| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:06 | SeanDaly | First off I'm wondering FGrose or jt4sugar if you have questions about SugarCamp? |
| 11:06 | FGrose | Saw some reports, waiting for more. |
| 11:06 | jt4sugar | Will there be a write-up on the multiple topics discussed and direction |
| 11:07 | SeanDaly | yes Walter will be collating the focus group reports |
| 11:07 | briefly, we enumerated all the top-of-mind topics | |
| 11:07 | then organized those into 4 themes | |
| 11:07 | marketing and school environment topics were sugggested by mostly the same people so the group was merged | |
| 11:08 | then we discussed what were the three most important themes to work on | |
| 11:08 | walterbender | is writing up some preliminary notes to send out shortly |
| 11:08 | SeanDaly | hi walterbender |
| 11:08 | jt4sugar | Was there a push towards project visualization and mapping our strategy |
| 11:08 | SeanDaly | after lunch the 9 groups worked on those themes |
| 11:09 | and the reports will be collated by walter (I hope to send mine tonight) | |
| 11:09 | jt4sugar: there was a conscious effort not to "decide" things | |
| 11:09 | since of course not everyone was there | |
| 11:10 | rather, to talk about important themes we should focus on next | |
| 11:10 | I did film some ambient video I hope to send you | |
| 11:11 | including slow-motion of the flipchart themes :-) | |
| 11:11 | jt4sugar: concerning marketing strategy, | |
| 11:11 | walterbender | jt4sugar: we need to think about the process of project visualization in the midst of a workshop... |
| 11:11 | jt4sugar | I agree |
| 11:12 | SeanDaly | the morning session note-taker (the Australian fellow was his name John? I'm sorry I forgot) |
| 11:12 | walterbender | jt4sugar: we needed more people with such skills in the room if we were to do it in real time |
| 11:12 | SeanDaly | took some great notes |
| 11:12 | full of marketing ideas | |
| 11:12 | walterbender | SeanDaly: I sent them to you this morning... |
| 11:12 | FGrose | Was there discussion of Sugar Labs events for the next few months? with perhaps some calendar dates? |
| 11:12 | SeanDaly | walterbender: yes I saw that many thanks |
| 11:12 | FGrose | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]ibutions/OpenSUSE |
| 11:13 | SeanDaly | FGrose: yes |
| 11:13 | jt4sugar | walterbender: was hoping to try by video stream but only got small bits&pieces |
| 11:13 | SeanDaly | I wish to attend LinuxTag in Berlin end of June |
| 11:13 | jt4sugar: wifi was very iffy | |
| 11:13 | at LinuxTag, talk about beta-2 of SoaS | |
| 11:13 | walterbender | plus, we were in breakout groups... we'd have needed nine cameras |
| 11:14 | SeanDaly | and... the Sugar Labs first birthday :-) |
| 11:14 | jt4sugar | When you collate reports and I look at video available I"ll put some Mind Maps together |
| 11:15 | SeanDaly | I would say a key theme that I completely agree with was raised in a discussion with Caroline |
| 11:15 | and that is, to target younger kids (say K-8) instead of K-12 | |
| 11:16 | why, because market is open | |
| 11:16 | we are far better than "competition" | |
| 11:16 | and the industry has noticed a growth potential, witness the Dell netbook launch today | |
| 11:17 | another theme I rreally like is we should claim to be the best | |
| 11:17 | and free too, but I think it serves us to position ourselves as the very best platform for young kids learning | |
| 11:17 | FGrose | And most universally available |
| 11:18 | SeanDaly | FGrose: yes exactly |
| 11:18 | The new netbooks are full of colors, from Dell, from Acer, Asus, everybody | |
| 11:19 | these manufacturers know the developed world will spend money if it's on a school-by-school, or district-by-district basis | |
| 11:19 | FGrose | good covers for our content and platform |
| 11:20 | SeanDaly | Dell offers 5 colors for their netbooks and suggested to their pilot schools (I have found one of them) to sort colors by grade |
| 11:20 | Sugar will look fantastic on these netbooks and provide an excellent learning experience I am sure | |
| 11:21 | The headmistress at the Dell pilot school mentioned how useful the machines will be for students who are absent (sick) | |
| 11:21 | And, they have identified a problem: teachers in class can't run around and see what the kids are doing | |
| 11:22 | But when you have Sugar you don't need to run around :D | |
| 11:22 | jt4sugar | How do we get Sugar as part of their Ubuntu offering |
| 11:22 | FGrose | We need to get mesh working on them as well |
| 11:22 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: +1 |
| 11:22 | I have just ordered one of the new Dells this morning the day it went on sale | |
| 11:23 | I took the 802.11n and touchscreen options | |
| 11:23 | By the way Ubuntu is standard | |
| 11:23 | Windows costs extra | |
| 11:23 | I understand Sugar on Ubuntu is not working so great at the moment | |
| 11:24 | Perhaps the Dell launch could convince Canonical to support Sugar better? | |
| 11:24 | jt4sugar | May have to turn Dell into a Major Sponsor of Sugar Labs-If they agree they'll help get it working |
| 11:24 | walterbender | SeanDaly: it is mostly a matter of packaging |
| 11:25 | SeanDaly | It's my belief Dell could be cajoled into supporting Sugar |
| 11:25 | I want to contact their people in the education team | |
| 11:26 | walterbender | SeanDaly: Caroline and I are alredy in touch |
| 11:26 | SeanDaly | walterbender: Great! I want to boot SoaS on it |
| 11:27 | I also have a Dell Mini 10 in the pipeline | |
| 11:27 | walterbender: I'm not a packaging guru... is it lots of work? on our side, or Ubuntu side? | |
| 11:29 | walterbender | fair amount of work... |
| 11:29 | should be able to leverage the debian efforts though | |
| 11:29 | SeanDaly | walterbender: I was afraid so :-/ |
| 11:29 | walterbender | but lots broke with Jaunty |
| 11:29 | SeanDaly | walterbender: yes you had mentioned that |
| 11:29 | but Jaunty is v9 right? | |
| 11:30 | walterbender | yes. 9.4 |
| 11:30 | jt4sugar | walterbender: what route did you take into Dell-education or through a personal contact |
| 11:30 | SeanDaly | Ubuntu Edition version 8.11 |
| 11:30 | I just pasted that from the Dell receipt | |
| 11:30 | FGrose | 9.04=2009.April |
| 11:30 | walterbender | caroline and I have been talking to the Dell education lead |
| 11:30 | SeanDaly | FGrose: thanks :-) |
| 11:31 | jt4sugar | They showing some interest? |
| 11:31 | SeanDaly | walterbender: If II can support you with photos or video of the machine running Sugar? |
| 11:31 | walterbender | SeanDaly: that'd be great... post it all to dailymotion |
| 11:32 | SeanDaly | About DailyMotion, do we have an account? Should I open one? |
| 11:32 | an org account different from personal account | |
| 11:32 | walterbender | SeanDaly: you can use the one I just created, sugarlabs. |
| 11:32 | SeanDaly | walterbender: cool! |
| 11:33 | I hope someone can point me to the screen recorder activity, is it working? | |
| 11:33 | walterbender | SeanDaly: I used xvidcap |
| 11:34 | SeanDaly | walterbender: not too difficult to use? |
| 11:35 | I had previously seen this page about xvidcap: #LINK http://linuxondesktop.blogspot[…]ovie-of-your.html | |
| 11:36 | while we're thinking about that I wanted some input about beauty shots | |
| 11:36 | walterbender | SeanDaly: there is also http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/scr[…]t/Screencast-1.xo |
| 11:36 | SeanDaly | walterbender: Ah yes that's the Activity I heard about |
| 11:36 | I'll try that asap | |
| 11:36 | I know a lot about transcoding, metadata etc. | |
| 11:37 | but not about screen recording (yet ;-) | |
| 11:37 | So about beauty shots: the Sugarlabs branded sticks for sure | |
| 11:37 | But also Sugar running on netbooks | |
| 11:38 | I like the idea of 6 netbooks showing the Home View | |
| 11:38 | other ideas for beauty shots? | |
| 11:38 | by the way the photographer wants to photoshop the screenshots in, otherwise too complicated to shoot | |
| 11:39 | seems OLPC did it like that too | |
| 11:39 | FGrose | 6 netbooks in neighborhood view |
| 11:39 | around activities | |
| 11:39 | SeanDaly | FGrose: great idea, they will see each other |
| 11:39 | jt4sugar | Shots of ebook reader with netbook running Soas |
| 11:40 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: I had an idea for an ebook shot |
| 11:41 | there is a project working with coomic books for ebooks | |
| 11:41 | in a small photo, will look more inviting for kids than just text | |
| 11:42 | Carol had mentioned that possibility too on the IAEP list a week ago | |
| 11:42 | things kids want to read | |
| 11:43 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: A shot with a popular nursery rhyme showing on screen would be nice |
| 11:43 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: yes a good idea |
| 11:43 | One of my favorites was Banbury Cross :-) | |
| 11:44 | FGrose | Co-edited in Write (different colors) or annotations from students |
| 11:45 | SeanDaly | I also had a wild idea: having Turtle Art write the sugar logo |
| 11:46 | FGrose | SeanDaly: Always try to show some collaboration, if possible. TA can I believe |
| 11:47 | SeanDaly | FGrose: yes I agree |
| 11:47 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: A Turtle Art-Tutorious tutorial on how you do it would be very cool |
| 11:48 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: I haven't done it yet |
| 11:48 | walterbender promised to look into taking the SVG vector lofo file and possibly converting it to segment instructions | |
| 11:48 | s/lofo/logo | |
| 11:50 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: I know-just think about using Tutorious as you do |
| 11:50 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: thanks for the tip |
| 11:52 | Should we show XOs in the beauty shots? | |
| 11:52 | FGrose | Yes |
| 11:52 | SeanDaly | I think yes, since the XO remains our main platform |
| 11:52 | and is well-known | |
| 11:52 | and very photogenic | |
| 11:53 | could be cool to show collaboration between an XO and a netbook | |
| 11:53 | FGrose | Netbooks become proper siblings or visa versa |
| 11:53 | SeanDaly | FGrose: +1 |
| 11:54 | jt4sugar | The more collaboration we can show is a big plus |
| 11:54 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: it's a key differentiator of our platform |
| 11:55 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: +1 |
| 11:55 | SeanDaly | hey I just found another Dell pilot school |
| 11:55 | will mail to marketing list | |
| 11:56 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: should be a key selling point to manufacturers |
| 11:56 | SeanDaly | they are using software called ePals Classroom Match for collaboration |
| 11:56 | #LINK http://www.epals.com/groups/ab[…]ssroom-match.aspx | |
| 11:56 | walterbender | I know the ePals team... |
| 11:58 | SeanDaly | walterbender: ask them about the Ann Richards School for Young Women Leaders (Dell pilot USA) |
| 11:58 | what's interesting is, the UK pilot was done at a girls' school too | |
| 11:58 | walterbender | the Anne Richards? |
| 11:58 | SeanDaly | #LINK http://www.sacredh.lbhf.sch.uk/index.htm |
| 11:59 | #LINK http://www.prdomain.com/compan[…]/200952071605.htm | |
| 11:59 | interesting that ePals markets connectivity between continents prominently | |
| 12:00 | Many teachers like to think about classrooms far apart working together | |
| 12:00 | jt4sugar | Ann Richards was Governor of Texas I believe |
| 12:01 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: I believe the Dell charitable foundation for education is based in Texas |
| 12:01 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: makes sense |
| 12:01 | SeanDaly | I need to run soon, shall we discuss anything else? |
| 12:02 | jt4sugar | I have phone call with Deb Socia-pilot school Thursday 9:30am send me any ideas you would like me to discuss |
| 12:03 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: great! are you bringing any machines, or sticks? what's your approach? |
| 12:03 | i mean, post-phone call :-) | |
| 12:04 | jt4sugar | I will leave that up to Caroline who will follow up after my call-I'm in Michigan so by phone for now |
| 12:05 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: ok cool |
| 12:05 | OK I'm going to close the meeting in a minute | |
| 12:05 | walterbender | jt4sugar: Deb and I are overdue for a get-together... remind her when you speak with her :) |
| 12:06 | SeanDaly | #endmeeting |