migration to latest pootle/translatetoolkit/django, I hope that improves things. |
| 00:05 |
icarito |
walterbender, i think it went to slobs members directly |
| 00:05 |
bernie |
walterbender: dogi wanted to use pootle for translations, but that would require switching to gettext... i don't think it's feasible |
| 00:05 |
walterbender |
bernie: I think our immediate problem is i18n for Sugar and Sugar activities |
| 00:05 |
icarito |
dirakx, I'd like to help with that |
| 00:05 |
walterbender |
bernie: but if we can address the website at the same time, all the better |
| 00:06 |
JT_4sugar |
bernie, Website call 12pm EST Tues March 8th on Skype Anyone else we should have on call? On call-myself, Sean, Walter, Christian Marc, Marc-Seso, Prof. Jacobs and student, Gary Martin? |
| 00:06 |
icarito |
can we plan an action for i18n? |
| 00:06 |
CanoeBerry |
ironically i just missed the last hour as CeibalJAM etc just explained to me the details of their SugarCamp++ May 5-7 |
| 00:06 |
icarito |
this shouldnt go without one |
| 00:06 |
dirakx |
but i guess that we should also ask for suggestions about how to improve..workflow somewaht. |
| 00:06 |
icarito |
dirakx, +1 |
| 00:06 |
bernie |
walterbender: ah, you mean plain Pootle administration? we met sayamindu last week, who helped me and dirakx fix a problem in the old pootle |
| 00:06 |
cjb |
CanoeBerry: do you think we should try to schedule a SugarCamp alongside it? |
| 00:06 |
bernie |
walterbender: i'm not sure what the current status is... dirakx would know better |
| 00:06 |
CanoeBerry |
that's CeibalJAM's plan |
| 00:06 |
dirakx |
old pootle is working with some minor glitches... |
| 00:07 |
cjb |
it's really inconvenient for OLPC engineering but it otherwise seems like a good idea |
| 00:07 |
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CanoeBerry: shouldn't it be.. our plan? |
| 00:07 |
dirakx |
I've been working with cjl to fix bad areas. |
| 00:07 |
CanoeBerry |
yes |
| 00:07 |
cjb |
I mean, a SugarCamp run by Sugar Labs |
| 00:07 |
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okay. so it sounds like I should just work on trying to get us to not be in Taipei around May 5th. |
| 00:08 |
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which currently seems fairly impossible to avoid, but stranger things have happened. |
| 00:08 |
dirakx |
but i haven't seen cjl email..so his complaints maybe both technicall and about workflow. |
| 00:08 |
walterbender |
alas, I need to disappear in a minute. Am I the one who has to end meeting or can it be done by anyone now? |
| 00:08 |
cjb |
walterbender: I think you'd better do it, we're about done anyway |
| 00:08 |
icarito |
also everybody I'd like to announce to SLOBS that I got hired on a probationary basis by AC this month for working with dirakx on activities |
| 00:08 |
walterbender |
dirakx: I will ask cjl to send his email to sugar-devel |
| 00:08 |
dirakx |
walterbender: great. |
| 00:08 |
icarito |
great |
| 00:08 |
walterbender |
but there is at a minimum a workflow issue |
| 00:09 |
CanoeBerry |
announcement of May 5-7 will be tomorrow -- i'm trying to get a draft of the announcement we / SLOBs / other can look over |
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dirakx |
anyway..we are having hands on it. |
| 00:09 |
walterbender |
dirakx: great. |
| 00:09 |
bernie |
dirakx: what email? |
| 00:09 |
walterbender |
OK. I am sorry, but my family is calling... |
| 00:09 |
cjb |
icarito: cool, congrats. |
| 00:09 |
walterbender |
bernie: the email from Chris Leonard about i18n |
| 00:09 |
dirakx |
bernie: a cjl email to SLOBS. |
| 00:09 |
walterbender |
so I need to end meeting... |
| 00:09 |
bernie |
walterbender: i must have missed it |
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walterbender |
#end-meeting |
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