| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:05 | SeanDaly | we may be joined by David Han who has been working with Caroline |
| 10:06 | RonF | HOw is your trip goinbg, Sean? |
| 10:07 | SeanDaly | RonF: I'm back (Brussels roundtrip was quick ;-) |
| 10:07 | anything to add/modify in agenda today? | |
| 10:08 | JT4sugar | How did Paris presentation go? Any developments come from meeting? |
| 10:08 | SeanDaly | perhaps we should jump in |
| 10:08 | first off: Paris debrief | |
| 10:08 | A great day | |
| 10:09 | L'Atelier will publish online video of my prez as well as those of Lionel of OLPC France and bastien roundtable with educators | |
| 10:10 | RonF | :o) |
| 10:10 | SeanDaly | all in French of course, but I will work on English version of my slides - they can be useful for other marketers |
| 10:10 | i made half a dozen very interesting contacts | |
| 10:11 | coverage in French press, l'Atelier will summarize | |
| 10:11 | I haven't even had time to look myself :-) | |
| 10:11 | I led a workshop on e-books, difficult since no Internet access | |
| 10:11 | but very interesting nonetheless | |
| 10:12 | ok maybe I can brief you quickly on trademark status | |
| 10:12 | RonF | no citywide 3G? or no budget for it? |
| 10:12 | SeanDaly | RonF: you mean in Paris? |
| 10:13 | RonF | in Paris |
| 10:13 | SeanDaly | We were in basement of a massive bank building |
| 10:13 | RonF | ok |
| 10:13 | SeanDaly | and they haven't wanted to have a wireless network connected to the Net for security reasons |
| 10:13 | RonF | indeed |
| 10:14 | SeanDaly | also 3G not yet operational on Sugar :-) |
| 10:14 | RonF | you can get 3G/WiFi adapters |
| 10:14 | I forget the cute names for it | |
| 10:14 | SeanDaly | trademark: the Oversight Board working on trademark policy, I'm lead on that since it's a marketing thing |
| 10:16 | there were a couple of objections to SL vetting license requests, coming I think from confusion between copyright & trademark | |
| 10:16 | my position is we need to vet license requests and accord icenses for defined period say 1 year | |
| 10:17 | Chris Ball and a couple of others believe license granting should be automatic like the GPL | |
| 10:17 | Walter has asked Chris & I to try to find consensus on a position | |
| 10:18 | i hope this is possible, because if we can't deploy a policy which will build the brand there's no point in doing it | |
| 10:18 | JT4sugar | Automatic after online application filled out and electronically checked? |
| 10:18 | SeanDaly | info on the discussion on the last several SLOBs meeting minutes (in wiki) |
| 10:19 | JT4sugar: yes, they seem to think a functioning e-mail is all the checking we should do | |
| 10:19 | RonF | what is value of licensing if you cannot vet granting it? |
| 10:19 | I guess you have right to sue for abriigation of terms anyway | |
| 10:19 | SeanDaly | RonF: I agree, trademark much more fragile than FLOSS copyright |
| 10:20 | remember the GPL accords rights through a license without click-through or application vetting | |
| 10:21 | RonF | yeah, but it is not very muscular without lawsuits foir abrogations |
| 10:21 | SeanDaly | RonF: yes of course we can sue but our legal resources limited and litigation always wasteful & distracting, so my approach is to build licensing tough enough that nobody dares to sue |
| 10:22 | in other words, if license was vetted and breach of license easy to prove, the SFC (SL legal eagles) will have open-and-shut case | |
| 10:22 | RonF | I am confused: I thought you meant licensing the Suagr names to third parties |
| 10:22 | SeanDaly | RonF: that's what I'm talking about all right |
| 10:22 | RonF | ok |
| 10:22 | JT4sugar | There is a difference between an email and a well drawn out electronic application which if designed well can capture needed info and hold parties to core principles |
| 10:22 | SeanDaly | I want a labelling program modelled on Dolby and Intel: 'sweetened with Sugar' or similar (we need to finalize phrase) |
| 10:23 | JT4sugar: my position exactly | |
| 10:23 | I feel we should do what is possible to encourage ecosystem partners out of contact to enter into contact with SL | |
| 10:24 | I need to find the time to reread and possibly rewrite policy draft | |
| 10:24 | RonF | what sort of licensing parties do you envision? integrators? hardware makers? others? |
| 10:25 | SeanDaly | Yes, OEMs, other FLOSS projects, Sugar support for schools |
| 10:25 | one question is, should we ever charge for licenses | |
| 10:25 | I feel we should charge small amounts per unit from OEMs | |
| 10:25 | JT4sugar | I think it can be automatic but application should be designed to give us a responsible amount of authority to hold parties to a hign level of quality when using SL name |
| 10:25 | SeanDaly | could be a decent revenue stream |
| 10:26 | but I don't feel strongly about it | |
| 10:26 | JT4sugar: the problem is, anyting automatic basically means no vetting beyond a functioning e-mail | |
| 10:26 | RonF | I don't know the economics of licensing as a professional |
| 10:27 | SeanDaly | RonF: it made Ray Dolby very rich, and the "Intel inside" label policy considered one of the great "ingredient marketing" strategies of all time |
| 10:27 | RonF: I can send you a link to my post on that | |
| 10:28 | RonF | Dare I ask this? How string is your brand name now? |
| 10:28 | JT4sugar | But if its automatic and they agree to certain precepts by checking yes then doesn't that give needed leverage to hold them to their word? |
| 10:28 | RonF | i->o |
| 10:28 | SeanDaly | RonF: not strong, to be sure |
| 10:29 | but no budget for market studies either | |
| 10:29 | as far as I reckon, | |
| 10:29 | the strongest brand in the OLPC-Sugar ecosystem is the OLPC laptop itself | |
| 10:29 | RonF | How much IP does SL have other than its brands (patents, trade secrets, etc) |
| 10:29 | It is open source, right? | |
| 10:30 | SeanDaly | over many conversations with educators, majority have heard of "$100 laptop for kids with crank" |
| 10:30 | over many conversations with educators, majority have heard of "$100 laptop for kids with crank" | |
| 10:30 | RonF | $!00 - that is good to hear |
| 10:31 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: u didn't miss I reposted |
| 10:31 | RonF: my point is the perception is off: it's $188 or so, and no crank | |
| 10:31 | RonF | anyway, that is why I wanted sugar caled OLPC juice |
| 10:31 | SeanDaly | but the image has very high assisted recognition as far as I can tell |
| 10:32 | RonF | you saw my page on Google hits for various terms &* equivocations, right |
| 10:32 | SeanDaly | RonF: in FLOSS world "intellectual property" phrase often treated with suspicion |
| 10:32 | no patents or trade secrets | |
| 10:32 | RonF | <-- used to be corporate scientist <G> |
| 10:32 | SeanDaly | software is GPL |
| 10:33 | brand has no policy (yet), why I want one :D | |
| 10:33 | JT4sugar | Maybe we should go for a compromise which could be for next 6 months we will vet by hand while we create a Partner friendly application that can foster a wider ecosystem and make working with SL streamlined |
| 10:33 | SeanDaly | RonF: yes in fact we've done work on that |
| 10:34 | JT4sugar: I have my doubts it can ever be automatic, unless we have thousands of deployments and much beefier legal resources | |
| 10:34 | JT4sugar: have you seen the wiki page with list of scenarios? | |
| 10:35 | JT4sugar | Yes, If not automatic what kind of turnaround time do you see if vetting by hand? Who will do? Each Friday at SLOB mtg? |
| 10:36 | SeanDaly | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]mark_case_studies |
| 10:37 | JT4sugar: I think based on typology: quick for FLOSS projects, deliberated for OEMs or large commercial partners | |
| 10:37 | I can't think of a good reason for a licensee not to be in contact with us.. we need to know where our deployments are | |
| 10:37 | JT4sugar | Having read some of the threads it just seems that some feel it can be done automatically, but I understand you feel that is a little loose for a brand that is still in a fragile state |
| 10:38 | RonF | What would vetting criteria be? |
| 10:38 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: brands are always fragile |
| 10:38 | JT4sugar | Yes |
| 10:38 | SeanDaly | just look at Toyota |
| 10:38 | RonF | No articles in the National Inquirer? <G> |
| 10:38 | SeanDaly | 30 years of reputation for reliability down the drain |
| 10:38 | greetings sdziallas | |
| 10:39 | RonF | hello sdziallas |
| 10:39 | sdziallas | hi all! |
| 10:39 | SeanDaly | FLOSS world has few examples of successful branding, we need to invent one |
| 10:39 | sdziallas | (sorry for being late, school lasted long today) |
| 10:40 | SeanDaly | easy to create policy that fails, but hard to create one which succeeds |
| 10:41 | ok can we talk about OLPC-A a bit? | |
| 10:41 | RonF | what is that? |
| 10:41 | SeanDaly | As I said on the list i am in contact with Rodrigo, head of the OLPC Association in Miami |
| 10:41 | OLPC recently split into 2 parts | |
| 10:41 | RonF | oh! |
| 10:42 | SeanDaly | OLPC Foundation is N. Negroponte, based in Boston, does XO development / think tank / fundraising |
| 10:42 | OLPC Association based in Miami does sales & service for deployments, particularly large Latin America sales | |
| 10:42 | JT4sugar | What are their key marketing goals, needs per Rodrigo |
| 10:43 | SeanDaly | UY, PE |
| 10:43 | and now AR | |
| 10:43 | JT4sugar: i was surprised to learn that in fact they "subcontract" their marketing & PR to outside firms which donate time (or under book rate) | |
| 10:44 | JT4sugar | Hasn't OLPC been doing that entire time? |
| 10:44 | SeanDaly | So my idea is to step up, lay out SL marketing strategy & goals, and see what fits are possible |
| 10:45 | JT4sugar: yes... which sort of explains the drubbing they've had in the tech press, while getting great coverage in mainstream media - their PR partners don't really know tech industry | |
| 10:45 | but, have ggreat mainstream media reach | |
| 10:46 | keep in mind that although our marketing/PR goals are aligned, and coincident in many ways, there are important differences too | |
| 10:46 | One key difference is that we aspire to be universal, while OLPC targets developing nations | |
| 10:46 | greets dogi | |
| 10:46 | RonF | does mainstream appeal really drive educational acquisitions? |
| 10:46 | dogi | hi SeanDaly |
| 10:47 | RonF | or does ed press appeal do that? |
| 10:47 | hello dogi | |
| 10:47 | SeanDaly | RonF: we (SL) are not reaching teachers |
| 10:47 | i don't know what OLPC has been doing to reach teachers | |
| 10:48 | But, most teachers I have met have heard of OLPC (without naming it), thru mainstream media | |
| 10:48 | RonF | teachers do not buy - but school tech guys do |
| 10:48 | dogi | waves RonF |
| 10:48 | JT4sugar | It may help to reach out to their PR partners to see what direction they are headed and then see if you can weave some of that into the Grand Vision for SL-leverage Sugar's use in deployments |
| 10:48 | RonF | do they follwo specialty ed shows & press or mainstream tech? |
| 10:48 | SeanDaly | RonF: clearly, which is why I worked urgently on tech press perceptions upon arrival a year ago |
| 10:48 | RonF: you mean OLPC? | |
| 10:49 | RonF | any ed tech |
| 10:49 | SeanDaly | What i'd like to do is 1) raise funds and 2) buy advertising in teacher magazines |
| 10:49 | RonF | how do school systems decide what to buy/deploy? |
| 10:49 | SeanDaly | RonF: not sure who you mean by "they" |
| 10:49 | RonF | school systems |
| 10:50 | SeanDaly | RonF: an excellent resource is Christopher Dawson's blog on ZDNet |
| 10:50 | RonF | I will take a look at it |
| 10:50 | SeanDaly | School buyers generally buy commodity WIndows, some GNU/Linux servers, and specialized ed tech such as Blackboard |
| 10:51 | RonF | In other words "nobody gets fired by buying the 'usual' stuff" thinking |
| 10:52 | walterbender | hi... am I off by an hour? |
| 10:52 | RonF | How did APple lose the ed market a decade ago? |
| 10:52 | SeanDaly | RonF: sure |
| 10:52 | walterbender | reading backlog |
| 10:52 | SeanDaly | walterbender: only 50 minutes (no big deal) |
| 10:52 | RonF: in a word, price | |
| 10:53 | And, cheap software offer richer on PC/Win than Apple | |
| 10:53 | And, specialty hardware such as Blackboard Windows-only | |
| 10:53 | C. Dawson blog: http://education.zdnet.com/ | |
| 10:53 | RonF | Were schools sophisticated about TCO analysis like corporations? |
| 10:54 | SeanDaly | RonF: I imagine so, but keep in mind they often have limited budgets, need to support older systems, hodgepodge of hardware, and training a big problem |
| 10:55 | RonF | What did you think of the e-mail pitch for sugar I sent you SeanDaly? |
| 10:55 | Was it off base? | |
| 10:55 | SeanDaly | RonF: you mean changing the name? |
| 10:55 | RonF | no |
| 10:55 | I sent a set of bullet points for selling sugar | |
| 10:56 | SeanDaly | Generally speaking best to post to list, for open discussion... |
| 10:56 | RonF: have to catch up with that one sorry | |
| 10:56 | RonF | Ok, if you want to be THAT open |
| 10:56 | it was dated Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:02 AM | |
| 10:56 | titled" Sugar Labs - marketing team - The Sugar Gospel? | |
| 10:57 | SeanDaly | I started out not wanting to be that open, but there is a very great advantage in doing so: you reduce risk of being accused of backroom deals |
| 10:57 | RonF: OK wiill read & respond | |
| 10:57 | anyway, back to OLPC-A if we can | |
| 10:57 | the idea is to do a media launch of XO-1.5 | |
| 10:57 | Key for us: a newer version of Sugar is on it | |
| 10:58 | this will kill 5 birds with 1 stone | |
| 10:58 | OLPC & SL in conflict -> false | |
| 10:58 | OLPC XOs run Windows -> hardly any | |
| 10:59 | SL petering out -> SL alive & kicking (in fact we have made great progress on this with SoaS launches) | |
| 11:00 | OLPC doing vaporware -> OLPC delivering hundreds of thousands of innovative laptops to kids in debeloping countries | |
| 11:00 | s/debeloping/developing | |
| 11:00 | Argentina news is very exciting | |
| 11:00 | especially following Intel Classmate order | |
| 11:01 | My understanding is that the Classmate is more for high school students there, and XOs for primary | |
| 11:01 | RonF | Will new Sugar versions remain compatible with XO-1? |
| 11:01 | SeanDaly | We will be briefed by OLPC-A sales people |
| 11:02 | RonF: a simple question with complex answer | |
| 11:03 | As far as I know, work has been done by martin Langhoff and others to backport Fedora v11/Sugar v0.84 to XO-1 | |
| 11:03 | reminder, XO-1 is still Fedora v9 / Sugar v0.82 | |
| 11:03 | in comparison, SoaS Blueberry is Fedora 12 / Sugar v0.86 | |
| 11:04 | XO-1.5 is Fedora v11 / Sugar v0.84 I think (need to check again so I don't say nonsense in PR) | |
| 11:04 | cjb | SeanDaly: that's right |
| 11:04 | JT4sugar | What is timeframe of release? If backport ready would it be good to announce XO 1.5 and Upgrade ready for XO-1 at same time? |
| 11:04 | SeanDaly | XO-1.5 has very interesting new functionality: dual-desktop with Gnome |
| 11:05 | cjb | Peru's still on Fedora 7, even. Deployments really don't like upgrading. |
| 11:05 | SeanDaly | thanks cjb |
| 11:05 | RonF | If it ain't broke... |
| 11:05 | SeanDaly | cjb: understandably difficult... known bugs & limitations often preferable to unknown |
| 11:05 | cjb | It took a very long time -- more than a year -- to get Uruguay to upgrade to the Fedora 9 release, and (unlike Peru) they have internet connectivity to almost every school |
| 11:06 | SeanDaly | I have kept 2 of my purchased XO-1s at old builds for testing |
| 11:06 | cjb: i'm curious, what do you think is key obstacle? | |
| 11:07 | cjb | for Peru, the obstacle is simply getting the update to the laptops |
| 11:07 | SeanDaly | the last-meter transfer |
| 11:07 | cjb | some of these cities literally take three weeks to get to, using the fastest means of transportation available |
| 11:07 | (a slow/big truck) | |
| 11:07 | and they don't have connectivity | |
| 11:08 | so performing an upgrade costs Peru an enormous amount of money. Uruguay's tiny and well-connected (only 2 million people in the whole country), so much less of a technical barrier | |
| 11:08 | SeanDaly | i was at OLPC France meeting last night and they described how boxes of XOs arrived in Nosy Komba (madagascar) by pirogue... "don't drop that bow in the water" |
| 11:08 | cjb | for them, they'd made extension customizations to our build that they had to re-do for F11 |
| 11:08 | SeanDaly | s/bow/box |
| 11:08 | cjb | and they'd printed paper manuals showing Sugar's old home screen which were no longer relevant |
| 11:08 | both of which made it expensive for them to upgrade too | |
| 11:09 | JT4sugar | cjb, Does that mean USB stick upgrade by hand one by one? |
| 11:09 | cjb | JT4sugar: pretty much |
| 11:09 | SeanDaly | cjb: it took me some time to understand just how much work it is to adapt a distro+desktop to hardware |
| 11:09 | cjb | JT4sugar: you could do it one school at a time using a school server, if you had one of those |
| 11:09 | but they mostly don't have those either, again unlike Uruguay | |
| 11:10 | SeanDaly | cjb: among topics for marketing cooperation with OLPC-A will be supplying them with up-to-date screenshots for reprinting & distribution |
| 11:10 | RonF | I have not followed sugar evolution, but I would guess major problem fixes would be much more welcome than new features at schools |
| 11:10 | cjb | RonF: I think that's right |
| 11:10 | I assumed the new UI work would be attractive to deployments | |
| 11:10 | SeanDaly | I am convinced XS school server is key to OLPC and non-OLPC Sugar deployments |
| 11:10 | cjb | but I got the impression -- at least at first -- that Peru and Uruguay both would have preferred if we just hadn't changed it |
| 11:11 | because they do in-person training and make paper manuals. what are they supposed to do when the instructions change? | |
| 11:11 | SeanDaly | cjb: possibly harder for teachers (kids adapt quick) |
| 11:11 | cjb | SeanDaly: it certainly helps a lot, but often the deployment can't afford them. |
| 11:12 | JT4sugar | cjb, New UI versus logistic challenge I guess thats understandable where they come out |
| 11:12 | RonF | Even I hate when things like menu structures change - my basal ganglia have learned one set of shortcuts, and now they have to learn a new set |
| 11:12 | SeanDaly | it may be worthwhile for SL to debate doing long-term stable version versus every-six-month versions? |
| 11:12 | cjb | SeanDaly: yeah, I think something like that would make sense |
| 11:13 | SeanDaly | Many years ago I visited a testing room at Apple |
| 11:13 | cjb | so far none of OLPC's deployments have been willing to upgrade every six months |
| 11:13 | SeanDaly | Dozens of machines, dozens of configs |
| 11:13 | cjb | usually they want to upgrade once a year, just before start of the school year |
| 11:13 | but even doing that is a huge logistical challenge for them | |
| 11:13 | SeanDaly | the guys there told me "we have it easy - the MS Windows guys have exponentially more HW to test" |
| 11:14 | cjb | and costs them a surprisingly large amount of money to do |
| 11:14 | SeanDaly | I think it was Daniel drake who developed nandblaster? is that useful for these cases? |
| 11:15 | cjb | it was Mitch Bradley, mostly; it's very useful, but only works on one room at a time |
| 11:15 | it reflashes 50 XOs very quickly | |
| 11:15 | but Peru has ~500k XOs | |
| 11:15 | RonF | I have to go but will log chat |
| 11:16 | SeanDaly | RonF: I have the meetbot on, this will be posted in marketing meeting page |
| 11:16 | JT4sugar: on one final topic, 2010 marketing goals | |
| 11:17 | I am convinced you are correct that we should canvass universities for volunteers coordinated by profs | |
| 11:18 | At l'Atelier several profs came who said they would like to get their IT students on a "real" project and not just a play one | |
| 11:19 | And SL projects fit the bill perfectly - no one can be against them | |
| 11:19 | JT4sugar | In that area I think a SOAS stick creation kit we can send to University Ed Tech Profs that allows them to replicate sticks as well as pdf training resources and then pass on to colleague like a baton is something we should work on |
| 11:19 | SeanDaly | Sure but how do we build list of profs? |
| 11:20 | i suppose we could do legwork, start with top universities Computer Science depts | |
| 11:20 | ideally i'd love to connect educators & developers: | |
| 11:21 | ask educators for ideas for Activities, ask profs to have students code it | |
| 11:21 | JT4sugar | Pick a University-Pick an Ed Tech Prof-emails always available on University Site. Send them email about what we are looking for. Try to send to Ed Tech first they will know colleagues in Computer Science |
| 11:21 | SeanDaly | just imagine how that could snowball |
| 11:22 | JT4sugar: time my most limited resource :D do you think there is an existing list anywhere? association? | |
| 11:22 | JT4sugar | Then if you could send a SoaS Stick creation kit that they can pass around- I think they call that Viral |
| 11:23 | SeanDaly | Put another way, it's taken me a year to build topnotch list of tech journalists, and that's still mostly for Engish journos only |
| 11:23 | s/Engish/English-language | |
| 11:24 | JT4sugar: i'm leery of plonking down another grand for sticks... I really want to develop fundraising drive for 2010 | |
| 11:24 | many many many initiatives possible if even mediocre funds | |
| 11:24 | adverts in Ed press (Teacher magazine) could raise profile very quickly | |
| 11:25 | JT4sugar | I think you write down a list of ten Universities go to web sites find two Ed Tech teachers at each-send them email-state that you would like them to collaborate with their Computer science dept I think you would get good results |
| 11:25 | Couldn't you send SoaS Creation kit by Drop IO or some other service-no real cost that way | |
| 11:27 | SeanDaly | on phone... |
| 11:27 | JT4sugar: major cost is sticks | |
| 11:28 | JT4sugar: not sure which top ten are.. haven't lived in USA for 20 years (and was college dropout even though National Merit Scholar) | |
| 11:30 | JT4sugar | Then can we put together SoaS Stick Creation Kit that we can send them the files-Ed Tech teachers will find the sticks to test/pilot |
| 11:30 | SeanDaly | it would be ggreat if we could distribute flat cheap CD-ROMs which would build SoaS supplied by recipient |
| 11:31 | clearly though building a bootable stick is a barrrier | |
| 11:31 | JT4sugar | I'm not sure you need the Top Ten any Large University in US or Abroad will have a Ed Tech Department with Professors looking for Real life projects for students |
| 11:31 | sdziallas | looks up. |
| 11:32 | SeanDaly | needs to sign off soon |
| 11:32 | sdziallas | depending on which operating system one's targetting, it shouldn't be too hard to create a SoaS Creation Kit. |
| 11:32 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: just wondering where to look for such a list but I think Forbes or somebody "rates" univs |
| 11:33 | cost of brochure & mailing probably less than cost of stick :-/ | |
| 11:33 | sdziallas | the major thing that'd be needed is probably documentation. anyhow, I'll put that on my todo-list - no promises, though, as I'm pretty swamped lately. |
| 11:34 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: ideally, ed tech professor receives kit with CD-ROM ; next day brings blank stick ; CD-ROM loads bootable SoaS, with no risk to existing system or data or external drives |
| 11:34 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: yup, that's what I'd go for, too. |
| 11:34 | SeanDaly | even more ideally of course stick in envelope, but cost a factor |
| 11:35 | maybe JT4sugar is right: we can spring for 20 sticks and start with top schools first | |
| 11:35 | JT4sugar | If we can create a set of 5 or 6 projects for University Students we could always set up a Collaboration Competition(Ed Tech, Comp Sci, Business students)for Universities to compete against each other |
| 11:36 | SeanDaly | actually to be serious we basically need sales cycle: follow up mailing with phone call |
| 11:36 | JT4sugar: business Gaming a fast-growing phenomenon | |
| 11:37 | Perhaps we should create a list of "10 Activities that don't exist yet" abd ask Ed tech profs concretely to choose one? | |
| 11:37 | s/abd/and | |
| 11:37 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: is there any deadline for this Creation Kit or can I just take it on at some point? (I've some ideas about it, so this could be interesting) |
| 11:37 | JT4sugar | 20 Sticks could equal 20 Universities plus Baton approach-have make 5 sticks and give to colleagues and so on |
| 11:37 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: no deadline, we're 2010 brainstorming :D |
| 11:37 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: hehe, nice ;) |
| 11:38 | satellit | could a custom F12 live usb be built to boot and run liveusb-creator? or a custom script? |
| 11:38 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: I might be able to get something done around the end of Feb / beginning of March. |
| 11:38 | satellit | s/live cd |
| 11:38 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: we could possibly link this to the SoaS v3 Cloudberry launch |
| 11:39 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: yeah, that sounds good! |
| 11:39 | (if we got it ready well in advance, it might be a nice thing to spread the word) | |
| 11:39 | JT4sugar | Would be very good to have done by April that way get on Campuses would give professors a chance to get familiar and time over summer to play with |
| 11:39 | sdziallas | JT4sugar: alright, I've "April" written down :) |
| 11:39 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: good point, Dell launched their education netbook the Latitude 2100 in May for that reason |
| 11:40 | charging station was not ready on media launch date, but they had to launch anyway | |
| 11:40 | JT4sugar | sdziallas, A good person to get help on this would be Gerald Ardito from New York XO/Soas Pilot |
| 11:41 | SeanDaly | in 2010 SL needs to solve problems of resources: contributors + funds ; schools helping can make major difference I think |
| 11:41 | sdziallas | JT4sugar: you mean for giving a test version a try? |
| 11:41 | JT4sugar | sdziallas, That and advice on what documentation to include |
| 11:41 | SeanDaly | for sure Gerald can share firsthand classroom experience |
| 11:42 | sdziallas | sounds cool to me! |
| 11:42 | SeanDaly | as stated earlier I'd like to get marketing business school students to help with merchandise project |
| 11:43 | t-shirts caps mugs online store | |
| 11:43 | sdziallas | maybe those folks from Babson College... |
| 11:43 | SeanDaly | need to go now... anything else? |
| 11:45 | going once... | |
| 11:45 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Can you write up a one pager on Merchandise project and I will see if i can't facilitate something this semester |
| 11:46 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: ok that's a deliverable... will have that by next week |
| 11:46 | going twice... | |
| 11:46 | JT4sugar | Sounds good! Thanks! |
| 11:47 | SeanDaly | thanks everyone |
| 11:47 | #endmeeting |