| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:09 | CanoeBerry | Ciao, just invited ritaf to join us for a bit. |
| 10:10 | tomeu | is there a place to know about the pilots going on in germany? |
| 10:11 | transbot0 | gch_> Hi I\u0026#39;m from Peru I would like to participate:) |
| 10:11 | ritaf_ | hi |
| 10:11 | transbot0 | befana> the idea of this reunion is to revive the group deployment |
| 10:11 | befana> gch_: welcome | |
| 10:12 | gch_> thanks | |
| 10:12 | befana> we simultaneously on two channels, # sugar-reunion in Spanish and # sugar-meeting in English | |
| 10:12 | befana> everything you read in one language will be translated into a channel to another channel by transbot0 | |
| 10:14 | befana> the idea of using this tool is to involve more people than those implemented in Latin America | |
| 10:14 | tomeu | befana: should we set a topic? |
| 10:14 | transbot0 | befana> is a test of patience so I ask if the translation is not perfect |
| 10:15 | caroline | Its a very cool technology. |
| 10:15 | befana | tomeu: we have an agenda |
| 10:15 | #TOPIC Status update Sugar deployments | |
| 10:16 | transbot0 | gch_> primarily wanted to submit diculpen interrupcion investigate the sugar in a community that has formed in my university who investigates sugar in the XO and we would like to work with the learning platform:) |
| 10:17 | walterbender | there are probably many univrsities who want to do such investigations |
| 10:18 | how can we help them and leverage their numbers? | |
| 10:18 | transbot0 | befana> gch_: One of our goals is to strengthen the ties between sugarlabs and local groups that can help in local implementations |
| 10:20 | befana | walterbender: i ithink we need more marketing and difussion in local universities |
| 10:21 | walterbender | befana: more coordination as well... there are so many universities doing things with Sugar, but little communicatin among them |
| 10:22 | befana | walterbender: i agree, we need more coordination, and others communications channels |
| 10:22 | tomeu | hmm, maybe gregdek or mchua know someone non-technical at an uni that would like to take care of it? given that they are visiting lots of people at universities |
| 10:22 | befana | walterbender: i was thinking about using microblogs: twitter and identi.ca |
| 10:23 | tomeu | by taking care of it meant coordinating, making sugar known in more universities, etc |
| 10:23 | walterbender | befana: and maybe a facebook group? |
| 10:23 | tomeu: not to my knowledge. But I think we have the opposite problem too | |
| 10:23 | transbot0 | gch_> in our case I tell them that sugar spread explaining the importance of the platform:) |
| 10:23 | befana | walterbender: yes, facebook too, i don't like it but it's practical |
| 10:23 | walterbender | too many university projects we don't know about |
| 10:23 | mtd | thinks there are too many channels and not enough signal. Pick one or two, tell everyone about it. |
| 10:23 | transbot0 | gch_> We workshops so they can learn sugar platform |
| 10:24 | tomeu | walterbender: yeah, I think that person would also take care of making sure all sugar projects are known, and maybe having conferences, etc |
| 10:24 | walterbender | mtd: good point, but we also have to rech out to where they are |
| 10:24 | ideally we'd get every uni to contribute to the planet | |
| 10:25 | tomeu | yeah, not everybody will use the two channels we choose |
| 10:25 | walterbender | tomeu: I'll try again to write some grants for these conferences... it was the focus of almost every grant I wrote last year and all were rejected :( |
| 10:25 | tomeu | not sure we can do anything about that, each person has their style of communicating online |
| 10:25 | mtd | walterbender: cool, so planet.sugarlabs.org is the coordination / focal point of sugarlabs deployment communication? |
| 10:25 | tomeu: indeed - but at least if we point to an official one nobody can say "there is not enought coordination" :) | |
| 10:25 | walterbender | mtd: ideally yes... but we need to get the word out |
| 10:25 | tomeu | walterbender: maybe if we find 6 projects at universities, they would organize their own conference, then we can go there and lurk ;) |
| 10:25 | mtd | walterbender: sure |
| 10:26 | transbot0 | befana> Tomeu: ideally cover as much of the media and have a reference to the wiki |
| 10:26 | tomeu | walterbender: it's just that I see the academic world very different than the FLOSS one, may be better let them organize themselves as they better see |
| 10:27 | mtd | tomeu: hmm good point...so nominate someone and let them pick the communication channel(s)? |
| 10:27 | walterbender | tomeu: agreed, but they love their conferences and if we can extract from them a blog... |
| 10:27 | transbot0 | tomeu> gch_: there is a website where we can learn more about your project? |
| 10:28 | gch_> http://cixosfia.libreusmp.org | |
| 10:28 | tomeu | walterbender: sure |
| 10:28 | mtd: yeah, I love delegating :p | |
| 10:28 | mtd | tomeu: sounds like an #ACTION to me |
| 10:28 | meeting: help | |
| 10:29 | transbot0 | gch_> ahi put all the information and input, I had the opportunity to speak with Walter Bender and make an interview that helped us a lot:) |
| 10:30 | mtd | befana: perhaps you can make an #ACTION and then we can get back to the agenda? |
| 10:30 | walterbender | gch: and your univesity organizes an international conference every year!! |
| 10:30 | befana | #action create groups in facebook, identi.ca and twitter |
| 10:30 | walterbender | very important |
| 10:30 | transbot0 | gch_> if |
| 10:30 | tomeu | befana: what do you think about an #ACTION: propose from the people that we currently know that are doing sugar-related projects at universities to choose one coordinator that discovers, aggregates and promotes communication between academic projects and the broader sugar community? |
| 10:31 | walterbender | tomeu: +1 |
| 10:31 | befana | #ACTION: propose from the people that we currently know that are doing sugar-related projects at universities to choose one coordinator that discovers, aggregates and promotes communication between academic projects and the broader sugar community? |
| 10:31 | tomeu: thanks +1 | |
| 10:32 | transbot0 | gch_> events could be disseminated university is a good point of reunion and distribution |
| 10:32 | befana | #action include as many sugar relative blogs we can find to the planet |
| 10:33 | something else? | |
| 10:34 | transbot0 | befana> this was the last item on the agenda ... other channels of communication |
| 10:34 | mtd | befana: nope |
| 10:34 | transbot0 | tomeu> gch_: according |
| 10:35 | befana> Status update Sugar Deployments? | |
| 10:35 | mtd | can give a short status update on UK potential Sugar deployment after everyone else is done. |
| 10:37 | tomeu | nice |
| 10:37 | transbot0 | befana> I can talk about what we have advanced in colombia |
| 10:38 | befana> Today we are installing fedora sugar and 11 in the second of five public schools | |
| 10:38 | befana> have begun working on teacher training | |
| 10:40 | CanoeBerry | mtd: your turn if befana's done? |
| 10:41 | tomeu | befana: would be nice to see blog posts and articles on new outlets about these, maybe we can ask the marketing team for opinions about giving more publicity to your work? |
| 10:41 | befana | tomeu: we are going to begun a blog with teachers |
| 10:42 | and we are going to have a maganize article next month | |
| 10:42 | tomeu | awesome :) |
| 10:43 | kristianpaul | yes ! :-) |
| 10:43 | befana | but i could be fine more publicity, maybe when we finished installations |
| 10:44 | tomeu | befana: nice, sean might have ideas |
| 10:44 | befana | i'll write him |
| 10:45 | mtd | CanoeBerry: ok - I'll wait until befana says he's done :) |
| 10:45 | befana | i'm done :) |
| 10:46 | mtd | befana: ok :) |
| 10:46 | the UK pilot is scheduled to start the beginning of september | |
| 10:46 | with XOs | |
| 10:47 | the OS build will be chosen in the next week | |
| 10:47 | caroline | mtd how many students/XOs? |
| 10:47 | mtd | the candidates are: OLPC 802 and SoaS-strawberry-for-XO |
| 10:47 | transbot0 | gch_> xo how are going to deploy? |
| 10:47 | mtd | caroline: 30 students, 30 XOs + teacher/school XOs. We have 50 XO-1s. |
| 10:48 | gch_: what do you mean? | |
| 10:48 | one area of concernt that's developed is internet access | |
| 10:48 | caroline | mtd: grade/age level? School demographics? |
| 10:48 | befana | mtd: he ask about how many XO |
| 10:49 | mtd | gch_: 30 XO-1s to one class, we have 20 more for teachers, administrators, spares. |
| 10:49 | pilot wiki page is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC[…]Pilots/London2009 | |
| 10:49 | transbot0 | gch_> ok to understand the data of 30 students 30 Annexes that was my question |
| 10:49 | mtd | caroline: school is mixed - 30-40% of kids from very low income families |
| 10:49 | caroline: location is West London | |
| 10:50 | we are getting serious concerns about the level of internet access | |
| 10:50 | the concerns are quite vague and non-technical | |
| 10:50 | I suggested we might have the head teacher speak to other head teachers at deployments to gain comfort | |
| 10:51 | caroline | how big is the school total? how old is the class you are deployting to? |
| 10:51 | mtd | otherwise, we may have to 1) prevent kids from taking laptops home; or 2) diable internet accces; 3) limit web site acces in Browse; 4) log all web site accesses; or 5) something else |
| 10:51 | caroline: primary school, years 1-6, which is ages 6-11 | |
| 10:52 | caroline: target pilot is one whole class, year 5, which is 10 r olds | |
| 10:52 | (approximately) | |
| 10:52 | caroline: I don't know the total school size but I imagine it's a few hunfred kids | |
| 10:52 | hundred | |
| 10:53 | caroline | mtd, I will be intereested in your solution inregards to internet usage, we will have similar challenges |
| 10:53 | mtd | is especially looking to set up a conversation between the school's head teacher, the school's IT teacher, and other teachers / administrators who have done or are doing deployments |
| 10:53 | caroline | Does anyone have samples terms of use agreements that kids sign? |
| 10:53 | mtd | caroline: sure, we will share the results |
| 10:53 | CanoeBerry | mtd: yes, we're overdue for these calls, let me know :) |
| 10:54 | mtd | if anyone thinks they can broker a phone call between head teachers, or can speak to head teachers about deployment concerns, please let me know |
| 10:54 | transbot0 | gch_> I wonder how we can participate more actively supporting SUGAR? |
| 10:54 | mtd | CanoeBerry: sure :) |
| 10:54 | CanoeBerry | mtd: Caryl can join in dsd's absence, etc |
| 10:54 | If you like. | |
| 10:54 | daveb | mtd: do they already have computers wit internet access in the school? |
| 10:55 | mtd | is done - but please let me know if anyone has any contacts with head teachers |
| 10:55 | CanoeBerry: to talk to the head teacher? That'd be cool! | |
| 10:55 | CanoeBerry | Anytime. |
| 10:55 | mtd | daveb: yes, there is a computer lab |
| 10:55 | daveb: the computers are wired ethernet and inside a walled garden. | |
| 10:56 | daveb | i see. |
| 10:56 | mtd | daveb: www.lgfl.net (heh I can't access that site ::) |
| 10:56 | :)) | |
| 10:56 | daveb | well that's a touch wall then |
| 10:56 | caroline | will you have an XS? |
| 10:56 | daveb | so do they have wireless for the XOs? |
| 10:56 | mtd | caroline: no, no plans |
| 10:56 | daveb | yeah XS seems like a good plan. for a small number you can run it on any hardware |
| 10:56 | mtd | daveb: they are going to purchase an AP |
| 10:56 | transbot0 | tomeu> gch_: coming here to talk all together is a very good start;) now discusses the current state of the pilots and deployments, maybe we can add to the agenda an item on how the pilots can participate more actively in sugar labs? |
| 10:56 | mtd | daveb: hmm will consider it |
| 10:57 | transbot0 | tomeu> Befana: ^ |
| 10:57 | mtd | gch_: yes that'd be good |
| 10:57 | daveb | of course the AP could go through the schools wall alredy right? |
| 10:57 | thatseems simplest for them | |
| 10:57 | policy-wise | |
| 10:57 | mtd | tomeu: yes - I think we need to start with getting information flowing from deployments |
| 10:57 | daveb: yes but home use is the main concern | |
| 10:57 | CanoeBerry | mtd: when you're done, let me mention how so many volunteers are suddenly pulling together community deployment success stories in Washington, DC Sept 6-11 |
| 10:58 | mtd | CanoeBerry: yes - I've watched that process with interest and regret that I can't be there. |
| 10:58 | daveb | mtd: ok sorry, i did not realize that. |
| 10:58 | mtd | daveb: I didn't mention :) |
| 10:58 | CanoeBerry | Consider a bit of remote editing, in particular photographic / visual contributions! |
| 10:58 | daveb | i was going off carolines question about use agreement :) |
| 10:59 | mtd | is really done :). |
| 10:59 | daveb | mtd: so homes may not have internet at all |
| 10:59 | mtd | CanoeBerry: considering :) |
| 10:59 | transbot0 | befana> Llista CanoeBerry in the south called yama to include stories in Washington, DC |
| 10:59 | mtd | daveb: indeed. It's a PR concern (IMO) rather than an actual one. |
| 11:00 | CanoeBerry | Quick recap for those that missed it. Last week a large group of Support volunteers organized a Community Book Sprint in DC around creating a 30-page booklet to inspire teachers to do their own deployments: |
| 11:00 | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Class_Acts | |
| 11:00 | tomeu | oh, thought it hadn't happened yet |
| 11:01 | walterbender | what is the event in early Sept.? |
| 11:01 | CanoeBerry | If you can join in person Sept 6-11 please do! Or remotely if you can pick a story/chapter you believe will spark teachers/small school to get off their butts :) |
| 11:01 | The Table of Contents is a bit of mess for now, don't take it too seriously: | |
| 11:01 | befana | CanoeBerry: yama did a call for stories at olpc-sur list last week |
| 11:01 | CanoeBerry | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clas[…]Table_of_contents |
| 11:02 | walterbender: It's about getting entrepreneurial teachers to start their own deployments. | |
| 11:03 | Now that OLPC's Contributors Program has loosened up its criteria, and Small Sales are (more) flexible than in the past. | |
| 11:03 | tomeu | great news! |
| 11:03 | CanoeBerry | So a ton of volunteers rallied all on their own to make teachers aware of this. |
| 11:03 | With lots of photos ideally. | |
| 11:03 | befana | really? amazing!! |
| 11:03 | walterbender | CanoeBerry: is this great news documented anywhere? |
| 11:04 | CanoeBerry | Mike Lee is driving a lot of the editorial voice around "National Geographic" photogenic understanding of how easy (and hard!) a deployment can be ;) |
| 11:04 | But again, our TOC isn't settled, we do want the final product to be Short (30 p) | |
| 11:05 | walterbender: I've updated the CP FAQ here, around the gradual opening of our criteria over the past months: | |
| 11:05 | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors#FAQ | |
| 11:06 | walterbender | CanoeBerry: it would be nice if OLPC would issue a press release... most people don't know to keep check ing the FAQ to see if OLPC had changed their mind... |
| 11:06 | CanoeBerry | Anyway Gallaudet University deserved all the credit here -- for pulling out all the stops hosting this event! |
| 11:07 | Arrive a day early (3PM Sunday Sept 6) if you can help Luke Faraone, Rita Freudenberg etc begin to "freeze" the TOC. | |
| 11:08 | befana | walterbender: +1 |
| 11:08 | tomeu | hi hpachas, icarito |
| 11:08 | should we move to more updates from other deployments? | |
| 11:09 | already looking forward to the next meeting, so much to cover... | |
| 11:09 | CanoeBerry | aside for walterbender: I'm personally very much hoping CP criteria and small sales criteria will open up even much wider over the coming year. At that point yes, there may finally be a press release, but honestly OLPC doesn't yet have its own Sean Daly Superstar :) |
| 11:10 | tomeu | heh |
| 11:10 | befana | tomeu: i think it's good to know about Peru deployments, icarito hpachas hi :) |
| 11:10 | walterbender | CanoeBerry: on the contrary, OLPC has the pro bono services of Racepoint... |
| 11:10 | CanoeBerry: I'll talk to Chuck | |
| 11:11 | tomeu | then racepoint needs a sean daly ;) |
| 11:11 | CanoeBerry | walterbender: Let me know how it goes :) |
| 11:11 | hpachas | tomeu: hi |
| 11:11 | mtd | CanoeBerry: Racepoint has some UK members that we've met at the last meeting, so if you need us to poke anybody "in person" let us know :) |
| 11:12 | walterbender | hola hernan |
| 11:13 | icarito1 | hello my mouse just froze had to switch irc client |
| 11:13 | tomeu | updates from peru and paraguay? who else do we have? caroline about boston? |
| 11:14 | icarito1 | volunteers at escuelab are preparing a newsletter |
| 11:14 | to be distributed to rural schools by USB | |
| 11:14 | caroline | School starts at the GPA Sept 8th |
| 11:14 | icarito1 | hope to release first version this month |
| 11:14 | caroline | everyone is on vacation right now as far as I can tell. |
| 11:14 | icarito1 | comes with a podcast in .ogg format |
| 11:15 | will share this month | |
| 11:15 | caroline | Our goal for the year is to deploy Sugar Sticks to all students, but we expect to phase that in. We will meet with the prinicpal and faculty when they get back to work out the details. |
| 11:15 | befana | hpachas: we have transbot working in #sugar-reunion if you want to write in spanish |
| 11:16 | tomeu | icarito1: any links you can share related to that? |
| 11:16 | befana | icarito1: the newspaper sounds great :) nice work |
| 11:16 | tomeu | caroline: how many people are working on the boston deployments? |
| 11:16 | caroline | We have funds to hire interns using US Work study |
| 11:17 | icarito1 | tomeu, not really but i can post the proposed TOC today |
| 11:17 | caroline | we will be hiring them in Sept and also accepting volunteers |
| 11:17 | tomeu | icarito1: maybe a page in our wiki? |
| 11:17 | caroline | My goal is to make it easy to volunteer and have that be a pathway to getting involved in Sugar. |
| 11:17 | icarito1 | tomeu: ok will do that |
| 11:18 | caroline | This summer Anurag from BU volunteered and he will intern this Fall. He will also be working on starting a deployment in Delhi India next summer. |
| 11:18 | tomeu | great, hope to read about it in the sugar newsletter |
| 11:18 | hpachas | walterbender: hola |
| 11:18 | transbot0 | befana> icarito1 is possible to include in the newsletter a survey to know what you think or need service? |
| 11:18 | caroline | So my hope is that GPA can serve as a training ground for people to go out to other places next year. |
| 11:18 | tomeu | caroline: that's a great idea |
| 11:19 | caroline | Anurag's family is from India so he has local contacts. |
| 11:19 | icarito1 | befana: it is possible to include whatever we see fit |
| 11:19 | walterbender | befana: I had written a survey for the teachers in Uruguay (in Spanish)) but it was never used :( |
| 11:19 | befana | icarito1: we can use it as fed |
| 11:19 | as feedback instrument | |
| 11:20 | tomeu | boston is full of talented people from all around the world, same as london (hint for mtd) |
| 11:20 | befana | walterbender: we can use it in Peru with the news letter |
| 11:20 | mtd | tomeu: :) |
| 11:20 | caroline | I hope to also have at least one intern focused on curiculum and would love to collaborate. |
| 11:21 | tomeu | nice, the deployment team is going to really start rocking with such contributions |
| 11:21 | caroline | about half of GPA students speak spanish so we are also interested in collaboration with spanish speaking deployments. |
| 11:21 | befana | caroline: great, :) |
| 11:22 | transbot0 | hpachas> During the holidays some U.S. universities, students / graduates / professionals arrived in Peru to help, so call now to walterbender \u0026quot;urops\u0026quot; |
| 11:23 | hpachas> _urops_ | |
| 11:23 | befana | urops ? |
| 11:23 | walterbender | undergrauate research opportunity program |
| 11:24 | transbot0 | icarito1> I interviewed some of them before you go ... |
| 11:24 | hpachas> funded by the students reach their universities | |
| 11:24 | hpachas> and / or other agencies. | |
| 11:25 | icarito1> hpachas: and how was that? any product / project / report that we can read? | |
| 11:26 | icarito1 | by the way anyone at OLPC or SugarLabs got feedback from these UROPs? |
| 11:26 | transbot0 | befana> or blogs of them know their views on their experiences in field |
| 11:26 | icarito1 | befana: there was some blogging |
| 11:26 | tomeu | icarito1: haven't heard any |
| 11:27 | transbot0 | gch_> another group coming to peru? |
| 11:27 | befana | tomeu: i remember one about god it's everywhere... |
| 11:27 | tomeu | heh |
| 11:28 | icarito1 | i dont think there's another plan right now for doing the same |
| 11:28 | frankly when I met them they seemd frustrated | |
| 11:28 | befana | icarito1: why? |
| 11:28 | transbot0 | gch_> ? |
| 11:29 | tomeu | looks like we could have tons of news from deployments, wonder how we'll aggregate them effectively |
| 11:29 | though we still need to get them ;) | |
| 11:29 | mtd | tomeu: planet / sugar digest |
| 11:30 | tomeu | mtd: yeah, that sounds good |
| 11:30 | befana | action? |
| 11:30 | tomeu | mtd: btw, you don't have your blog syndicated, right? |
| 11:30 | icarito1 | i ve been thinking maybe ill start translating walters sugar digest |
| 11:30 | tomeu | icarito1: +1 |
| 11:31 | walterbender | icarito1: there was an earlier attempt, but it stopped for some reason... |
| 11:31 | icarito1 | ok ill start with the latest one |
| 11:31 | tomeu | also someone from peru would like to take the task of sending walterbender news form time to time? |
| 11:31 | befana | icarito1: other colombian new volunteer can help you, if you want |
| 11:31 | tomeu | efforts like this need someone who takes the lead |
| 11:31 | icarito1 | ok im putting it on my agenda |
| 11:31 | tomeu | and makes sure the other people keep going on the right track |
| 11:32 | mtd | tomeu: my blog is just a web page, not even a "real" blog - but it's not high volume enough :) |
| 11:32 | befana | icarito1: perfect |
| 11:32 | tomeu | mtd: ok, olpc-uk will be blogging? |
| 11:32 | mtd | tomeu: agree someone need to lead |
| 11:32 | tomeu: ah sorry I thought you meant my personal blog | |
| 11:32 | tomeu: olpc-uk will be blogging | |
| 11:33 | tomeu: I have just emailed out to re-start that process | |
| 11:33 | tomeu | mtd: actually meant that, I remember having read something about olpc some years ago |
| 11:33 | awesome | |
| 11:33 | mtd: so you are leading that ;) | |
| 11:33 | icarito1: are you leading the newsletter translation effort? | |
| 11:33 | mtd | tomeu: right now it's just http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uk |
| 11:33 | tomeu: heh | |
| 11:33 | icarito1 | tomeu: yes I am |
| 11:34 | tomeu | I think we have lots of people who want to do the actual translation work, but we need someone to give initial consistency to the team |
| 11:34 | awesome | |
| 11:34 | caroline | It would be nice to have a central place with common info like location, # of computers/sticks, SoaS or XO or other hardware, age of students, curricular focus. |
| 11:34 | tomeu | caroline: true, can we do an action item? with a responsible if possible |
| 11:35 | s/do/have | |
| 11:35 | that will be a lot of work, but very useful | |
| 11:35 | befana | caroline: we can created Deployment/On_Course with that information |
| 11:35 | caroline | I cna't take any more on personally, but the problem with blogs is it can be hard to find the background info if you come in from the middle. |
| 11:35 | tomeu | possible starting point: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places |
| 11:36 | caroline: sure, an action item about finding someone to take care of it is already very good | |
| 11:36 | caroline | maybe a support gang person will volunteer |
| 11:36 | tomeu | someone with accountant mentality would be good ;) |
| 11:36 | sounds good | |
| 11:37 | how are we in the agenda? | |
| 11:37 | befana | #ACTION to create http://sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places |
| 11:37 | tomeu | misses mchua |
| 11:37 | befana | tomeu: we are on first item :( |
| 11:37 | second one... local labs | |
| 11:38 | tomeu | yeah, we have tons of ground to cover, I would say it's better to do so superficially today, extend on future meetings |
| 11:38 | befana | i think we need to do that |
| 11:38 | we need an overview today | |
| 11:39 | icarito1 | are we moving to item 2? |
| 11:40 | local labs? | |
| 11:40 | befana | there are more sugar deployments updates here? last call |
| 11:40 | local labs then | |
| 11:41 | icarito1 | ok local labs peru, maybe Im out of the loop there |
| 11:42 | befana | i invite sugar labs chile but they don't have time for this meeting, maybe next one |
| 11:42 | tomeu | nice they are busy ;) |
| 11:43 | icarito1 | is there a loop to be out of reg local labs peru or should we at escuelab start an innitiative? |
| 11:44 | walterbender | icarito1: maybe we should discuss this with Hernan... |
| 11:44 | what the best strategy is to break the log-jam | |
| 11:45 | icarito1 | walterbender: yes i am happy to collaborate. dont know where they are right now reg that |
| 11:45 | tomeu | log-jam? |
| 11:46 | icarito1 | ok ill try to find out whrer hernan is reg this and how we can colaborate |
| 11:46 | walterbender | icarito1: I will be in Peru in Oct to try to mae sure the local lab is flourishing |
| 11:46 | icarito1 | okay we wil be happy to have you here |
| 11:46 | transbot0 | befana> disappears just when we needed it .... : ( |
| 11:47 | tomeu | ok, we can leave sl.pe for the next meeting? |
| 11:47 | icarito1 | ok |
| 11:47 | tomeu | if there are updates by then |
| 11:47 | befana | well, we, sugar labs colombia .... we are working a lot.... |
| 11:48 | another local lab update? | |
| 11:49 | tomeu | btw, manusheel gupta seems to be doing a lot of activity development |
| 11:49 | may that be a good candidate for a local lab? | |
| 11:50 | one of the people working with him has been doing very good work, wonder if this could help other similar efforts | |
| 11:50 | just mentioning, I don't have any other info about that | |
| 11:51 | befana | moving to item 3? |
| 11:52 | OLPC deployments, there are a lot of XO pilots but i'm afraid they don't know about us | |
| 11:53 | tomeu | wonder if we should first consolidate the bigger deployments we already have relationships with, then get the rest more involved in a second phase? |
| 11:53 | just a suggestion, not sure about that | |
| 11:54 | icarito1 | feedback is not proportional with deployment size ;-) |
| 11:54 | tomeu | well, sure |
| 11:55 | just suspecting that we may need to grow some more momentum before we can reach to every single pilot | |
| 11:55 | JT4sugar | tomeu, The best way to get information from deployments may be to set up weekly SKYPE meetings with Teachers and Students in classrooms with internet access |
| 11:56 | tomeu | JT4sugar: yeah, it's not the first time I heard about the importance of phone communications |
| 11:56 | that sounds great | |
| 11:56 | icarito1 | JT4sugar: except most deployments wont have good conections or connections at all and language is a problem |
| 11:56 | tomeu | though we need someone to put on writing the important stuff at some point |
| 11:56 | icarito1: well, no need for everybody to talk to everybody, we have already a good part of our community that speaks spanish | |
| 11:57 | JT4sugar | tomeu, Skype meetings can be recorded for later translation if important feedback comes out |
| 11:57 | tomeu | but I understand how using phone would allow us to reach people we wouldn't be able to reach otherwise |
| 11:57 | caroline | It would be great if people could check out http://getsatisfaction.com/sugarlabs and give us feedback if you think its useful or not. |
| 11:58 | befana | tomeu: i agree, but there is one who can do it? |
| 11:58 | tomeu | befana: maybe not now |
| 11:58 | walterbender | ls |
| 11:58 | befana | caroline: i have a question about getsatisfaction... we have spanish version for the site? |
| 11:59 | tomeu | befana: but the idea of having the head master of GPA talking on the phone with the head master of the london pilot sounds great to me |
| 11:59 | caroline | they are working on internationalization but don't have it yet. :( |
| 11:59 | JT4sugar | Skype allows you to be in the classroom with the whole class if you want |
| 11:59 | befana | caroline: could we help? |
| 12:00 | caroline | befana yes, they want our help. |
| 12:00 | tomeu | JT4sugar: skype didn't worked too well for me with the olpc meetings |
| 12:00 | caroline | shall I send an email introducting you to the company? |
| 12:00 | befana | caroline: maybe you could write a mail to localization list, or IAEP or olpc-sur with instructions |
| 12:01 | icarito1 | JT4sugar: same not so good experience with skype |
| 12:01 | caroline | hmm, I don't know that i know the intructions. |
| 12:01 | instructions | |
| 12:01 | tomeu | befana: I guess they don't have any support for localization in their web app :( |
| 12:02 | btw, perhaps even more important that SLs <-> deployment communication is communication between deployments | |
| 12:03 | icarito1 | tomeu: only itd be nice if those conversations happened in the open |
| 12:03 | so other deployments can follow / participate | |
| 12:04 | befana | caroline: send me a mail, and we try to help |
| 12:04 | tomeu | icarito1: sure, but we first need them to understand how important is for them to work with other deployments |
| 12:04 | befana | icarito1: +1 |
| 12:04 | tomeu | without that... |
| 12:05 | icarito1 | tomeu: thats why it would be nice that best practices be shared, so others can learn / its a sort of catch 22 |
| 12:06 | tomeu | icarito1: sure, it's a virtuous cycle ;) |
| 12:06 | icarito1 | the more people share, the more learn the benefits of sharing |
| 12:07 | tomeu | will need to leave soon |
| 12:07 | any concrete actions we can take regarding OLPC pilots? | |
| 12:07 | befana | icarito1: :) that fine, but how could do it if we don't have comunication with them |
| 12:08 | i'll invite some uruguay ones to the next meeting | |
| 12:08 | tomeu | befana: I think that if we proof that the deployments with whom we have already relationships are having a benefit from that, others will follow |
| 12:08 | icarito1 | befana: we have same roadblocks it seems, my take was the newsletter |
| 12:08 | befana | ok |
| 12:09 | tomeu | yeah, translating the newsletter seems to me like a good first step |
| 12:09 | befana | tomeu: i agree |
| 12:09 | well, last item, Roadmap? | |
| 12:09 | mtd | JT4sugar: I'm up for a skype weekly meeting |
| 12:10 | befana | have to go soon |
| 12:10 | tomeu | I have already cried in IAEP a good bit about deployments not caring about us, now we need to proof it can have a benefit for them |
| 12:11 | JT4sugar | mtd, The idea would be to hook up with a deployment classroom and talk directly to students and teachers using Sugar in the classroom |
| 12:11 | mtd | JT4sugar: hmm interesting. I'll definitely suggest that to the pilot project managers. |
| 12:12 | tomeu | befana: how are we in the agenda? |
| 12:12 | befana | tomeu: Most urgent needs from deployments - Roadmap |
| 12:12 | and Communications: alternatives to lists and IRC channels | |
| 12:12 | tomeu | that's a big one for me |
| 12:13 | how do I know as a develeoper if a feature or bug is important for deployments, and also for which deployment and why | |
| 12:13 | befana | i'm worry about time |
| 12:13 | tomeu | we can leave items for the next meeting |
| 12:14 | if deployers just added a comment in the ticket explaining why is important for them, I think it would be already great | |
| 12:14 | icarito1 | +1 i dont think we'll solve that today |
| 12:14 | unless we hve some action suggstion | |
| 12:14 | befana | tomeu: we can suggest it in the local lists |
| 12:15 | tomeu | we can also follow up on the mailing list after posting the minutes |
| 12:15 | no stress | |
| 12:15 | befana | ok |
| 12:15 | icarito1 | perhaps it is a good idea to take the subject to the mailing list |
| 12:16 | tomeu | I need to go now, was great to be in this meeting, and look forward to the next ones |
| 12:16 | walterbender | tomeu: maybe a summary email of all the features being considered? |
| 12:16 | tomeu | sounds good as well, or wiki page |
| 12:16 | cheers! | |
| 12:16 | befana | #action added a comment in the ticket explaining why is important and in which deployment |
| 12:17 | i have to go too... :( | |
| 12:17 | icarito1 | is going also thanks great meeting good to be back |
| 12:18 | walterbender | befana: thanks for taking this on... |
| 12:18 | icarito1 | +1 thanks bfana |
| 12:19 | mtd | befana: thanks! |
| 12:19 | befana | :) we need to keep it |
| 12:19 | mtd | befana: please #ENDMEETING |
| 12:19 | befana | #ENDMEETING |