| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:06 | SeanDaly | since it's much more fun, and we are not numerous, may I propose we start off by brainstorming about 2010? |
| 10:06 | JT4sugar | Sounds good |
| 10:07 | SeanDaly | well, this is easy, but one project I'd really like to see happen is: T-Shirts! |
| 10:07 | and merchandising in general (hats mugs etc) | |
| 10:08 | a no-brainer, but always helpful in raising brand awareness | |
| 10:08 | walterbender | branded USB keys to give to teachers! |
| 10:09 | SeanDaly | yes, hear hear we need help financing those but would be fabulously efficient way to get Sugar in the hands of teachers |
| 10:09 | JT4sugar | Fundraising=Awareness=T-shirts and merchandising Fundraising for Core Developer Capacity Fundraising for USB distribution program |
| 10:09 | SeanDaly | by eliminating the search - download - format/load stick steps |
| 10:10 | JT4sugar: yes totally agree, i had specifically mentioned fundraising in my SLOBs plank | |
| 10:10 | sdziallas | hullos |
| 10:10 | (sorry for being late) | |
| 10:11 | SeanDaly | I'd like to put together a list (foundations, OEMs) and think about how we can reach & followup |
| 10:11 | greets mchua, sdziallas | |
| 10:11 | sdziallas | hi SeanDaly :) |
| 10:11 | walterbender | SeanDaly: there is the list of EU program I sent you a while back. |
| 10:11 | SeanDaly: there are 3-4 US-based programs I am working on for January submission as well (Pepsi is due tomorrow). | |
| 10:12 | SeanDaly | my impression is that we generate interest easily enough, but sometimes drop the ball in followup |
| 10:13 | JT4sugar | walterbender, what does submission aks for? Does it fund specific initiatives? |
| 10:14 | walterbender | JT4sugar: another one of these cloud-sourcing initiatives--propose an idea and the world vote on it... :( |
| 10:16 | SeanDaly | I'm guilty myself, our EU friends pinged me yesterday they are curious about Sugar pilots in Europe esp. germany |
| 10:17 | was on phone | |
| 10:17 | about fundraising follwup, | |
| 10:17 | it's often the case that people propose tools | |
| 10:18 | however in my experience even a simple list will suffice if trusted people have access to document | |
| 10:18 | for obvious reasons it's difficult to have such docs public | |
| 10:19 | JT4sugar | If we develop specific funding initiatives ourselves example: Teacher USB program-Awareness/Testing, University Testing Kit(Sugar on a stick, VMs, USB Creator, Some Documentation, What we want tested) and Core Developer funding,Swag |
| 10:19 | We know have a menu of funding choices to offer | |
| 10:19 | sdziallas | nods |
| 10:19 | SeanDaly | a list where each contact point is logged; with name oof person who contacted; often best to have a "main" SL person as contact |
| 10:20 | JT4sugar: yes excellent suggestion to break out into programs | |
| 10:21 | JT4sugar | If we can get this into a presentable formats. Then each person picks three philanthropists to contact and make a direct pitch |
| 10:21 | SeanDaly | i agree that direct pitch best approach |
| 10:23 | other ideas: labeling programs | |
| 10:23 | JT4sugar | Say 10 of us Sugar Labers do this that equals 30 Philanthropists, I'm pretty sure we can get at least one or two breakthroughs if not more |
| 10:23 | SeanDaly | this year i would like to work on viral video "Sugar Boots" campaign |
| 10:24 | JT4sugar: no doubt whatsoever in my mind we will find funding | |
| 10:24 | just need organized formalized approach | |
| 10:25 | I got good feedback from the EU people will share soon (on todo list) | |
| 10:25 | something else for 2010: website improvement | |
| 10:25 | navigation, ease of use | |
| 10:25 | look & feel? | |
| 10:26 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Is this something that can be outsourced to University level project |
| 10:27 | SeanDaly, Or do we need to get Christian some interns? | |
| 10:28 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: perhaps... bu if we want to rethink our front pages, Design team should be with us |
| 10:28 | i'd like to use the following approach: | |
| 10:28 | study stats, enumerate objectives, fix primary objectives, then talk design changes | |
| 10:29 | right now I don't have access to site stats, i asked Bernie a while back but i think he missed my mail | |
| 10:30 | I haven't made this high priority for a simple reason: our patched-together sites plus our press coverage have kept us fabulously well-referenced | |
| 10:30 | stats will tell us how useful static intro pages are, where visitors (not contributors) go on the wiki, &c | |
| 10:31 | we did somme common-sense stuff for the Blueberry launch: callout on the homepage, standard wiki page for SoaS | |
| 10:32 | with Strawberry, Blueberry pages behind SoaS page | |
| 10:32 | helps when ppl click on old links in news articles | |
| 10:32 | let's talk university project some more | |
| 10:33 | JT4sugar | I ambeginning to work with Instructors and Students at Oakland Schools Four Technical Campuses, we will be wading into the site to pick out key pieces for Teachers/students-How can we connect outside resources with marketing and design team |
| 10:33 | SeanDaly | yes a wish I have for 2010 is to expand the marketing team |
| 10:33 | I draw inspiration from the Spread Firefox campaigns | |
| 10:34 | it would be great if univ students could take Sugar into elementary schools | |
| 10:34 | and students develop Activities, and work on documentation | |
| 10:36 | JT4sugar | I am working on an Investing in Innovation grant(US Dept of ED) will be working with Michigan State, Purdue, Oakland University and possibly Evangeline at BU-getting Ed students to do exactly that |
| 10:37 | SeanDaly | this might sound dumb but i feel T-shirts could be helpful in these programs - univ students like to share cool news by word of mouth |
| 10:38 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: http://mairin.wordpress.com/20[…]cape-class-day-1/ might be interesting. |
| 10:38 | SeanDaly | cf. at Bolzano during the FOSS conference i had an XO on my shoulder strap, a crowd of people followed me around and asked for a demo |
| 10:39 | sdziallas: thanks! I recently fetched the inkscape installers and bought a book (another python one too) haven't had time to go further yet | |
| 10:39 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Would be great to have Cafe Press site with cool Sugar Labs shirts and be able to have studenst participating to choose design they like best or create new one |
| 10:39 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: Mo is introducing middle schoolers to it - and they get t-shirts for free, too ;) |
| 10:40 | (that's why I referred it) | |
| 10:40 | walterbender | SeanDaly: re a t-shirt, Christian Schmidt does a fabulous job on them... the one he designed for OLPC, which would work well for Sugar Labs actually, was perfect (even though NN didn't like it) |
| 10:40 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: in fact I had started a benchmark with cafepress and their 5 competitors |
| 10:41 | I would like wide range of different designs actually | |
| 10:42 | in particular... giant icons of Activities, front of T-shirt say e.g. "Browse" with icon and back say "A sugar Activity" | |
| 10:42 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Think many designs best as well as create/submit your own option |
| 10:43 | SeanDaly | different color combos will reinforce our multicolor logo branding |
| 10:43 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: I like the idea of setting something up at cafepress or whereever. |
| 10:43 | SeanDaly | i also think it could be cool to have versions in different languages :D |
| 10:43 | reminding ppl that Sugar is available in their language | |
| 10:44 | JT4sugar | "I've Been Sugarized" T-shirts and Stickers for laptops/netbooks-Multiple languages-Yes |
| 10:45 | SeanDaly | I myself can't wait to have a tee with Neighborhood view :D |
| 10:45 | sdziallas_ | sorry, I got disconnected. |
| 10:46 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Can you put out call for updated screenshots of Views for T-shirts and Website Gallery |
| 10:48 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: in fact before starting t-shirts i'd like to wait until trademark policy is done (should be soon before end of month) |
| 10:48 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Makes sense |
| 10:48 | SeanDaly | Gary & Christian both handmade super high-rez screenshots for OLPC a month ago |
| 10:49 | in other words basic screenshot too low-rez for print | |
| 10:49 | gary seemed to say that low to high-rez transformation couls be partially automated | |
| 10:49 | walterbender | SeanDaly: speak of TM policy, can we discuss the phrasing of 2a and 2b, which are our final hold-up on ratifying the new policy |
| 10:50 | SeanDaly | Months ago i devised an imagemagick command to generate Activity icon SVG at super high rez |
| 10:50 | walterbender: yes haven't taken time to start thread on label phrase | |
| 10:51 | for clarity I feel would be best if the phrase was part of policy | |
| 10:52 | JT4sugar | Is there link to draft policy |
| 10:52 | SeanDaly | and we need to think through a few more scenarios that should be covered by tm policy; for example: hideous t-shirt design with SL logo |
| 10:52 | JT4sugar: looking... | |
| 10:54 | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ernance/Trademark | |
| 10:54 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Thanks |
| 10:55 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: you are welcome to participate in SLOBs Friday meeting, we've been discussing the policy last few meetings |
| 10:56 | SFC still needs to vet it, but Karen told me first order of business is to be clear what we want/don't want and she will verify language is OK from there | |
| 10:56 | JT4sugar | walterbender, In 2a 2b what are sticking points9Which words) |
| 10:57 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: actually the stickler is me |
| 10:57 | I want to develop a label program loosely based on "intel inside" | |
| 10:58 | but for Sugar distributions | |
| 10:59 | the idea being easy & simple implicit licensing if named unconfusingly, but explicit licensing if name too close to our trademarks | |
| 11:00 | label should reinforce Sugar brand | |
| 11:00 | here are examples: | |
| 11:00 | a sugar mix | |
| 11:00 | a sugar confection | |
| 11:00 | a sugar refinement | |
| 11:00 | a sugar concoction | |
| 11:00 | a sugar treat | |
| 11:01 | a sugar conception | |
| 11:01 | &c | |
| 11:01 | each time with our logo | |
| 11:01 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Can that not become A then others follow on below as b,c,d |
| 11:04 | SeanDaly, Or is that a restructing of point A | |
| 11:05 | SeanDaly, restructuring | |
| 11:10 | SeanDaly | was on phone |
| 11:12 | JT4sugar: yes, i would like A to be explicit so wriggle room reduced | |
| 11:12 | I shall have to go soon, but | |
| 11:12 | I feel there could be lots more brainstorming :-) | |
| 11:13 | we can continue on list or at next week's meeting | |
| 11:13 | but Sugar label text a todo before Friday I'll start that thread | |
| 11:14 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Are you ready to talk with Tripti MIT MarketLab-we can try to have them put together Fundraising program and leverage work of Babson group |
| 11:16 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: i don't feel ready yet lots on my plate in particular prep for OLPC France / Sugar Labs presentation to major French corporations on feb 3: http://www.atelier.fr/usages/3[…]gique-39192-.html |
| 11:17 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, If we don't have conversation in next couple of weeks we will miss this semesters project opportunity |
| 11:17 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: do you have link to babson report? i remember downloading a PDF but can't find it :-( |
| 11:18 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, Looking |
| 11:19 | SeanDaly, I will email you that | |
| 11:21 | SeanDaly | need to go soon |
| 11:22 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, I acn contact Tripti what would you like them to work on |
| 11:23 | SeanDaly, Can-I can't spell anymore | |
| 11:23 | SeanDaly | why don't I read babson report then fix a priority |
| 11:24 | JT4sugar | OK-ping me when done then let's do skype call to work out what to ask for |
| 11:25 | SeanDaly | skype iffy too no good internet at home yet and ofc moving this wk |
| 11:26 | JT4sugar | Regular phone is fine or we can do IRC with a Google doc |
| 11:26 | SeanDaly | ok sounds good |
| 11:26 | JT4sugar | Just let me know when ready |
| 11:27 | SeanDaly | need to sign off now, will end in 60 secs |
| 11:28 | JT4sugar | Good day! |
| 11:28 | SeanDaly | you too! |
| 11:29 | #endmeeting |