| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:18 | SeanDaly | hi everyone very sorry for the delay, was deep in a SugarCamp discussion |
| 11:19 | who is here? | |
| 11:19 | sdziallas | is |
| 11:20 | caroline | yes |
| 11:20 | davidhan | hi |
| 11:21 | SeanDaly | I had two items on today's agenda, are there any others to look at? |
| 11:22 | caroline | David, how is your press release going? |
| 11:23 | davidhan | I think I'm done with it. My professor hasn't been in class this week (guest lectures). But I think I can catch him tomorrow |
| 11:23 | caroline | Sean do you want any input? |
| 11:24 | tomeu | hi! |
| 11:24 | JT4sugar | caroline, Is press release local-Boston? |
| 11:25 | SeanDaly | remind me, this is the press release about...? |
| 11:25 | caroline | Winning the Do Something Grant right David? |
| 11:26 | davidhan | Yup. It's about what BU students are doing in the Gardner Pilot. I wrote if for local papers and the school paper. |
| 11:26 | SeanDaly | ChristianV just called, is arriving SugarCamp shortly |
| 11:28 | I thought that was more like contacting editors, not a press release | |
| 11:29 | davidhan | No, but I did create a list of local editors and thier contact information a couple weeks ago. It's shared on google docs. |
| 11:31 | SeanDaly | davidhan, I can't find it, do you have a link? |
| 11:32 | davidhan | http://docs.google.com/Doc?doc[…]3c3BjM25jNA&hl=en |
| 11:34 | SeanDaly | I'm sorry davidhan, I thought you were referring to the text to be sent out, not your list of Boston-area editors |
| 11:35 | davidhan | that's saved on my computer. I can email it to you. |
| 11:36 | SeanDaly | I can advise you concerning the text like last time |
| 11:36 | Can we talk OLPC now? | |
| 11:37 | sdziallas | (and SoaS afterwards, please) |
| 11:37 | SeanDaly | (OLPC is short but important) |
| 11:38 | following Professor Negroponte's Xconomy interview, some things known within OLPC but not outside (including me) became known | |
| 11:38 | perhaps the key takeaway is that OLPC Foundation and OLPC Association have different roles & leaders | |
| 11:39 | When I learned that OLPC had received public confirmation of enormous Peru order for 2010, | |
| 11:39 | I pinged Chuck again about doing joint PR | |
| 11:40 | he agreed and asked me to send him and Walter a draft | |
| 11:40 | if this happens, will be a first: joint LPC Association/Sugar Labs PR will receive wide coverage | |
| 11:41 | JT4sugar | Clearly articulating each role along with Sugar Labs role and how we are building an Ecosystem around "Learning How to Learn" would clear up alot and be extemely helpful for all |
| 11:41 | SeanDaly | yes, a great opportunity to correct misperceptions about OLPC, and our relationship to them |
| 11:42 | JT4sugar | As part of that ecosystem you should also mention OLE |
| 11:42 | SeanDaly | I plan to have a draft up very shortly, possibly tonight |
| 11:42 | JT4Sugar: the problem I have is what to leave out, not what to put in | |
| 11:42 | example: Uruguay | |
| 11:43 | example: Internet Archive 1.6m books, which can help Blueberry launch behind | |
| 11:43 | example: 99% of XOs run Sugar | |
| 11:43 | JT4sugar | Confusion reigns so if you have to be a little wordy this time around to clear the air I think its warranted |
| 11:44 | SeanDaly | for sure I want to communicate that Sugar v0.86 will be in there |
| 11:46 | first draft I put up will likely have punch list of topics to cover | |
| 11:46 | I xould like though to have a quote by Peru education ministry | |
| 11:47 | Chuck may not wish to agree to everything we stick in there | |
| 11:47 | caroline | I have a hard stop at noon, can we skip to SoaS then you can go back to OLPC? |
| 11:47 | SeanDaly | I don't know where to dateline it, but may be useful to dateline Miami |
| 11:48 | OK we're done with OLPC just look for draft invite | |
| 11:48 | concerning Blueberry launch... | |
| 11:49 | I am really concerned about sugaronastick.com minisite. Unfortunately it's a blocker for the launch. | |
| 11:49 | caroline | I think I saw an ticket today that said that backup and restore of sticks would not be in Blueberry? |
| 11:50 | SeanDaly | i don't know, but I can ask |
| 11:50 | sdziallas | that's interesting. |
| 11:50 | SeanDaly | but let's not forget that Blueberry is still a test version, not a production version |
| 11:50 | very important not to overpromise | |
| 11:50 | caroline | 1124 |
| 11:51 | sdziallas | looks |
| 11:51 | SeanDaly: (+1) | |
| 11:51 | caroline | I don't know if we can really call for teachers to try it without that feature or not. |
| 11:51 | SeanDaly | looks too |
| 11:51 | sdziallas | caroline: I have no idea why this was pushed there. |
| 11:52 | caroline | nod, I thought we were making pretty good progress. |
| 11:52 | sdziallas | "this was pushed" refers to the change of the version number. |
| 11:52 | SeanDaly | I don't know |
| 11:52 | sdziallas | this is a SoaS thing. (whether to include it or not) |
| 11:52 | and from what I know, the parts in Sugar itself have been added already, too. | |
| 11:53 | so from what I know, it's just about adding a few packages to SoaS. | |
| 11:53 | whereas "a few" actually equals 1. | |
| 11:53 | caroline | that was also what I understood, I think its going to make a big difference to what people can do with Blueberry. |
| 11:54 | sdziallas | I'm not sure why this change has been made, but I think I'm going to revert it. |
| 11:54 | JT4sugar | Bakup and restore would be a big plus and will be needed for sure in a commercial product |
| 11:54 | caroline | Thanks :) |
| 11:54 | JT4 its needed for classroom pilots too | |
| 11:54 | JT4sugar | I fully agree |
| 11:54 | caroline | we can't really tell teachers they can let their kids take home sticks if they could lose all their work. |
| 11:55 | SeanDaly | XS server compatibility is an important part of full Sugar on a Stick solution |
| 11:56 | by the way Martin told me the server machine I loaned him was useful for the v0.6 development, i will get it back around the 24th | |
| 11:56 | or earlier for the Educatice show if I can | |
| 11:56 | sdziallas | has commented in the ticket. |
| 11:57 | JT4sugar | Gerald has his server working in his New York deployment and says it makes all the difference in the world |
| 11:58 | SeanDaly | I hope to see what gerald is doing in the next couple of months, NYC/Boston trip but looks difficult before January |
| 11:58 | caroline | he's using two different solutions right? |
| 11:58 | JT4sugar | 5 claases with XO's a one with Dell 2100 and Soas |
| 11:58 | caroline | XS on an XO for collaboration locally. |
| 11:58 | But I don't think students are taking sticks home yet. I think he has the same blocker. | |
| 11:59 | sdziallas | caroline: well, students can already take their sticks home, as they've their files on their. but anyway, this feature is still useful, I agree. |
| 11:59 | caroline | yes, physically true, but is anyone doing it in the field yet? |
| 12:00 | JT4sugar | It would also allow them to keep backup on home computer for additional redundancy |
| 12:00 | caroline | JT4 that would be fairly challenging, there is no UI for that. |
| 12:01 | its a good future feature to consider. | |
| 12:01 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: generally, do you know whether Dec 8 was already confirmed? |
| 12:01 | caroline | Sdziallas, do you have a good list of everyone using SoaS in classrooms world wide? |
| 12:01 | I don't and I should. | |
| 12:01 | sdziallas | caroline: /me neither. I know of you and erikos, as the biggest deployments I heard of... :) |
| 12:02 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: not confirmed yet; we repinged netbook World again this morning |
| 12:02 | caroline | and Gerald in NY |
| 12:02 | erikos | has a biiiig deployment |
| 12:02 | caroline | there was a planned on in Mexico |
| 12:02 | erikos, how is it going? | |
| 12:02 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: well, this crucial for the release, too. because we all need to have some kind of planning and there's still a lot of stuff to do. |
| 12:03 | caroline | ack gotta run to my next meeting. bye |
| 12:03 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: (I just learned from Strawberry that last minute stuff might work. but doesn't necessarily.) |
| 12:03 | erikos | caroline: quite good |
| 12:03 | sdziallas | erikos: oh yeah :) |
| 12:03 | SeanDaly | caroline: hoping you can help with the Blueberry launch |
| 12:03 | sdziallas | erikos: (on the "biiig deployment" note, heh) |
| 12:03 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: you mean re backup issue? |
| 12:04 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: nope, but the release date. |
| 12:04 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: we can push the release date if necessary, no sweat |
| 12:05 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: sure, but always pushing stuff doesn't help, either. |
| 12:05 | SeanDaly: I'll need to make an updated roadmap and wanted to do so pretty soon, too. | |
| 12:05 | SeanDaly | Well mid-late december much much better than january, |
| 12:05 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, It would be good if you put out a call on all lists for recognition of Soas deployments-would be nice to have link in launch to Map of Soas deployments worldwide |
| 12:05 | SeanDaly | since I'd like eBook push in "holiday season" |
| 12:06 | JT4Sugar: not sure it's a long list, but we can ask IAEP | |
| 12:06 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: yes, but the folks might need some time to download and try it. and I'm not such a fan of switching always release dates. unless there are good reasons... |
| 12:07 | SeanDaly: we can very well announce it at FUDCon, too. that's about two days earlier, but might have a completely different message. | |
| 12:07 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: let me know what works for you... we could even do earlier |
| 12:07 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: fyi: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]a_Stick/Blueberry |
| 12:08 | SeanDaly: it's not about what works for me... I'd like to try to get something that works for both of us, where we could get a fitting date together with some conference or whatever. But I wouldn't want to have the confirmation on the date in late Nov. | |
| 12:08 | SeanDaly: for example, I doubt that we'd have a new static web page within two days. | |
| 12:09 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: re page: I think it's vital to indicate that it's beta for release soon |
| 12:09 | about date... if Netbook World people could confirm, that would be a great date | |
| 12:09 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: the Blueberry page? "this is a draft - work in progress"... it's where I'm writing the release notes and information up. |
| 12:09 | SeanDaly | by the way there's a fedoran on their committee |
| 12:10 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: I know... |
| 12:10 | let me see... | |
| 12:10 | notices he is in Fedora's meeting channel and pings. | |
| 12:11 | SeanDaly: (I was looking for him last Tuesday after our meeting but he wasn't around) | |
| 12:11 | SeanDaly | I'm not sure who at Netbook World is Bastien's contact |
| 12:11 | sdziallas | (he apparently doesn't reply) |
| 12:11 | SeanDaly | will ask Bastien about that |
| 12:12 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: Thomas Canniot, if it's the Fedora guy. |
| 12:12 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: yes, that's him |
| 12:12 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: his IRC nick is MrTom |
| 12:13 | SeanDaly: (as per http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot) | |
| 12:14 | SeanDaly | yes |
| 12:15 | I'd need to think about FUDcon association... at first view there are pluses and minuses | |
| 12:17 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: I was just pointing it out because it's about that time. It adresses a much more technical public, doesn't bear that much the possibility of OEM deals, but establishes a better connection with Fedora (from an outside POV). |
| 12:18 | SeanDaly: I felt like the World Netbook Forum might be a better possibility, but if they don't reply or don't show interest (by not replying), then I wouldn't count on it. | |
| 12:18 | SeanDaly: and I'm certainly not in favor of moving a release around because some non-responsive trade fair organizer. | |
| 12:19 | SeanDaly | i agree Netbook event ideal but if they don't respond we do need to shop around. |
| 12:19 | Strawberry release at LinuxTag showed we are international, and present | |
| 12:19 | sdziallas | nods... and still smiles about Strawberry :) |
| 12:20 | JT4sugar | To take advantage of Ebooks for the Holidays plus help a worthy cause by Helping Sugar Labs test its Blueberry on a Stick we need message out early December-Holidays is the Event |
| 12:20 | SeanDaly | let's try one more time for a response from Netbook event people, we'll cross the other bridge when we get to it |
| 12:20 | sdziallas | maybe we can target something around early december, and I base the roadmap on that planning? |
| 12:20 | SeanDaly | ChristianV just arrived afetr driving all day |
| 12:20 | OK anything else for now? | |
| 12:20 | sdziallas | "early december" no matter where it gets announced? |
| 12:21 | SeanDaly | sdziallas: Yes early december is good |
| 12:21 | sdziallas | SeanDaly: I've nothing else on the plate... okey dokey, that's noted ;) |
| 12:21 | SeanDaly | you know, there is an event at berlin Dec 3 or 4 |
| 12:21 | Open Tech Ed or something | |
| 12:21 | sdziallas | oh? no, didn't know that. |
| 12:21 | SeanDaly | looks |
| 12:23 | http://online-educa.com/ | |
| 12:23 | sdziallas | sad that he won't be able to be there |
| 12:24 | SeanDaly | although the event is interesting, we really shouldn't dateline from Berlin again |
| 12:24 | sdziallas | nods |
| 12:24 | (...and needs to run, too, soon) | |
| 12:25 | SeanDaly | Yes I do too shall we wrap it up? |
| 12:25 | JT4Sugar: counting on your help with OLPC draft if you can, once I put up first version thanks | |
| 12:26 | sdziallas | +1 to wrap it! |
| 12:26 | SeanDaly | ok going once... |
| 12:26 | JT4sugar | I can help with that when will you seek Chucks input |
| 12:26 | SeanDaly | going twice... |
| 12:27 | JT4Sugar: my idea is: we draft first, then send to Chuck | |
| 12:27 | ok starting countdown again going once... twice... :-) | |
| 12:27 | JT4sugar | Might tell him your writing draft what are key points he'd like to hit |
| 12:28 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: he just said "write a draft, send to Walter & I" |
| 12:28 | JT4sugar | Creates a collaborative atmosphere |
| 12:28 | Ok | |
| 12:28 | sdziallas | has to run... |
| 12:28 | will be back later. | |
| 12:28 | SeanDaly | but I prefer drafting with marketers from the community |
| 12:28 | sdziallas | nice meeting! |
| 12:28 | SeanDaly | waves bye to sdziallas |
| 12:29 | sdziallas | waves back :) |
| 12:29 | SeanDaly | JT4sugar: it's sensitive topic and I seek input from other members of the marketing team |
| 12:30 | JT4sugar | SeanDaly, I understand. |
| 12:30 | SeanDaly | I will try to get first rough draft out tonight |
| 12:31 | JT4sugar | Enjoy Italy a Little. Might help to write in a Pub! |
| 12:31 | SeanDaly | by the way - forgot to mention that i suggested to openSUSE that they mention Sugar in tomorrow's PR for v11.2, they graciously agreed to put in the text I suggested |
| 12:32 | Yes will try to enjoy evening after day of sunshine spent in front of screens :D | |
| 12:32 | #endmeeting |