Time |
Nick |
Message |
11:02 |
SeanDaly |
OK everyone sorry for the very late reminder although i did manage to benefit from F. Grose's excellent instructions on how to do that |
11:02 |
caroline |
yes it was a great reminder! |
11:03 |
jt4sugar |
Congrats Walter and Caroline on FOSS VT Success |
11:03 |
caroline |
I love the google calendar attachment that does time zones |
11:03 |
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congrats to us all on that! |
11:03 |
SeanDaly |
I'm still under the weather and many loose ends but I agree with Caroline that we should discuss how to PR new SoaS beta |
11:03 |
walterbender |
sdziallas is the one who deserves the kudos |
11:03 |
SeanDaly |
Yes congrats!! sorry I missed it!! |
11:03 |
caroline |
yes amazing job |
11:03 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: I just send an email to Mossberg giving him a heads up |
11:03 |
caroline |
Sean there will be many more |
11:03 |
sdziallas |
erikos and tomeu did a great job on fixing all the stuff, too :) |
11:03 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender: OK great |
11:04 |
caroline |
So how to we get the world to come try it? |
11:05 |
SeanDaly |
I think a press release is in order but I'd like to plan it & not rush it (if such a thing is possible :D ) |
11:05 |
tomeu |
is listening |
11:05 |
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SeanDaly: which would be the goals of a press release? |
11:06 |
SeanDaly |
Hi tomeu the idea is actually building a house |
11:06 |
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Adding a nice big brick every 4-6 weeks |
11:06 |
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building awareness |
11:06 |
tomeu |
sounds fun |
11:06 |
SeanDaly |
So, PR on March 16th for v0.84 |
11:06 |
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PR in mid-April for first beta |
11:06 |
tomeu |
so the next press release is about "we are here and keep doing good stuff"? |
11:06 |
SeanDaly |
PR in mid-May for Paris event |
11:07 |
caroline |
My goal is people creating the sticks and trying it. |
11:07 |
SeanDaly |
PR in JJune for LinuxTag |
11:07 |
caroline |
I'd love to focus on more kid centered events but I like the time line |
11:07 |
walterbender |
caroline: great news re gould... |
11:07 |
SeanDaly |
For this press release I'd like to amplify what we said at the end of the last press release: testers |
11:07 |
caroline |
yup :) |
11:08 |
sdziallas |
I was just typing to suggest that. I totally agree. :) |
11:08 |
SeanDaly |
A concern I have is feedback... I'm a dummy and still don't know how to file a bug |
11:08 |
caroline |
Do we want to hang this release against an event? |
11:08 |
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this press release? |
11:09 |
SeanDaly |
Not necessarily... we originally planned to link to FOSSVT but took I think the right decision to hold off a little |
11:09 |
sdziallas |
points to: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]/Getting_Involved |
11:09 |
caroline |
I like the idea of talking about YMCA Healthy Kids day because its kid focused and YMCA is great name recognition. |
11:09 |
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its also local so we coul potentially get picked up by the Boston Globe. |
11:09 |
sdziallas |
we don't necessarily need bugs. I appreciate tickets, but if people put their results in the wiki, I'm fine with that, too (for now). ;) |
11:10 |
SeanDaly |
An ideal event is a big one but a small one can work |
11:10 |
caroline |
Is writing a press release about this Saturdays Healthy Kids Day feasible? Is it a good idea? |
11:10 |
SeanDaly |
What's potentially tricky about the Y is "look, we tested with a ragtag pile of old busted-up puters" |
11:11 |
caroline |
Sean, you say that like its not a good thing. |
11:11 |
SeanDaly |
:D to be clear: |
11:12 |
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I think it's great we can boot Sugar on miscellaneous mismatched hardware |
11:12 |
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But if I was at the Y, I wouldn't appreciate that characterization at all |
11:12 |
caroline |
how about this message. Sugar Labs released SoaS-Beta. We celebrated by using it at the local YMCA Healthy Kids Day. |
11:12 |
sdziallas |
well, do we need to put a focus on the hardware in the press release? |
11:12 |
SeanDaly |
Coat-tailing on Healthy Kids Day can work but we need the Y to agree to that in my opinion |
11:13 |
sdziallas |
caroline: that's what I meant :) in that direction. |
11:13 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: yes, much better I think a way to do it is: |
11:13 |
caroline |
I agree, lets not go into too much detail in the press release about he hardware, lets focus on the kids and the release. |
11:14 |
jt4sugar |
If Saturday goes well then a Press Release-Would help Y if people knew Computers were usable again with Great Education software |
11:14 |
caroline |
We can talk abou thow the Y does child care, after school and vacation camps and maybe our vision of connecting home, school and afterschool programs like the Y. |
11:14 |
SeanDaly |
"We are releasing the beta and with the cooperation of our local YMCA on healthy Kids Day, let it loose on some kids!" |
11:14 |
caroline |
I want the focus to be on kids and our end vision for education, then the geeks can come explore our site for geekier info. |
11:14 |
SeanDaly |
If we talk about the Y we need their cooperation/approval |
11:15 |
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I think it's doable if low-key |
11:15 |
caroline |
I spoke briefly to the excutive director but you are right we need to do that. |
11:15 |
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They are enthusiastic |
11:15 |
SeanDaly |
Or, put another way: as a journalist... |
11:15 |
caroline |
what woudl the time line be? |
11:15 |
SeanDaly |
SoaS at one YMCA= not news |
11:15 |
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SoaS for Healthy Kids Day at 200 YMCA= news |
11:15 |
caroline |
Sean, so true, but we aren't there yet. |
11:16 |
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so SoaS-Beta =? News |
11:16 |
sdziallas |
loves news :) |
11:16 |
SeanDaly |
Quite, so rather than market Healthy Kids Day we can market SoaS and mention the friendly participation of the Y for Healthy Kids Day with a link |
11:16 |
caroline |
yes |
11:16 |
SeanDaly |
Yes! SoaS beta= news |
11:17 |
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hopefully, anyway |
11:17 |
caroline |
ok and celbrating with kids at the Y shows our values and vision. |
11:17 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: yes, and idealy some photos |
11:17 |
caroline |
and gives us an event. Should we talk about FOSSVT too? to show our values of workign with educatiors? |
11:18 |
SeanDaly |
yes we should say "distributed to educators at the FOSSVT conference" |
11:18 |
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with a link |
11:18 |
caroline |
I put a call out for photographers and videographers no takers yet. |
11:18 |
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Sounds perfect to me. |
11:18 |
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When should we plan on putting it out? |
11:18 |
mchua |
waves shyly, trying to keep up with reading logs even if I'm quiet |
11:18 |
xobot |
mchua: by the way, iwikiwi told me to tell you 'check this proposal when she comes online : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/USpeak and tell mavu_ what she thinks' 14 days, 3 hours, 13 minutes and 9 seconds ago (on Tue Mar 31 14:05:12 2009) |
11:19 |
SeanDaly |
reminder, I am sitting on photo image release text will look at it asap |
11:19 |
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waves to mchua |
11:19 |
sdziallas |
mchua: hey :) |
11:19 |
SeanDaly |
There remains an image problem at OLPC which impacts us |
11:19 |
mchua |
SeanDaly: the olpc |
11:19 |
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SeanDaly: the olpc == sl thing? |
11:19 |
caroline |
is there anythign we can do about that in this press release? |
11:20 |
SeanDaly |
By publishing good news every month or so leading up to SoaS v1.0 we get away from negative image impact |
11:20 |
caroline |
what date should we aim for getting this next release out? |
11:20 |
sdziallas |
caroline: you mean another soas release? |
11:20 |
SeanDaly |
I'd like to say early next week after we have some Y photos available.... |
11:20 |
caroline |
what date should we aim for getting this next press release out? |
11:21 |
sdziallas |
heh. ;) |
11:21 |
SeanDaly |
however I should mention I will be on family vacation in the UK next week with limited access to th eNet |
11:21 |
caroline |
Do we want to go for sooner and not use Y pictures, use Mike Lee's pictures? |
11:22 |
SeanDaly |
We could go eReleases/PR Newswire but to get earlybird discount need to be 3 business days before publication morning |
11:22 |
sdziallas |
we could turn it to 'SoaS has been successfully premiered at FOSSVT...' |
11:22 |
SeanDaly |
I think there are some great photos in Mike's sets and he has promised to do some more if he can round up some more kids |
11:23 |
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sdziallas: yes, if we qualify "success" |
11:23 |
caroline |
Sean, what date do yout hink will work for your schedule? |
11:23 |
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lets pick a date then see what news we have that fits it :) |
11:24 |
SeanDaly |
I like Tuesday or Wednesday because 1) we can get press release done 2) we can choose best Mike Lee/Y photos |
11:24 |
jt4sugar |
When Release goes out we should have Tester survey in place to capture feedback |
11:24 |
caroline |
21st or 22nd? |
11:24 |
SeanDaly |
Keep in mind the press release photo has to be submitted 3 days before |
11:25 |
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yes 21nd or 23rd |
11:25 |
sdziallas |
bernie, walterbender: how about susing urvey.sl.o? |
11:25 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: totally agree |
11:25 |
caroline |
ok so we can talk about the Y but we'll use Mike Lee's photos. |
11:25 |
SeanDaly |
In fact I think obtaining feedback should be an important goal of this press release |
11:25 |
caroline |
if we can we'll get video for a youtuber on the Y day but that will be for later. |
11:26 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: yes, and if we have Y photos we can blog etc. |
11:26 |
sdziallas |
let people mail their experience to IAEP, that's the least we can suggest... |
11:26 |
caroline |
agreed. Its not a very pretty room. I don't think the photos will be that great. |
11:26 |
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or feedback sugarlabs.org and we can redirect it to volunteers to compile it. |
11:26 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: need to join mailing list first though? |
11:27 |
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I like feedback sugarlabs.org much better |
11:27 |
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Now, if only there were some way to identify beta build and hardware |
11:27 |
caroline |
we could ever redirect it straight to iaep for now if we don't get too much volume |
11:27 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: if we could propagate and get the messages from there, yeah. |
11:27 |
bernie |
sdziallas: I've not paid attention to it since when I installed it. are people using it? does it work well? |
11:28 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: there *is* way. it's documented. |
11:28 |
jt4sugar |
If teachers are going to take time- a Get to know Sugar/Test these features checklist/survey and report is important |
11:28 |
sdziallas |
bernie: last time I check I got some error or so. maybe we could use it for feedback on soas...? |
11:28 |
SeanDaly |
Today I'm a bit frustrated because I don't know how to submit any feedback |
11:29 |
tomeu |
SeanDaly: you are already submitting feedback ;) |
11:29 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: here it's stated how to find the version number, if not in the file name: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]#Help_the_project |
11:29 |
tomeu |
SeanDaly: if I ask you to file a ticket and point you to http://dev.sugarlabs.org , is that enough? |
11:30 |
bernie |
sdziallas: I also recommend http://selectricity.org/ . we used it to run the first slobs election. |
11:30 |
tomeu |
maybe we should build better tools, but for now what we can do is providing better isntructions |
11:30 |
SeanDaly |
tomeu: nope. last time I went there, first thing I saw was "please read the doc" I followed the link to bkank page :-( |
11:30 |
bernie |
sdziallas: and it's run by mako, a friend who's also a member of the fsf |
11:30 |
tomeu |
goes look |
11:31 |
sdziallas |
bernie: that looks interesting :) |
11:31 |
tomeu |
SeanDaly: it got killed during the camelcase process |
11:31 |
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will fix now |
11:31 |
SeanDaly |
very possible, but I still have no idea how to submit a bug |
11:32 |
jt4sugar |
tomeu: I don't think so-If we want Great feedback from Teachers must have straightforward very simple way-There time is precious |
11:32 |
sdziallas |
bernie: maybe we can combine this with feedback sl.o or so... |
11:32 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar is right - what is necessary is an extremely simple webform |
11:32 |
tomeu |
jt4sugar, SeanDaly: but someone needs to do it |
11:32 |
SeanDaly |
ideally, a webform which generates a mail to feedback sugarlabs.org |
11:32 |
sdziallas |
okay, I guess we need to differenciate the following: |
11:33 |
SeanDaly |
i was looking at Survey Monkey |
11:33 |
sdziallas |
* report bugs in form of 'this and that doesn't work, here's the traceback' |
11:33 |
tomeu |
SeanDaly, jt4sugar: php may be the most common skill found in sw development, maybe you could get someone involved in such a simple task? |
11:33 |
sdziallas |
* feedback from teachers who're probably more writing up an e-mail with their thoughts or so |
11:33 |
bernie |
SeanDaly: who's gonna read feedback@? |
11:33 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: do teachers know what a traceback is? |
11:33 |
tomeu |
if core developers keep taking all and every task, we are never going to scale |
11:34 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: that's why I see two groups here. I'm not saying they know that. but developers who know that are also filing bugs. |
11:34 |
SeanDaly |
bernie: we need to filter/sort/connect those mails to official bug tracking system |
11:34 |
mchua |
SeanDaly: Survey Monkey has a limited # of users - you can only capture so many responses (on the order of 200 I think) |
11:34 |
caroline |
I think we send feedback to the list for a while then we ask for volunteers |
11:34 |
bernie |
SeanDaly: no, but we need it for debugging. we should have a wiki page explaining how to copy-paste it in a bug report |
11:34 |
SeanDaly |
mchua: for free version, paid version much higher |
11:34 |
bernie |
SeanDaly: fedora has something like this. almost easy enough for the casual user |
11:35 |
caroline |
bernie, I have not found putting in bug reports for fedora at all easy. |
11:35 |
mchua |
bernie: SeanDaly: I'm happy to read feedback; I used to do ethnographic data coding so can take qualitative answers too. I can handwrite out conclusions and scan or pass them to caroline or others in boston for typing to everyone else. |
11:35 |
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remains useless on computers for a while |
11:35 |
bernie |
SeanDaly: a human being in the middle seems to be only way to reduce bogus reports. |
11:36 |
SeanDaly |
Also, (speculation) it is quite possible teacher feedback will reveal most difficult blockers outside Sugar e.g. loading stick or setting BIOS |
11:36 |
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bernie: I quite agree, |
11:36 |
bernie |
caroline: it might be boring (lots of steps), but it's quite a guided procedure. developers point users at further instructions as needed (how to get a traceback, how to install debuginfo...) |
11:36 |
SeanDaly |
but there are shortcuts: first is to lower feedback response expectations: |
11:36 |
caroline |
We need to not overset expecations about what they get for free. |
11:37 |
SeanDaly |
"thanks for your feedback which is important, but we cannot answer every message individually" |
11:37 |
bernie |
SeanDaly: hehe ;-) |
11:37 |
SeanDaly |
second shortcut is to limit problems in message title by type |
11:37 |
caroline |
emphases that ists a volunteer project and use our autoresponder as a chance to ask for volunteers |
11:37 |
mchua |
caroline: if I came to the y one day with a notebook to interview users for feedback, and left the notebook with you folks to type, would that help? |
11:37 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: yes |
11:38 |
caroline |
mel, on Saturday it will be crowded. I think we can observe the feedback. |
11:38 |
SeanDaly |
third shortcut is to attempt to classify mails by keyword filters |
11:38 |
caroline |
If we engage with them over April vacation week then volunteers can collect feedback by observation and interview. |
11:38 |
jt4sugar |
If we have checklist of what developers are looking for it will shape testing process. Do steps 1.2.3.4 did it work? |
11:39 |
SeanDaly |
Put another way: if we get 100 e-mails in a week we will learn quickly what blockers are (and if feedback reporting is usable) |
11:39 |
caroline |
but really we want more then technical feedback. |
11:39 |
mchua |
caroline: I was talking about april vacation week and getting nontechnical feedback, actually |
11:39 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: in fact global feedback will be very valuable |
11:40 |
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By the way we can take easy feedback from teachers, but always indicate that official bugtracker is available for geeks |
11:41 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: that's what I meant with the two groups. A geek will know how to file a bug. |
11:41 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: how about existing smoke test? |
11:41 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: and for the teachers, we need a way to get their feedback |
11:41 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: I don't see any way except webform/e-mail and sorting it out in the back room |
11:42 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: yup. that's what we'll end up with. |
11:42 |
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well, it could be e-mailed to IAEP, but that's probably more complicated and would flood the mailing list. |
11:42 |
caroline |
I think a simple feedback sugarlabs.org but put some thought into what the auto responder says and ask for what we want in that. |
11:42 |
SeanDaly |
But, as I say, use shortcuts and it remains manageable |
11:42 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: I think a clearly laid out step by step process that 50yr old teacher could follow is whats needed-smoke test to technical for most newbies |
11:43 |
SeanDaly |
It is vitally important in my view that feedback be ridiculously simple for a teacher to send |
11:43 |
caroline |
I don't know that we want teachers doing smoke tests. Really if it boots we get pretty similar results from hardware to hardware right now right? |
11:43 |
SeanDaly |
survey.sugarlabs.org down |
11:43 |
caroline |
I want teachers exploring and seeing the possiblities not being robots smoke testing. |
11:44 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: good point |
11:44 |
sdziallas |
caroline: +1 |
11:44 |
caroline |
so if we have a script for them it should be one designed to assist them in exploration. |
11:44 |
SeanDaly |
But, remember many will be disoriented |
11:44 |
caroline |
which we probably do want, as your first 2 minutes on Sugar are frustratating. |
11:44 |
jt4sugar |
caroline: Yes-I think most testers would appreciate a process that let them get to know sugar and be able to report the experience |
11:44 |
SeanDaly |
Yes a little list of things to try would be great |
11:44 |
caroline |
We probably want a YouTube for it too. |
11:45 |
tomeu |
in 0.82, we used to ship the help activity |
11:45 |
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youtube++ |
11:45 |
SeanDaly |
I wonder if I have a gadget that can convert VGA out to PAL video? |
11:46 |
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Or some other screen codec |
11:46 |
tomeu |
there's an activity from cjb that generates screencasts, btw |
11:46 |
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s/from/by |
11:46 |
SeanDaly |
here's a concern: i think we can agree that more than a few days are necessary to set up teacher feedback |
11:47 |
caroline |
Sean, no I dont agree. |
11:47 |
SeanDaly |
But, I think links & e-mail for feedback should be part of press release? |
11:47 |
caroline |
I think setting up feedback sg.org gives us the ability to change what we do for feedback in a very agile manner. |
11:47 |
sdziallas |
well, setting up feedback sugarlabs.org shouldn't take too long, I suppose. |
11:48 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: I agree that's a very "lithe" way to start |
11:48 |
caroline |
I don;t think we shoudl make that a blocker for the PR April 21-23. |
11:48 |
sdziallas |
caroline: I agree. |
11:48 |
SeanDaly |
now comes the hard part: which elves sit in the back room and pore over those mails |
11:49 |
caroline |
tomeu, if you could write up how to do the screenshot activity we can ask for a volunteer on the list. |
11:49 |
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Sean, first week we dump it all to IAEP. If we get overwhelmed we come up with some elves. |
11:49 |
SeanDaly |
Alternatively, do we forward mails to an alias? |
11:49 |
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caroline: sounds good |
11:49 |
tomeu |
caroline: the activity is done, AFAIK |
11:50 |
caroline |
tomue, askig for a 3 line email telling me the name of it and where to get it and where instructions on how to use it are. |
11:50 |
tomeu |
cjb might comment later today |
11:50 |
sdziallas |
I don't mind having a look at the e-mails from time to time, but I'll have less time to dedicate from the next week on as school starts again. |
11:50 |
tomeu |
oh, ok |
11:50 |
SeanDaly |
For the press release text: I'd like to write it together with y'all |
11:50 |
caroline |
and we need to have it done far enough in advance to clear with the y. |
11:51 |
SeanDaly |
Which can show you how the windmills of my mind work in spin doctor mode :D |
11:51 |
sdziallas |
;) |
11:51 |
SeanDaly |
So... is 24 hours too tight to get press release text done? or 48 better? |
11:52 |
caroline |
Sean what do we need to do? |
11:52 |
SeanDaly |
working back from Wednesday 22nd... means press release needs to be with eReleases by Thursday evening this week |
11:53 |
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including photo |
11:53 |
sdziallas |
Cambridge, MA. Sugar Labs announces... "hey, I did my part" ;) |
11:53 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas :D :D |
11:53 |
tomeu |
caroline: http://lists.laptop.org/piperm[…]tober/000540.html |
11:53 |
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caroline: I'm not sure if instructions exist :( |
11:54 |
SeanDaly |
Caroline: by the way I would like to quote you as well as Walter in this PR since focus is SoaS and you presented at FOSSVT |
11:54 |
jt4sugar |
mchua: You ready to become a Youtube star-Bug reporting, setting up Sugar Virtual Box, Burning Soas, Screenshot activity? |
11:54 |
caroline |
ok, can you help me draft an email to the list looking for a vollenter |
11:54 |
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Sean definitely! Just let me knwo what I say :) |
11:55 |
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Do you want us to find any teachers from the conference to quote? |
11:56 |
SeanDaly |
The usual way that works is like this: "Caroline the Magnificent, Sugar on aStick project manager, coommented 'we invite teachers to download and test Sugar today, put it in front of kids and tell us about their experience at feedback sugarlabs.org'" |
11:56 |
caroline |
sounds good |
11:56 |
mchua |
jt4sugar: if it doesn't involve me typing... though there are folks here who are way better actors. |
11:57 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: if you know teachers who are excited about Sugar and won't conttradict themselves when contacted by journos :-) |
11:57 |
caroline |
can I get Solution Grove in there? |
11:57 |
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Definitley there were 2 who woudl be good bets. |
11:57 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: sure, "C.M. of Solution Grove, SoaS project manager, ..." |
11:58 |
walterbender |
caroline: playing with a few choice activities... |
11:58 |
caroline |
hopefully SG will be providing stick backup and collaboration services within a month or so. Not that we put that in this release but I should work on thename recognition. |
11:58 |
jt4sugar |
mchua: If you can get a little help from OLPC-boston I think you talking through steps would be great-It would help me at least! |
11:59 |
caroline |
maybe Mike Lee will do our 2 minute start exploring with SoaS video for us. |
11:59 |
SeanDaly |
What's the best way to work on the press release text together? |
11:59 |
walterbender |
caroline: I met with Evangeline yesterday |
11:59 |
SeanDaly |
Write through jabber? |
11:59 |
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the wiki? |
11:59 |
caroline |
walterbender, Excellent! what is she up to? |
11:59 |
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Sean, Google Docs? |
11:59 |
SeanDaly |
the marketing list? |
12:00 |
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yes G Docs might be aggod plan |
12:00 |
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aggod -> a good |
12:00 |
sdziallas |
+1 |
12:00 |
walterbender |
caroline: they have been using Sugar in schools... a teacher-oriented experience |
12:00 |
SeanDaly |
naive question can we put up a doc several of us can edit which is not Internet-facing? |
12:01 |
caroline |
walterbender - Wow! How? on what hardwere, where? |
12:01 |
SeanDaly |
A press release ain't news if it is readable somewhere especially in draft form :-( |
12:01 |
caroline |
Sean yes, you can restrict who can see it. |
12:01 |
walterbender |
OLPC XOs in a Boston charter school... |
12:01 |
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small scale, but nice work, nonetheless |
12:01 |
jt4sugar |
walterbender: Were you able to get Evangeline a few more XO's |
12:01 |
caroline |
wow, very cool. |
12:02 |
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how many XOs does she have? |
12:02 |
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is she using turtle portfolio? |
12:02 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: I guess Google Docs allows you to invite people |
12:03 |
SeanDaly |
ok i'm clicking on GDocs from SL acct |
12:03 |
sdziallas |
really likes our SL accounts... |
12:03 |
walterbender |
jt4sugar: I gave her 2 more machines... |
12:04 |
jt4sugar |
walterbender: Awesome |
12:04 |
walterbender |
caroline: back to the point I was trying to make... |
12:04 |
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we should have teachers explore no more than 4-5 activities to start... |
12:04 |
caroline |
at most! |
12:05 |
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I think our intro video should show the neighborhood, 2 activies and the journal. |
12:05 |
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maybe turtle art and write showing collaboration. |
12:05 |
walterbender |
and perhaps browse, TA, memorize, write and the journal |
12:06 |
caroline |
yeah we need browse you are correct. |
12:06 |
walterbender |
things that go beyond games and worksheets |
12:06 |
caroline |
we want just enough to take the edge off the frustration. |
12:06 |
sdziallas |
infoslicer will be too much for the beginning, right? |
12:06 |
walterbender |
sdziallas: I think it would be part of the second wave |
12:06 |
caroline |
we can do more vidoes on different activities |
12:06 |
sdziallas |
(I just love that concept. It's really impressive. And it could be combined with Browse.) |
12:07 |
caroline |
we need a gettng started one that is super simple. |
12:07 |
sdziallas |
yeah, right! |
12:07 |
SeanDaly |
OK i have just attempted to invite marketing list to edit press release at http://docs.google.com/a/sugar[…]invite=1784178336 |
12:07 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: pretty terse draft :) |
12:07 |
SeanDaly |
others should be able to edit too if sl.o addresses I think |
12:07 |
jt4sugar |
espeak and typing turtle would be beneficial to show literacy aspects |
12:07 |
sdziallas |
goes clicking |
12:07 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender: yes, it's ultra ultra concise for the moment :D |
12:09 |
mchua |
rsi ration done for the day. *waves* |
12:09 |
SeanDaly |
OK everyone I need to leave soon are we OK for 1) press release by this Thursday afternoon 2) feedback sugarlabs.org forwarded to IAEP for at least the first week 3) release on Wednesday, April 22nd? |
12:10 |
sdziallas |
nods |
12:10 |
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(...and wonders about the technical details for the release for April 22nd) |
12:10 |
caroline |
sdz press release |
12:11 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: yes *press* release |
12:11 |
sdziallas |
caroline: yeah, right. but we won't stop development now, will we? |
12:12 |
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caroline: so we need a policy of how to deal with changes, what to use as a base environment, on so on and forth. |
12:12 |
caroline |
no, but no need to try to sync it up, except to be extra sure its a stable beta on the days after the pres release |
12:12 |
SeanDaly |
Oh one final thing I wanted to call this "beta-1", implying there will be a "beta-2" and reinforcing our PR that we need feedback |
12:12 |
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Anyone see a problem with that? |
12:12 |
caroline |
Sean +1 |
12:12 |
sdziallas |
fine with me. |
12:12 |
caroline |
Sdz, maybe we shold schedule a SoaS technical meeting |
12:12 |
sdziallas |
caroline: yup, I agree. |
12:12 |
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I'd like to get erikos here, too. |
12:13 |
SeanDaly |
ok i'm ready to end marketing meeting glad you can't hear me sneezing |
12:13 |
sdziallas |
has got to run for ten minutes, dinner. |
12:13 |
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heh :) |
12:13 |
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get well soon! |
12:13 |
caroline |
great meeting thanks! |
12:13 |
SeanDaly |
#endmeeting |