Time |
Nick |
Message |
10:06 |
SeanDaly |
since it's much more fun, and we are not numerous, may I propose we start off by brainstorming about 2010? |
10:06 |
JT4sugar |
Sounds good |
10:07 |
SeanDaly |
well, this is easy, but one project I'd really like to see happen is: T-Shirts! |
10:07 |
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and merchandising in general (hats mugs etc) |
10:08 |
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a no-brainer, but always helpful in raising brand awareness |
10:08 |
walterbender |
branded USB keys to give to teachers! |
10:09 |
SeanDaly |
yes, hear hear we need help financing those but would be fabulously efficient way to get Sugar in the hands of teachers |
10:09 |
JT4sugar |
Fundraising=Awareness=T-shirts and merchandising Fundraising for Core Developer Capacity Fundraising for USB distribution program |
10:09 |
SeanDaly |
by eliminating the search - download - format/load stick steps |
10:10 |
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JT4sugar: yes totally agree, i had specifically mentioned fundraising in my SLOBs plank |
10:10 |
sdziallas |
hullos |
10:10 |
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(sorry for being late) |
10:11 |
SeanDaly |
I'd like to put together a list (foundations, OEMs) and think about how we can reach & followup |
10:11 |
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greets mchua, sdziallas |
10:11 |
sdziallas |
hi SeanDaly :) |
10:11 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: there is the list of EU program I sent you a while back. |
10:11 |
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SeanDaly: there are 3-4 US-based programs I am working on for January submission as well (Pepsi is due tomorrow). |
10:12 |
SeanDaly |
my impression is that we generate interest easily enough, but sometimes drop the ball in followup |
10:13 |
JT4sugar |
walterbender, what does submission aks for? Does it fund specific initiatives? |
10:14 |
walterbender |
JT4sugar: another one of these cloud-sourcing initiatives--propose an idea and the world vote on it... :( |
10:16 |
SeanDaly |
I'm guilty myself, our EU friends pinged me yesterday they are curious about Sugar pilots in Europe esp. germany |
10:17 |
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was on phone |
10:17 |
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about fundraising follwup, |
10:17 |
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it's often the case that people propose tools |
10:18 |
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however in my experience even a simple list will suffice if trusted people have access to document |
10:18 |
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for obvious reasons it's difficult to have such docs public |
10:19 |
JT4sugar |
If we develop specific funding initiatives ourselves example: Teacher USB program-Awareness/Testing, University Testing Kit(Sugar on a stick, VMs, USB Creator, Some Documentation, What we want tested) and Core Developer funding,Swag |
10:19 |
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We know have a menu of funding choices to offer |
10:19 |
sdziallas |
nods |
10:19 |
SeanDaly |
a list where each contact point is logged; with name oof person who contacted; often best to have a "main" SL person as contact |
10:20 |
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JT4sugar: yes excellent suggestion to break out into programs |
10:21 |
JT4sugar |
If we can get this into a presentable formats. Then each person picks three philanthropists to contact and make a direct pitch |
10:21 |
SeanDaly |
i agree that direct pitch best approach |
10:23 |
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other ideas: labeling programs |
10:23 |
JT4sugar |
Say 10 of us Sugar Labers do this that equals 30 Philanthropists, I'm pretty sure we can get at least one or two breakthroughs if not more |
10:23 |
SeanDaly |
this year i would like to work on viral video "Sugar Boots" campaign |
10:24 |
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JT4sugar: no doubt whatsoever in my mind we will find funding |
10:24 |
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just need organized formalized approach |
10:25 |
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I got good feedback from the EU people will share soon (on todo list) |
10:25 |
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something else for 2010: website improvement |
10:25 |
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navigation, ease of use |
10:25 |
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look & feel? |
10:26 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Is this something that can be outsourced to University level project |
10:27 |
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SeanDaly, Or do we need to get Christian some interns? |
10:28 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: perhaps... bu if we want to rethink our front pages, Design team should be with us |
10:28 |
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i'd like to use the following approach: |
10:28 |
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study stats, enumerate objectives, fix primary objectives, then talk design changes |
10:29 |
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right now I don't have access to site stats, i asked Bernie a while back but i think he missed my mail |
10:30 |
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I haven't made this high priority for a simple reason: our patched-together sites plus our press coverage have kept us fabulously well-referenced |
10:30 |
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stats will tell us how useful static intro pages are, where visitors (not contributors) go on the wiki, &c |
10:31 |
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we did somme common-sense stuff for the Blueberry launch: callout on the homepage, standard wiki page for SoaS |
10:32 |
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with Strawberry, Blueberry pages behind SoaS page |
10:32 |
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helps when ppl click on old links in news articles |
10:32 |
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let's talk university project some more |
10:33 |
JT4sugar |
I ambeginning to work with Instructors and Students at Oakland Schools Four Technical Campuses, we will be wading into the site to pick out key pieces for Teachers/students-How can we connect outside resources with marketing and design team |
10:33 |
SeanDaly |
yes a wish I have for 2010 is to expand the marketing team |
10:33 |
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I draw inspiration from the Spread Firefox campaigns |
10:34 |
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it would be great if univ students could take Sugar into elementary schools |
10:34 |
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and students develop Activities, and work on documentation |
10:36 |
JT4sugar |
I am working on an Investing in Innovation grant(US Dept of ED) will be working with Michigan State, Purdue, Oakland University and possibly Evangeline at BU-getting Ed students to do exactly that |
10:37 |
SeanDaly |
this might sound dumb but i feel T-shirts could be helpful in these programs - univ students like to share cool news by word of mouth |
10:38 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: http://mairin.wordpress.com/20[…]cape-class-day-1/ might be interesting. |
10:38 |
SeanDaly |
cf. at Bolzano during the FOSS conference i had an XO on my shoulder strap, a crowd of people followed me around and asked for a demo |
10:39 |
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sdziallas: thanks! I recently fetched the inkscape installers and bought a book (another python one too) haven't had time to go further yet |
10:39 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Would be great to have Cafe Press site with cool Sugar Labs shirts and be able to have studenst participating to choose design they like best or create new one |
10:39 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: Mo is introducing middle schoolers to it - and they get t-shirts for free, too ;) |
10:40 |
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(that's why I referred it) |
10:40 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: re a t-shirt, Christian Schmidt does a fabulous job on them... the one he designed for OLPC, which would work well for Sugar Labs actually, was perfect (even though NN didn't like it) |
10:40 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: in fact I had started a benchmark with cafepress and their 5 competitors |
10:41 |
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I would like wide range of different designs actually |
10:42 |
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in particular... giant icons of Activities, front of T-shirt say e.g. "Browse" with icon and back say "A sugar Activity" |
10:42 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Think many designs best as well as create/submit your own option |
10:43 |
SeanDaly |
different color combos will reinforce our multicolor logo branding |
10:43 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: I like the idea of setting something up at cafepress or whereever. |
10:43 |
SeanDaly |
i also think it could be cool to have versions in different languages :D |
10:43 |
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reminding ppl that Sugar is available in their language |
10:44 |
JT4sugar |
"I've Been Sugarized" T-shirts and Stickers for laptops/netbooks-Multiple languages-Yes |
10:45 |
SeanDaly |
I myself can't wait to have a tee with Neighborhood view :D |
10:45 |
sdziallas_ |
sorry, I got disconnected. |
10:46 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Can you put out call for updated screenshots of Views for T-shirts and Website Gallery |
10:48 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: in fact before starting t-shirts i'd like to wait until trademark policy is done (should be soon before end of month) |
10:48 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Makes sense |
10:48 |
SeanDaly |
Gary & Christian both handmade super high-rez screenshots for OLPC a month ago |
10:49 |
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in other words basic screenshot too low-rez for print |
10:49 |
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gary seemed to say that low to high-rez transformation couls be partially automated |
10:49 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: speak of TM policy, can we discuss the phrasing of 2a and 2b, which are our final hold-up on ratifying the new policy |
10:50 |
SeanDaly |
Months ago i devised an imagemagick command to generate Activity icon SVG at super high rez |
10:50 |
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walterbender: yes haven't taken time to start thread on label phrase |
10:51 |
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for clarity I feel would be best if the phrase was part of policy |
10:52 |
JT4sugar |
Is there link to draft policy |
10:52 |
SeanDaly |
and we need to think through a few more scenarios that should be covered by tm policy; for example: hideous t-shirt design with SL logo |
10:52 |
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JT4sugar: looking... |
10:54 |
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http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ernance/Trademark |
10:54 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Thanks |
10:55 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: you are welcome to participate in SLOBs Friday meeting, we've been discussing the policy last few meetings |
10:56 |
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SFC still needs to vet it, but Karen told me first order of business is to be clear what we want/don't want and she will verify language is OK from there |
10:56 |
JT4sugar |
walterbender, In 2a 2b what are sticking points9Which words) |
10:57 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: actually the stickler is me |
10:57 |
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I want to develop a label program loosely based on "intel inside" |
10:58 |
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but for Sugar distributions |
10:59 |
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the idea being easy & simple implicit licensing if named unconfusingly, but explicit licensing if name too close to our trademarks |
11:00 |
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label should reinforce Sugar brand |
11:00 |
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here are examples: |
11:00 |
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a sugar mix |
11:00 |
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a sugar confection |
11:00 |
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a sugar refinement |
11:00 |
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a sugar concoction |
11:00 |
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a sugar treat |
11:01 |
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a sugar conception |
11:01 |
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&c |
11:01 |
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each time with our logo |
11:01 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Can that not become A then others follow on below as b,c,d |
11:04 |
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SeanDaly, Or is that a restructing of point A |
11:05 |
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SeanDaly, restructuring |
11:10 |
SeanDaly |
was on phone |
11:12 |
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JT4sugar: yes, i would like A to be explicit so wriggle room reduced |
11:12 |
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I shall have to go soon, but |
11:12 |
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I feel there could be lots more brainstorming :-) |
11:13 |
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we can continue on list or at next week's meeting |
11:13 |
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but Sugar label text a todo before Friday I'll start that thread |
11:14 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Are you ready to talk with Tripti MIT MarketLab-we can try to have them put together Fundraising program and leverage work of Babson group |
11:16 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: i don't feel ready yet lots on my plate in particular prep for OLPC France / Sugar Labs presentation to major French corporations on feb 3: http://www.atelier.fr/usages/3[…]gique-39192-.html |
11:17 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, If we don't have conversation in next couple of weeks we will miss this semesters project opportunity |
11:17 |
SeanDaly |
JT4sugar: do you have link to babson report? i remember downloading a PDF but can't find it :-( |
11:18 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, Looking |
11:19 |
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SeanDaly, I will email you that |
11:21 |
SeanDaly |
need to go soon |
11:22 |
JT4sugar |
SeanDaly, I acn contact Tripti what would you like them to work on |
11:23 |
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SeanDaly, Can-I can't spell anymore |
11:23 |
SeanDaly |
why don't I read babson report then fix a priority |
11:24 |
JT4sugar |
OK-ping me when done then let's do skype call to work out what to ask for |
11:25 |
SeanDaly |
skype iffy too no good internet at home yet and ofc moving this wk |
11:26 |
JT4sugar |
Regular phone is fine or we can do IRC with a Google doc |
11:26 |
SeanDaly |
ok sounds good |
11:26 |
JT4sugar |
Just let me know when ready |
11:27 |
SeanDaly |
need to sign off now, will end in 60 secs |
11:28 |
JT4sugar |
Good day! |
11:28 |
SeanDaly |
you too! |
11:29 |
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#endmeeting |