| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:06 | silbe | roll call: lucian walterbender felipe BryanWB iwikiwi_ aa bemasc assimd |
| 10:06 | lucian | is here |
| 10:06 | BryanWB | is here but subzero is not |
| 10:06 | bemasc | . |
| 10:07 | silbe | we'll do subzero in between when he turns up, as usual |
| 10:07 | #topic Webified lucian walterbender | |
| 10:08 | lucian | right. i've finally done some actual work on web collaboration |
| 10:08 | (i've been busy with RL for the past few days) | |
| 10:08 | right now, i have a proof of concept for bemasc's webcollab concept http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/WebCollab | |
| 10:09 | silbe | nice! |
| 10:09 | lucian | so you would have the actual web app served by this server, at http://localhost:port/ |
| 10:10 | and the server accepts HEAD, GET, POST or DELETE at http://localhost:port/messages/ | |
| 10:10 | this way, there's no issues with XSS security | |
| 10:11 | silbe | lucian: why isn't XSS an issue? |
| 10:12 | lucian | because the XHR from the web app target the same domain |
| 10:12 | if the web app had been started from file://, you couldn't do XMLHttpRequest to http://localhost | |
| 10:12 | or any other host for that matter | |
| 10:13 | silbe | ah, i see |
| 10:13 | lucian | as i implement more, i will be making some changes to bemasc's model |
| 10:13 | bemasc | lucian: feel free to document them on that page. |
| 10:13 | lucian | mostly having to do with path names, i don't like encoding the unique id, index and key in the path name |
| 10:14 | we could create folders with POST just fine if we needed, to target specific users | |
| 10:14 | and any other arguments i'd rather send through url arguments ( localhost:port/messages/msg?id=123 | |
| 10:15 | i have also found out that it's not quite straightforward to send POST requests with XHR | |
| 10:15 | more details here http://www.openjs.com/articles[…]tp_using_post.php | |
| 10:16 | iwikiwi | is here |
| 10:16 | lucian | so the collab stuff i'm building should probably be wrapped in an (optional) convenience js library |
| 10:17 | and about Browse SSBs, they're pretty much done | |
| 10:17 | i should arrange some demos and get some patches merged in | |
| 10:18 | silbe | lucian: that would be great |
| 10:18 | subzero | hi guys |
| 10:18 | sorry, I'm late | |
| 10:18 | BryanWB: hi man | |
| 10:18 | BryanWB | subzero: hola amigo |
| 10:18 | silbe | lucian: ok, do you have anything else to discuss? otherwise i'd switch to subzero |
| 10:19 | lucian | not really, switch away |
| 10:19 | silbe | #topic Karma subzero BryanWB |
| 10:19 | subzero | HI SILBE |
| 10:19 | sorry, caps were on | |
| 10:19 | http://karmaproject.wordpress.[…]-graphics-engine/ | |
| 10:20 | silbe | (please remember to put #link before links so they'll show up in the minutes) |
| 10:20 | subzero | I'm working on the karma plugin |
| 10:20 | ok, thanks | |
| 10:20 | #link http://karmaproject.wordpress.[…]-graphics-engine/ | |
| 10:21 | well, I'm working on implementing option 2 (1 canvases with a Objects tree) | |
| 10:22 | using that UML design | |
| 10:23 | one of the problem I found is a "security error" when trying to use getImageData on ff | |
| 10:23 | silbe | ok. would be interesting to see how much performance that scaling stuff buys you, as it's obviously a trade-off vs. image quality |
| 10:24 | subzero | silbe: yes, Bemasc, BryanWB and me were talking about it yesterday :) |
| 10:25 | other freak bug is that, it's necessary to update the page (press "f5") in ordet to get the content :S | |
| 10:25 | silbe | have you found the reason for the security error yet? |
| 10:26 | ouch | |
| 10:26 | subzero | silbe: not yet, it's linked with the place you put the code |
| 10:28 | silbe | ok. do you know how to continue or are you stuck? |
| 10:28 | subzero | silbe: about that I have asked yesterday on #firefox, but not luck |
| 10:28 | silbe: I know how to continue | |
| 10:29 | silbe: in the worst case I won't use that function :( | |
| 10:29 | silbe | ok. is it needed for anything besides scaling? |
| 10:30 | subzero | no, it's for layer support. my ideas was to get the bg, just some pixels and not the hole image |
| 10:30 | BryanWB | sorry having internet problems |
| 10:31 | subzero | draw the bg (a small portion) and then the new image |
| 10:31 | it would be useful whit animated stuff | |
| 10:32 | BryanWB: np, i know it's annoying | |
| 10:32 | silbe | ok |
| 10:33 | any famous last words? :) | |
| 10:34 | #topic Print support iwikiwi aa | |
| 10:34 | iwikiwi | Hi |
| 10:35 | The recent update is that everything integrates well and works | |
| 10:35 | There is still the problem of authentication | |
| 10:35 | silbe | great news! |
| 10:35 | iwikiwi | that is, how to get the information: what is the default XO user's moodle ID |
| 10:35 | I've mailed regarding this to Martin. | |
| 10:36 | silbe | iwikiwi: isn't that just the public key? |
| 10:36 | iwikiwi | silbe: hmm, well, I am not sure. |
| 10:36 | aa had suggested we talk to Martin about this | |
| 10:37 | and I see that I sent it on a different email ID to sugar-devel, so its not on the lists | |
| 10:37 | silbe | ok, makes sense. |
| 10:37 | iwikiwi | in the meantime, |
| 10:37 | I am writing a interface for Print which lets you enter the moodle username | |
| 10:38 | The moodle side, code is already written by me which processes it. | |
| 10:39 | There's still one key feature that Print lacks atm though, its page selection. Somehow I wasnt able to figure it out. | |
| 10:39 | silbe | what's the problem? |
| 10:40 | iwikiwi | the code compiles/interprets* well. But I cant seem to get any response. Even if i select the pages, and send them back, the whole doc is printed |
| 10:41 | silbe: also i need a repo somewhere to put my Moodle Print Module code online | |
| 10:42 | silbe | iwikiwi: you can put it up on git.sugarlabs.org |
| 10:42 | everybody can create an account | |
| 10:42 | iwikiwi | yeah, I do have one. |
| 10:42 | right, I will put it up. | |
| 10:43 | there's also another change that a dev from moodle Tim, and Martin had suggested. That is restate my course module into a Block. But I thought I would do it only after I have everything set up with this. | |
| 10:44 | The only featuric advantage a block would have is: | |
| 10:44 | silbe | have you tried asking on the GTK mailing list about your page selection problem? |
| 10:45 | iwikiwi | Blocks wont require a teacher adding print support for his course everytime. |
| 10:45 | silbe: yeah, I mailed them. But no response | |
| 10:45 | :( | |
| 10:45 | I will persist them again | |
| 10:46 | silbe | ok :( |
| 10:46 | iwikiwi | but right now im focusing on authentication stuff, a subject of two nights. after wards its again back to that, and focus on indentation and stuff. |
| 10:46 | and then focus* | |
| 10:46 | silbe | ok, sounds like you're on track |
| 10:47 | iwikiwi: anything else you'd like to discuss? | |
| 10:48 | iwikiwi | silbe: naah, thats about it. Those are the current issues |
| 10:48 | silbe | good... |
| 10:48 | #topic Groupthink bemasc assimd | |
| 10:48 | waiting for some more amazing things :) | |
| 10:49 | iwikiwi | heh |
| 10:49 | bemasc | I've added live shared editing to Pippy. |
| 10:49 | I'm not quite sure how to cut a release. Anyone here know an easy way to strip out all of the .git*/ stuff from a git repository? | |
| 10:49 | setup.py doesn't seem to be smart enough to ignore it. | |
| 10:51 | Also, I worked with cjb and m_stone to get a first draft of a live shared arithmetic quiz activity working with Groupthink, but that was using the shared dictionary, not shared text, so it's arguably outside the scope of my GSoC project. | |
| 10:52 | That's it. | |
| 10:52 | On Sunday we had a symbolic demonstration of Pippy, shared between two computers, collaboratively editing its own source code. | |
| 10:54 | umm... next? | |
| 10:54 | silbe | bemasc: IIRC git has a command for creating a tarball, but bundlebuilder should work fine with git. if it doesn't, it needs fixing. |
| 10:54 | bemasc | silbe: maybe that's a post-0.82 feature? |
| 10:54 | I've been doing everything on 0.82. | |
| 10:55 | silbe | bemasc: ah, you're working on 0.82? |
| 10:55 | lucian | bemasc: possibly. i'm using the bundlebuilder list_files in my ssb bundle creator, and it has .git in its ignore list |
| 10:55 | silbe | then it's entirely possible that it's broken |
| 10:55 | bemasc | lucian: ok. I guess it's time for me to get a 0.84 instance running. |
| 10:55 | silbe | i've never really used 0.82 as it was too broken for me :-/ |
| 10:56 | bemasc | silbe: well, the datastore was rewritten for 0.84, so it wouldn't be very useful for you! |
| 10:56 | silbe | bemasc: even before my GSoC project |
| 10:57 | but we're getting OT :) | |
| 10:57 | bemasc | ok. I'm done. |
| 10:57 | silbe | #topic Version support for datastore silbe homunq |
| 10:58 | i have to admit i don't have any real news | |
| 10:59 | lecture time has just finished, so we've taken a "light" week. worked a bit on the patch i've submitted for review and am now waiting for another round of review. | |
| 11:00 | i'll see how much Tomeu wants changed this time :) | |
| 11:00 | ok, anything else to discuss? | |
| 11:01 | 3 | |
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| 11:01 | 1 | |
| 11:01 | #endmeeting |